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Tellos Athenaios
02-27-2007, 20:31
As requested I post this guide I wrote for another thread as a thread of its own - however, it's somewhat modified by now, if not extended.

Please take the time to read through the various notes list just below BEFORE reading the Guide, as not everything may apply, or may be required for each individual user. (Note1 for instance deals with such kind of information).

At all times, remember that this thread is for keeping the guide as sharp and to-the-point and complete as possible: it is not intended for individual cases, but the general case as a whole. If you discover you need help at some stage, or run into trouble, or find bugs or other thechnical issues you experience: please take the time and effort to read two more threads: How to ask for help with a crash (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=83728) and: 1.2 Fixes you should try before posting (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=109936) (it's a sticky in this forum).

Note: step 1, 2 and 3 are optional, provided that you have a clean, that is unmodified copy of RTW, patched to 1.5. In other words: you have a version 1.5 of RTW that contains neither any traces of other mods, nor any modifications of your own. In which case step 4 refers to your clean RTW 1.5 build

Note 2: if you use Windows Vista you may experience certain errors due to the security model Vista uses to protect your PC from possible threats.
One feature of the 'UAC' causes Windows Vista to override RTW (among other software) to store its preferences.txt file inside the AppData folder, which is a subfolder of your User Account. This may not affect RTW, but it does appear to prevent the so-called 'modfoldered' mods from running correctly, since they work with a separate preferences.txt file.
'Modfoldered' means that the so-called architecture, or structure of the mod is designed/created to make the mod work from its own, separate 'mod' folder, rather than overwriting the basic RTW file structures. This means that you can run multiple modfoldered mods on the basis of one RTW install; and that you can run the basic RTW from the same location to boot. As you probably guessed correctly by now, EB is fully modfoldered and therefore requires the possibility of generating, maintaining and reading its preferences from its own set of folders. Unfortunately the UAC prevents RTW from generating the file in the correct location, and more importantly: it appears to fail to point RTW to the modified location.

There are two ways to circumvent this issue:
1) Conform yourself to the security model: don't install softwar such as games in the C:\Program Files\ directory, or any of its subdirectories. The correct root folder for any softwar that wishes to use/store settings from/to a separate file always begins with the adress of your User Account. Therefore the left-most part of your install destination should then read "C:\Users\[Your Account Name]", with [Your Account Name] being the name of your account. So the path might look like.: "C:\Users\Admin" or "C:\Users\John Smith". Warning: this means that if you happen to have installed RTW inside the program folders (for instance you have applied the default suggestion its installer comes up with) you will have to either make a back up of this install inside your preferred subfolder at your account, or you will have to re-install RTW to this location.
2) Turn OFF the UAC. UAC means User Account Control and is a safety feature of Windows Vista (among other operating systems) to limit administrator powers to the very simple and basic ones for unexperienced administrators. On one side, this is a very sound way of protecting your PC against potentially malicious software if you are a very passive admin (i.e. you do not actively maintain the various security software, preferences and similar policies on your PC), on the other hand it limits what software installed by you is allowed to do. While it is certainly the most easy 'fix' to apply, it is not recommended unless you know what you do; and therefore it is not explained in any greater detail here. (For if you know what you are doing, you will have no trouble whatsoever to find out how to do it.)

Note 3: if you use a Steam client or similar for running RTW, the installer is unable to create a working shortcut to your RomeTW.exe. However there is a solution, as described by mk56:
Ok as an update, I figured out how to get this running in Steam. The problem was that EB is started with a command line on RomeTW.exe, and there was no way to put the shortcut the EB installation program creates into Steam (that I know of at least).

The solution is to manually enter the command line into the launch program button within Steam itself. In Steam, if you right click on the Rome: Total War launch button, there will be a properties option. In the general tab of properties there is a "Set launch options" button, which will bring up an empty text box. Manually type in "-mod:eb -show_err" (without apostrophe) into that box. Now when you run Rome: Total War, it will launch EB.

The downside is that I don't know a way to have a second Rome button in Steam, so if you wanted to play regular RTW you would have to go in and delete the command line. There might be a way to set it up where that is not necessary however.

Finally, then:


A Guide to Installing EB, step by step.

Step 1: Uninstalling your previous RTW & EB installs

Hit/ Left click start and left click "Control Panel":
https://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3614/guidestep1av3.th.jpg (https://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guidestep1av3.jpg)
Go to "Add/Remove Programs", and left click this tool:
https://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2292/guidestep2er5.th.jpg (https://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guidestep2er5.jpg)
Wait a bit, and you'll see a list of programs. Now, find all traces of RTW, and click remove:
https://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5657/guidestep3nc4.th.jpg (https://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guidestep3nc4.jpg)
If you're asked whether you're sure, well - you are! Are you not? :grin:
Do the same with all traces of EB you find:
https://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9356/guidestep4mk0.th.jpg (https://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guidestep4mk0.jpg)

Step 2: Installing RTW from the disc

Which needs no further explanation. Though, for convenience, you may want to write down in which folder you installed RTW - since you'll need that piece of information later on.

Step 3: Preparing your RTW install for EB

Make a back up of your newly installed RTW. To do so, create a new folder outside of the folder which you installed RTW in, and copy your RTW folder to that folder. Now, you basically should have two folders containing the whole RTW install.
Next, load up RTW, just as you would do to start playing it, but when you get to the main menu: select "Options". You should now see what version number your RTW is. This number is the key to what you're going to do next: patching.

If your install was 1.0, or 1.1 you must patch to 1.3 and then to 1.5 using the patches provided by CA. These should auto detect which folder you installed RTW in. After that run RTW another time, and check if your version number now reads "1.5".

If your install was 1.5 you don't need to patch at all.

Step 4: Downloading EB

Make sure you have downloaded EB v1.1 Full Install AND the EB v1.2 patch. Use this link:https://www.europabarbarorum.com/downloads_mod.html

Please note that EB is only available through mirror sites; and torrent; and that this will be for a while. The main reason to use torrent is that it is specifically designed for downloading large amounts of data (in this case the EB installer), and it will likely be quicker.

If you would like to use torrent: and you don't quite know how to do so; you could read this quick guide to torrents (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93040). Please keep in mind that it's no use to dowload through torrent when you don't have torrent client software installed on your PC. In any case when you have downloaded EB through torrent; you will be able to find it in the folder which contains all your torrent downloads.

If you would like to use a mirror instead: when you have to select a folder to save the file in, select "desktop". (This will be convenient later on; because you won't have to browse your folders to find the installer itself.)

Regardless which way you choose to download, if the file shows as "corrupted" or fails to start, you may have an anti-virus program running which falsely sees the EB installer as malicious code. While we cannot guarantee it is intact and unchanged on mirror sites, the torrent will be clean of any viruses, spyware or such ilk. If you choose to trust the installer, it should work.

Step 5: Installing EB
Now, run the EB installer (you should now be able to find it on your desktop):
https://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9263/g0gk4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

It will perform a MD5 checksum -you can read more about that in Bovi's remark above- and then if the MD5 is correct it will start unpacking some files:
https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5523/g1lc4.th.jpg (https://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g1lc4.jpg)

When it's done with unpacking the neccesary files it will show you this screen:
https://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6929/g2rg3.th.jpg (https://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g2rg3.jpg)

Click Install to start installing EB on your PC.
The first screen you'll now see is:
https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9284/g3ry2.th.jpg (https://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g3ry2.jpg)


And now start paying attention!

