Advice?

[César Victor]

Hey, I'm looking for some advice from all the veterans of this game. I'm currently playing my first ever campaign as the Julli and things aren't looking too hot. My empire is pretty much torn down the middle. Here's how things look:

https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/ESSarrZee/map.jpg

As you can see, my empire is pretty messed up at the moment. I've lost Lemonum, Massila and Osca to rebels and the Britons are relentless on my northern east cities. Not to mention the powerful Brutii who command most of the east; they will be on my ass soon with the civil wars. I'm facing a lot of rebellion in Spain; no matter what I do I cannot raise public order. My "home states" (northern Italy) population has stopped and in some I have to put taxes to low just to get people making babies again!

My key generals are in the following places; Secundus the Brave (Faction Leader) is in western Spain, Secundus the Honest (Faction Heir) is keeping Nobus Martius happy (if he leaves, there's a riot), Publius Julius is in my Capitol, Asinius Julius is in my most north-eastern province and 73 year old Augustus the Great is in Alesia. I also have father and son Galerius and Spirius trying to keep my Gallic provinces happy (roaming Governors).

I've been reading guides and found that at this point in the game I should be way ahead (202BC). Any advice will be appreciated.

[Poulp']

from what I can see in the map,
take the whole of spain, even if it means losing northern gaul.
If you think you'll lose a province to the Britons, then tear down any military buildings inside and leave. (or fight to the last man so they don't take the town without losses)

unite your empire into a single block, (with spain in it) then march north and retake what you lost.
at the same time send a powerful navy from spain to clear the channel and north sea of enemy fleets.

stop your conquest on the continent when you find an easily defendable spot (river and bridge are great for that)

if you don't have enough generals to do the job, send captain at the head of your armies and hope for a "man of the hour"

[César Victor]

Thanks for that.

What's the best way to keep a province in order? Honestly, I can't take my faction leader away from Baetica without a riot starting. I need him to take over Spain.

[Poulp']

change your capital, and put it at the centre of your empire.

if that's not enough, then put the taxes to max, draw out your army, let it revolt and exterminate the population when you take the city back.

Now as the julii you have access to good temple to keep public order.
build temple of bacchus in the cities where you know you'll never leave a governor in.
build temple of jupiter in the cities where you can build mines to reduce corruption., and in every city where you don't know what temple to build.

[Andres]

-Build buildings that help control public unrest like temples, amphitheatre and the such.
- move your capital to the centre of your empire
- Exterminate newly conquerend provinces, it will make it easier to control them later on.
- Destroy any religious building of another faction.
- Don't build the farm upgrades, it will make population grow too fast: the more population in your settlements, the more difficult to control them.
- garrison you cities: use cheap units for this purpose, for garrisoning it's the quantity of the troops, not the quality that will increase public order
- Conquer the whole of Spain and make sure you have ports in every one of these settlements, they will give your income a nice boost.
- get Massilia back
- if necessary give up on your northern provinces, just make sure you destroy every single building in it. Leave them, with a bit of luck there will be rebels in them, forcing the Britons to siege those cities and lose some troops by conquering them - afterwards retake them and exterminate the population.

You have a big empire, you won't lose in a few turns, there's still plenty of time to recover. Besides, the most intresting and joyfull campaigns are the difficult ones ~;)

Good luck :2thumbsup:

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi,
The best way of controlling a city is not controlling it at all. If it is rioting leave the settlement to revolt. Then get a powerful army back to the town to retake it. Once you are there exterminate the populace. That should keep them "happy" (or should I say terrified) for at least ten turns. Good luck and cheers!

[César Victor]

I'll try exterminating new provinces then. I've been enslaving them up until this point. Does making a city Capitol come with any benefits? I haven't changed it yet so I aint sure.

Thanks fellas.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I'll try exterminating new provinces then. I've been enslaving them up until this point. Does making a city Capitol come with any benefits? I haven't changed it yet so I aint sure.

