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Krusader
02-18-2007, 13:09
Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans.


https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4028/081announcementat0.jpg


EB v0.81 is here! We originally said you could expect it "soon", but then we hit a snag which took time to resolve and then the Christmas season arrived and most EB members took some well-deserved time off. In January we resumed full work on 0.81 and hit some more snags, including several nasty CTDs. And to top it all off, our FTP server suffered some downtime, making it harder to coordinate the updates as we had to find other avenues for sharing modified files between us. But now the Patch is here, so rejoice and we are certain you will enjoy it!!

An interesting sidenote: As therother compiled the v.81 installer, he counted how many files EB had added or changed in RTW v1.5 and the number is: 19,765
Impressive eh!

Download options:

Download the Patch if you already have EB v0.8 installed.
v0.81 Patch torrent (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=10)
v0.81 Patch EB FTP (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=11)
v0.81 Patch ORG (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=15)
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v0.81 Full Installer torrent (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=13)
v0.81 Full Installer EB FTP (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=12)
v0.81 Full Installer ORG (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=14)

Be sure to close all unnecessary applications before running the installer. If the installer crashes during the installation process, it is almost certainly a memory problem caused by too many open applications.

If your browser won't download the patch, please use a torrent or refer to this post for help (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=79603)

Past experience indicates that many of the reported problems with EB involve bad installations of either RTW or EB. Accordingly, if you follow these instructions EXACTLY, you should not have a problem:

1. Install RTW 1.0
2. Update RTW with the v1.3 Patch
3. Update RTW with the v1.5 Patch
4. Load a game to make sure RTW is working (i.e. it should list the version number on one of the screens - see "Note" below for details), and after confirming the version number, shut it down
5. Copy this entire folder to a new directory and rename THE COPY (for example, instead of "Rome: Total War" it would be "EB")
6. Install EB v.80 into the new "EB" directory
7. Load a game to make sure EB v.80 is working (you MUST load the game using the desktop shortcut created during the installation process), and after confirming that it loads properly, shut it down
8. Install the EB v.81 Patch into the new "EB" directory
9. Go to "\Rome - Total War\EB\Data\world\maps\base" and delete the file map.rwm. This is to make sure EB uses the latest map changes.
10. Load a game using the EBv81 desktop shortcut created during the installation process (The EB Menu screen will have "ver. 0.8.1" imprinted on the bottom left)

Note: If you have a newer version of RTW, or just aren't sure what version it is, be sure to load it and check. Launch a game of "vanilla", and at the RTW Menu screen, select "Options". The version number will appear on the top right of the next screen.


List of changes:

Complete changelog split into 4 parts

Units


export_descr_units.txt, descr_model_battle.txt, export_units

updates
- removed Phalanx attribute for units using the classic greek phalanx
- camillan Triarii
- Hoplitai Haploi
- Misteret Izrahim Tsorim (poeni citize militia)
- Liby-Phoenician Infantry (early and late)
- removed swords from Spartiates Hoplitai and Hoplitai
- Celtic officers / standardbearers added to many units
- Eleutheroi Greek officer skin included
- new Getai General and Lesser General included
- Greek voicemod updated: Baktrian Bodyguard, mercenary Pezhetairoi, Kretikoi Toxotai
- reworked unit cost, stats and ownership for many Horsearcher units to rebalance the Nomad faction
- made and included UI cards and UI_info pics for all units which missed them
- custom and multiplayer export_descr_units.txt added
- Koinon Hellenon Genral Unit changed to Epilektoi Hoplitai
- new model/texture for Sweboz Gaisaharjoz
- new /skin for Ptolemaioi Peltastai
- Hellenic and Makedonian standardbearer skins updated
- changed Saba placeholder general unit to Noble Swordsmen
- New Saba Citizen Spearman skin
- New Arab Tribal Levies skin
- New Arab Light Cavalry Levies skin
- New Red Sea Axemen skin
- massive recruitment updated
- extensive revision to Aedui/Arverni/Casse recruitment
- Hypaspistati now recruitable by Arche Seleukia
- Lorica Scutarii now recruitable by Karthadstim
- Illyrian Hippies now recruitable in the Adriatic regions for all factions to close the recruitmenthole
- Camillan Hastati, Rorarii and equites are now recruitable by all factions to close italia recruitmenthole
- many other recruitment updates to much to list them all
- many new ship and unit descriptions included
- reworked descriptions for all SPQR, Getai and Goedelic units
- new Translations for Sabaean units

bugfixes
- massive reworking of EDU and DMB to eliminate model sharing conflicts. This made the build much cleaner AND eliminated the Rebel-turn CTD
- massive unit graphik error fix (Hetaroi, Spartiates Hoplitai and many more)
- several sprite issues fixed
- many stat/cost/buildtime change to rebalance units (Balearic slinger, Baktian Hippotoxotai, classical Hoplite units and many more)
- all units are now have the correct Ui Card and Info pic
- fixed missing texture of skythian archers for Sweboz
- Taxeis Triballi mode, Skin corrected, and unit class changed to "heavy"
- the spear angle of overhand spear units (Thorakitai, Frameharjoz, Thureophoroi...) reworked, to solve the spear through Head bug
- Baktrioi Agema shied flying bug solved
- Arabian Swordsmen error fixed
- fixed retreat sounds for ALL factions
- Gladius textures fixed
- fixed Rebel Massilioi Hoplite Merc CTD
- Fixed unit name "offset bug"



Buildings


export_descr_buildings.txt and export_buildings.txt

updates
- removes epic walls
- paved roads are now available for barbarian factions
- new faction specific government bonuses for semitic factions (Karthadastim, Saba)
- adding temples with faction specific bonuses for Saba
- edb great_forum trade bonus increased from 4 to 5 for Karthadastim and from 3 to 4 for all other factions
- new navy_port complex code in edb to include kerkuroi
- many new building descriptions included and old ones rewritten and corrected
- new translation for Pahlavan building names

bugfixes
- nomad building complex requirements redone to make the nomadism work properly
- portup, shipwright, dockyard fix for Arche Seleukeia
- problem with trade routes fixed
- all "egyptian" entries changed to egypt
- problem with gymnasiumacademic fixed
- problem with stables_barracks building complex fixed
- building hinterland_farms2 section
- possible CTD causing issue fixed (all remaining ",}" changed to ", }")
- roads/paved_roads requirements fixed
- fixed EDB bug to allow construction of level 4 and 5 markets



