View Full Version : What factions have you played 0.8 campaigns as?
Teleklos Archelaou
01-30-2007, 19:32
Just curious. Not talking about 10 turn aborted campaigns though - real campaigns over a number of years (even if you lost after three or four, that's fine), but not the ones you started and only got a few years into and then quit.
And I'm only talking about in the 0.8 build too. Not talking about 0.72 or 0.74 campaigns.
You can vote on multiple factions, but you can't vote again after you cast your vote now.
Casse and Romani. :smash:
Had very fun with Casse til some bug stopped my campaign, but Romani where fun too.
Had a great campaign as Macedonia, conquered Greece, Southern Italy, half of Asia Minor. (And some of the most interesting AI behaviours... Rome got kicked out of, uh... Rome, and expanded into Spain!)
But the I quit it when my grand battle-fleet (5 biremes :laugh4:), containing my only character with any command points and one full stack of elite troops, got destroyed by one egyptian trireme. :wall: As well as because Asia Minor is becoming No-Man's land with neither me or Egypt have enough troops (or courage) to attack each other.
Great fun though.
Two full campaigns with Makedonia and Baktria (both ~195 BCE, only 5 CTDs overall!).
I played a Epirote, Hayasdan, Adui and tryed Casse but got whiped out after some turns (spawned rebels were to strong).
Curently playing Lusotannia
ive voted cartage, cause it's the first faction i had a long campaign on the new 0.8 build
but:
0.72:
Pahlava (extensive long playing)
Sauromate (just tryied)
YueZhe (just tried)
Roma (just tryied)
Casse (just tryied)
Germans (just tryied)
0.74
pahlava (extensive long playing)
Koinon Hellenon (extensive long playing)
Aedui (extensive long playing)
0.80
Pahlava (small campaign, waiting for 0.81 to try them more extensive)
Koinon hellenon (extensive long playing)
Cartage (extensive long playing and finished)
Lusitanians (extensive long playing)
Roma (extensive long playing)
Ponto (just tryied)
Aedui/Arverni (just tryied)
Germans (just tryied)
"Extensive long playing" means what it means: Ive playied it a lot.
"just tryied" means not ive just tryied a custom battle, but ive playied at last 10/15 years.
Salut!
0.72 Aedui + some Hayasdan tryouts
0.74 Glorious Hayk, forced to give up by CTD.
0.8 A small Dacian campaign (took Greece, found out they weren't complete, got bored)
And Qart-Hadastim (going for the long campaign)
Justiciar
01-30-2007, 21:28
Casse, Sweboz, Hayasdan, Pontos, and currently (even though I didn't tick it) Epeiros.
DeathEmperor
01-30-2007, 21:52
Being a first time EB player my first taste of Eb was .80 and with Epeiros. Hard at first, but once I got my mines up and running I actually stood a chance against Rome and Carthage (I prefer to use their Vanilla names).
After I did my Epeiros one I started another as my favourite faction Arche Seleukeia. Absolutely amazing campaign dealing with the Ptolemaio and powerhouse Baktrians. :2thumbsup:
Severian Huizi
01-30-2007, 22:08
Getai, Lusotannan, KH and Baktria.
Baktria and the KH in particular are great twists on the standard Hellenic model for most mods, which is usually to be somewhat overpowered. Baktria's campaign tends to even out in difficulty if one maintains alliances with the nomads and concentrates military on AS while also capturing those Indian provinces. For the KH however, i'm on year 254 and the intensity has rarely let up, primarily I think because I didn't go for ceasefire/alliances with Makedonia or the Epirotes respectively. Also, some sort of AI hiccup or blithe action by me led to both AS and the Ptolemies declaring war and going Operation Overlord on Krete and Rhodes (got to love that BI .exe).
The Getai campaign was pretty good as well, if short. Things get a bit easy for them when you capture those eastern Eleutheroi provinces and start recruiting half stacks of Sauromatae horse archers from your type IVs.
Boyar Son
01-30-2007, 23:20
See that 1 next to havent played EB yet? hehe.