Thanks fellas.
Hi again,
I think that it reduces corruption and removes the negatives caused by having the capital far away. Cheers!

[SSJVegetaTrunks]

Cities that are closer to your capital have higher public order, so it is most effective to keep your capital in the center of your empire.

Chances are if your Italian cities aren't raising their population anymore, they don't NEED anymore population. You don't need a million people in each of your cities.

And exterminating towns isn't the best way, it's just the easiest. Besides, barbarian cities usually don't have very high population compared to others, so occupation should be fine. However, it's your call. Just don't enslave anymore, I'm sure your Italian cities have enough slaves.

Remember the main things that effect public order!
1. Squalor (the more people you have in a city, the lower the public order).
2. Culture Penalty (you get a public order penalty for each building you own in a city that was built by the barbarians).
3. Distance from Capital (the further away your cities are from your capital, the lower the public order).
4. Garrisons (load your bigger cities with peasants, it will improve public order).
5. Religious Buildings (get the temple that improves public order the most in your bigger cities).
6. Other buildings (things like enemy taverns and your own arenas improve public order).

Good luck, and remember: It's not over until either ever member of your family dies or you lose your last city! Even if all you have is some 18 year old 0 command, 0 management, 0 influence general in the city on Ireland, you still have a chance to come back!

Keep us updated on your campaign. I want to see how you do.

[César Victor]

Thanks for that, I will do.

I never really thought of removing old Barbarian buildings. I usually just remove the temples and build new ones but I leave the production buildings to keep a flow of soldiers on the front lines. One of my biggest non-Roman cities is Narbo Martius, currently occupied by my heir. Public order and pop growth is terrible there, pretty much on the edge of a full blown riot. I bet it's those Barbarian buildings that are the problem. Bah.

I'm gonna go demolish the buildings in my three big non-Roman cities and hopefully I can take off from here.

[César Victor]

Thanks for that, I will do.

I never really thought of removing old Barbarian buildings. I usually just remove the temples and build new ones but I leave the production buildings to keep a flow of soldiers on the front lines. One of my biggest non-Roman cities is Narbo Martius, currently occupied by my heir. Public order and pop growth is terrible there, pretty much on the edge of a full blown riot. I bet it's those Barbarian buildings that are the problem. Bah.

I'm gonna go demolish the buildings in my three big non-Roman cities and hopefully I can take off from here.

[César Victor]

Thanks for that, I will do.

I never really thought of removing old Barbarian buildings. I usually just remove the temples and build new ones but I leave the production buildings to keep a flow of soldiers on the front lines. One of my biggest non-Roman cities is Narbo Martius, currently occupied by my heir. Public order and pop growth is terrible there, pretty much on the edge of a full blown riot. I bet it's those Barbarian buildings that are the problem. Bah.

I'm gonna go demolish the buildings in my three big non-Roman cities and hopefully I can take off from here.

[César Victor]

Thanks for that, I will do.

I never really thought of removing old Barbarian buildings. I usually just remove the temples and build new ones but I leave the production buildings to keep a flow of soldiers on the front lines. One of my biggest non-Roman cities is Narbo Martius, currently occupied by my heir. Public order and pop growth is terrible there, pretty much on the edge of a full blown riot. I bet it's those Barbarian buildings that are the problem. Bah.

I'm gonna go demolish the buildings in my three big non-Roman cities and hopefully I can take off from here.

[César Victor]

Thanks for that, I will do.

I never really thought of removing old Barbarian buildings. I usually just remove the temples and build new ones but I leave the production buildings to keep a flow of soldiers on the front lines. One of my biggest non-Roman cities is Narbo Martius, currently occupied by my heir. Public order and pop growth is terrible there, pretty much on the edge of a full blown riot. I bet it's those Barbarian buildings that are the problem. Bah.

I'm gonna go demolish the buildings in my three big non-Roman cities and hopefully I can take off from here.

[César Victor]

Thanks for that, I will do.