Ancillaries / traits / script



updates
- Punic wars script included
- several non specific updates for Trait and ancillaries
- several script updates

bugfixes
- multiple seasons bug fixed
- getting ancillary of the same type bug fixed
- several non specific bugfixes
- several non specific script bugfixes
- fixed a crucial precursor building placement bug which made reforms impossible for SPQR and the Celtic factions if they were AI controlled
- script fix to prevent KH and Seleukids getting warning messages from Halikarnassos
- revised Celts-Epeiros script to avoid possible CTDs due to unit ownership
- moved Camillan Reforms building from Messana to Segesta



descr_strat.txt / campaign_script.txt / map /all other


updates
- brigand/pirate value increased to 50/70 to make them appear lesser
- Starting Diplomacy and core Attitudes Updated to better reflect the world around 272
- updated the starting situation (buildings / Army position and composition / city level / population /starting treasury) for many factions to better refelct the world around 272 and/or balancing
- removed British Units from starting armies on the continent
- completely redone the Makedonian/Epirus/Koinon Hellenon army composition, and starting position
- all Eleutheroi starting armies which were left from 0.72 are now updated to represent there regions better
- Rebel Illyrian and Indo-Hellenic units removed from start map
- Rebel Leader Jubal moved from Gader to Sucum-Murgi
- many more changes to much to list them
- included/updated Fog of War spies for Makedonia, SPQR, Getai, Saba, Saka, Arverni
- map updated
- changed to Ptolemaioi from Memphis to Alexandria
- General User Interface updated
- new colour matching diplomats/assassins/spies for all factions
- mine income reworked
- population growing reworked new bflf's
- menu updated
- new victory messages
- disasters changed
- new building images
- new faction eliminated pictures
- updated Rome.int
- descr_rebel_factions.txt reworked
- settlement planes updated
- new message for the vanilla Marius Reform eventto better fit into EB
- new loadscreens
- Gaesatae removed from descr_mercenaries.txt
- Sabaean rebel battle flag
- Reduced Trade Goods Values
- added the Defeat Music
- new Lusotannan Tooltip
- new translation for Saba faction name

bugfixes
- Artemis Temple of Ephesos in Dayuan removed
- several duplicated buildings removed
- remove two walls from Kartli

- government buildings for Saba Ptolemaioi fixed
- duplicated governments removed
- Lusotannan Homelands placed into the correct regions
- map errors fixed
- fixed the CTD on Armorica
- "hovering stones" CTD fix,
- error in pre battle screen fixed that caused a CTD everytime the player attacked Saba
- Saka Familiy Members tooltip fixed
- cataphract reform building image fixed
- added tradeport to every province with bigport
- settlement view CTD fixed
- settlement stratmodels are now working
- fixed possible CTD caused by new grass textures
- Saba has a Type 1 Government in their starting city (Kull)
- new Oasis graphic is working (descr_settlement_plan.txt
- corrected Lusotannan "leader pic"

Warmaster Horus
02-18-2007, 13:18
The Time has finally come!
All Rejoice!
EB 0.81 is here! d/l now

'Punic wars script included' What does that mean?
I'll just wait and see.
Perhaps this should be stickied?

Krusader
02-18-2007, 13:20
The Time has finally come!
All Rejoice!
EB 0.81 is here! d/l now

'Punic wars script included' What does that mean?
I'll just wait and see.
Perhaps this should be stickied?

If Romans conquer Messana or stay near the city for 1 turn or more, Carthage declares war on them.

BerkeleyBoi
02-18-2007, 13:22
I am amazingly happy and sad right now.

Happy of course that .81 is out...

... but sad that I won't be able to play it for two weeks since I'm in Hong Kong with my family during the Spring Festival!

Oh well, I'm sure everyone else will be able to enjoy it! And 恭喜发财!新年快乐!

(oh, but I'm still going to DL it and help seed the torrent! hopefully I'll be able to read some good AARs during the two weeks!)

Thaatu
02-18-2007, 13:34
:fainting:

Occultum
02-18-2007, 13:44
Is it me ????? or i cant save my game , save option doest work or what , is it a bug?

Well it happens only in my Lusotan campain , i tried with rome and it works

fish
02-18-2007, 13:47
Wow, now that's a pleasant surprise. Perfect timing since I wanted to start a new campaign next week. I'm sure the waiting was worth it. Many thanks to the modders for this vastly improved version of the game!!

d'Arthez
02-18-2007, 13:58
Is it me ????? or i cant save my game , save option doest work or what , is it a bug?
Well, it does work for me in the Lusotannan campaign.

Foot
02-18-2007, 14:03
If the savegame doesn't work then that suggests a problem with campaign_script.txt, which can go into a loop and thus stop the game from saving (thankfully something that doesn't occur in MTW2 - thank God!). It is certainly odd that that is happening, especially if another has confirmed that it does indeed work. It may be a problem with a bad install or perhaps might just be a fluke.

Foot

Occultum
02-18-2007, 14:32
DAMIT !!

I tried new campaigns with other factions , LOAD AND SAVE option works....

But aint working in the Lusitan campaign that i want to play , auto save doesnt work neither , and Load and save option are locked !!!!!

I alreasy reeinstal,, still doesnt work , how i ficx ths , pls help me

Foot
02-18-2007, 14:46
DAMIT !!

I tried new campaigns with other factions , LOAD AND SAVE option works....

But aint working in the Lusitan campaign that i want to play , auto save doesnt work neither , and Load and save option are locked !!!!!

I alreasy reeinstal,, still doesnt work , how i ficx ths , pls help me

We'll check into it.

Foot

Germaan
02-18-2007, 15:04
:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:

Many thanks to the EB Team.:beam: :yes:

It is realy amazing what you guys did do with this game.

Fantastic!!!!!:2thumbsup:

Antagonist
02-18-2007, 15:05
Congratulations to the team for getting out a new version. :2thumbsup:

The torrents are a good call, I've gotten pretty much every release of EB that way, with some of the best speeds I've ever gotten from that medium.

