Japanese Friends Here ?

[LeftEyeNine]

Above our very friendly nippon-o-phile members here, I suddenly wanted to know if we have any native or immigrant Japanese friends here ? I just would like to get to know if any, since my interest in Japanese culture has grown even more. (hey hey, this not really about Asian girls :sweatdrop:)

[Hosakawa Tito]

Just don't follow Vuk's advice and you'll do just fine.:saint:

[LeftEyeNine]

Just don't follow Vuk's advice and you'll do just fine.:saint:

Um I really don't want to know what they are for the moment :shrug:

[Caius]

Um I really don't want to know what they are for the moment :shrug:
Check teh Backroom

[LeftEyeNine]

Check teh Backroom

I'm not in the mood to travel to Demons Realm really.

[Shaka_Khan]

I googled this -> Japan Forum (http://www.jref.com/forum/)

You could invite people from there somehow.

[LeftEyeNine]

Thanks there, Shaka. I'll look into it, though I'm still looking for Orgahly Japanese fellows too.

[Kanamori]

I could pretend to be Japanese, and we could just pretend that you're getting where you want to go.:clown:

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Thanks there, Shaka. I'll look into it, though I'm still looking for Orgahly Japanese fellows too.Babe thread. otherwise there's a good chance we have none.

[Shaka_Khan]

Togakure is Japanese-American, but I don't see him posting here anymore.

[pevergreen]

As a favour to you, I'll get my jap friend to sign up here. Dont know why he hasnt...he owns me in RTW and would play M2TW if is computer could run it.

Incoming: Udai Katami!

[IrishArmenian]

The Nipponophiles really outnumber the actually Japanese here. At least you'll always have the babe thread and STW.

[LeftEyeNine]

As a favour to you, I'll get my jap friend to sign up here. Dont know why he hasnt...he owns me in RTW and would play M2TW if is computer could run it.

Incoming: Udai Katami!

Now that's a w00t ! He's already welcome ! :bow:

[pevergreen]

He should be registered sometime tonight.

When he comes online that is :sweatdrop:

He will probably be under the name of Beefy or Beefy187

[master of the puppets]

i'm not (too) racist against the japanese but i have to ask, why is everyone but me so fascinated by them. so many americans and others honestly seem to praise and worship everything japanese and when i see this all i can think to say is "so what." they are just another nation that up until the the 1800s played almost no part in world politics. they did not conquer vast plots of land, they did not leave behind vast empires or life altering inventions, they did not shape the far east or world religion. the only real advances they got that they did not steal from china were there swords and there ideals of warriorship, but even that was far from new, Sparta, Rome, Aztecs each believed it was a "sweet and seemly thing to die for ones country". and there are so many things about them that that are hardly praise worthy in there history that the japenese-freaks seem to always overlook (ever read The Rape of Nanking?).

not to be racist towards our japanese orgahs and the race as a whole but i don't see why i should care about them like i do any other culture.

[LeftEyeNine]

They have a CULTURE. That's enough to be a distinctive nation. And if you feel good with it, you like it that's all.

[Husar]

Well, I'm not a big fan of Japan either but if people like Mangas and all that stuff, well, it's not my business, some of them I like as well.
What makes a nation great depends on what you personally rate high, the greeks and romans weren't nice people either(slavery etc.) but like I said, it depends on what you base your opinion on.

[pevergreen]

Here we go!

As he is only a Junior Member: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22901

That's Him. :bow:

[Tachikaze]

I don't know how many people think Japan is "great". I study the country extensively and have stayed there five times, but I don't think it's great. I think there are serious problems in Japan.

That doesn't mean it isn't fascinating. For an American, the Japanese are in some ways almost opposite in culture. In other ways, however, they share with US culture some aspects no other nation has. It is an interesting mixture of traditional and modern. They have an ancient animistic religion and robot dogs in the same small package. Some Japanese worship nature while others are obsessed with cyberspace high technology.