Why? Well, this is where most people who can't run EB have made a mistake. The path/adress you see there is set to be something by default: C:\...\Rome Total War
https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9284/g3ry2.th.jpg (https://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g3ry2.jpg)
However, for many people this is not the correct folder to install EB to.
Trick is to fill in the exact same folder, as the one which contains your clean RTW 1.5 on that line. (So: either the exact same folder as the one which you installed RTW in or the backup.) You can do this by typing the entire path, or by left clicking "Browse":
https://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4310/g4do2.th.jpg (https://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g4do2.jpg) https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4893/g5sh5.th.jpg (https://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g5sh5.jpg) https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1632/g6lj1.th.jpg (https://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g6lj1.jpg)
and select the folder of your clean RTW 1.5 (similar to selecting a picture from file to insert in Word, however this time you select your RTW 1.5 file folder instead of the "picture"). In my case the path ended up like this:
https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7295/g7sp3.th.jpg (https://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g7sp3.jpg)
Next, click "OK". Now, when your PC is done with the "OK" thingy the screen will look similar as to when your first had to insert the installation path... And breathe... However, this time the "address" (destination/ installation path are other ways to describe the same stuff) is that of your clean RTW 1.5. In my case that was this (see also the screenie above):
https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7295/g7sp3.th.jpg (https://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g7sp3.jpg)
Now click "Next". You'll now see a screen asking to double check your installation path before you give your final approval:
https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1423/g8dn1.th.jpg (https://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g8dn1.jpg)
To continue installing EB: select "Install", to adjust something you did earlier, click "Back".
If you have pressed "Install" a loading bar will reappear.
https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3700/g9ws9.th.jpg (https://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g9ws9.jpg)

This is the time to leave your PC alone for a while.
ONLY IF YOU ARE VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT IT OR YOU DON'T MIND TO DO EVERYTHING ALL OVER AGAIN, you can try to run something on your PC alongside it. (Which is exactly why you had to download the installer to your desktop; then you don't have to run a program to find the installer with!)

Now that EB 1.1 is installed, you need to do much of the same with the 1.2 patch - Make sure you install it into the very same location as 1.1!

Step 6: After installing EB
Wow, you and your PC made it through! Now you can choose what you'll do next. You can read the readme file (Recommended):
https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/426/g10tn0.th.jpg (https://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g10tn0.jpg)
You can install the optional Modesty Patch:
https://img465.imageshack.us/img465/1177/g11ln7.th.jpg (https://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g11ln7.jpg)

Whatever you choose, be sure to visit this thread too - these fixes are not part of the installer you downloaded (since the bugs were found after the release of the latest version; and no new installer has been put together since) 1.2 Fixes you should try before posting (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=109936)
The fixes are an absolute must-have, because not only do they fix what you might consider annoying, they improve stability of the mod. These fixes are typically save-game compatible, but not necessarily retroactive. That is: they will not help an ongoing campaign much (apart from preventing the fixed bug to re-appear) because the bugs have already been 'locked' into the save game. (An example would be the bug which cause the placement of certain reform buildings to re-occur every once in a while: if your campaign were affected by this bug already your duplicate reform buildings cannot be removed, though further spawning will be prevented by the fix.)

Therefore it is highly recommended that you install these fixes before playing EB for the first time: it's a one time only thing, and you will not have to give up an awesome campaign just because some bugfix is 'incompatible'. You can find all the fixes listed in this thread, accompanied by a brief instruction on how to install them correctly: 1.2 Fixes you should try before posting (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=109936)

Finally there is the subject of Minimods: EB has overtime gathered quite a large fanbase, and naturally not everyone thinks the way EB does things is the best. Or some people decide to add in some of the features or to fix bugs they know themselves, perferring not to wait until EB releases its next version. There are even those people who decided that RTW.exe is not the right engine and prefer to play EB on an expansion, hence the various mods/installers to get EB to work on BI.exe (from the Barbarian Invasion expansion) or ALX.exe (from the Alexander expansion). Of course this offers you the opportunity to 'customize' EB to what you think suits your tastes most; but there are some technical things to consider here as well:

If you really need this guide, and (think you) are unable to get EB to work on your own:
1) Submods of EB might not work correctly with previously installed mods or even the 'main' mod, or flat out introduce bugs of their own. The EB team are not involved with submods of EB and all the technical issues that lie therein: the EB team does not 'support' these modifications. If a member is kind enough to even genuinely puzzle himself with your submod bugreport you can count yourself very lucky - because these bugreports are low priority at best.
2) Submods of EB (as do fixes) usually require more familiarity with your PC than does the EB mod itself. The reason is that many of them are just a few files, and people who actually want to spend their time on installers for those are hard to find.
3) As a rule of thumb: be sure that whatever you install can also be uninstalled with ease too. You do not want to end up removing the modified files one by one to replace them with installer files; only to be able to install the other mini-mod you want to try out - which of course so happens to be incompatible. You do not want to re-install EB for the sole purpose of removing a mini-mod either. So before 'mindlessly' installing everything as described on the forum page of the mini-mod of your choice, it might be wise to take a look what files exactly are 'modded', and back the corresponding EB files up first. If nothing else, it saves you the hassle to figure it out afterwards.

4) Not all submods are compatible with the various EB fixes.
5) Some submods are made to enhance the runtime speed of RTW when you play EB. While they might look appealing at first, you also need to be aware of the fact that these can only accomplish this by removing features of EB.



Whatever you choose, it is still highly recommended to shut down and restart your PC before you start playing EB the first time after you have installed it.
https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3475/guiderestartnq4.th.jpg (https://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guiderestartnq4.jpg) (Only a one time thing, see it as a way to give your "exhausted" PC a break. Or as the typical thing to do after installing something onto your PC. ~;))

Step 7: And finally...
And now, finally, the very last part of the guide: how to give EB a try! :balloon3:
FINAL NOTES TO MAKE IT ALL WORK: in order to play EB you need to have your RTW disc in the disc drive, and double click the EB shortcut on your desktop.
https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2405/g12gf5.jpg (https://imageshack.us) As you can see, you can open the EB FAQ from there too. (Which requires a running Internet connection, since it redirects you to a web adress.)

Apart from that, in order to actually enjoy the 'EB-experience' it is paramount that you activate the background script! You may wonder how this is done, so here goes: one of the very first things you notice is the fact that each time you load a new game, or a save the advisor pops up as soon as you click a city, or attempt to construct/recruit anything. When you click his face, an text message should appear saying "Welcome to" and so forth. Then, if the message has appeared you should click the 'show-me-how' button (the blackboard-like icon) to activate the background script. When you do this all scripted features of EB are enabled, such as four seasons per year, reforms, and special events. Also, this will prevent the advisor from reappearing every single time you attempt to build, recruit or basically 'do something'.