Antagonist

McHrozni
02-18-2007, 15:10
I get a problem: missing skeleton for secondary weapon in Carthaginian infantry in export_units_descr.txt. Consequently the game won't start at all.

McHrozni

Moros
02-18-2007, 15:15
Strange people got it to work. So I guess that or you have corrupt download or you didn't install it properly. the 0.81 patch should be installed over a 0.8 version of EB. Then 0.8 must not have been modded.

EDit: I've seen others having the same problem. A reïnstall of 0.8 and 0.81 makes it working.
EDit2: deleting the map.rwm, in the EB/data/world/maps/base folder might help if you can't start campaigns.

Foot
02-18-2007, 15:25
I think its safe to say that a clean install of at least EB 0.8 before applying the patch is the best way to go here.

Foot

Omanes Alexandrapolites
02-18-2007, 15:26
Hurray, the day has come! Downloading now, thanks guys :thumbsup:

And, may I ask, what unit is it on the artwork?

HFox
02-18-2007, 15:31
Torrenting now, 300kps :).

Nice surprise, just come in from the garden and foudn this. Loads of brownie points built up with the mrs.

Now to wend away a couple of hours.

Many thanks to all the team.

Lord Gruffles
02-18-2007, 15:47
Three Cheers for the EB Team! :cheerleader:

Foot
02-18-2007, 15:50
Notice to all EB fans. After installing the EB 0.81 patch you must delete map.rwm. map.rwm can be found in the following folder of your EB install:

[x]:\[RTW folder]\EB\data\world\maps\base\map.rwm

[x] is the drive letter on which the RTW you are using to run EB is installed.

[RTW folder] stands for the base folder of your RTW install, which contains RomeTW.exe.

The default is:
c:\program files\activision\rome - total war

Foot

Omanes Alexandrapolites
02-18-2007, 15:57
I'll just add to what Foot has said. If you have Gold then your R:TW directory is: C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War

Mordecai
02-18-2007, 15:59
Excellent, you guys just made my Sunday.. my Monday too since I don't have to work:yes:

zodmaner
02-18-2007, 16:06
Hi, I'm just post here to congratulate and giving my thanks to EB team. What an excellent patch it is! At first I thought it would just be a couple of bug fixes here and there, but then I loaded up the KH and saw the new general unit... it was amazing! And then there was this new Baktria General body guard!! and all the new stuff that have been add!!

Thanks you EB team, as aways you guys manages to not only meet, but in this case, exceed expectation! Keep up the good work guys! and thank you for all your hard work!!!

Krusader
02-18-2007, 16:12
Announcement updated with link to Full Installer.

Occultum
02-18-2007, 16:14
I made a new fresh installation of rtw vanilla , apllied 1.2 patch , 1.3 , 1.5 , o,8 and 0,81 .


Still when i started a new Lusitan campaign it doesnt let u save and auto save doesnt work either !!!!!!!!!!!


PLs , the ones that have the 0.81 already just try to make a new capaign wit Lusitan and try to save the current campaign, it doesnt work , repot here pls
I remind you , it happens only with Lusitan faction , ive already tested with other factions and save/load works , i think Lusitan faction is broken !!!! too bad i wanted to play them !!!

Bonny
02-18-2007, 16:15
I made a new french installation of rtw vanilla , apllied 1.2 patch , 1.3 , 1.5 , o,8 and 0,81 .


Still when i started a new Lusitan campaign it doesnt let u save and aoto save doesnt work either !!!!!!!!!!!


PLs , the ones that have the 0.81 already just try to make a new capaign wit Lusitan and try to save the current campaign, it doesnt work , repot here pls

I confirm your error. That's strange.

Teleklos Archelaou
02-18-2007, 16:27
I can confirm it too. We will get our guys working on it as soon as possible, but for now Lusotannan are just out for anyone wanting to play in 0.81.

Taliferno
02-18-2007, 17:05
I can confirm it too. We will get our guys working on it as soon as possible, but for now Lusotannan are just out for anyone wanting to play in 0.81.

It works fine in my one, using BI.

d'Arthez
02-18-2007, 17:12
I had it working on RomeTW (1.5). Which makes it even stranger. Am currently checking it anew. The only explanation I can come up with is that a particular course of action would cause an infinite script-loop.

Will do a step-by-step check. Hopefully that casts a bit of light on this mystery.

Teleklos Archelaou
02-18-2007, 17:16
One of our guys did a fresh install of the whole thing (080 plus 081 files) and he can save them for lusotannan. Very strange.

DeathEmperor
02-18-2007, 17:16
It's here! ITS REALLY HERE!!! *dances naked* :beam:

A big sincere thank you to the EB team for releasing .81. I can't wait to conquer the ancient world all over again. :2thumbsup:

Dayve
02-18-2007, 17:26
Strange that so many people are having problems... I had a clean 0.8, except for Darth formation mod, and i simply installed 0.81 and played, worked fine.

Great news EB doods, wonderful! I can finally start that Romani campaign i've been waiting to start.

And you put in those new cities for 'civilized' factions! That's just the icing on the cake.

You know i love you. Don't you... Yushhhhh... Who's a good boy? Wushiwushiwushi...

d'Arthez
02-18-2007, 17:28
That is strange. Paths should not make a difference (mine is definitely not a standard path).

My installation was not fresh. The only thing I did do was to remove all save-games. But the chances of that (or a lacking "Save" directory) being the cause ...

DeathEmperor
02-18-2007, 17:32
:help: So anyways I decided to dowload the full .81 install, and I was wondering something.

Will installing Barbarian Invasion before I install EB .81 affect Eb in any way? I wanted to play .81 using the BI.exe but I don't want to do anything that might screw up my install or anything like that.

Foot
02-18-2007, 17:45
That is strange. Paths should not make a difference (mine is definitely not a standard path).

My installation was not fresh. The only thing I did do was to remove all save-games. But the chances of that (or a lacking "Save" directory) being the cause ...

Mine is neither a standard path, it was also installed on a non-clean copy of EB 0.8.

Neither of the two problems that have so far been reported (error messages on start up and no saves for lusotannan) have occured.

