PDA

View Full Version : War-popes from hell



IvarrWolfsong
01-16-2007, 02:22
Although the benefits and boons of using Shaba's diplomacy far outweigh the weirdness, I was wondering if anyone else noticed that:

-The pope tends to be a mad conqueror who will quickly blitz all over Italy.
-The death of the pope or your ruler doesn't reconcile you, so you can stay excommunicated forever (On Portugal, I was excom'd on turn 8 and reconciled on turn 97 when I finally started masscring Popes until I got a home town boy).
-With the pope on the warpath, you can get excommunicated for no reason that I could see. I had allied with Spain, kicked the Moors out of Iberia and had 8 dots on the Pope-o-matic Pope Love Meter... next turn I am told I am excommunicated. I thought that maybe Spain was being naughty somewhere but considering that they were sealed up inside my boundaries, I doubt it.
-Lastly, with everyone being good allies, you end up with crazy situations where everyone is allied to everyone else and by declaring war on one faction creates a world war as all the allies pile on.

Booga
01-16-2007, 02:24
I'm not familiar with this diplomacy of Shaba's, but it sounds interesting. Playing on VH the diplomacy kind of gets subsumed under the AI hate after a while. The Pope is already beast enough though, why would anyone possibly want to make him worse? O_o