Known thingies:
1) Some people experience a sort of 'loop' i.e. the advisor still returns after activating the script. Possibly you did not activate the script, but dismissed the advisor instead; possibly it's the old script settings interferring with the new ones. In any case this can be solved by 're-activating' the script, which is done exactly in the same way.
2) Some people find all their 'government' (if you're new to EB; EB has certain special buildings called goverments) buildings 100% damaged. This might be caused by old script settings interferring with the new ones. It is recommended to quit RTW without saving your game; and then re-starting RTW. This issue only occurs if a player has first played a campaign with one faction; then quit that game and loaded a saved game featuring a different faction of choice - all in the same 'session' of RTW.
3) Some people experience a crash to desktop, or CTD for short, upon loading EB; and others experience a flickering main menu. At the time this was written, we do not yet know why this happens (it only happens with a minority of the people who play EB, for by far the most people EB shows up just fine); but a number of solutions are known and listed here:
Install Validation (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93236)

The solution fixing it for most is perhaps this:
a) Right click the EB shortcut on your desktop
b) In the context menu (the new menu that should've appeared by now) go to "Properties"
c) Change the arguments in the target line from:

-mod:eb -show_err to:
-mod:eb -show_err -nm
The -nm switch tells the RTW engine to disable all movies. Note that this also disables the Intro movies to the campaigns that have them.
If this still does not solve your problem; you are very much encouraged to follow this guide (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93236) and post the test results in a thread of your own in this subforum.
4) With certain types of graphics cards the trees on the campaign map may suddenly appear to have a cotton-like texture. This is due to the fact that the RTW engine itself is not fully compatible with all kinds of graphics cards. (In this case: the tree sprites are not rendered properly.) The issue is also known as 'snow in Arabia'.
5) Loading an 'Autosave' game may result in a (temporarily) distorted graphical representation of the game's current season. EB uses three 'Summers' (Spring, Summer and Fall to be more precise) and one 'Winter': this issue makes one such 'Summer' appear as a 'Winter'.
6) EB is known to be far more resource consuming than basic RTW. It is not unusual for people with limitted RAM to wait up to 10 minutes to get to the main menu; and neither is it unusual for campaign & battle loading times to see a significant increase as well. That said, there have been reports of people who play EB just fine with exact such limitted hardware power; and therefore it is hard to pinpoint the exact combination of PC specifications that cause the lag. For the main part it is related to the amount of RAM you have, combined with graphics card specifications.

Let me know when more screenshots are needed, and I'll see what I can do.

gran_guitarra
04-05-2007, 05:00
I need help installing this mod.
I tried what you said to do. I have a clean installation of Rome Total War (1.5) and Barbarian Invasion (1.6). I downloaded the v0.81a from the EB site, and followed the instructions from the installer. I told the computer to install it into a copy of the Rome Total War folder.
Everything worked well and the file installed just fine. The problem is that whenever I try to open it the computer locks up at the loading screen and I have to use control-alt-delete to bring up the task manager and end the process. Nothing else works except shutting down the computer manually from the CPU.
I've tried downloading several times, uninstalling and reinstalling the mod, installing directly into the original Rome Total War directory and none of those has worked. The only thing I have left to try is uninstall and reinstall Rome Total War and Barbarian Invasion then patch them up to 1.5 and 1.6 respectively, but first I have to uninstall EB (again), which will take about an hour, and then do that, and finally re-download EB, and try to install it into the Rome Total War folder (I'll try a copy first, and if it doesn't work again I'll try it in the original Rome Total War folder).

Any help would be readily appreciated, and if I am doing anything wrong with the installation please tell me so, as I probably missed it myself. I will write down everything that happens while the installation is occuring (with times and everything) so that if anything happens I can give a step-by-step guide to what I did, how I did it, and for how long it went on. Hopefully I can solve this, since this mod looks awesome and vanilla RTW just seems too unrealistic to me.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
04-05-2007, 05:51
The initial load screem may take a long time to load.
Just wait and it will come.
If you wait more than ten minutes and nothing happens, then you may have a problem...

gran_guitarra
04-05-2007, 19:08
I gave the game about seven and a half minutes and it did nothing. When I brought the task manager up it showed the game as not responding, instead of running, which is what I should get if its still loading.
I'm going to try to uninstall and reinstall the game and mod, but have little hope for success.
Like I said, I'll keep a step by step log (with times) so that if it fails I can give a detailed account and know what I'm doing wrong. Sorry to bother you guys, but this is my last ditch atempt and I'm very desperate to fix this.

gran_guitarra
04-07-2007, 04:11
In the words of Muradin Bronzebeard "NOW I'M P***ED!!!".


Okay, I uninstalled the Rome Total War AND Barbarian Invasion Folders and deleted everything to do with them. Then I uninstalled EB and made sure there were no residual files left over. I made VERY sure of this. Then I re-installed Rome Total War, and checked the version. I have the RTW Gold Edition, which was patched to 1.5 out of the box. Having done this I proceeded to the Europa Barbarorum website and downloaded the mod from them. Then I opened the installer and proceeded to install the Europa Barbarorum modification on the SAME EXACT FOLDER I HAD INSTALLED RTW, not a copy of it, but THE EXACT SAME FOLDER. After it had installed I had the install shortcut and FAQ left over, so I decided to delete them. I deleted the FAQ successfully, but the installer wouldn't let me delete it. I got a message saying that something/one else was using it and would not allow me to delete the file. After This I had to shut down the computer because I was going out. When I returned I turned the computer on and found (as usual) that I could delete the installer file. Then I decided (knowing I would fail) to try out Europa Barbarorum and see if it could work. After three minutes the loading screen did not change (the medieval2 loading screen takes me less than a minute, and that is a much larger game (9gigs)), so I decided to Alt-Tab and try to bypass the loading screen that way (as I have seen mentioned that I could), but after one minute this would not work. I decided to bring up the task manager which took about a minute or so to come (though the monitor background was stuck on the EB loading screen). Then I ordered the computer to terminate the EB process (which for some reason showed up as RTW on the task manager instead of EB), which took inordinately long.

After that I decided to uninstall EB for possibly the last time and officially start to hate Europa Barbarorum for eternity or until someone comes up with a fix for my problem.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
04-07-2007, 05:40
Three minutes isn't really that long of a time to wait for EB, especially for the initial load (RTW has to create some files the first time you start EB and it will take a while longer). If you are willing, I would suggest starting EB and letting it load for a long time. Go watch TV or something and come back in a half hour. If it hasn't loaded, then I'm pissed too.

Out of curiousity, what is your computer stats (specifically processor speed & RAM)?

gran_guitarra
04-07-2007, 07:35
Yeah, sorry Tellos Athenaios. I know you're trying to help and that I haven't been very grateful about it.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus, I have 1.9 Ghz processor, and 512 RAM. All right, I'll try that (have to do the whole process all over again), just as soon as CA gets back to me on how to fix RTW, which apparently cannot be uninstalled even by the CA uninstaller provided.
As soon as I get a message on how to fix RTW on my computer I'll try that. Sorry, but it blew up in my face about a half hour ago, and now nothing I've tried has worked, and indeed some of the things I've tried have made it worse. I'm going to go check the vanilla Rome forums to see if there is a remedy for my woes there. If not I have to trust in CA and their help/support team.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
04-07-2007, 08:44
NP, everyone gets angry sometimes. Especially when something that should work doesn't.

You can't uninstall RTW, or you can't reinstall because it didn't uninstall correctly? In either case you probably have to manually uninstall. If you want/need to do that, try looking up 'manual uninstall' and/or 'registry files' in the official TotalWar troubleshooting forum. I had to do that once and at the time there was a detailed thread saying how to do that.

If this in not your problem, good luck with it, whatever it is...