Foot

Fondor_Yards
02-18-2007, 17:47
If Romans conquer Messana or stay near the city for 1 turn or more, Carthage declares war on them.

Does it work the other way too, if Carthage takes it/sit there Rome declares war?

MaximusGauis
02-18-2007, 18:09
Thanks EB team for all your work on .81. I'll have to finish my Rome campaign and give the new .81 a whirl.

Blingerman
02-18-2007, 18:09
Well, the game works perfect for me and I can save in the lusotannan campaign. I had a clean EB 0.8 installation in a EB folder.

Caesar Vastator
02-18-2007, 18:13
Thanks BE team for the patch!!:2thumbsup:
The lusotannan load/save bug happens also to me.... very strange (i have a clean istallation)

Occultum
02-18-2007, 18:18
"The lusotannan load/save bug happens also to me.... very strange (i have a clean istallation"


Im so pissed , the faction i want to play is broken , i been thinking why it doesnt work , cant find the answer BAH

We know the others faction are working ,so Lusitan is missing something , or has something different from others , lets find what is wrong BAH

Moros
02-18-2007, 18:33
Yes this lusotannan thing is getting really wierd. Some can save/load others can't. And I'm quite sure I didn't do anything wrong during the instal.

Kull
02-18-2007, 18:43
Yes this lusotannan thing is getting really wierd. Some can save/load others can't. And I'm quite sure I didn't do anything wrong during the instal.

A very weird bug. Half the team has no problem at all, and the other half (including me) is experiencing the same issue you guys are reporting - can't save a Lusotanna game. We are testing out some strategies for dealing with it, however. In the meantime, every other faction is completely, 100% playable. So if anybody MUST play Lusotana, just stay with v.80. Otherwise upgrade and enjoy!

Oleo
02-18-2007, 19:07
Awesome news guys!, installing as I type :beam:

Lysander13
02-18-2007, 19:26
Thanks EB Team!!..You guys just made my weekend!!..Just upgraded and installed .81 patch to my .80 installation and everything is good to go..The Lusotannan save bug has apparantly skipped over me as i can save that campaign just fine..Woo-Hoo:2thumbsup: ..

Julian the apostate
02-18-2007, 19:30
and the lord proclaimed YAYYYYYY

kambiz
02-18-2007, 19:57
Congratulations EB team ,Nice work. So what's the next step? Final release or another Patch?

Thanks a lot for the effort

C.LVCIANVS
02-18-2007, 19:58
~:grouphug: :horn: :dancing: :elephant: :thrasher: :bounce: ~:joker:
... What more? THANKS TO THE EB TEAM PANTHEON!!!:laugh4:

Roderick Ponce Von Fontlebottom
02-18-2007, 19:59
How the crap doo we use that torrent file. its just a 15kb file... its prolly cuz ive never used a torrent b4 what do we do?

----nevermind-- I googled it......no one answered anyway..

CaesarAugustus
02-18-2007, 20:01
Yes! Finally! Thank you EB team for all your hard work!:beam:



5. Copy this entire folder to a new directory and rename THE COPY (for example, instead of "Rome: Total War" it would be "EB")
6. Install EB v.80 into the new "EB" directory


Do we have to do this for EB v.81? I'm a little low on space....

Wolfman
02-18-2007, 20:08
Yes! Yes! Yes! THANK YOU EB TEAM!

pezhetairoi
02-18-2007, 20:21
Hmm, I checked the list of unit changes, and I note there was no mention of the unit recruitment gap in northern Hispania. Does this mean northern Hispania is still devoid of troops?

That aside, YAY! Finally Makedonia no longer needs to go round with hordes of Hoplitai Haploi. And on the other hand, oh no, neither does KH... no more blitzkrieg. xP *ph33rs the foretold Greek Hoplite General's Unit*

soibean
02-18-2007, 20:45
I think I found my bit torrent problem... is bit torrent always so slow?

The_Mark
02-18-2007, 20:49
Found the bugging bugger bugging Lusotannans. The thing affects only a certain unit size (huge or large) and is easily fixed.

Quick fix: Goto world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/CAMPAIGN_SCRIPT.txt line 2080 and replace 0.3 with 0.22

Oh yeah, the bug is savegame compatible, in case someone is worried about that :beam:

Moros
02-18-2007, 20:51
Yes! Finally! Thank you EB team for all your hard work!:beam:



Do we have to do this for EB v.81? I'm a little low on space....
you don't have to, but it is recommended that you do so.

Edit: that explains why some had it and others didn't. THX The_Mark!

Teleklos Archelaou
02-18-2007, 20:56
I removed the period after your "0.22" The_Mark. Just in case some didn't realize it was the period in the sentence.

Oh, and terrific work btw! :2thumbsup: Mine didn't work before, but it does now! Great fix!

Red_orbiT
02-18-2007, 21:28
Excellent work as always:)

After a few hours of playing, I can confirm that saka is indeed fully playable now:D

Thank you!

Artificer
02-18-2007, 21:38
I seem to be having a problem. I've downloaded the patch via BitTorrent, as recommended, and installed it in the EB folder within the RTW one. The EB 8.1 shortcut appears on my desktop, as it should, but it then a window with a flashlight pops up asking for me to browse the computer in order to find the proper .exe. Alright, so I do. I assign the shortcut to open the Rome.exe, because there are no other compatible files in sight within the Rome or EB folder within Rome.

Then trouble begins.

When I open the shortcut it takes me to EB, and so far everything looks peachy. Except when I look at the version number at the bottom left of the menu screen. It still says 0.8.0.

Am I doing something wrong? I had reinstalled everything (RomeTW, EB 8.0, 1.3 & 1.5 patches) prior to putting 8.1 in and still this happens.

:help:

bovi
02-18-2007, 21:43
Artificer, the mod *absolutely must* be installed in the directory where your RTW resides. Not the EB subfolder.

Kull
02-18-2007, 21:45
The_Mark is The_Man

Need we say more? ~:cheers:

Artificer
02-18-2007, 21:45
Thanks Bovi, I'll uninstall EB and try again then.

Kull
02-18-2007, 21:51
Hmm, I checked the list of unit changes, and I note there was no mention of the unit recruitment gap in northern Hispania. Does this mean northern Hispania is still devoid of troops?

We had a slight disconnect between the list of changes in the Readme file (below) and those posted in the Announcement. As you can see, we closed most of the holes (and after reading THAT, I see we forgot to mention closing the North African Recruitment hole - we added both Numidians to all the empty provinces there, again as a placeholder)

o Lusotana placeholder units added to all North Iberian provinces to close the Iberian recruitment hole
o Greek Unit recruitment added to all Greek Colony cities
o Illyrian Hippeis now recruitable in the Adriatic regions for all factions to close the Illyrian recruitment hole
o Camillan Hastati, Rorarii and equites are now recruitible by all factions to close Central Italia recruitment hole

khelvan
02-18-2007, 22:21
恭喜发财!新年快乐!
喂!你好!
新年快乐!

Bonny
02-18-2007, 22:23
We had a slight disconnect between the list of changes in the Readme file (below) and those posted in the Announcement. As you can see, we closed most of the holes (and after reading THAT, I see we forgot to mention closing the North African Recruitment hole - we added both Numidians to all the empty provinces there, again as a placeholder)

o Lusotana placeholder units added to all North Iberian provinces to close the Iberian recruitment hole
o Greek Unit recruitment added to all Greek Colony cities
o Illyrian Hippeis now recruitable in the Adriatic regions for all factions to close the Illyrian recruitment hole
o Camillan Hastati, Rorarii and equites are now recruitible by all factions to close Central Italia recruitment hole

recruitment was updated many times, we didn't list all the changes that were done, in the changelog are only those mentioned which i could remember ~;)

Kull
02-18-2007, 22:34
recruitment was updated many times, we didn't list all the changes that were done, in the changelog are only those mentioned which i could remember ~;)

Amen - I was the guy doing it and I can't remember most of them! Suffice it to say that recruitment still has issues, but it's MUCH better than in v.80 :2thumbsup:

Bonny
02-18-2007, 23:12
Kung Hei Fat Choy! Happy New Year!

Hey! You!
Happy New Year!

lol

never thought that I would ever use the google translation tool for chinese..

新年快乐 ! :balloon2: :beam:

Dooz
02-18-2007, 23:15
If we're using this with the BI.exe, do we have to start a campaign through Provincial Campaign, then select the EB main campaign? When I try selecting the EB main campaign straight from the main menu, it says select item from list. Is this a bug or is it how it's intended? Also, when I use the provincial campaign, some options aren't available at startup that otherwise would be, such as campaign battle time limit. Any reasons?

bovi
02-18-2007, 23:18
BI is not supported. I for one have never tested it, so while 0.8 worked with BI it might be broken in 0.81.

Bonny
02-18-2007, 23:20
If we're using this with the BI.exe, do we have to start a campaign through Provincial Campaign, then select the EB main campaign? When I try selecting the EB main campaign straight from the main menu, it says select item from list. Is this a bug or is it how it's intended? Also, when I use the provincial campaign, some options aren't available at startup that otherwise would be, such as campaign battle time limit. Any reasons?

Since EB wasn't made for BI, you need to start it throught the provincial campaign menu (and have to modify some files to make costum battles working).
To deactivet the battle time look at the preference teyt there you can turn it off afaik.

Dooz
02-18-2007, 23:23
Indeed. I used Oleo's guide to get custom battles working, which it does. It's just weird because with 0.8 I could start a campaign straight through the main menu Main Campaign. Well anyhoo, I'm sure something'll come up eventually. Thanks guys.

Moros
02-18-2007, 23:35
喂!你好!
新年快乐!
愉快的聖誕節

Occultum
02-19-2007, 00:06
"
Quick fix: Goto world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/CAMPAIGN_SCRIPT.txt line 2080 and replace 0.3 with 0.22

Oh yeah, the bug is savegame compatible, in case someone is worried about that
"


THANK GOD:beam:

Karielle
02-19-2007, 00:10
Found the bugging bugger bugging Lusotannans. The thing affects only a certain unit size (huge or large) and is easily fixed.

Quick fix: Goto world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/CAMPAIGN_SCRIPT.txt line 2080 and replace 0.3 with 0.22

Oh yeah, the bug is savegame compatible, in case someone is worried about that :beam:

Is there an easier way to find that line? I'm not too familiar with scripting, and I find a few 0.3s in the file.. I don't quite relish the prospect of counting out the lines, somehow. *wry*

Kull
02-19-2007, 00:18
Is there an easier way to find that line? I'm not too familiar with scripting, and I find a few 0.3s in the file.. I don't quite relish the prospect of counting out the lines, somehow. *wry*

Here are lines 2079, 2080, and 2081:


monitor_event SettlementTurnStart SettlementName Oxtraca
and GarrisonToPopulationRatio > 0.3
console_command give_trait "Manivscvrivs Dentatvs" UnitSize 4

If you do a search for the entire second line it will give you a couple of hits, but only one has the "Oxtraca" line above it.

Karielle
02-19-2007, 01:04
Right, thanks! :D

Batahr
02-19-2007, 01:13
For others having trouble finding the correct line:
The easiest way to find that line is to open the file in notepad (usually just double click on the file), press Ctrl+G and enter the number 2080. The cursor is now on the start of the correct line.
(If nothing happens when you press Ctrl+G you must disable "Word wrap" in the View menu and try again.)

ir_man
02-19-2007, 04:33
I'm from Asia,thank you,thank all of you,thank anyone who work for this great work!!!:beam: :beam: :beam: Your work makes my total war's world more beauty,more funny!!! Thank you all again!!!

PSYCHO V
02-19-2007, 06:52
Well done guys :2thumbsup:

sass
02-19-2007, 08:02
OK Im totaly conffused..


there is a Patch..then a full version?? whats the diferince??

Also Why in gods name do i have to start editing all files and folders and copying this and that..i have no clue how to do that whatsoever:idea2: Whats up with not just pointing and clicking a location in the main data folder to install things anymore lol people makeing stuff all complacated lol

I have so fair downloaded the game noto my puter..did both patchs..and am not gonna put the mod on till i get clearer directions that tells me what to do..The Directions seem to only talk about the patch and not the full version of whatver it says when it says FULL..am i to asume that is a complaet replacement for the old one..or do i overwrite the old one by installing it first then over writeing the old mod with the new one FULL?? I don't wanna mess up its a sure pain in the ass to have a crash and have to unload all the damn game and do it again..

And do i reallllly have to copy the whole game into anouther new folder and is that to just make sure the old version works before installing the patch asueming the directions are for the patch and full..to make sure the old one is working before preceeding??

And if so How and What do i copy in the first folder that i click on activison in program files..please be more spasfic thank you:help:

Fondor_Yards
02-19-2007, 08:30
The patch is for people who already have version .80 installed. It coverts it to version .81. The "full" version is for people who do NOT have .80 installed. It contains both versions. And all I did do was point and click and it installed correctly. *after my first download was bad, the 2nd seems to be working fine *.

sass
02-19-2007, 08:37
The patch is for people who already have version .80 installed. It coverts it to version .81. The "full" version is for people who do NOT have .80 installed. It contains both versions. And all I did do was point and click and it installed correctly. *after my first download was bad, the 2nd seems to be working fine *.


Thank you..

And may the force be with you~:pat:

oudysseos
02-19-2007, 10:58
Lust installed and started the KH (all over again).

:2thumbsup: :yes: :beam: :balloon2: :bow: ~:cheers: ~:cool: ~:smoking: :jumping: :cheerleader: :bump: :elephant: :flowers: :shakehands: :knuddel:

Obelics
02-19-2007, 12:27
installed it, all go fine (i didn't tried lusos yet btw), thanks to the team, since we are in theme for celebrations, zhongGuo pengYou xinNien huaiLe, tomorrow here is carnival... i dont know if it is the same in all europe, happy carnival day partys anyway.~:joker:

olly
02-19-2007, 14:08
Marvellous news, will look forward to playing probably at the weekend.

Just wanted to know if Pontus have a full unit roster yet and has the growth rate of cities been changed?

Thank you.

Moros
02-19-2007, 14:15
I can't think of a faction which has all their units allready really. But I'd say they have enough units. Don't know if pontus has new units tough, I think not.

Growth rate? I don't know, but you can easily check it out.

Severian Huizi
02-19-2007, 17:53
Played for four turns last night (didn't have much time) and now i'm typing this over coffee with class in thirty minutes.

The Saka are a blast, the nomadic government systems are a breath of fresh air after ages of Successor games.

cultist
02-19-2007, 19:55
Hello
I am trying v0.81 on Bi engine...
The units are still messed up,i checked this via custom battle and after tested them in a campaign.
The greeks do not have any phalangas???...their best one does not enter phalanga mode,and does not run! :(
Also Baktria has 2 medium phalanga units with the same stats one costing 2000 the other 1500.The macedonian elite phalanga costs more than Epirus one,but i think Epirus phalanga is the best stand alone unit in the game...
If this stuff is correct i don`t know...just posted what i felt was weird.
The game still rules ~:grouphug:
Thanks EB team

Foot
02-19-2007, 20:24
Not all units are in game. I believe there are two planned phalangitai units for KH. Their current general is just an intermediary until the proper one is made - it was a last minute thing.

I couldn't say a thing about the Baktrian phalangitai units unfortunately.

As regards the epieros and mak elite phalangitai units, what you think and what is actually the case are often two different things. I imagine reading the descriptions for both units would allow you to better understand the difference between the units, and perhaps why one is more expensive than the other. This principle applies to the baktrian problem you raised as well.

Foot

Lord Gruffles
02-19-2007, 20:55
Sorry, figured this thread was as good as any to post this:

[/spam]OMG I AM THOROUGHLY ENJOYING MY NEW SELEUKID CAMPAIGN!!!! TY TY TY EB TEAM! YOU PWN!!!![/spam]


Ok, that felt good to get off my chest! :2thumbsup:

Shifty_GMH
02-20-2007, 14:30
Great job guys! Downloading now. Can't wait to give it a try.

Domitius Ulpianus
02-21-2007, 05:59
Weird thing: I installed and played the .81 version...I had the map.rwm file so I deleted...I just bought a new Hard Disk so Im installing everything again and this time I cant find the map.rwm file on the EB data...etc folder....weird...:juggle2:

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
02-21-2007, 07:02
Weird thing: I installed and played the .81 version...I had the map.rwm file so I deleted...I just bought a new Hard Disk so Im installing everything again and this time I cant find the map.rwm file on the EB data...etc folder....weird...:juggle2:
If you have never started EB since removing it last, you won't have the map.rwm.

Domitius Ulpianus
02-21-2007, 07:44
If you have never started EB since removing it last, you won't have the map.rwm.

Umm..sory I think I wasnt very clear..I meant the first time I installed I had to remove the map file...but then after I got my new hard disk (which is my system HD I had to re install everything from zero ..everything is working like it should but the only weird thing I found is the map file is not there after I ifinished installing everything...

Thanks for the reply in any case!

Ower
02-21-2007, 08:01
Umm..sory I think I wasnt very clear..I meant the first time I installed I had to remove the map file...but then after I got my new hard disk (which is my system HD I had to re install everything from zero ..everything is working like it should but the only weird thing I found is the map file is not there after I ifinished installing everything...

Thanks for the reply in any case!


Well of course it's not there, it is created when you first start the game.
Not after instaling.

Subedei
02-21-2007, 09:46
Thank You guys a a ton!!!!!! !!!!!!

~:cheers: ~:grouphug:


I am able to continue my Baktrian campaign now, as it ctd-ed all the time in 0.80. Now it runs all smooth and fancy....

I love the look, the gameplay and the Baktrian faction is becoming my favourite yet...still curious about Saka, but will have to end the Baktris 1st.

Teleklos Archelaou
02-21-2007, 14:53
It's not supposed to be save game compatible at all with 0.80, but if it works for you, then knock yourself out. :2thumbsup:

Domitius Ulpianus
02-21-2007, 15:35
Well of course it's not there, it is created when you first start the game.
Not after instaling.