They are pacifistic nation today, but are famous for their bloody past. They probably have the largest middle class, per capita, of any nation in the world, with a high degree of equality. They have an extremely crowded society, while the crime rate is still very low.

They have perhaps the most complex writing system in the world. Their school children learn Chinese characters, two native Japanese scripts, and two Roman alphabets.

In spite of having 150 million people living in a land the size of California, they have set aside a surprising amount of forest land.

They have a huge variety of foods for such a small place. I've been eating there for years and still hear names of foods I've never known existed.

Etc.

[spmetla]

While not being being Japanese much less Asian, I consider myself a friend of the Japanese. Being in Hawaii kind of makes this necessary seeing as there is such a large Japanese population here.

But then we also have the reminders of their violent past here as well such as Pearl Harbor and the end of that with the USS Missouri.

Well whatever, I respect them but am certainly not a worshiper of all things Japanese.

[Moros]

They have a CULTURE.
:laugh4:
That they do, Kenshin would say.

Now seriously why would American's be intersted in Japanese culture. Simple, own culture most of the time isn't as interesting as an "exotic" foriegn one. Also I think the importance of values and respect. Something that most Western countries are just missing.

[Papewaio]

I'm watching Summer Snow at the moment... Japanese drama. The snow being plankton. Wasabi likes a lot of Japanese things, a lot of Taiwanese do.

I'm more into the food and the precision with which they do things. I think it is the contrasts that makes the culture interesting. That and knee length socks. :beam:

[Avicenna]

Strange, that. You'd imagine that they didn't like them for invading and taking over. The people in the PRC sure don't like Japan.

[caravel]

I know little about Japan or it's people, but from the little I've read and seen, I cannot help but admire many aspects of their very distinctive culture.

[Don Corleone]

I believe America has a strong affinity for Japanese culture because we're familiar with it. After a 4 year 'winner-take-all' war with them, we had occupation forces there for a long time and even to this day have forces stationed there. Therefore, we've had exposure to them. China on the other hand has been a relatively closed society to us. We don't have large amounts of cultural exchange with China and therefore, the average American hasn't had anywhere near as much exposure to Chinese culture as Japanese.

There's also the American attraction to the seeming contradiction inherent in Japanese culture: you had a society that fanatically pursued Bushido, but the most violent warriors still wrote poetry and engaged in elaborate tea ceremonies. Chinese culture on the other hand is all about unity and harmony. Contrasts and conflicts are downplayed. As American culture itself is one of extreme contrasts, it makes sense that we'd be more attacted to a culture with syncopation as opposed to harmony.

That being said, I'm a big fan of both cultures. Japense cuisine is good, but I have never experienced anything even remotely approaching real Chinese food served at restaurants within the PRC. Absolutely beyond compare, and as much as I love Italian and French cuisine, nothing in Europe approaches the top-level of Chinese cuisine. Chinese chefs, IMHO, are truly the greatest in the world. I also like the communal emphasis of Chinese culture. The lazy-susan at the dinner table to enable family style dining says it all. You could never get away with that in America... we'd all be accusing each other of taking all the 'good stuff'. :yes:

[Tachikaze]

I believe America has a strong affinity for Japanese culture because we're familiar with it. After a 4 year 'winner-take-all' war with them, we had occupation forces there for a long time and even to this day have forces stationed there. Therefore, we've had exposure to them. China on the other hand has been a relatively closed society to us. We don't have large amounts of cultural exchange with China and therefore, the average American hasn't had anywhere near as much exposure to Chinese culture as Japanese.

There's also the American attraction to the seeming contradiction inherent in Japanese culture: you had a society that fanatically pursued Bushido, but the most violent warriors still wrote poetry and engaged in elaborate tea ceremonies. Chinese culture on the other hand is all about unity and harmony. Contrasts and conflicts are downplayed. As American culture itself is one of extreme contrasts, it makes sense that we'd be more attacted to a culture with syncopation as opposed to harmony.
Wow, two full paragraphs in which The Don and I are in complete agreement. I couldn't have said it better.

