Removing special characters and associated use?

[Cos3]

Is there any way to completely remove all but diplomat and merchant campaign map characters? I understand it's possible to remove them, but is it also possible to remove thier associated use? Priests/imams are used for conversion, so is it possible to remove this aspect of the campaign map?

I find all the micromanagement after 100 or so turns to detract from my enjoyment of the game. Constantly, every single turn having to build new assasins to try to remove priests and imams from my byzantine lands, sending priests to remove heretics, dealing with spies, et cetera. Remove one and another shows up to replace it. Yaaawn. I hate the guy who had the ideas which added this crap to the game.

I've got the rest of the game just the way I want it, but this aspect ruins my enjoyment.

[Foz]

You want all removed but diplomat and merchant, eh? That is:

- spies
- assassins
- priests/imams

Spies are entirely uninvolved in game mechanics except against each other, so simply removing them should work.

Assassins are similar, but also involved in some mission types. So in addition to removing them, you'll have to go clean out whatever missions they are required for to make sure you don't pop missions that cannot be accomplished. Not sure what file that's in (assuming it's in one we can access).

Priests and imams will be hard work to remove. They spread religion, and religion is tied to unrest. So to remove them, you need something that pretty much instantly converts populations to a new religion when they're conquered by a different religion, otherwise it will probably be too difficult to control conquered populations as churches alone have trouble converting entire populations. My idea is this:

Set all city and castle walls to give some insane bonus to conversion percentage. This would be in the export_descr_buildings.txt file, and the first 2 things in it are all the city and castle walls. If you need help with the religion conversion bonus, look in the file for the church buildings that already do this, it should be easy to figure out. This way whoever owns the city immediately gets the insane bonus for their religion in the region, which should convert it VERY fast and eliminate the need for priests.

Of course you could just remove priests from the game and deal with having religion only controlled by churches, but it will probably tend to make the church buildings WAY too important in the build order, which is why I suggested just making religion inconsequential.

You'll also have to be sure to remove heretics and witches, as without priests or assassins there will be absolutely no way to deal with them.

...and remove the pope-inspired missions that ask you to recruit priests. Yeah. Lots of work.

And I still forgot some. What the heck are you going to do about the papacy without cardinals to get elected into the college of cardinals and become popes? I don't think we can actually remove that from the game, and I honestly don't know what the game does if there are no cardinals and no pope. Could be a real mess...

[Cos3]

Thanks for the reply. I think just setting castle/city walls to give an extreme bonus to conversion percentage will eliminate the main issue I have at the moment. I'm absolutely hating having to deal with the constant spam of priests/bishops, imams and to a lesser extent (because they're far easier to deal with) heretics. With the churches doing all the work keeping religion high I can just forget about the tedium of attempting to assasinate them every turn just for them to be replaced a few turns later.

[Cos3]

This didn't work. I set the conversion percentage to its maximum at 16,960% and makes no real difference in game. Makes me wonder if these conversion percentages do anything at all.

[Foz]

You set it for all levels of city and castle walls? The lower level ones don't automatically apply when you upgrade, so you have to specify the amount for every single wall level.

[Cos3]

Yes, I set it for all levels of castle and city walls. Verified the mod worked by checking the building stats in game.

[Foz]

I found this info in another thread:

The following codes must be added ONLY in the Religion Buildings (Christian/Muslim).
{RELIGION_LEVEL}Bonus of the population's religion conversion
{AMPLIFY_RELIGION_LEVEL}Doublicates by % the Bonus of the population's religion conversion
{AGENT_LIMIT PRIEST}Increases the limitation in recruiting of Priests
Judging from this, it appears you'll need to up the conversion rates of the religious buildings, as nothing else apparently works. The only real difference is you'll need to make sure at least a basic small church is in each of your settlements. Otherwise, the idea should be exactly the same.

[pevergreen]

The Missions are all in the missions file. Check my thread in the learning to mod wiki section.

[sapi]

I found this info in another thread:

Judging from this, it appears you'll need to up the conversion rates of the religious buildings, as nothing else apparently works. The only real difference is you'll need to make sure at least a basic small church is in each of your settlements. Otherwise, the idea should be exactly the same.
You could also try having a base on the walls of about 10% and giving a level 1 church an amplify level of 10 (so 10x10% = 100% converted)