Tellos Athenaios
04-07-2007, 15:05
Hey! I've got 1024MB RAM, yet for me it takes about 5 mins to get to the main menu. My CPU is dual core 1.82 GHz not much less then yours in terms of speed. Oh, and never ever trust your Task Manager - the two reliable things about it are Performance & Process tabs. Windows just thinks that RTW isn't responding eventhough it is in fact busy as hell asking just about everything from your PC it can get. And at the last: EB isn't a different program, it's RTW running in a different way - so that's why you won't see any process called "EB".

gran_guitarra
04-07-2007, 16:51
All Right. Thanks for the info Tellos. Once I've fixed my problems with RTW I'll try that.


btw, MarcusAurelianusAntoninus, the problem is that apparently during the first uninstall the computer did not have access to the RTW.exe file, which did not delete. When I reinstalled it the cd did not reinstall the RTW.exe file, which was still left over from the first installation. The real problem comes from the fact that apparently the files do not interact with each other, so I have all the RTW files on my computer, but the .exe file cannot be accessed. Whenever I try I get the message that the computer cannot access it because I am not rated to access it (I am logged as an admin), or someone else is using it on the computer (only one logged on).

Now when I try to reinstall it I get the message that either the disk is full or write protected (not sure what it means), and cannot overwrite the file/path/device with the appropriate one.The it says I must make sure I have access to it and no one else is using the file.

btw, I checked the totalwarfuroms.com site and the only topic with my problem (or an incredibly similar one) was blank, with nothing helpful.
Basically I cannot reinstall right because the .exe file and a few others would not uninstall and now the installshield cannot install those files with the RTW files because it is not allowed to overwrite them.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
04-08-2007, 00:38
Is your RomeTW.exe set to "Read-only"?
(right click it sto see if that box is checked)

Boyar Son
04-08-2007, 00:56
Is your RomeTW.exe set to "Read-only"?
(right click it sto see if that box is checked)

Ooh I hate read only, cant delete those.

gran_guitarra
04-08-2007, 04:17
Okay, finally got the RTW thing fixed. Apparently the RTW uninstaller and the Windows uninstaller are not the same (I did not realize this), and the RTW one is not authorized to remove the RTW.exe file, along with a few others.
Also finally got EB to work, but I have no idea how. It loaded in two minutes (which is wierd because I'd given it 7 minutes the other time). The patron Saint of computers decided to take pity on me. The only diference is that I didn't delete the EB FAQ off the bat this time.

Sorry to have bothered you. This has been the wierdest of experiences on my computer. (and I'm counting the time it crashed downloading a DoW patch, even though it had about 600 extra megs (lost everything), and the out of body conversations I have with a friend of mine).

Sorry to have bothered you, but even though it worked I'm still stumped as to how, since I did nothing different, had a clean RTW1.5 before, and this time it loaded in less time than it had before. I'm stumped and slightly freaked out about this. I think my computer hates me.


Sorry to have made such a fuss about this guys.

pockettank
04-08-2007, 06:30
i followed everything u said but everytime i download it, it comes up with a symbol like a piece of paper with a mozilla firefox symbol on it and pulls up the internet if i click on it... why's that?:inquisitive:

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
04-08-2007, 08:48
gran_guitarra,
Good to hear. Have fun playing EB.
(I wish I knew what you did too. So if anyone else has the same problem. Oh well, good luck!)

pockettank,
What pulls up the internet? The download link? Then downloaded installer? The EB shortcut?
(If the installer, I think something like that will happen if it is a corrupt download, IIRC.)

Tellos Athenaios
04-08-2007, 15:53
Did you download the Torrent? Because the only thing you will receive if you don't have a proper bittorent client stuff (I don't know anything about it, never used it), would be the file which contains all the info the software needs to actually download the file you wanted. In other words: don't use torrent if you don't have a bittorent client. And thus: download directly from the FTP.

Secondly your PC may have decided to go into stand by mode: in which case it would have closed all (Internet) connections, and thus disrupted the downloading process - it appears you can resume downloading with Firefox. In that case: NP.

Owen the Mighty
04-10-2007, 22:50
Hey gran_guitarra, I had the EXACT same problem the first time I installed EB (I also have Gold Edition, too)! Except for two things...

1. When I inserted the Gold Edition disc after I had installed EB, I could still play vanilla RTW...and I had to open the EB shortcut to get to the EB loading screen.

2. Although I could still play vanilla, when I did play it, the loading bar was that of the one from EB....:inquisitive: ....and when I started a Custom Battle in vanilla, as soon as the game was ready to play (loading bar at 100%), vanilla CTDed... :inquisitive: ....

When I did open EB through the shortcut, I waited 32 minutes (:furious3: ) for EB to load at the title screen...but nothing happened....

When I installed the 1.5 version of RTW, it was installed to "C:/Program Files/The Creative Assembly/Rome: Total War". Then, when I was installing EB, it wanted to install to "C:/Program Files/Activision/Rome: Total War"......so I changed it to the previous folder, as nothing existed in the Activision folder....in fact, the folder didn't exist. So maybe changing the folder directory was apart of the problem? Whatever it was, I hope it won't happen with my new computer, as I am thouroughly enjoying EB, so if anyone knows a solution to this problem, please help gran_guitarra and myself out.

Thanks again:2thumbsup:

Tellos Athenaios
04-10-2007, 23:22
2. Although I could still play vanilla, when I did play it, the loading bar was that of the one from EB....:inquisitive: ....and when I started a Custom Battle in vanilla, as soon as the game was ready to play (loading bar at 100%), vanilla CTDed... :inquisitive: ....

When I did open EB through the shortcut, I waited 32 minutes (:furious3: ) for EB to load at the title screen...but nothing happened....

When I installed the 1.5 version of RTW, it was installed to "C:/Program Files/The Creative Assembly/Rome: Total War". Then, when I was installing EB, it wanted to install to "C:/Program Files/Activision/Rome: Total War"......so I changed it to the previous folder, as nothing existed in the Activision folder....in fact, the folder didn't exist. So maybe changing the folder directory was apart of the problem? Whatever it was, I hope it won't happen with my new computer, as I am thouroughly enjoying EB, so if anyone knows a solution to this problem, please help gran_guitarra and myself out.



1) The Vanilla bar .tga file is overwritten by EB, that's why you see that bar when playing Vanilla too.
2) Changing the folder direction should not make any difference: in fact I changed the destination path for my own build and it works fine.
3) You may want to check which version of EB you installed. For example, the .81a patch is known to simply uninstall EB in some occasions, whereas the 0.81a full installer should always work properly when used properly (see post 1 in this thread).

Owen the Mighty
04-10-2007, 23:29
Thanks for your answers, Tellos, but I have checked my copy of EB (I downloaded it from my friend's house, and then burned it onto a disc) and it is the 0.81a Full Installer. Maybe it was a simple technical hardware glitch, as my old computer was not la creme de la creme....

Afro Thunder
04-12-2007, 03:55
This might seem like a dumb question, but I'll give it a shot anyway. If I have just Player1's Bug-Fixer program installed as a mod, do I have to still do a complete uninstall, or will those files just get overwritten? Does the clean status just refer to not having any major mods on board, or does it literally mean absolutely clean and un-tampered with?

Kull
04-12-2007, 06:38
This might seem like a dumb question, but I'll give it a shot anyway. If I have just Player1's Bug-Fixer program installed as a mod, do I have to still do a complete uninstall, or will those files just get overwritten? Does the clean status just refer to not having any major mods on board, or does it literally mean absolutely clean and un-tampered with?

