Australian National Anthem

[pevergreen]

The Australian National Anthem. A contraversial topic.

Some say it is out of date, and not true to today's Australia.

The Current Anthem

Australians all let us rejoice,
For we are young and free;
We've golden soil and wealth for toil,
Our home is girt by sea;
Our land abounds in Nature's gifts
Of beauty rich and rare;
In history's page, let every stage
Advance Australia fair!
In joyful strains then let us sing,
"Advance Australia fair!"
Beneath our radiant Southern Cross,
We'll toil with hearts and hands;
To make this Commonwealth of ours
Renowned of all the lands;
For those who've come across the seas
We've boundless plains to share;
With courage let us all combine
To advance Australia fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing

No one knows the second verse.
What does girt mean anyway :laugh4:
:gah: On the Anthem!

Other solutions include:
Tie me kangaroo down, sport
I still call Australia home (crap IMO)
Down Under
and of course: Waltzing Matilda
Lyrics for Down Under:

Traveling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast
And she said,

Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Cant you hear, cant you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover.

Buying bread from a man in brussels
He was six foot four and full of muscles
I said, do you speak-a my language?
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
And he said,

I come from a land down under
Where beer does flow and men chunder
Cant you hear, cant you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover.

Lying in a den in bombay
With a slack jaw, and not much to say
I said to the man, are you trying to tempt me
Because I come from the land of plenty?
And he said,

Oh! do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah yeah)
Where women glow and men plunder?
Cant you hear, cant you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover.

It's a great song, I reckon it should be the Australian National Anthem. If nothing else, we will sound cool while singing it! :laugh4:

:bow:

[sapi]

@the anthem - it's ****. Probably teh worst in the world imo - there's no real meaning in it whatsoever.

@what girt means - in that context it means 'surrounded'

@the options - all rubbish too :laugh4:

There was a mention in the paper about Vandstone writing a replacement in her spare time - if you can did up the lyrics of that im' sure it woudl be worth a laugh :)

[pevergreen]

Chasers War on Everything should make an Anthem.
They are awsome. People complain to the ABC about them making fun of the Tax Avoidance done by Kerry Packer, then they call the PM, John Howard, a pedophile, and no one complains.....:laugh4:

[sapi]

They did a brilliant stunt some years back in their magazine.

On the front cover were the words:

"John Howard doesn't listen to the Australian people...so call him at home on [number]"

It was his real phone number :laugh4:

[CountArach]

Ahhh Chaser's War, I got half the show on DVD, need to find the others.

I have no problem with our current national anthem, but that is because I don't see it as all that important. Who needs it? That said, if it changed, I want absolutely no reference to Vegemite, stereotypes, or Britain.

[pevergreen]

Yeah.

I've got the first half of the season.

Some classics there. Logies Boneheading.

Happy Birthday to Iraq

The Messages from Osama (A Jihad on Baz Lurhman!!! :laugh4:)
:yes:

[Motep]

The Anthem SUCKS!!!

[CountArach]

Yeah.

I've got the first half of the season.

Some classics there. Logies Boneheading.

Happy Birthday to Iraq

The Messages from Osama (A Jihad on Baz Lurhman!!! :laugh4:)
:yes:

I got the second half, I reckon the "Osama Bin Laden meets Jihad Jack" was one of their greatest things they ever did :laugh3:

[sapi]

Yes.

That was brilliant :laugh4:

[pevergreen]

It was.

Maybe we should have a seperate thread for the Chasers though.

Back on topic :focus: I heard Vandstone's song on the news. 5 verses? We cant even do 2 of the current one, or all of Waltzing Matilda.

:no: Senator, thats 6 years of your life wasted, even the PM was laughing at you.

[sapi]

you got a link to the text of hers?

[pevergreen]

lyrics, no
Song yes.

Thankfully, its not her singing. (http://media.news.com.au/multimedia/2007/02/070203_vanstone/index.html?skin=news)

[Warluster]

I think we make a new one, what about-


on the run, with kangaroos, and heaps of pies dancing around you!

- okay, maybe not, maybe someone else should make one.
Or maybe we should have John Howard sing a new song, i'd like to see him sing something.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

:gah:

What happened to God Save the Queen, America still has a British Queen (just she doesn't have anything to do with the place).

[Banquo's Ghost]

:gah:

What happened to God Save the Queen, America still has a British Queen (just she doesn't have anything to do with the place).

America has queens from a lot of countries, particularly in San Francisco, but only a few have anthems they sing and none are appropriate for Australian sporting occasions.

:wink3:

[InsaneApache]

Some nice suggestions. I propose 'My boomarang wont come back' or 'Someones pinched me winkles'.

Australians (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuidQTppOMk)

[Warluster]

Just an Comment, no aussie in there right mond would bow to any Queen of Brits, no matter how noble they are.

[pevergreen]

We are just too lazy to be a republic!

And we would lose the chance to smash everyone else at the Commonwealth Games :laugh3:

Bruce is not a very common name.
Blimey that was steortypical, but i'll let it slide, because it was Monty Python. :laugh4:

[naut]

I hate the anthem, it's fantastically gay.

[pevergreen]

In the words of the subbed Osama
"Shannon Noll and I are alike, we are each doing what we can to take down Western Civilisation"

I can say that can't I?

[InsaneApache]

Just an Comment, no aussie in there right mond would bow to any Queen of Brits, no matter how noble they are.

She's the Queen of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand as well as the UK.

Queen of Brits indeed. :laugh4:

[sapi]

She's the Queen of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand as well as the UK.

Queen of Brits indeed. :laugh4:
She's only our queen because we cbf modifying the constitution to make ourselves a republic :laugh4:

[pevergreen]

Its true

We are just too lazy to be a republic!

And we would lose the chance to smash everyone else at the Commonwealth Games

[InsaneApache]

On the republic thingy. Is it like the UK where if we didn't have madge as head of state we'd have President Blair instead? :inquisitive: :sweatdrop:

It took my Yank step-mom some time to see it, but she does now. :yes:

[pevergreen]

We dont need a Queen though. All the royal family does for us here in AUS is waste money. And provide scandals.

We've got royalty in Denmark. I think we can have just one royal family.

[InsaneApache]

So you'd be happy with President Howard then?

[sapi]

No.

No.

No.

and NO!

Let's keep politics out of this thread though ;)

[naut]

President Howard
Almost gave me a heart attack there.

[Fisherking]

Yes it's sappy

Land down under…..well……

Under Southern Stars…..maybe keep the first one ROFL

Sporting events…..Adapt we are the champions by Queen….ok:dizzy2:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

We dont need a Queen though. All the royal family does for us here in AUS is waste money. And provide scandals.

We've got royalty in Denmark. I think we can have just one royal family.

What money does she waste and what scandels? I mean the Royals must be practically free for you by comparison. What practical reason do you have for getting rid of the Queen etc.?

Look at the alternatives, or lack thereof.

[Pannonian]

Bruce is not a very common name.

Aren't 3 out of 5 Australians called Shane? Including the women?

[lars573]

And here I though that the Auzzie republic vote failed because it was just dump Queen and rename GG to President and not change anything else.

[Justiciar]

I dare say it looks increasingly like a lot of natives world-wide were killed for nothing. Trying to erase the shadow of Empire.. I for one am thouroughly dissapointed. Republicanism? Anti-British sentiment? A completely fictional accent? Talk of changing their designated national anthem? I hope it's nice and warm on the bandwagon. Because it's pissin' cold in it's wake. :skull:

[CountArach]

I dare say it looks increasingly like a lot of natives world-wide were killed for nothing. Trying to erase the shadow of Empire.. I for one am thouroughly dissapointed. Republicanism? Anti-British sentiment? A completely fictional accent? Talk of changing their designated national anthem? I hope it's nice and warm on the bandwagon. Because it's pissin' cold in it's wake. :skull:

Ouch... just ouch...

lol President Howard... him being PM is bad enough :wink:

[pevergreen]

He better quit..

The Politicians are very bad in Aus.

In Federal Parliment, we Have to keep the Coalition in (Liberal, National Parties) because Labor is incompetant.

In Queensland, we have to keep Labor in because the Lib's and National's cant agree...even after at least 7 years of losing.

Bah!

The Royals come down every so often, costing around 3-4 million per visit...

All the queen does is take flowers from little girls. That her job! (Chasers :beam:)

:bow:

[monkian]

Land down under - Men at work

Surely most obvious choice ? :2thumbsup:

[Ignoramus]

What's wrong with God Save the Queen? After all, if it wasn't for the British colonising Australia, most of us would still be in Mother England anyway, or in America.

[Warluster]

lol, reasons explained earlier, it isn't about how England and all contacted Aus earlier, its just, we are not british anymore, we're Australian, and personally, we don't really care for the so good "British Queen'
We dont give a damm for England anymore

[pevergreen]

Did we ever?

Wow, your a QLD Warluster? That makes me you and sapi!

@ Monkian: :bow: Truly that is wise.

[Justiciar]

lol, reasons explained earlier, it isn't about how England and all contacted Aus earlier, its just, we are not british anymore, we're Australian, and personally, we don't really care for the so good "British Queen'
We dont give a damm for England anymore
Personally.. We? Something of a contradiction there, old boy. I can appreciate the point though. Australia isn't part of the UK, and hasn't been for some time. Though I think calling for the severance of all ties is unnecessary. Denial of one's heritage is an unhealthy road to tread. Republicanism on the other hand is all fair enough. If somewhat unorigional. :laugh4:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

lol, reasons explained earlier, it isn't about how England and all contacted Aus earlier, its just, we are not british anymore, we're Australian, and personally, we don't really care for the so good "British Queen'
We dont give a damm for England anymore

1. Britain and England are two very seperate things, they are not interchangable, thats an American mistake.

2. She's no more our Queen that yours, she's German, 100% continental, 0% British, or near enough. We have her because:

A: It makes the Americans jealous.

B: Republics suck pretty badly, look at France or America.

C: Presidents are expensive, the Queen is cheap by comparison.

Question: How much of your taxes go to supporting the Queen in Buckingham Palace?

[Banquo's Ghost]

C: Presidents are expensive, the Queen is cheap by comparison.

Egad sir, how dare ye call Her Majesty cheap? I'll have you know those hats are remarkably expensive, despite their look.

I shall have to ask you to step outside.

:duel:

:wink:

[Papewaio]

Did we ever?

Wow, your a QLD Warluster? That makes me you and sapi!

@ Monkian: :bow: Truly that is wise.

And barocca too.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Why not:

President Howard, only give him the purview that Chavez enjoys in Venez.


For you Englanders:

Set up QE2 as a true C-in-C on the military side, that way you can have Chas or Billy to follow "Over the Top" as a War leader.



...Just having fun.

[InsaneApache]

I would be somewhat surprised if Her Majesty was not head of Her Majesties Armed Forces. The clues in the name. The Royal Air Force, the Royal Navy.....


"I…..swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page4698.asp

Back OT. Kylies "I can't get you outta my head (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5mUqELVzA)" might be a good one. Very catchy. :yes:

Nah, nah, nah.....nah, nah, nan, nan ,nah......:whip:

[Fisherking]

2. She's no more our Queen that yours, she's German, 100% continental, 0% British, or near enough.


Oh my! The shame of it all! But her mommy were a Scot weren't she?~:mecry:

[sapi]

And here I though that the Auzzie republic vote failed because it was just dump Queen and rename GG to President and not change anything else.
The only reason the vote failed was that it was worded (i'll get on to that * howard later :laugh4: ) so that it was so restrictive that it couldnt' but fail (simply, we voted on whether aus. should become a republic following x rules, not whether we should become a republic full stop). Far more than half the country want a republic as it stands today.


And barocca too....pretty soon we'll take over :idea2:


He better quit..

The Politicians are very bad in Aus.

In Federal Parliment, we Have to keep the Coalition in (Liberal, National Parties) because Labor is incompetant.
I'd trust rudd far more than howard, thank you very much.

How long has hicks been in guantamano again?

And how many other countries still have citizens there?

A big :thumbsdown: for howard on that count



In Queensland, we have to keep Labor in because the Lib's and National's cant agree...even after at least 7 years of losing.

Bah!
So true - look at the way they've managed the water crisis (wouldn't be a damn crisis if they weren't incompetent) and then look at how easily they were voted back in.

Opposition?

Opposition?

Are you there? :beam:

[pevergreen]

At least Beazly is gone.

In a poll designed to make Beazly win, he still lost

Questions such as:

Who would make a better Prime Minister; Beazly or Adolf Hitler

Answer: Probably Kim, Adolfs dead.

Who would make a better Prime Minister; Beazly or a plank of wood

Answer: The plank of wood gets walked over a bit, but beazly has a lot of practice

Who would make a better Prime Minister; Beazly or a dog turd

Answer: They pretty much filled with the same stuff.

But the fact remains, we have no choice of who to have in government....its sad.

Queensland is out of water in about 8 months..scary

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Egad sir, how dare ye call Her Majesty cheap? I'll have you know those hats are remarkably expensive, despite their look.

I shall have to ask you to step outside.

:duel:

:wink:

Epee or Sabre? I prefer the point weapon myself.

I still have yet to see an actual arguement for Australian Republicanism.

