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Judge a RAF sympathiser or something like ours? 5 x times life in prison for extreme leftist terrorism and numerous politically motivated murders, and she gets released after only 24 years? Seems like the others were dealt with more effectivily.
nuts :wall:
Banquo's Ghost
02-12-2007, 12:39
I know the RAF are a bunch of overpaid garage mechanics but it's a bit harsh calling them terrorists.
Oh, you mean the Red Army Faction... :wink3: Yes, seems a bit premature to consider letting her out.
English assassin
02-12-2007, 13:09
I know the RAF are a bunch of overpaid garage mechanics but it's a bit harsh calling them terrorists.
Oh, you mean the Red Army Faction... :wink3: Yes, seems a bit premature to consider letting her out.
Heh, there's a chap used to be in the army works with me, he always refers to them as the tea and medals brigade. As in "back to base in time for tea and medals". Mind you he was in signals intelligence so as far as I have worked out his service career was one long holiday in Cyprus.
As for baader meinhof, doobeedoo, its not like 24 years in jail is a slap on the wrist?
I always thought RAF stood for Royal Air Force. You should clarify...
I always thought RAF stood for Royal Air Force. You should clarify...
Or you could click on the link. RAF is 'Rote Armee Fraktion', german Mao-jugends who have been very very naughty.
Banquo's Ghost
02-12-2007, 13:37
Apparently, the decision has been made (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6352903.stm) and she's going free.
Not a good idea. When no remorse is shown, particularly by such cold-blooded killers, they need to be left to rot.
She didn't rot very well, used to be not bad
http://andrewhammel.typepad.com/german_joys/images/mohnhaupt.jpg
Bit too heavy on the jaws, she could chew my head off
Crazed Rabbit
02-12-2007, 21:43
So - no remorse or apologies, and she gets off after 24 years for five life sentences?!? That'd make a life sentence equal to slightly less than 5 years.
:dizzy2:
Crazed Rabbit
Tribesman
02-12-2007, 22:31
So - no remorse or apologies, and she gets off after 24 years for five life sentences?!? That'd make a life sentence equal to slightly less than 5 years.
Nope that makes it 24 years , the mandatory minimum as set out at the time of the trial, unless of course you assume in your figures that the 5 sentances were consecutive instead of concurrent .
Not a good idea. When no remorse is shown, particularly by such cold-blooded killers, they need to be left to rot.
Hey Banquo , does it remind you of another deal ?
An example of which would be someone with lots of CONSECUTIVE life sentances amounting to over 600 years in prison getting out under licence after a hell of a lot less than the 24 years in this case (though he is back in prison again for breaking the terms of his licence ).
So considering that the German government offered the early release deal to the RAF 15 years ago isn't it acceptable that since the RAF have held up their end of the bargain the German government holds up theirs . You should note that the British and Irish governments in their deals didn't insist on the judges minimum sentances conditions being fulfilled before release .
Speer had 20 years. Not to speak of all the other Nazi Generals, nah 24 years is more then enough, do you really think she will start the RAF again?
Banquo's Ghost
02-13-2007, 09:23
Hey Banquo , does it remind you of another deal ?
Yes, it did, even as I wrote my post.
So considering that the German government offered the early release deal to the RAF 15 years ago isn't it acceptable that since the RAF have held up their end of the bargain the German government holds up theirs . You should note that the British and Irish governments in their deals didn't insist on the judges minimum sentances conditions being fulfilled before release .
I didn't know about the deal you describe. In which case, it's galling, but necessary.
Just like the other deal.
Hey, first off, we also have a right to letting our own nutters roam our own streets, we are a democracy after all.
And then, think about it, she has been in prison for 24 years. 21 years ago I was a collection of cells and until now I turned into a young, good-looking, intelligent man.:sweatdrop: If that doesn't prove how people can change over the years, I don't know.:beam:
Maybe she is just too shy to apologize.~:rolleyes:
Well, really, she is pretty old now and if they had some deal, they should stick to it.
Pannonian
02-13-2007, 11:20
Hey Banquo , does it remind you of another deal ?
An example of which would be someone with lots of CONSECUTIVE life sentances amounting to over 600 years in prison getting out under licence after a hell of a lot less than the 24 years in this case (though he is back in prison again for breaking the terms of his licence ).
So considering that the German government offered the early release deal to the RAF 15 years ago isn't it acceptable that since the RAF have held up their end of the bargain the German government holds up theirs . You should note that the British and Irish governments in their deals didn't insist on the judges minimum sentances conditions being fulfilled before release .
Which IRA case are you talking about?
A total and utter retard called Michael Stone, who was jailed fo 600 years for murdering people at an IRA Funeral.
He got out early because of the Good Friday Agreement. He is in jail now because he launched an pathetic terror attack against the LA in Stormont.
The fat edit(gobdaw) hobbled his way a mile up the Stormont Avenue, armed with an imitation Beretta 92FS pistol, a knife, a "viable" bomb and a spray can. Somehow he manages to scrawl the unfinished slogan,
"Sinn Féin IRA mur "(derers)
before charging in the front door. The amadan then gets his fat head stuck in the revolving door by security who disarm him and then arrest him.
The best part is the claim made by Stone's defence lawyer Arthur Harvey, QC, who claimed on his behalf that the Stormont incident was not intended to endanger the life of anyone. "It was, in fact, a piece of performance art replicating a terrorist attack."
If it wasn't so funny it would be tragic, or is that the other way round?
Strangely no-one sees the wouldbe (piss)artist approaching Stormont. Nobody.
This man is a lunatic. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Stone_(loyalist_paramilitary)#Role_in_Northern_Ireland_troubles)
Many Republicans believe that, not only was Stone saved by the RUC, but he was actually driven to Milltown cemetry by them too. Of course no-one ever believed anything Republicans said about Ruc collusion, not until now at least.
Stig - nazi generals became released because most Germans supported nazism and they were national heroes into Germany that time.
Furthermore German courts have never been "denazified" and after war there were same people like into 1942. So German judges were always happy to release nazis.
Similar situation is into Japan until this day.
Anyway releasing after 24 years is nothing special.
Into Sweden you can be released after 12 years if you had life sentence.
Earlier it was ..... 8 years.
Papewaio
02-14-2007, 01:27
Hmm considering the laws against Holocaust denial and other anti-nazi laws, I think the accuracy of your statement is suspect to say the least.
Krook I don't need Polish incorrect nationalism now
Krook I don't need Polish incorrect nationalism now
Psshht.
*watches at his collection of Nazi-hero posters on the wall*~:rolleyes:
Stig - nazi generals became released because most Germans supported nazism and they were national heroes into Germany that time.
Furthermore German courts have never been "denazified" and after war there were same people like into 1942. So German judges were always happy to release nazis.
Similar situation is into Japan until this day.
Anyway releasing after 24 years is nothing special.
Into Sweden you can be released after 12 years if you had life sentence.
Earlier it was ..... 8 years.
The nazis officials were judged by allied courts in nuremberg and kept in jail by the allied armies. Nothing to do with german judges.
The nazis officials were judged by allied courts in nuremberg and kept in jail by the allied armies. Nothing to do with german judges.
It is when you're Polish and biased :bounce:
Stig - nazi generals became released because most Germans supported nazism and they were national heroes into Germany that time.
Uhm, yes. Krook on germany, why not stick to plumbing :daisy:.
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