I suspect you could install EB on top of that build (assuming it's RTW v1.5) and it would work fine. We ask people to go with the COMPLETELY clean build because if you start having problems and report them to the team without mentioning the other installed mod, and it's something we've never heard of.....well, we'll spend time and energy trying to track down a problem that might not be related to EB at all.

And remember, when I say "we", that means actual people spending hours at the keyboard, running through different scenarios.

Afro Thunder
04-12-2007, 13:13
Hmm, I think I messed up somewhere. I just had a CTD when I tried to start up a campaign. Time for a reinstall, it seems.

Antiochus Eupator
04-16-2007, 04:55
Im trying to install this and i might write for help.

Antiochus Eupator
04-16-2007, 05:15
As requested I post this guide I wrote for another thread as a thread of it's own,

Note: step 1 t/m 3 are optional, provided that you have a clean, that is unmodified copy of RTW, patched to 1.5. In other words: you have a version 1.5 of RTW that contains neither any traces of other mods, nor any modifications of your own. In which case step 4 refers to your clean RTW 1.5 build



Let me know when more screenshots are needed, and I'll see what I can do.
Hey I still cant get this game installed every time i install it and i click rome total war to play it it goes to milked total war help!!!!!!!!!!:wall:

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
04-16-2007, 05:48
Huh?
Milked help?

bovi
04-16-2007, 12:17
I think he refers to vanilla RTW. Which might be milk to the EB cream :clown:.

You need to install EB in the same directory as RTW. Then you must use the shortcut placed on your desktop to play EB, rather than the RTW shortcut.

Tomik
04-19-2007, 10:53
Hi, I have unofficial (non-original) version of RTW. Are there any differences? Do I have to crack the game before patching? When I was playing RTR 6, I just installed clean RTW, patched with 1.2, installed RTR, restarted PC and than created image. It ran well, but i don`t know, how to do it with EB. Please help, thanks.

Tellos Athenaios
04-19-2007, 12:19
Well: install clean RTW, patch it to 1.3, to 1.5, install EB using the EB 0.81a Full installer... seems the logical thing to do to me.

I hope "unofficial (non-original)" means: "modified" - thus you have installed RTW and intstalled a mod/ a patch on top of it.

Tomik
04-20-2007, 07:54
Ok, I am starting with installation. Do I have to crack the RTW after install or patching with 1.5?

Tomik
04-20-2007, 11:14
Tellos, I followed your instructions. Installed my copied version of RTW, then patched with 1.3 and 1.5 (did not cracked the game all the time) and after that installed EB 0.81a. When I started the game (EB shortcut), the screen displayed the Rome logo for a moment, got black and returned to desktop with message like "Please insert the correct CD-ROM and restart application" (specific when starting game without crack). So I tried to copy the crack from my vanilla RTW - after start appeared loading screen (for EB, I think) and immediately returned to desktop with no effect.

When I was playing Rome Total Realism 6 (installation was similar), some guys send me link with .mds file, to create image of RTR disc (because there was the same problem with returning to desktop after start). Does anybody have something like that for playing with non-original RTW game? Thanks a lot.

Tellos Athenaios
04-20-2007, 20:58
I must warn you, Tomik, that EB doesn't support "cracked" RTW. My fault, if you thought otherwise, because I responded to your first post. :shame: (Which was a bit of an oversight. :shame: Again.)


Anyway, even if EB did support cracks, we couldn't help you since AFAIK none of us uses a cracked RTW.

The only thing I can suggest now, is to spend $5,- / €5,- / whatever, and get yourself a LEGAL copy of RTW. Then follow instructions in post 1, and you should be able to run EB properly.

Please do not feel in any way offended at me asking this, but please don't continue posting questions or comments regarding your cracked version here.

Tomik
04-22-2007, 09:18
OK, I am very sorry. I will buy original game as soon as I can and then come back :-) Thank you Tellos.

rcmaniac24
05-02-2007, 23:33
i have totally given up on trying to mod rtw because i can't really understand read me and the isntallation guide didn't help either, i can get to the last parts of it but then it gets like real vague and i don't understand it

bovi
05-02-2007, 23:49
Please tell us which part is vague and needs further elaboration. I assume you mean part 4? Which words are vague and hard to understand?

Tellos Athenaios
05-04-2007, 00:34
Hope part 4 is all clear now, edited the guide significantly (splitted step 4 into 4, 5, 6 and 7). And I did a reinstall of my copy of EB to do the edit... :sweatdrop:

bovi
05-04-2007, 07:35
That's certainly a lot more detail. Good work, Tellos! Again, if anyone has trouble understanding the current instructions, please be very specific when asking about it.

Ezephkiel
05-07-2007, 17:13
Hi,

just tryed installing this mod a few times now, this is what ive done and its not working.

Removed all traces of RTW and EB from previous attempts.

Installed RTW (Version 1.0)

Installed 1.3 patch

Installed 1.5 Patch

Downloaded and installed EB081a-full to the same directory.

I get the EB FAQ and the Shortcut Icon on the desktop, when i double click the shortcut it browses for the file RomeTW.exe, ive directed it to that file and its opened RTW and nothing has changed, no sign of the mod at all (unless im really missing something)

Cheers for any help.

Tellos Athenaios
05-07-2007, 17:35
:gah2: Looks very unpleasant. Well, first thing to check: 1) you did make a copy of your RTW install beforehand, didn't you...? 2) Check your RTW folder and look for a folder called "EB". 3) Check your target line of your shortcut.
IIRC, something like this:
"folder you installed RTW to\Rome Total War.exe" -mod:EB -nm -show_err as target line, starting in:
"folder you installed RTW to\"

But the browsing thingy, that kinda worries me...
4) Check your RTW install, make sure you do have the exe there and working properly...
5) Check your download. Look at the screenshot witht the details on the file in the Guide... and verify yours has the same size.

Should this checking thing be too much for you... there's always the solution of reinstalling everything RTW & EB...

Ezephkiel
05-07-2007, 17:57
Cheers for the reply.

Ok, ive checked a few things, the size of the EB download i got is 365mb when its all packaged up (if thats what you meant).


This is the target after i browsed for the .exe
"C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\RomeTW.exe" -mod:eb -nm -show_err

"C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\" -mod:eb -nm -show_err

That was it before.

When i installed EB i installed it to
C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War
and there is an EB file in there now with just a few files in.

I'll try uninstalling it all again, but ive tried it twice now with the same result and the first time i tryed it i forgot the patches. (its nothing to do with them is it, when i downloaded 1.5 it said make sure you have 1.3 if you're installed it fresh on a new install)

Cheers

Tellos Athenaios
05-07-2007, 19:18
Not sure what exactly you meant in your last post: but no you have to patch before installing EB.

bovi
05-07-2007, 23:26
Please verify that after installing EB, your RTW folder looks similar to this one. Please ignore the red circle, it was used to point out something else to someone else. Instead, note the EB folder.
https://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5170/ebdirsd6.jpg

Ezephkiel
05-08-2007, 07:19
Hmm mine only has

data
eb
Miles
preferences
saves
gamespy
gamespy arcade
icon
mss32.dll
rome tw 1.3 patch readme
RomeTW.exe

I'll try reinstalling again tonight and concentrate on where its being installed too.

bovi
05-08-2007, 09:20
Oh, I didn't install Gamespy, and the temp folder is likely not important. It looks like you've installed it right... But please try again nevertheless.