[Incongruous]

You guy's could just take Helen...:idea2: ?...:eeeek:

[InsaneApache]

of Troy? :inquisitive:

[Incongruous]

Of Wellington.
Get those dental surgeons ready!:yes:
I have bought her a ticket!:whip:

[El Diablo]

Bopa - if you are looking for a contribution I will chip in.

"Ahh Helen, your taxi is here to take you to the airport."
"What? I never ordered a taxi. When am I flying to?"
"Australia"
"Who is paying for that"
"The tax payer - thay have all chipped in PERSONALLY"

As for the Aussie anthem - "Stairway to heaven" the Rolf Harris wobbleboard edition would be fab. I could imagine that intimidating the All Blacks.

[Papewaio]

I think the Australian Commonwealth should join with New Zealand and become the Republic of New Zealand comprised of the North, South and West Island. :laugh4:

[CountArach]

Wow, your a QLD Warluster? That makes me you and sapi!

Oh noes! I'm outnumbered! Stay north of the border! :wink:


I'd trust rudd far more than howard, thank you very much.

How long has hicks been in guantamano again?

And how many other countries still have citizens there?

A big for howard on that count

I can't vote... but I like to think my opinion still counts, and I completely agree with you on all counts here. But that said I am a socialist born and bred... so voting Liberals just isn't an option.


I still have yet to see an actual arguement for Australian Republicanism.

Apart from the fact that it is just symbolic of the fact that we are no longer tied to the English Monarchy?

[Warluster]

yeah thats right, i am an Queenslander through and through, we beat NSW at State of orgion, Rugby, cricket, Rugby Union , soccer, basketball , golf....
anyway, we beat NSW! WHHHHOOOAAAA!!!!!!!

[pevergreen]

YESSSS!

NSW sucks :laugh4:!!1

[CountArach]

:'(

My state sucks...

[Banquo's Ghost]

Let's not get carried away. Inter-state bashing is as unhelpful as international bashing.

Especially if it degenerates into spam. :beadyeyes2:

[sapi]

I think the Australian Commonwealth should join with New Zealand and become the Republic of New Zealand comprised of the North, South and West Island. :laugh4:
I've heard it before, but :thumbsup:

[Justiciar]

Apart from the fact that it is just symbolic of the fact that we are no longer tied to the English Monarchy?
Or you're just trying to copy Americans, again. Don't think for a second that we don't know your game! ~;)

[Incongruous]

hmmm the west island aye?...That means you have to give back Crowded House.

[CountArach]

Or you're just trying to copy Americans, again. Don't think for a second that we don't know your game! ~;)

*Insert violent revolution to overthrow our British oppressors* :wink:

[pevergreen]

Let's not get carried away. Inter-state bashing is as unhelpful as international bashing.

But its true!
(this is australian jokes about the other states)

Sydney is overpriced and a bit w****
NT is a lazy territory, with lots of lazy abbos
WA is too far away to care
SA is axe murderers
Vic is stuffed up
Tasmania is like Alabama
ACT is firecrackers and pr0no
QLD are stupid retards that hate change (i am a QLD its true..:no:)

Mod that out if you think its innapropriate.

[CountArach]

Yeah.. I admit to the Sydney-siders... we are a bit up-ourselves, but that is only because of our all-encompassing superiority.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Apart from the fact that it is just symbolic of the fact that we are no longer tied to the English Monarchy?

Again, not English for 941 years. This would also be a break with Britain in general. Do you really hate us that much? Because this is ultimately what it comes down to. The Queen is symbolic of a shared identity, do the Australians no longer wish to play rugby or cricket, drink tea, drive on the left and have all the letters in their words?

[Justiciar]

*Insert violent revolution to overthrow our British oppressors* :wink:
Gadzooks! The uncouth colonials are rebelling? Such is unheard of! :dizzy2:

[El Diablo]

Posted by Papewaio
"I think the Australian Commonwealth should join with New Zealand and become the Republic of New Zealand comprised of the North, South and West Island."


:idea2: Sounds good. You bring the BBQ I will bring the lamb steaks. Ha ha.

If that was the case then I would have to add NZ to the descriptions for the "United States of Australasia"

NZ - Huge chips on their shoulders and a bit of "cricket" envy.

Some of the garbage that our press puts out as Aussie bashing makes me ashamed of the whole ANZAC co-operation thing we have going.

Mind you - if you touch our Bledisloe Cup again it will BE WAR!!!

[Papewaio]

Kia Ora...

[Gregoshi]

The thread starts out complaining that the National Anthem is revolting and soon after that the whole country is revolting...:inquisitive: Eh, you know what I mean.