OHHH silly me :oops:

So after playing the first time I should delete that file?....sorry for all the confusion...it's just that it looks like everything is working just great and I don't want to mess it up :help:

Thanks all for the patience

Koenig
02-21-2007, 19:44
I just have to come out and say this:

After downloading 0.81 and playing around 30 turns into a new Carthaginian campaign, I have two words for the EB team.

:2thumbsup:THANK YOU!!!!:2thumbsup:

Ower
02-21-2007, 20:04
OHHH silly me :oops:

So after playing the first time I should delete that file?....sorry for all the confusion...it's just that it looks like everything is working just great and I don't want to mess it up :help:

Thanks all for the patience

You dont have to delet it if your first game is 0.81. Than you have the right map.rwm. It needs to be deleted only if you played 0.80, befor, because the game would use a file whit inacured informations, causing problems to your gameplay.

Subedei
02-21-2007, 20:35
It's not supposed to be save game compatible at all with 0.80, but if it works for you, then knock yourself out. :2thumbsup:

Oh, this is weired...it does say 0.81 on the loading screen...well, hopefully I am a lucky Bactri here....:smash:

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
02-22-2007, 00:13
It's not supposed to be save game compatible at all with 0.80, but if it works for you, then knock yourself out. :2thumbsup:
Odd, I couldn't get the internal version (just pre0.81) to work with saved games, and I tried changing a bunch of stuff around. I ended up settling for dumping the 0.81 UI folder on top of the 0.80 UI folder.

CaesarAugustus
02-22-2007, 00:53
Well of course it's not there, it is created when you first start the game.
Not after instaling.

I don't understand, is the map.rwm file supposed to be there after you start your first game? Because I have deleted it several times now but it seems to be reappearing in the folder every so often.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
02-22-2007, 01:24
I don't understand, is the map.rwm file supposed to be there after you start your first game? Because I have deleted it several times now but it seems to be reappearing in the folder every so often.
The "map.rwm" file is a file that is created by referencing many different files that make up all aspects of the RTW strat map. It is required for RTW to run. Whenever you start RTW, it will check for the "map.rwm", if there is none, it will make a new one. This is a good thing.

However, if there have been changes to the files that are referenced when making it, you will need to delete it so that it will make a updated one. Not deleting it after those files have been changed/saved over will cause the game to 1-run using the prechanged map, 2-crash, or 3-intermix some aspects but the bulk is not present.

You only need to delete the "map.rwm" when you download a mod or mod patch (that or change the map files yourself).

The EB installer does not contain an "map.rwm" file, so everytime you first play a fresh install (not patch, fresh install) it will make a new one. That one will be good as long as you don't change/patch/update your game.

CaesarAugustus
02-22-2007, 01:49
Thank you for clearing that up, MarcusAureliusAntoninus.

Domitius Ulpianus
02-22-2007, 03:56
Ohhhhhh :2thumbsup:

Thanks again guys....you are all very kind explaining this to us noobs. Thanks all.

blacksnail
02-22-2007, 23:48
Just wanted to know if Pontus have a full unit roster yet and has the growth rate of cities been changed?
Growth rate of cities has been changed - the base farming levels for many cities have been altered to slow things down. Growth will likely be balanced further in future versions, so please give us feedback on city growth in 0.81 after you've played a decently long game (ie, at 200 BC, 150 BC, etc).

Simetrical
02-23-2007, 06:15
As requested, the patch is now mirrored by TWC, here (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=1197).

CaesarAugustus
02-24-2007, 18:55
- fixed retreat sounds for ALL factions

Does this mean that retreating units are not supposed to shout out in English any more, or am I misunderstanding this? Because I have heard retreating units speak english several times now.....

EDIT: It's just the Rebel faction that does this.

Geoffrey S
02-24-2007, 19:12
Wow. I've played ten turns as Saba now, and have become completely immersed. And that's even considering the fact that of all factions it probably still needs the most work! It really feels unique, a small Arabian kingdom fighting far from the centre of conflict, slowly uniting Arabia before unleashing a great storm on the rest of the world (at least, that's what I hope for). The emphasis on light infantry really has me playing in a completely different style to when I played as phalanx-heavy Epirus.

Great work, and good luck with further updates!

Rilder
02-28-2007, 18:51
I think its a rather proven fact that EB Team + EB = Godly

the_handsome_viking
03-01-2007, 18:31
Out of curiosity have you guys removed the Gaesatae mercinaries from the recruitable mercinary locations? because in V8.0 it was fairly easy to get ahold of them (lots of dangly bits to grab I suppose) but now they appear to have disappeared, also the ones I had hired already have disappeared also.

The first time I loaded up version 8.1 to see if my campaign was still ok, when I closed it i got an error message after EB closed down saying that it was unable to load the Gaesatae unit card.

It really upsets and distresses me when naked men mysterious disappear after I install a patch.

Help me Europa Barbarorum, you are my only hope.

bovi
03-01-2007, 18:47
Replied to your post in the bug reports forum.

Suraknar
03-17-2007, 00:48
I am puting M2TW on the side for a while (till patch etc..)...and I am giving a try to EB.

At first glimpse I must admit the tremendeous and amaising job everyone involved has put in to this.

Congrats to all :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

I am sure this is going to be very enjoyable.

Centurion Varricus
03-19-2007, 18:14
Just wanted to say how much I'm enjoying your mod. I have been playing RTR for the last 18 months and while waiting for new 7.0, I needed a new challenge. I had heard good things about EB so finally decided to try it for myself. Im only a few turns into a KH campaign and loving it.

Thanks guys, great work, keep it up.

MindTr!ck
03-20-2007, 20:19
Hi I recently downloaded and installed the full installation version of v0.81. When I open the EB shortcut I am taken to a screen that just says Europa Barbarorum A modification for Rome Total War and it stays there. I have waited ten minutes and I was still on the same screen. Does anyone know what the problem is? Thanks.

Teleklos Archelaou
03-20-2007, 20:25
If you have a slower computer, the very first startup will take longer as the map.rwm file is generating. But that only takes place when you are going to the campaign. Your download (of the installer) may have been interrupted or corrupted. If you try it again, make sure to download the full 0.81a install instead. And make sure your build is RTW 1.5 to begin with. That is critical.