Tellos Athenaios
05-08-2007, 11:25
:idea2: The fact that you don't have the Docs file folder seems to point to a possible solution: run your EB installer, if it asks you what to do select "uninstall". If it does not then you've been uninstalling, rather than installing the attempt before. And of course install EB after that.

Ezephkiel
05-08-2007, 19:26
Its working now, thanks for the advice.

It was the directory path on installing EB, was activision\rome total war, and mines in creative assembley\rome total war, didn't think they would be different.

Cheers

Tellos Athenaios
05-08-2007, 20:10
^^ :whip:

Why do you think I wrote "the exact same" ? :inquisitive:

Otherwise good to hear it's working! :balloon3:

I Am Herenow
05-08-2007, 20:33
Edit

Tellos Athenaios
05-08-2007, 20:42
:gah2: That's the one slip up there.

Fixed now.

CorvusCorax
05-17-2007, 19:29
When it asks for destination folder, fill in the exact same folder, as the one which you installed RTW in. You can do this by typing the entire path, or by left clicking "Browse": and select the folder of your clean RTW 1.5 (similar to selecting a picture from file to insert in Word, however this time you select your RTW 1.5 file folder instead of the "picture"). In my case the path ended up like this:....
....path... And breathe... However, this time the "adress" (destination/ installation path are other ways to describe the same stuff) is that of your clean RTW 1.5.



That is from step 5 of your tips - the installation process.

I am slightly confused by this.
So, when you start running the installation it will ask for destination. Do i select my copied rtw folder or my original (both are clean, patched to 1.5)

Then, you say it will ask for destination again. You said "However", implying that it is different from the one i chose first time??

Could you clarify this for me - you say install in the clean RTW 1.5 folder twice, but put a however before the second time, maybe meaning it is different??

Thanks :)


(just a note - "adress" is "address" :P )

bovi
05-17-2007, 21:08
Any of them, really. You select the one of those which you want to have EB in. The main thing is to make sure it's a folder where RomeTW.exe is.

CorvusCorax
05-18-2007, 09:16
thanks

got it installed fine :)

looking forward to playing very much

incredible work

the greek
05-27-2007, 17:32
i installed it with the right patch and stuff then when i click on the shortcut it comes on then says a file is missing:wall: :furious2:

bovi
05-27-2007, 19:14
Are you absolutely certain that you installed in the correct folder? Please try again, and if it's still the same problem try to download the 0.81a V2 full installer instead.

Tellos Athenaios
05-27-2007, 19:27
You said "However", implying that it is different from selecting a file, picture, document. Btw, I wrote a "clarify the guide between brackets" line... so :inquisitive:





(just a note - "adress" is "address" :P )

And that from someone who basically just admitted he ... ! :laugh4: ~;) Gotta fix it, I suppose... :whip:

EDIT: And done.

Ancyrean
05-31-2007, 10:34
Just installed the update patch for 0.81a-V2 over 0.81a (put the installer where my RTW.exe is, run it; it prompted me to confirm the overwriting of certain files, I went along).

Everything works fine but just a quick question: When I fire up EB, the opening screen says it's version 0.81.a. I guess the update patch adds no particular indication of V2 there. Am I correct about this or did I do something wrong about the patch installation? ~:)

bovi
05-31-2007, 12:47
The screen is not updated, everything is fine.

jmac1022
06-01-2007, 02:18
hey im a newb at RTW and EB...i'm just having some issues with the campaign map. when i start a new campaign the graphics on the campaign map are really crude. The army character is all brown with no detail and the symbols on the flags are blurred and the terrain looks really bad. My computer is brand new (just got it issued last semester) and it worked fine with regular RTW can anyone help me?

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
06-01-2007, 04:53
Like this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=82667
?

bovi
07-08-2007, 17:47
You could add to point 4:


Some people have got corrupted downloads and had to download it again. If you have problems installing and suspect this may be it, you can make sure that your file is intact by running an MD5 checksum on it, for instance using FastSum (http://www.fastsum.com/support/md5-checksum-utility-faq/md5-checksum.php). The checksum should be 8F70DD15C5A471995682BA3610DDE263. If not, you'll have to download again.

Tellos Athenaios
07-08-2007, 18:04
And done.

Thanks Bovi! :2thumbsup:

Horst Nordfink
07-11-2007, 09:20
I'd just like to say congratulations and thanks to all involved in this post!

If it enabled me, someone is often heroically inept in computer matters, to succesfully install EB at the first time of asking it truly is an exceptionally helpful post.

Thanks!

Jacob Debroedere
07-14-2007, 17:47
A few weeks ago I tried to download EB mod for my RTW gold edition. The downloading and installation proces went fine,but when I clicked the EB shortcut on my desktop it said it couldn't find the files.

After some searching(with that little flashlight icon) it found something and my game seemed to launch.I noticed it had the same loading screen as plain RTW, and I had the feeling that something was not right.

The EB link just brought me to normal RTW(but without my saved games,so I guess it was my backup version).Am I the only one facing this problem?How could I solve it?

I removed all EB downloads from my computer, and I made all factions playable(I changed the files myself,I didn't used one of those 'make all factions playable' mods.

Now I want to download EB again, but I need to know what I did wrong the first time so I don't make the same mistake. By the way,should I change the RTW faction files back to normal,or remove and reinstall RTW?

Tellos Athenaios
07-14-2007, 17:54
First of all you could check the part about installing EB. Meticulously. Very.
It seems as if you installed EB not on top of your RTW build, but somewhere else, hence the shortcut points to a nonexistent executable.

IT IS PARAMOUNT to succesfully installing EB that you point the EB installer to the EXACT SAME LOCATION as THAT OF YOUR RTW.EXE

Hope this solves your issues,

automatic4thepeople
07-26-2007, 04:17
Help! Okay, so i installed it, and everything, and it couldnt find the rometw.exe. So I searched for it, and found it was in the same file. I restarted my computer, and then it said it could not read EB081av2. It automatically opened it up with picture and fax! So I decided to open it up with Rome Total War, but it does nothing! Any suggestions?(I hope I can get this to run, this game looks AWESOME!)

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
07-26-2007, 09:23
Help! Okay, so i installed it, and everything, and it couldnt find the rometw.exe. So I searched for it, and found it was in the same file. I restarted my computer, and then it said it could not read EB081av2. It automatically opened it up with picture and fax! So I decided to open it up with Rome Total War, but it does nothing! Any suggestions?(I hope I can get this to run, this game looks AWESOME!)
You have installed EB to the incorrect directory. The default install path in the installer doesn't go to the right place for everyone. Note the file that vanilla RTW is in. Uninstall EB (this may seem to freeze, give it time), then reinstall EB. When it asks where to install it to, put in the location of RTW on your system. The most common paths are:

"C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\"
"C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\" and
"C:\Program Files\SEGA\Rome - Total War\"

Tellos Athenaios
07-26-2007, 10:43
When it asks where to install it to, put in the location of RTW on your system. The most common paths are:

"C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\"
"C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\" and
"C:\Program Files\SEGA\Rome - Total War\"

Oh, and please note that "Most Common" is not equal to "Your path, guaranteed". First thing to do would be to check where you installed your copy of RTW to.