I never really thought of removing old Barbarian buildings. I usually just remove the temples and build new ones but I leave the production buildings to keep a flow of soldiers on the front lines. One of my biggest non-Roman cities is Narbo Martius, currently occupied by my heir. Public order and pop growth is terrible there, pretty much on the edge of a full blown riot. I bet it's those Barbarian buildings that are the problem. Bah.

I'm gonna go demolish the buildings in my three big non-Roman cities and hopefully I can take off from here.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

You are welcome to any advise. No need to thank me at least :bow:

[Roman_Man#3]

if you posted that many times on purpose, then you are breaking the rules. If that was an accident, please say so, so a mod can delete the extras.

[César Victor]

Oops, sorry about that, not quite sure how I did it though :embarassed: I did post those by accident, yeah.

I just "cleansed" my Gallic and Spanish cities (I took Massila and Lugdunum back btw, woo!) of most Barbarian and Carthage buildings, leaving some temporarily to keep the population happy.

New question; what's the best way to deal with a city that's pretty much fallen to pieces? Patavium is currently diseased and rioting with a -2000 income and over 27'000 inhabitants. No idea how it got that bad :S Shall I just demolish what I can and restart or just wait it out?

[Squid]

-2000 income doesn't mean that the city is losing money. In RTW the cost of your empire is split among your cities based on their population, so if a city has 10% of your population it will carry 10% of the expenses. All the -2000 means is that Patavium isn't pulling its share of the expenses, in other words it might still be your biggest money making city, but the amount of money it makes is less than the game says its expending. So don't really pay too much attention to it. As long as your bottom line is black you're ok.

To fix disease in a city, build the sewer line of improvements as this improves public health.

As some have alluded to, any building that is built by a faction that is not of the same culture as you are will give the city the building is in a cultural penalty that effects public order.

[César Victor]

I removed unnessasary buildings in Patavium, using the funds to start an aquaduct and installed a good general as governor. Hopefully that'll clean up the remaining plague within the city and keep the public order high. I'm going to leave my faction leader in Corduba and use his army to recapture Osca (I might do a video of this showing off my primitive, laughable tactics).

Maybe this topic should be put somewhere else as I've pretty much turned it into a blog of my campaign :sweatdrop:

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Good luck Ceasar!

[bedlam28]

Hiya,

to find the centre point to place your capital use this fantastic calculator:

http://bbb.unknownnet.com/rtw/bestcap.htm

I dont know who made it - to give credit, but its invaluable.

Good Luck.

[x-dANGEr]

Build a couple of armies. Just pillage.. Wherever you want. (I usually conquer Carthagians, then Barbarians (Germania, Dacia, Gaul and Britannia), then Spain, then Numidia..)

Just remember.. Have more armies and be on the offensive. You will have so much money that you will just bribe any attacking forces.. Remember to exterminate and try to keep taxes as high as possible, and always bribe/gift when above 50k ~;)

[César Victor]

Things are looking slightly better. Practically everything west of Trier is under my command. My Spanish cities are being slightly less rebellious; I guess I have to treat em a little better to win them completely over ;) I have the Gauls and the Carthaginians holed up in their final cities (Numantia and Palma) and these two shouldn't be too hard to capture. The only thing that is annoying me is the fact my leader is confined to Corduba as,the moment he leaves, the city riots. Not to mention his army is out capturing Numantia. I'm trying to get a new governor over there but my leader is pushing 60 and I want to get some more out of him before he kicks the bucket.

[Severous]

Corduba is a tough city to control.

Your faction leader has many green influence points so that helps him control unrest.

Another governor wont be so good so expect problems ahead.

Good luck

[SSJVegetaTrunks]

Corduba is hard to control when you're Carthage, so I'd imagine it's harder with the culture penalty and possibly more unrest. I suggest getting a large peasant garrison and destroying and rebuilding most of the Carthaginian buildings, unless upgrading them would be faster.

[César Victor]

I demolished most of the foreign buildings. The only ones left are the governers villa (not sure what the Carthage one is called), a Barbarian farmland and Carthage walls.