Fondor_Yards
01-30-2007, 23:24
Getai, Lusotannan, Baktria, Saka, Seleucid, Pontus, Aedui, Qarthadastim and Makedonian campains of at least 20 years. Along with a bunch of smaller ones, *an Epeiros one, one early getai one that ctded, a like 10 second ptolemaic one, a few other lusotannan ones, 10 second averni one before changing to aedui*
Mordecai
01-30-2007, 23:48
Mostly Seleuceia, but I've also played campaigns as Makedon, KH, Epeiros, Qart-Hadastim, Ptolemy, oh yeah and Roma. I'd play a decent amount of time before giving up to try a new Seleuceia campaign.
Geoffrey S
01-31-2007, 00:22
In .74 got far with a Sweboz and Makedon campaign; in .8 I'm busy with a proper Epeiros campaign. At 256 bc now, taking it slowly and steadily, but I only have access to a PC once every two/three weeks so the going is slow.
Kralizec
01-31-2007, 01:00
Only 3, I think.
Koinon Hellenon (briefly, lost the save files)
Casse (till around 222 BC if I recall correctly)
Pahlava (briefly, will pick it up again some time)
As soon as I have the time, I'll continue my Casse campaign as I'm very close to meeting the victory objective, and the first celtic reform is closeby :2thumbsup:
CountArach
01-31-2007, 06:17
Only Saka Rauka, and I'm proud to say that it is the only campaign I have ever lost. I made one stupid error and lost my entire army... I was left with 3 family members so I just let my capital revolt.
So far, one each of Casse and KH, both of which I lost. One Averni campaign, going strong, and a Macedonia campaign, also going well.
casse 210 BC-ish
Romani 150 BC-ish
Macedon 180 BC-ish
Currently: Hayasdan 210 BC-ish
d'Arthez
01-31-2007, 11:00
Romani, the Koinon and Baktria.
Definitely interested in campaigns as the Saka and Saba, but I will wait until .81 is around for those.
Hydromorph
01-31-2007, 13:34
Casse - Rebels, Rebels, Rebels :sweatdrop:
Aedui - No money, Keep playing, No money, just a few more cities, No money :wall:
Arverni - See Aedui :wall:
Makedonia - Go in debt, destroy KH and Epeiros, build mines, money, money, money :2thumbsup:
Koinon Hellenon - See Makedonia :2thumbsup:
Arche Seleukeia - Keep Rebels and Ptolemaioi busy, build mines, money, money, money :2thumbsup:
Lots of fun, being a Celt not so much fun after 220BC :no:
The Mod? :2thumbsup:
Shifty_GMH
01-31-2007, 14:08
Romani and Lusotannan
Puupertti Ruma
01-31-2007, 15:15
First played as Lusotannan, conquered almost all of spain and got bored after having too much money from my mines.
Then tried Sauromataens, got pwnd in couple of years. Tried Arverni, same deal only faster.
Now I'm playing again as Sauromataens and having a blast.
Teleklos Archelaou
01-31-2007, 15:45
What surprises me most is the few people selecting Ptolemaioi.
Kralizec
01-31-2007, 16:11
What surprises me most is the few people selecting Ptolemaioi.
Why ~:confused:
Laundreu
01-31-2007, 17:15
My preference is always to play a more isolated nation - Casse suits me wonderfully, and when Sabyn is more complete it will too. Ditto the Getai. Big empires like the Ptolemaic and Seleukid Empires and such are not my style 'cos they're huge and frankly I get bored when my empire reaches such heights. I'm not fond of playing next door to those same empires because 18 stack armies versus my half-stack army generally makes me a sad panda.
One thing I would like - any of the polities able to book it to Ankyra really fast? I might enjoy playing with just Ankyra.
Severian Huizi
01-31-2007, 17:54
My preference is always to play a more isolated nation - Casse suits me wonderfully, and when Sabyn is more complete it will too. Ditto the Getai. Big empires like the Ptolemaic and Seleukid Empires and such are not my style 'cos they're huge and frankly I get bored when my empire reaches such heights. I'm not fond of playing next door to those same empires because 18 stack armies versus my half-stack army generally makes me a sad panda.
One thing I would like - any of the polities able to book it to Ankyra really fast? I might enjoy playing with just Ankyra.
Yeah, the sprawl of AS and the Ptolemies is tough to grasp. I'd much rather buildup an insignificant tribe like the Getai into a proper nation or otherwise be the underdog up against the two Successors.
I'll admit AS looks interesting though. It will probably be one of my first .81 campaigns if it really does feel like trying to desperately hold together a rapidly fragmenting empire existing on borrowed time, which is how it's looked observing the AI during my last Baktria campaign.
-Praetor-
01-31-2007, 17:59
What surprises me most is the few people selecting Ptolemaioi.
Why
Consequences of vainilla trauma... :dozey:
On a different matter, the 3 most voted factions are Romanii, Quarthadastim, and Koinon Hellenon.
Interesting! :book2:
Hayasdan, Baktria, Sweboz and Makedon... Hayasdan hardest by far being the only faction fighting Arche Seleukeia year out an year in...
Might considering to play as the Ptolemaioi on my next campaign.
Quende
Teleklos Archelaou
01-31-2007, 18:17
Yeah, it is interesting. On the one hand you want to do cooler things for factions people aren't playing as much as, but on the other, you want to do cooler things for factions people *are* playing more too. :grin: Hmmm. I'm wondering what we could do to make things even more interesting for those most-played factions... :laugh4:
What surprises me most is the few people selecting Ptolemaioi.
Well, of the successor states Makedonia got the tradition, Arche Seleukia cool units, Baktria a nice eastern touch and Ptolemies .... the rest. ~D
And who wants to play as a faction with an eagle as emblem anyway....
*takes cover*
Mordecai
01-31-2007, 18:44
I really like Ptolemies Thureophoroi and their Agema are pretty deadly too.
but yeah those two factions are hard faction to play because of their size but if you work on your economy and bolster your defences where needed. ( Mazaka, Zadrakata, Antiocheia-Margiane. Charax, Damaskos. For AS) You can really become a powerhouse fast. But I 've been a hardcore roman ever since the game came out. And EB Made me want to try all the other great factions. So thanks:2thumbsup:
spirit_of_rob
01-31-2007, 19:15
Roman 240BC. Epirote 250 BC KH 241 BC and ive just started a Carthage one
Elminster12
01-31-2007, 19:59
I do a lot fo short campaigns...it is very rare that I stick to just one for very long. This is for 0.8 only, btw.
Koinon Hellenon- Did great with them on 0.74. But I was fool-hardy and lost Athens. Sparta followed. Yeah...I rolled over like the 0.74 KH...that hurt my pride a lot.
Sauromatae- I decided to play them because some had complained they were impossible. They're not. I steamrolled the Greek settlements to my south using careful HA tactics. Accrued something like 60,000 mnai of debt, but made my way out of it, but I had major problems with revolts. Should've exterminated Tanais and Olbia:wall: Hell of a lot of fun though! I'll definitely try them again at some point!
Epeiros- The "e" is for "epic." I hung on to Taras and marched on Pella and then Demetrias. Had a number of huge battles with the Maks, but the most challenging were definitely in defense of Taras. 4 major battles, all within the span of 2 and half years or so. Fighting Triarii is pure hell, but I managed to stave them off all four times(with heavy casualties on both sides each and every time), though in the final battle Helenos died in combat when he was pinned behind a triarii by leves and the Roman general(who also wouldn't survive the battle! think was it was Cotta). I was able to secure peace for SPQR after that, though it was quite expensive and short-lived. Left off in 261 or so, building an army to march on the Koinon and the Antigonids in Korinthos.
Arverni- Had at least a dozen battles with the Aedui in the span of the first four years or so before finally evicting them from Gaul proper, leaving them with only Mediolanum in Transalpine Gaul. They have since captured Massilia and the Romans took Segesta. So I'm just going to unify the rest of Gaul and leave them for last, in hopes that they'll provide a useful buffer against Roman aggression. Then I'll mass my armies and storm Transalpine Gaul as well as Italia. Currently playing.
Pontos- Of course I played them! Didn't play my cards well and was betrayed by the Seleukids around 263 or so, just as my economy was completing its recovery. I managed to turn the tide against them anyways, evicting them from Anatolia and capturing Mazaka. However, a few years later, they showed up on my doorstep with about three full stacks from the east of elite troops. Pontos just didn't have the recruitment to deal with that yet...
Zalmoxis
02-01-2007, 04:23
Getai so far, but I'll get around to others, eventually.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
02-01-2007, 08:37
I have played an Arche Selucia campign and a Casse one, but I only voted for Arche Selucia - I didn't realise it was multiple choice :embarassed:
Played as Casse, my first choice and I've recently started up again after my victory. Had the Romans get chewed up by the Epierotes and currently trying to wage a three front war against them, the Sweboz who've built a nice, and fairly large, germanic-baltic empire, and the Quarthadastim who're currently trying to face ten-thousand blue painted kelts marching across the Iberian peninsula.
Also played with the Lusitannan where I united the peninsula within fifteen years, then played for another twenty or so before I lost interest at the time.
The Getai have also recieved attention, their elite archers kick considerable ass. Stopped playing soon after the Romani betrayed me and then lost Illyria.
The Aedui were my second choice to play, and I only stopped when the five front war I was involved in got tedious. Haven't made it to the first reforms with them as yet either, though with four units of Gasetae massed on one flank you don't need all that much else.
The Koinon was a welcome break from the barescrapped coffers of just about all the others apart from the Getai, got rich enough to support the Aedui with fifteen thousand a turn without it keeping my workmen from having to constantly build extra strongrooms to house all the gold and silver. With all the mines around the agean it got slightly out of hand since I was also able to pay a million mnai to bribe a gallic settlemnt and then hand it to the Aedui, and still it wasn't causing me to have anything like a cash deficiancy.
I really haven't played an extensive campaign with anyone yet, but I can tell you that the first faction I would really love to play as are the Saka. They remind me very strongly of the Armenians and Parthians of vanilla Rome, and I loved them very much. I'm waiting on further updates to the faction, then I plan to play as them a whole lot. :2thumbsup:
Boyar Son
02-01-2007, 23:02
Well I wouldnt want to play as the ptolemoi. Other faction are surounded by enemies while Egypt only takes down seluekia.
Unless they have a real goal (other then the Arche) or something to make the game exciting, (like the casse conquoring the brythonnic isles) they'll just have one goal. :egypt:
Tellos Athenaios
02-01-2007, 23:08
All Greeks have at least 5 competitors to take care off, though these involve allied factions you need to get rid of as well. The Ptolemaioi for example will have to fight:
-Makedonia
-Koinon Hellenon
-Arche Seleukia
-Pontos
-Epeiros
-Saba
EDIT: Though I must partially agree with Bavarian Barbarian that the Ptolemaio don't look that exiting to play with... I must also say that their factional units aren't that bad; and in fact are just nice when you've seen the more conventional 'elite' and 'medium' Greeks (aka Thorakitai and Hypaspistai) - I mean those are good(looking) as well but tend to get a bit repetetive, Galatians and Ethiopians on the other hand...
Fondor_Yards
02-01-2007, 23:33
All Greeks have at least 5 competitors to take care off, though these involve allied factions you need to get rid of as well. The Ptolemaioi for example will have to fight:
-Makedonia
-Koinon Hellenon
-Arche Seleukia
-Pontos
-Epeiros
-Saba
EDIT: Though I must partially agree with Bavarian Barbarian that the Ptolemaio don't look that exiting to play with... I must also say that their factional units aren't that bad; and in fact are just nice when you've seen the more conventional 'elite' and 'medium' Greeks (aka Thorakitai and Hypaspistai) - I mean those are good(looking) as well but tend to get a bit repetetive, Galatians and Ethiopians on the other hand...
Yea they have to fight them at some point, but not for a long time. It's basicly just the Seleucids, and once you've beaten them, you can steamroll the rest easy.
Tiberius Nero
02-02-2007, 17:11
Pontos very briefly (10 years give or take). It seems an awful lot of fun (although I was surprised the AS didn't attack me at all...), but I will wait 0.81 before I commit to along campaign, as many factions are incomplete atm and Pontos among them.
kripsomaniac
02-04-2007, 15:38
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
What surprises me most is the few people selecting Ptolemaioi.
Well, Conquering Egypt is so fun, why would you start with it ? :beam:
Actually Egypt/ptolemaioi is one of the reason I was interested in mods.
The RTW vanilla Egypt was so terribly inaccurate ..... :furious3:
A real pain in the neck (the Germanic phalanx was another one ...... ). I never played those factions in the vanilla game because of that and yet I would have loved to. That was just too much.
As for now, I play Getai (I like thracians, don't know if it's the 'phrygian' caps or the scythe-like weapons ...)
CaesarAugustus
02-05-2007, 01:06
I've tried several factions just for practice, I'm debating whether to play Roma or the Seleukids for my first .81 campaign. Its actually quite fun messing around with history on a non-serious campaign. (Such as my Casse campaign where I am sending a fleet carrying a full stack to conquer India, just so I can recruit elephants for the war back in Britain:juggle2: ).
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
02-05-2007, 02:15
I wouldn't amagine that Casse would get elephants. Not even the Romans can get Indian elephants.
Severian Huizi
02-05-2007, 03:29
You wonder whether Vanilla's Mummy Returns Egypt was the result of a total blithe lack of research, or a desire to cut back on history in favor of having a faction setup most history-illiterate gamers could still identify and quantify.
Kongeslask
02-05-2007, 03:48
Supposedly, CA has stated that the designers preferred to have them in cartoon egyptian style, considering it more "fun" or somesuch than to have them in a more realistic hellenic style. Which tells you much about their mindset. The sad thing is that EB has shown that you can have a far more historically correct game and make it more varied and interesting and even more beautiful than the cartoony populist style used in the base game. I had a faint hope that it would actually inspire them to make MTW2 more realistic, but while it is not as outlandish as vanilla RTW was, it still falls far short of the mark. A crying shame.
-Praetor-
02-05-2007, 05:14
The sad thing is that EB has shown that you can have a far more historically correct game and make it more varied and interesting and even more beautiful than the cartoony populist style used in the base game. I had a faint hope that it would actually inspire them to make MTW2 more realistic, but while it is not as outlandish as vanilla RTW was, it still falls far short of the mark. A crying shame.
Oh, you`re wrong there buddy.
That`s not the sad part.
The sad part is that we couldn`t get past vainilla trauma and try EB egyptians... look at their votes, compare them with Arche Seleukeia or Epeiros...
Or perhaps, we too can`t erase the image of egyptians that we learnt in comic books and in prep-history class... and we incounciously expect it to see it on a game... ~:(
That would be sad...
The Celtic Viking
02-05-2007, 16:25
Sweboz - This has always been my favourite faction. It's the first one I tried in EB, and faithfully also the one I first played in 0.8. Love it - their generals are true badass butchers.
Arverni - The second one I played, and through them I've learned to despise the Aedui. Kill them, kill them all and do it quickly. They don't deserve to play on. I liked it aswell.
Romani - A little easier this one. Didn't enjoy it as much as the "barbarian" factions (as I usually prefer to DESTROY Rome rather than fight for her :laugh4:) but it was fun too. I'm thinking of starting a new campaign as them, roleplay my generals a little more and applying a few homemade ironman rules.
Casse - I'd love to play as them in a more lengthy campaign, but those pesky rebels are too strong for me. I've made several attempts, using different tactics, but they always wipe me out. Bah. And I who got a thing for their Kluddobro... :shame:
When I voted I forgot to add that I've played as Getai too. They were a lot of fun to play as, but I unfortunately got a CTD and gave up on it. Enjoyed it a lot up until that, though.
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