Quite a few people seem to mix that bit up, so I though better to remind in case you'd do the same... No? ~;)

automatic4thepeople
07-26-2007, 18:20
First of all, I'm suprised at how fast i got an answer! I've uninstalled my game and I'm reinstalling it, but I'm not sure which file to put it in. You suggested Activision, The Creative Assemblies, and Sega. Sega only has a Medieval 2 folder so I don't think that would be it. However, Activision and the Creative Assemblies both have Rome Total War folders. I'm pretty sure it would be the Creative Assemblies folder, because that one has both the icons (Rome and Barbarian invasion) and Gamespy (and saves), and the Activision one has saves and preferences. I just need confirmation before I put my EB in Creative Assemblies, because I don't want to be wrong and have to uninstall it and reinstall it again!

Foot
07-26-2007, 18:23
First of all, I'm suprised at how fast i got an answer! I've uninstalled my game and I'm reinstalling it, but I'm not sure which file to put it in. You suggested Activision, The Creative Assemblies, and Sega. Sega only has a Medieval 2 folder so I don't think that would be it. However, Activision and the Creative Assemblies both have Rome Total War folders. I'm pretty sure it would be the Creative Assemblies folder, because that one has both the icons (Rome and Barbarian invasion) and Gamespy (and saves), and the Activision one has saves and preferences. I just need confirmation before I put my EB in Creative Assemblies, because I don't want to be wrong and have to uninstall it and reinstall it again!

Your activision folder is an old install. You should install it into the same directory that has the RomeTW.exe, which will be "Creative Assembly/Rome - Total War/" (if you haven't changed the name of it).

Foot

Tarkus
07-26-2007, 21:36
My first post to the EB community -- was indoctrinated to the RTW experience about six months ago as I started an ultimately successful Roman campaign in RTR 6.3 and am now ready to take the EB plunge! Am really looking forward to enjoying this mod.

I just wanted to let y'all know that I was able to install EB 0.81a_v2 with no problems...excellent instructions, Tellos! In addition, for the record I was able to successfully install without making a full copy of the RTW folder to an EB subfolder...I wiped my RTR install and then reinstalled a clean and patched RTW, figuring the full copy to a separate folder would facilitate playing more than one mod over time simultaneously (am I right on this one?). I don't want to muddy the waters here with this observation, but wanted to show that this doesn't seem to be a hard and rast requirement for a successful EB install.

Anyway, I've just started a Romani campaign and haven't seen any problems yet. This really does look like an outstanding mod...MANY THANKS to all of you for giving us such a great historical sim!

And for those of you having install troubles: Hang in there, don't get too frustrated, and follow the instructions EXACTLY!

Tellos Athenaios
07-26-2007, 21:48
You're entirely correct. We recommend the back up only to prevend compatibiltiy issues with other mods, since EB still does overwrite some files of the Vanilla install (apart from adding many more in the separate EB subfolder in your RTW directory.

Thanks for the feedback, and... Enjoy! :balloon2:

Geoffrey S
08-09-2007, 23:35
However EB fails to address its biggest problem, the download, it is very slow and at present you cannot download the mod from its Official web page, only the down load of screensavers and links to other related website is given. EB admits there have been many download problems from its website and suggest “Accordingly, if you follow these instructions EXACTLY, you should not have a problem:” they have also made a ‘Technical Support Forum’ with ‘A guide to install EB, screenshots provided’ again it fails to please with poor screen shots.
Just spotted this on the Wikipedia site. Figured someone might want to change that.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
08-10-2007, 00:55
Just spotted this on the Wikipedia site. Figured someone might want to change that.
Wow, that's mean (and very exagerated).

Elkdridge
08-19-2007, 21:09
"In my case the path ended up like this:
Next, click "OK". Depending on your PC specs, things are going to take a while. It takes my PC (1024MB RAM; 1,8Ghz duo core processor) so much time, I can 'safely' start watching a movie and ignore my PC till the first comercial break. Now, when your PC is finally done with the "OK" thingy the screen will look similar as to when your first had to insert the installation path... And breathe... However, this time the "address" (destination/ installation path are other ways to describe the same stuff) is that of your clean RTW 1.5. In my case that was this (see also the screenie above): "

Im not to sure about this part in step 5. Previously i had to direct the installation onto the original RTW folder. Is step 5 now telling me to direct it onto the other copied backup version?or am i directing it to the same old rtw folder that i saved over at the beginning of step 5? Sorry if this sounds confusing but I am confused a bit . :help:

Tellos Athenaios
08-19-2007, 21:59
Litterally they would refer to the same file folder. However, your back up of your clean RTW 1.5 should work as well.

Tellos Athenaios
08-19-2007, 22:05
Updated the guide, to remove that source of possible confusion. Thanks for bringing it up. :2thumbsup:

Elkdridge
08-20-2007, 09:54
So i install it to the original RTW folder that i used for the the first destination? Sorry about pestering, but i just wanna make the installation work first time round without any slip ups. That and im a tad slow in the brain department :dizzy2:

bovi
08-20-2007, 13:11
You can install it in whichever of the two folders you like. The point is to keep a copy of the clean RTW installation so that you don't have to reinstall everything again if you decide to get another mod.

Elkdridge
08-20-2007, 15:03
Thanks alot! :beam:

Pooptrooper
08-21-2007, 07:16
What is the hard drive requirement just to get the installation files unloaded?

bovi
08-21-2007, 09:26
A bit more than 1 GB I think. Unfortunately you cannot control where they are unpacked, so they normally end up on your system disk. If you have a minimal disk to contain only your OS, like me, you may be better off opening the installer with 7-zip and extracting the files that way.

Blood_Of_Cu_Chulainn
08-24-2007, 05:42
Ok i did everything step by step, install a fresh RTW GOLD File, download the EB program, installed it in a copied vanilla folder of RTW GOLD(v1.5) after all that i start to load the game up, i see the copy right and trade mark display screen come up and it does nothing, im sitting here for 20 minutes to an hour waiting for this game to start but its still on that screen, am i missing something here or what, i have no problem playing RTW and BI, even the new MTW, but the EB game wont start, i been wracking my mind about it the last 3 days, :help:

bovi
08-24-2007, 06:02
A couple of suggestions off the bat: Perhaps you are not using the EB shortcut, but the regular RTW exe or shortcut? In the task manager, does RomeTW.exe spend a lot of CPU or is it just sitting there? If you install FileMon you can see more detailed the activities of the game starting up and see where it stops.

A moderator may perhaps make a new thread out of this.

Blood_Of_Cu_Chulainn
08-24-2007, 06:36
well the shortcut works it will load the intro screen of EB but it wont do anything,

bovi
08-24-2007, 07:00
In the task manager, does RomeTW.exe spend a lot of CPU or is it just sitting there? If you install FileMon you can see more detailed the activities of the game starting up and see where it stops.
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Blood_Of_Cu_Chulainn
08-24-2007, 18:29
i got it to work, i tried installing the temp fixes, restart the computer and everything ....load EB up and it took me to the game menu, so i played a game or two to make sure there its running correctly, so far so good, this mod is more interesting than RTR, but then again all total war games Own

thanks for the help though, ~:cheers:

bovi
08-24-2007, 18:44
That's good, but keep in mind that the temporary fixes will disable some functionality (particularly the trait file nerf). You should try to get it to work with the regular files.