[fallen851]

Umm... create an army. Pick a fight. Invade a British-held city, and win.

The Britons were by far the easiest nation to fight in vanilla, due to the overall suckage of chariots.

[César Victor]

I just destroyed the Gauls and Carthage in one swift turn. Sveet.

I also have enough governors now to run Spain effectively. Time to solidify my current empire, build an army and beat the hell outa Britain for the next ten years.

[LuckyDog Trojan]

(In addition to all of the excellent suggestions above): May I suggest, while you prepare for your invasion of Britannia, that you blockade as many of the Briton ports as you can. Keep your fleets there and continue in blockade mode for turn after turn. This will soon produce an adverse affect upon their economy.

Also, don't overlook the benefit of using a powerful, 1-2 combo punch of sending a spy & assassin just ahead of your army(s). Assassins are a great way to conduct pre-emptive strike raids by destroying important war-producing buildings in enemy held towns prior to launching a full scale attack. I use them in this manner - and - if more conducive to the situation, I'll have them take out buildings that contribute to happiness (temples) or economy (forums, etc.). Sending a spy in first will show your assassin what buildings are present (in addition to giving you tactical awareness of the enemy composition.)

Good Luck!

[César Victor]

Wtf..."The Senate wishes for your leader to commit suicide or you will be outlawed"

This came around fast. I still have some Britons to kill. No way in hell am I killing off my leader, he's one of my best. The Senate hates me and the plebs love me but I can't take Rome as I have no real forces in Arretium to deal with the Senate armies. What should I do? Obey the senate and attack once I build an army up or ignore them and hope the Brutii and Scipii don't join in the attack?

[jhhowell]

Wtf..."The Senate wishes for your leader to commit suicide or you will be outlawed"

This came around fast. I still have some Britons to kill. No way in hell am I killing off my leader, he's one of my best. The Senate hates me and the plebs love me but I can't take Rome as I have no real forces in Arretium to deal with the Senate armies. What should I do? Obey the senate and attack once I build an army up or ignore them and hope the Brutii and Scipii don't join in the attack?

Depends. I'd tell the Senate to "FABRICATI DIEM, PVNCS!", you can probably survive anything the AI can throw at you. But if you're feeling cautious then accepting the suicide and building a fresh army in northern Italy would be the safe and certain plan. You'll only have a few extra turns before this happens again, from what I've read.

Do you know where the Brutus and Scipio armies are? Unless they have significant armies in south Italy, I doubt they'll be an urgent problem for you. Depending on what happened in north Africa you might even be able to nick a cheap city or two off the Scipios.

For future reference, when you see high pleb popularity combined with decreasing Senate popularity, it's a good idea to build a top of the line full stack army or two in your starting provinces. Also, if you want to make the civil war easier try bribing small to medium sized armies from the other Roman factions. You should have money to burn by now, may as well use it.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi again,
The best option is to let the leader commit suicide. This will buy you about 10-20 turns to get your senate standing up and to get yourself a strong force in the Italian Peninsula and on your borders with the other Roman factions. If you fail to be able to evade the senate's suicide orders then keep on letting your family die till you are ready for them on the defence. Just make sure that you label your worst generals as heirs - this help you get rid of them faster. When you are ready refuse their orders and prepare for a terrible assault on all fronts. Good luck and cheers!

[Andres]

If you have stockpiles of cash, bribe one of the big roman armies (the Senate always has a full stack near Rome). Don't forget you can actually use bribed Roman armies. They don't disband like bribed barbarian armies. Build other units asap in the provinces close to Italy, ship as many units over to Italy as well.

Expect your income to drop once you are at war with the Roman families and the Senate. You might consider taking a defensive attitude towards the britons, whatever units you don't need on your northern front, you can try to get to Italy or disband to save money.