Just have the English throw one of your songwriters in prison and then shoot off some fireworks outside his cell. I'm sure he'll write one smashing National Anthem for you - it worked for us.

[AntiochusIII]

The thread starts out complaining that the National Anthem is revolting and soon after that the whole country is revolting...:inquisitive: Eh, you know what I mean. :laugh4: Awesome as always, ja?

Just have the English throw one of your songwriters in prison and then shoot off some fireworks outside his cell. I'm sure he'll write one smashing National Anthem for you - it worked for us.I dunno. The Star Spangled Banner (or whatever it is) is pretty boring. It's like, they just choose a random singer and he/she then howls like Celine Dion. Celine Dion from a drinking song; that's rather dysfunctional.

We should go with the times and make New England hip hop National Anthem!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Not to mention the American national anthem, is, well, stolen. So is Hail to the Chief, which is completely British. Written by a Scot for a play IRRC.

[InsaneApache]

Sousa? :inquisitive:

Anyway "My country 'tis of thee", was the Yanks anthem until the early 20th century. IIRC. :hide:


"The Star-Spangled Banner" was taken from "To Anacreon in Heaven" by the otherwise unknown Englishman John Stafford Smith;

from wiki.

[Gregoshi]

Not to mention the American national anthem, is, well, stolen. So is Hail to the Chief, which is completely British. Written by a Scot for a play IRRC.
Well, after stealing the whole country from you, what are a few musical notes between friends? :laugh4:

Anyway, the discussion was about Australia's quest for its musical identity. We are deviating from this noteworthy search.

[InsaneApache]

In view of the recidivist tendacies of our Aussie cousins....

I fought the law (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjHrI93vVKM)

:whip: :sweatdrop: :laugh4:

[KukriKhan]

The best anthems were either Welsh pub songs, or songs by Welshmen. I think a slightly re-worded Tom Jones song might do the trick:

"My, my my Aus-tral-ya
Why, why why Aus-tral-ya
So
before
the Englishmen break down the door,

Believe me Australia, we just couldn't take anymore"

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Well, after stealing the whole country from you, what are a few musical notes between friends? :laugh4:

Anyway, the discussion was about Australia's quest for its musical identity. We are deviating from this noteworthy search.

But we're not friends. America still wants to overthrow the monarchy and if we could find enough soldiers we'd invade again.:beam:

I'm sure no one would mind if Australia just adopted our Monarch's Anthem, it's not really specific to these shores. You just need to change the Scots to Kiwi's and you're done.

Speaking of which, isn't it about time we actually had a national anthem?

[El Diablo]

We Kiwis thought about invading Aussie but when we checked it out we had enough sand :laugh4:

But on the theme of national anthems then our one (God Defend New Zealand) - or as the Aussies hear it "Gid difind noo zilind" has the great line

"Guard Pacifics triple Star"

Ummm not sure about that.
1. There are four stars on our flag (as compared to Aussie's 6)
2. If they are talking about NZ as a hotel then it would probably be a four to five star :laugh4:

[Incongruous]

I still reckon NZ's should be GOD DEFEND HELEN!

[Papewaio]

"Guard Pacifics triple Star"


I always thought that it meant the 3 main islands.

Wiki states the following:

Bracken’s national anthem asks god to "guard Pacific’s triple star" and some historians have reasoned that refers to Te Kooti's flag and is his oblique support for Māori. It has also been suggested that "Pacific’s triple star" simply means the three main islands of New Zealand -- Northern, Middle and Stewart as they were referred to at that time. Bracken never explained what he meant, so there is no definitive clarification today.

[Warluster]

2. If they are talking about NZ as a hotel then it would probably be a four to five star :laugh4:

lol, so thats why AUs and N.Z have stars, what does that rate America, it must be a pretty good hotel:grin3: A 52 star hotel?

[CountArach]

lol, so thats why AUs and N.Z have stars, what does that rate America, it must be a pretty good hotel:grin3: A 52 star hotel?

Actually that's 52% :wink:

[Claudius the God]

I don't appreciate the australian national anthem much, it's just too dull...

the only time I truly enjoyed the anthem was when it was sung to the tune of 'working class man' in the melbourne comedy festival (?) because that was rather funny...


on advance australia fair:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair

there is a very controversial 'christian' verse that I had not heard about until just now...




I prefer this song instead:...
http://www.mountainman.com.au/reconciliation/iamanozi.htm

this chorus being widely known:

We are one, but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come
We share a dream and sing with one voice:
I am, you are, we are Australian
I am, you are, we are Australian.

this has much more feeling to it than 'advance australia fair'