MindTr!ck
03-20-2007, 20:48
Alright, I am downloading the v0.81 full installer. I noticed that with my last download, EB installed a folder called EB inside my Rome Total War folder. Is it supposed to create this folder, or modify the folders already in the RTW folder? And my build is up to RTW 1.5. Thanks again for your help.

Teleklos Archelaou
03-20-2007, 20:56
It creates that new folder, but it puts just a handful of new files into your base RTW folder also. If you just started downloading 0.81 as a full install, why not download 0.81a as a full install instead? It will mean you don't have to put the patch on (and the "a" patch solves several errors).

edit: I see on the EB website, we only have the 0.81a full install on there, and not the 0.81 full install anymore. That's good and reduces confusion.

MindTr!ck
03-20-2007, 22:25
Thanks for the help. It works now. I haven't had a chance to actually play it yet, but I looked at the some of the factions in the Custom Battle. It looks Awesome!

Morte66
03-24-2007, 15:02
I've been unable to connect to the FTP server for the last day or so. Is it just me, or is there a problem?

bovi
03-24-2007, 18:04
It seems to be fine to me.

Morte66
03-24-2007, 18:33
I used the link on the first page i.e. https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=11

It redirects me to this page: https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ebupdated.html

I click on the link there to get v0.81a: https://www.europabarbarorum.com/ccount11/click.php?id=18

It tries to retrieve ftp://ftp.europabarbarorum.org/EB081a-full.exe

... and I find that Firefox, IE7 and SmartFTP all report that FTP server (IP 216.32.70.202 Port: 21) is dead.

Am I trying to use the wrong link, or is there some problem between my ISP and that server? Is there an alternate download?

Thanks for any help, and sorry if I'm causing a false alarm. All my other connectivity is working fine.

bovi
03-24-2007, 23:16
No, you're using the right link. I just tried to click it and it found the file. The problem seems to be on your end. You are obviously able to resolve the name to IP address. Some points that may or may not help you:

1) Are you able to ping it?
2) Have you tried to disable passive mode in any of your FTP clients? That was a solution to some previous problems, but likely irrelevant here...
3) Have you tried to disable windows firewall?
4) Are you trying from your workplace or from home? Some business networks are very restrictive about unencrypted traffic to the outside world.
5) Have you tried to download from a public computer (at a library, for instance) or any other computer not connected through your ISP?
6) Are you connected to a VPN? If so, try without being connected to the VPN. (If you don't know what VPN is, you're not connected to one)
7) (Advanced) Have you confirmed that your router allows outbound TCP traffic at port 21, and incoming on the port used for continuation with the FTP server once the handshake is complete? Only change stuff here if you know what you're doing!
8) (Advanced) Have you sniffed your network traffic, for instance with Ethereal, to see whether there is a response from the server?

Edit:
9) Have you successfully connected to another FTP server from your computer?

Morte66
03-25-2007, 00:50
No, you're using the right link. I just tried to click it and it found the file. The problem seems to be on your end. You are obviously able to resolve the name to IP address. Some points that may or may not help you:

1) Are you able to ping it?
2) Have you tried to disable passive mode in any of your FTP clients? That was a solution to some previous problems, but likely irrelevant here...
3) Have you tried to disable windows firewall?
4) Are you trying from your workplace or from home? Some business networks are very restrictive about unencrypted traffic to the outside world.
5) Have you tried to download from a public computer (at a library, for instance) or any other computer not connected through your ISP?
6) Are you connected to a VPN? If so, try without being connected to the VPN. (If you don't know what VPN is, you're not connected to one)
7) (Advanced) Have you confirmed that your router allows outbound TCP traffic at port 21, and incoming on the port used for continuation with the FTP server once the handshake is complete? Only change stuff here if you know what you're doing!
8) (Advanced) Have you sniffed your network traffic, for instance with Ethereal, to see whether there is a response from the server?

Edit:
9) Have you successfully connected to another FTP server from your computer?

:(

1) Pinging europabarbarorum.org [216.32.70.202] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 216.32.70.202:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

2) N/A until I resolve 1.

3) I don't use Windows Firewall. I do use Zone Alarm, disabling it made no difference.

4/6/7) Connecting from home, no VPN, no router, no LAN, I have a single PC with dial-up networking and a USB ADSL modem.

8) Too advanced for me.

9) Bingo... I'm having the same problem with a couple of other FTP servers I have used repeatedly in the past. [And I haven't reconfigured anything in ages.] Yup, this is definitely my problem. Thanks for your help, sorry for taking your time.

5) I will now...


EDIT: Ha! You've been added to the P2P blocklist for PeerGuardian, maintained at http://www.bluetack.co.uk/ Somebody thinks you're either (a) a P2P snooper or (b) a P2P poisoner. I overrode that and I am downloading the file fine now. Again, thanks for your help and sorry to waste your time on something which is not your fault. I really should have thought of this myself... ~:rolleyes:

bovi
03-25-2007, 15:39
Ha! You've been added to the P2P blocklist for PeerGuardian, maintained at http://www.bluetack.co.uk/ Somebody thinks you're either (a) a P2P snooper or (b) a P2P poisoner. I overrode that and I am downloading the file fine now. Again, thanks for your help and sorry to waste your time on something which is not your fault. I really should have thought of this myself...

But... But... Why? We use bittorrent to distribute EB, yes... But that's hardly poisoning.

bobdole85
03-27-2007, 07:28
I'm having a strange problem. I just installed v0.81 and every time I try to save I get a message saying "Save Failed couldn't save file on disk". It doesn't auto save either. Tried reinstalling but that hasn't helped. This occurs with all factions.

Lysander13
04-07-2007, 17:56
Quick question...I'm installing EB on a second system and want to know if the current full download comes with all the works....i.e..Hotfix, improved rebel CTD fix or do i still have to get those afterwards??..Thanks in advance.

Foot
04-08-2007, 15:05
It does not include the improved rebel ctd fix or any of the other stuff, but it does include the hotfix (ie 0.81a the patch for 0.81).

Foot

Ksaweri
06-11-2007, 21:10
Just thought I'd post to tell you what a wonderful job you've done with EB and look forward to the work you all continue to do making RTW the best game available on the PC.