The civil war is a very intresting episode in your campaign. Enjoy it ~:cheers:

Don't suicide your faction leader. Make those quarreling old women of the Senate bow for you :whip:

[LuckyDog Trojan]

Cesar:
I am also playing a Julii campaign right now and I'm at about the same stage in the game as you are. Rome, however, is now mine as is Capua to the south. I'm also on the offensive against the Scipii as all of Sicily, Carthage and a couple of other provinces in N. Africa are now mine as well.

Against the Brutii, (in the frontier provinces northeast of Italy) I am currently maintaining a defensive 'come & get me' posture. Much to my delight - as I anticipated they would - the boys in green continue to waste good men in their attempts to scale my walled cities. :wall: FOOLS! It's just a matter of time before attrition begins to work in my favor. Trading one of my guys for 5 or 6 of theirs suits me just fine.

But back to the matter at hand: WATCH OUT for a demand from the Senate that you give them some of your hard earned 'moola' (denarii). They don't just want 'some' of it for appeasement - they want a whole bunch! I was rolling along with a nice bankroll of D 200,000 and then 'BAM', all of a sudden I was down to D 18,000! The thing is, I don't remember clicking on a consent window to allow SPQR to have access to my funds. Oh well. The word is now out - I'm looking to hang the accountants up on the tree of woe along with their buddies from the Senate.

[César Victor]

I decided I wasn't happy with the situation and reloaded an old save from two years prior to this event. I recaptured all the land I previously owned and started building up armies in Arretium and surrounding areas. While I'm doing this, I'm placing some Diplomats around some Scipii and Brutii captains, getting ready for some hardcore bribery and putting a small army outside Thassalonica (Brutii). I noticed Rome is only protected by a unit of 1st Legionaries, a general and his bodyguard and a unit of Praetorian sitting idly. I've decided to send a young general and a few cavalry units (as well as a couple of well placed spies inside Rome's walls) so that in one swift move I can take almost all of Italy, kill the Senate's leader, capture it's capitol and capture an eagle.

Can't wait :D I just wish those Romans would ditch the Onagers. They mash up your nicely lined up Legions. No fair.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I am sure that you can mod the AI of all factions to cause them to be less agressive and use less siege in their unit choices.

[César Victor]

I have conquered all of Italy woopwoopi! This shall make an interesting AAR when I come to make it. 15 more provinces and I have my first campaign finished :2thumbsup:

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Well done Ceasar, but beware the Brutii in Greece! If you ever feel the need to end combat ask the Scipii for a ceasefire and an alliance. They, having not fought you or having no reason to continue combat, could possibly end the war. Once you have an alliance with them the Brutii will probably automatically end the fighting. If they attack you then is a large chance that the Scipii may automatically side with you and end all alliance treaties with the Brutii henceforth gaining you another valuable ally for the true Roman cause - if you are lucky they may even join you in assaults on those cursed Brutii! Also if you ever manage to keep at peace with the Brutii/Scipii then take the settlements that rebel from them. This is a good way of taking allied provinces without creating enemies or paying for them - I used this tactic against the Scipii during my Julii campaign. Good luck with your civil war!

[César Victor]

I have a headache. Fighting on two fronts is leaving me stretched. I have my heir in the Belgium area trying to gain control the last 5 or so British lands (which won't stop rebelling) and I am also conquering Sicily with another general. Maybe I should have read Omanes advice earlier and made an alliance. No chance of that now :dizzy2: I have about 13 provinces to go then I can finally move on from the Julii after almost 1 1/2 month of playing as them!

[LuckyDog Trojan]

Cesar:
Regarding the rebellion in those British provinces - sounds to me like it's time to move out, let the brigands take over and then move back in. Spare no one! Don't occupy, don't take slaves... exterminate. They will get in line for a while freeing you up to worry about more important matters of empire.

[Warmaster Horus]

How much money do you have? If in a good financial situation, follow Andresthecunning's advice - to bribe the Brutii&Scipii armies.
If you're short of income, I'd say charge down the Greece, exterminate a couple of the cities there (don't worry, you can still get a good amount of population LATER, by putting a governor in the city, removing all other governors from their cities, and enslaving the next town you capture; all the slaves will go to the city with the governor)
Then destroy all the buildings in the city and leave. The City will eventually rebel, and you'll have loads of cash.
Looking forward to the AAR!