[TevashSzat]

Well...I'm Chinese. I guess that is kinda close to Japanese seeing as how they originated from China

[LeftEyeNine]

There are various hypothesis about where the Japanese originated from. Sure they were immigrants from the continent, from around China, and have a language with words adopted from the Chinese; but the genetic background of the Japanese is still in doubt.

P.S. Ah anyways, you're welcome, Xdeathfire :bow:

[Avicenna]

A scientific study (Newscientist No.2586) comparing Chinese, European and Japanese genes (4192 each in WBCs) shows that the Euros and Japanese express 756 which are significantly different, the Chinese and Euros 939 and the Chinese and Japanese only 27.

Surely that does indicate Chinese emigraton to Japan? It's also no coincidence that Qin Shi Huang's missing ship of hundreds of Chinese to search for a pill for immortality in the East did its disappearing act just when the Yaoyi people are said to have reached Japan?

[Conqueror]

Surely that does indicate Chinese emigraton to Japan?

Based on your brief description of the article: no it does not. All it indicates is that the Japanese don't share ancestry with Europeans. But you don't really need to read a scientific article to figure that out, now do you? If they actually included such peoples as Koreans, indigenous peoples of Russia east of Urals, specific ethnic groups within China, peoples from Central Asia, etc. then that might actually give some indication to the origins of the Japanese.

[Avicenna]

At over 2000 years ago, 27 genes is very little difference. Many mutations would have occurred, and quite frankly I'd expect more from that period of isolation Japan experienced.

[Papewaio]

Strange, that. You'd imagine that they didn't like them for invading and taking over. The people in the PRC sure don't like Japan.

Same way the Japanese feel about Americans in general.

Its generally not the invasion that sets the tone for future relations. Its the occupation of the country. Be a nice invader that restores infrastructure and you will get due kudos...

[Tachikaze]

Based on your brief description of the article: no it does not. All it indicates is that the Japanese don't share ancestry with Europeans. But you don't really need to read a scientific article to figure that out, now do you? If they actually included such peoples as Koreans, indigenous peoples of Russia east of Urals, specific ethnic groups within China, peoples from Central Asia, etc. then that might actually give some indication to the origins of the Japanese.
I agree with this. There have been proposals about the connection between the people of the Philippines and Japan as well. That may explain why the Japanese seem so physically distinct from their Asian neighbors.

[Tachikaze]

A scientific study (Newscientist No.2586) comparing Chinese, European and Japanese genes (4192 each in WBCs) shows that the Euros and Japanese express 756 which are significantly different, the Chinese and Euros 939 and the Chinese and Japanese only 27.
It shows the Chinese came from Japan.

[Avicenna]

Thanks a lot for that helpful comment [/sarcasm]

[Pindar]

Above our very friendly nippon-o-phile members here, I suddenly wanted to know if we have any native or immigrant Japanese friends here ? I just would like to get to know if any, since my interest in Japanese culture has grown even more. (hey hey, this not really about Asian girls :sweatdrop:)


My wife is Japanese and I worked there for 8 years. Does that count?

[Papewaio]

I didn't even realise you were married...

[Pindar]

I didn't even realise you were married...

Yup, I'm married to a princess of the Isle of the Sun whose blood traces back through the mists of time to the Fujiwara of old.

As I recall your bride hails from the beautiful Island to the South that rests in the shadow of the Dragon.

[LeftEyeNine]

My wife is Japanese and I worked there or 8 years. Does that count?

If you accept GAH!ly retards, why not?

Whatevar, happy to know that, I wish for a peaceful lifetime companionship to you two.

[Pindar]

If you accept GAH!ly retards, why not?

I'm conservative. That means I'm naturally accepting and full of love for all, :hippie: even those confused by the inanity and retarding aspects of gah.



Whatevar, happy to know that, I wish for a peaceful lifetime companionship to you two.

You're a Turk? If so, then you would have an easier time than others (i.e. native English speakers) in learning Japanese. It's a very interesting tongue. :karate: