the magnificent magically appearing generals!

[pat the magnificent]

ok, so i'm playing as milan on a hv/hv game and i've got Turkey by their proverbial Persian scrotum.

but i've noticed the damnedest thing happening. he (as in the turks) has this little old army all by it's lonesome AT least a couple turns away from any of his reinforcements or settlements. i've got a spy near by him and a 10 skill assassin. every turn i assassinate his general and some how he ALWAYS has another general leading the stack the next turn.

this has gone on for 4 turns so far. i've also got a few other 10 skill assassins stalking his territory shanking any other family members/generals/imams of his i can find.

i'm using LTC 2.1, but that doesn't explain anything. i know you can use castles to create generals, but only like once every 3 or 4 turns. and regardless he's too far away from any of his castles to get a new general there that quickly.

is this just something that happens when the campaign difficulty is set to HV? if so, what other retarded things are going on that i don't know about? how am i supposed to implement well thought out strategies when the AI is using a different set of logic defying rules?

[sapi]

The AI can do that :thumbsdown:

It makes removing crusading armies a pain :(

[Temujin]

Well, you can do that too! If a faction has a significantly smaller amount of generals (really, family members), than cities, they will get the option of adopting a captain or other leader every turn. If they only have one stack of troops, there's only one place this individual can turn up.

If you want to kill a faction off by assassination, you'll need to use several assassins and spies, locate all living family members, and take them all out in a single turn. If you fail, the survivors will adopt more people into the family to fill out their family tree, and you'll have to do it all over next turn.

[Quillan]

Temujin has hit the nail on the head there. Anytime the general to province ratio falls below a certain point, the faction starts getting an adoption opportunity every turn. It's always a captain leading an army in my experience, so that's where it's coming from.

[dumas]

The good thing is, the "magically appearing generals" are almost always easy to kill again, like 95% chance for your maxed assasin. So camp one assasin there to keep killing the new "spawn" and take the others to hunt for the remaining ones.

[sapi]

@Temujin - the AI is not adopting generals.

Adopted family members appear in the same city/stack as their sponsor, but the AI can 'regenerate' stacks that have no family members in them.

[Carl]

Yep, your Generals Cannot EVER appear in stacks at all, even if the sponser is in the stack, they'll turn up in a city somwhere even if the last familly member is in the feild. The AI is the ONLY thing that can get them to appear in stacks. I'm not sure how or why, but it looks like the AI is excempt from a few of the rules the player has to follow.

[Praetorian308]

ok, so i'm playing as milan on a hv/hv game and i've got Turkey by their proverbial Persian scrotum.

but i've noticed the damnedest thing happening. he (as in the turks) has this little old army all by it's lonesome AT least a couple turns away from any of his reinforcements or settlements. i've got a spy near by him and a 10 skill assassin. every turn i assassinate his general and some how he ALWAYS has another general leading the stack the next turn.

this has gone on for 4 turns so far. i've also got a few other 10 skill assassins stalking his territory shanking any other family members/generals/imams of his i can find.

i'm using LTC 2.1, but that doesn't explain anything. i know you can use castles to create generals, but only like once every 3 or 4 turns. and regardless he's too far away from any of his castles to get a new general there that quickly.

is this just something that happens when the campaign difficulty is set to HV? if so, what other retarded things are going on that i don't know about? how am i supposed to implement well thought out strategies when the AI is using a different set of logic defying rules?

I don't know about HV, but perhaps in VH.

[TevashSzat]

Are you or the enemy fighting any battles if that is the case, they may be getting the man of the hour thing since they have so little generals compared to their number of provinces.

[pat the magnificent]

well, i just decided to wipe his stupid army out, so problem solved i guess.

and no, i was fighting the stack, just killing it's general(s).


and HV stands for Hard, Very hard... :embarassed: or no... no it doesn't...