[César Victor]

I think my biggest problem is the lack of a real Roman army on my frontline. The under the command of my heir is made up of mercenaries and a few Roman Cavalry. Not too good. The nearest big town to me where an army can be built is Alesia but it would take atleast 3 turns to get back there.

[Warmaster Horus]

Then I'd build an army in Alesia, and have it led by a captain. In the end, it all boils down to your capacity as a general - be it a captain or a member of the family who leads the army. And anyway soon enough you'll probably get a proposition to adopt the captain, so....

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

If you are struggling to hold all fronts then you could attempt to retreat backwards, by abandoning your settlements, so that Alesia is on the front line, then armies can get to the front easily. Also train up large full stack armies from your towns in Italy, rally them together and send them to the front line, by ship, to battle with the Brutii. I also suggest you leave the Scipii and send the armies that you have in their lands to attack the Brutii. At current they are not a threat to you and if you leave them alone then it may be easier to achieve the peace later. Focus on defending against Britain and destroying the Brutii. It is often best to try to only focus on one enemy at a time rather than attacking multiple enemies on several fronts. Good luck.

[César Victor]

Damn, these were sweet victories;

https://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7633/victory1bi2.th.png (https://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=victory1bi2.png)

https://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4930/victory2vm2.th.png (https://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=victory2vm2.png)

Thought I'd share them with you.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Congratulations Cesar! Carry on like that and the Scipii will eventually bow down to you as the true Emperors of the Roman World!

How are things going elsewhere?

[César Victor]

I'm going alright; 9 more provinces and I've met the victory conditions. I have a couple of rebellions going on but I'll make sure those who dare defy me are put to the sword :2thumbsup:

I really wanna get this campaign finished ASAP. I want to give another faction a turn, I'm sick of these Romans after a month+ of playing as em!

[King of Kings]

I would take my armies out of all my spanish provinces an wait till they rebel.Then try and take them back if you do exterminate both settlements.Then send all your forces to try and take Spain and rebuild from there.Hope i helped.

[César Victor]

Oh bugger. I underestimated the Brutii. They've snuck up on me, taken Segestica and are threatening Patavium. They have armies with about 5 Praetorian in + legionary and cavalry. Sheet.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi again,
Now the best option Cesar is to train an huge army in Italy to deal with them. Rally them up in the North and defend everything you have with three or above full stacks. After that go on a rampage with all of your three stacks and take as many settlements as you can. Leave behind about half a stack at a time to defend the settlements. Try to keep them together, however. This may be slower, but it guarantees that the Brutii cannot usually beat them. Good luck!

[LuckyDog Trojan]

I'm going alright; 9 more provinces and I've met the victory conditions. I have a couple of rebellions going on but I'll make sure those who dare defy me are put to the sword :2thumbsup:

I really wanna get this campaign finished ASAP. I want to give another faction a turn, I'm sick of these Romans after a month+ of playing as em!

Couldn't agree more. I'm ready to move on. I'm thinking about playing one of the more challenging factions in the far east. (Parthia). How about you?

[César Victor]

Heh, I've been thinking the same for ages! I want to my make my full length AAR on the Parthians.

I may end up having to pay off the Brutii. They're too strong. I have no idea where theyre getting these armies fulla Praetorians from. The Scipii aint much of a problem. They only have about 4-5 provinces left.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Now is the best time to strike down those pesky Scipii! If you need nine provinces try to get them from further North and from the Scipii. I also suggest you try to create riots using spies in the Brutii's larger cities - that should stop the Pretorians and keep them away for a while till they get them back. In the meantime train huge full stacks in Italy and get 'em to the front line as fast as you can. Also try and gain the British provinces that border with the enemy. That will stop them from tactically flanking you and giving you a new frontier to defend. Good luck!

[LuckyDog Trojan]

Heh, I've been thinking the same for ages! I want to my make my full length AAR on the Parthians.

I may end up having to pay off the Brutii. They're too strong. I have no idea where theyre getting these armies fulla Praetorians from. The Scipii aint much of a problem. They only have about 4-5 provinces left.

If you do happen to create & write an AAR - especially on the Parthians, I'll be observing very closely. Looking forward to reading it - and - good luck with your final end-game with those pesky Brutii! ~:cheers:

[César Victor]

I'm split between the Parthians and the Germans and I'm inclined to go with the latter because I heard the Parthians are rock hard to play as. I shall see.

My campaign is going awesomely. TWO more provinces to capture. Yeah, TWO! How'd I manage that you say? Very, very sweetly :D

I captured all of Sicily and Africa from the Scipii, destroying them. Even though my Gaulic cities are taking a beating, I took my African army across the sea to Greece, carefully fighting and evading the Brutii fleets before finally landing and taking all of the cities below Thessalonica. I'm now aiming to take back a heavily guarded Patavium and use my Greek forces to capture Rhodes. I also have to keep the Brutii offa my land in Gaul- I'm hanging on by a thread!

I wish I could get some pics up but the computer I use for RTW has no internet connection. By the time I return, I may well have finished my first campaign!

[Warmaster Horus]

Nicely done! I myself would not have the patience of evading the fleets as you did. I'd recommend gauging the strength of the defenders in Rhodes, and assaulting with a relatively proportionned army. Once you get that, your financial gain will rise sky high!
Can't wait for your next AAR!

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Neither can I. Good luck Cesar!

[LuckyDog Trojan]

Nicely done! I myself would not have the patience of evading the fleets as you did. I'd recommend gauging the strength of the defenders in Rhodes, and assaulting with a relatively proportionned army. Once you get that, your financial gain will rise sky high!
Can't wait for your next AAR!

How does the phrase go... 'Discretion is the better part of valor'?

I too wasn't much into evasive sea tactics until the time I had a fleet that got jumped - with a three-quarter stack army on board no less - and then sunk with all hands lost at sea. I was, shall we say, not very happy. ~:pissed:

Since then (when sea-lifting armies) I've learned to either have a strong fleet or two in the vanguard to "plow the road" or make judicious use of the good 'ol art of evasion.

Cesar:
I too have heard that Parthia can be quite challenging from a financial management and army unit type point of view. Oh well - I guess I'll find out in the not-too-distant future. I'll let you know if I get my rear-end handed to me.

[César Victor]

Woo! I finished it! I had to go outa my way and capture some Egyptian cities cause the damn Brutii attacked my Greek cities but meh, no biggie. I feel this campaign was nicely done, albeit very cheaply done at the end. For now, I'm leaving this campaign faaar behind. Bloody headaches I got from it. *sigh*

As for now, I am split between the Germans, the Parthians or a BI campaign. I'm going to give the Parthians a go and if I find it too tough, I'll revert to the Germans.

[Warmaster Horus]

Yeah, going up to Egypt is kind of exagerated I think.
Wasn't too cheap for me... Flanking them on the campaign map WAS a good idea.
Good luck with Parthia/Germans!

[Ossie The Great]

parthia, germans, and armenia are my 3 favorite fractions so good luck :bow:

[César Victor]

Okay, I've decided. I don't think the battles will be much fun with Parthia, firing arrows and running etc, so I'm going to do my AAR on the Germans at H/H. This may go disatrously wrong but it shall be fun to watch if it does!

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Good luck!

[Ossie The Great]

when you start to get cataphract's with parthia that is quite cool :bow: :bow:

[LuckyDog Trojan]

Cesar: Good luck with Germania. Have fun fighting in the snow and forest lands.

Oscarreeve: The cataphract's are what I'm going for once I start a Parthian campaign. According to Barbarosa in his Armenian AAR, they can be quite effective when used properly. Also, from what I've been able to piece together, combat must be approached somewhat differently when playing as Parthia. We'll see... ... ...