Swiss Halberd Pike Landsknecht
09-10-2007, 13:40
sorry to ask

but I'm very confused

I've got RTW Anthology,

installed it all, and now patched to 1.5

I tried to install it, and kept the install folder to the RTW folder (didn't change it) as it was a clean install

after it installed I restarted the pc, and double clicked on the EB icon on the destop, BUT it said it couldn't find the file?!!!

so I'm not sure where to install EB to then? I read the instructions but I'm still confused

bovi
09-10-2007, 13:59
If you go to your RTW directory using Windows Explorer, you should be able to see both RomeTW.exe and a folder called EB. If there is no EB folder there, you installed into the wrong directory. I'm pretty sure you did. If there is no EB folder there, copy the full path you're in, and paste that as the installation path for EB when you do it again.

The Anthology version may install into another directory than the default EB installation directory, you see. You need to be absolutely sure they match.

Swiss Halberd Pike Landsknecht
09-10-2007, 14:43
thanks

It was actually my mistake, as I didn't see where it was installing to (the folder didn't exist before and originally had no RTW.exe)

but before going on the forum again, I uninstalled EB and reinstalled it, this time to the proper clean RTW folder (and made sure thats where the RTW was)

and now it works

I've been very busy the last few weeks and next few weeks with work, but when its over I should have lots of fun playing the campaigns for RTW, BI, Alexander & EB (as well as more MTW Gold & M2TW)

I was told on another thread I should download the 2 perm fixes
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=82256

Pahlava & traits

I guess I'll put them where it says I should, and hopefully there won't be any problems

also I guess there is no problems me starting a new campaign in vanilla RTW, and saving the campaigns, and also starting a campaign in EB and saving as well (hopefully no conflict)

bovi
09-10-2007, 14:50
Those permanent fixes increase stability, although most will play full campaigns with unmodded 0.81aV2 and not experience a crash. Even if you don't get them installed, don't worry. If you do get a crash, you'll need to verify that you've got them though.

EB puts some files in the vanilla structure, so you may experience some change in graphics and the like. This is why we encourage making a copy of the 1.5 RTW for EB, in addition to that EB might interfere with other mods for the same reason. Vanilla should still play well though. But if you've played M2TW for a bit, you will probably not enjoy vanilla RTW much, just a warning.

Swiss Halberd Pike Landsknecht
09-10-2007, 15:17
ah OK

thanks for the info

I put the 2 perm fix txt files in the proper directories (it asked if I wanted to overwrite and I said yes)

I haven't got any other mods (this is actually the first Total War mod I've played) but hopefully everything else will be OK

EB really looks great, with a lot of factions and units,

never thought RTW would be the Total War game I'd have with the most addons, (BI, Alexander & EB)

Tellos Athenaios
10-12-2007, 14:31
Before any of you starts complaining about it. :grin:

I updated the guide! :balloon3:

FalkyMrsWilliams
10-13-2007, 23:04
If I'm using a no CD crack for RTW 1.5., EB 1.0 will run in my PC or not? Thanks guys for this release! I'm impacient to play it!

Tellos Athenaios
10-13-2007, 23:22
You'll have to ask s.o else with a Crack version. AFAIK no EB member has got one...

Metontour
10-14-2007, 14:18
Hi!

If I want to install the EB and clcik double on the installer it said:The archive is corrupted.Why do this?

bovi
10-14-2007, 14:21
You need to download it once more. If you do so by torrent you are guaranteed a valid download.

Quirinus Kuhlmann
10-14-2007, 15:26
Hello everybody,

since a few hours I am unsucessfully trying to install the EB 1.0 with growing desperation. So finally I ask for your help.
The problem is as follows:
First I tried to delete all older Versions of EB and RTW from my computer.
Then I installed a fresh Version of RTW 1.5 and made a copy
The I downloaded EB 1.0 via Torrent.
Then I started the installation. The Installation Wizard suggested, that I shold install the game into a folder called "C/.../The creative assembly/EB V.0.81final." (A folder, which does not exist on my computer anymore) By browsing I lead the the Installation to C/../The creative assembly/Rome Total war", where my RTW 1.5 is situated.
The Installation started, and after about 30 seconds an error message popped up: "An Error occured while trying to read the file C/Windows/Installer/EB081av2.msi"
Then the installation is cancelled.

I now searched for my computer for older EB Installation, which I eventually forgot to delete. In the "Systemsteuerung" (Control Panel) I found, that the EB 0.81v2a was still listed as a program. I then tried to delete it. But as the deinstaller runs, it all of a sudden stops, because "an error occured while attempting to read the file "C/windows/Installer/EB 081av2.msi"

I searched the computer for a file of this name, but didn't find it.

So, know I don't know what to do anymore. Can you please help me and safe my day?

bovi
10-14-2007, 15:32
You could search your registry for that filename. Run regedit, press Ctrl-F and type in 081av2. Delete all occurences, and possibly the folders they reside in. Then try once more to install EB.

Quirinus Kuhlmann
10-14-2007, 17:46
Thank you very much for the quick answer, Bovi!
I tried that and found some particles, which I deleted. Then I tried to install again, but now my EB-Exe from the Torrent was corrupted, just like another one, which I downloded from filefront before. Both of them were not corrupted before, so I think, maybe the particles, which I deleted in the registery, were situated inside these files.
Downloaded again and same problem occures. New File is not currupted, but the installation crashs because of EB081av2.msi. Also, still EB 0.81 resists being deleted.
I think I'll give up for the day and try again tomorrow with fresh powers.
Thanks again for trying to help.

Bonny
10-14-2007, 17:50
Thank you very much for the quick answer, Bovi!
I tried that and found some particles, which I deleted. Then I tried to install again, but now my EB-Exe from the Torrent was corrupted, just like another one, which I downloded from filefront before. Both of them were not corrupted before, so I think, maybe the particles, which I deleted in the registery, were situated inside these files.
Downloaded again and same problem occures. New File is not currupted, but the installation crashs because of EB081av2.msi. Also, still EB 0.81 resists being deleted.
I think I'll give up for the day and try again tomorrow with fresh powers.
Thanks again for trying to help.

Hallo Qurinius, du kannst die setupdatei auch mit einem zip program 7-zip entpacken, dann entfällt das registry problem.

edit:

found the dl link for it
http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_13004776.html

Quirinus Kuhlmann
10-14-2007, 18:16
Hey Bonny,

you're a real Hero for me. Unpacked the file with 7zip into the right directory, added -mod:EB -nm -show_err to the exe-zielordner and game works fine!

Vielen, vielen Dank!!!!

Tellos Athenaios
10-16-2007, 14:21
Hey, never knew that "Target" was translated with "Zielordner" in Computers? I knew about "Ziel" meaning "Target/Aim" though...

max_minimod
10-18-2007, 13:33
..."Target" was translated with "Zielordner" ...I knew about "Ziel" meaning "Target/Aim"

and folder = Ordner (the germans like to put words together to get detailed specifications :beam: )
So you could translate "Zielordner" to "target-folder".

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Centurion Crastinus
10-18-2007, 23:10
When installing, and I am supposed to be looking for my rtw 1.5 patch I can't seem to find it. I am fairly computer illiterate, so the more the explanation is dumbed down the better.

bovi
10-19-2007, 00:24
http://games.softpedia.com/get/Patch/Rome-Total-War-15-Patch.shtml

Centurion Crastinus
10-19-2007, 07:47
I was a little vague with my past post. My question was that when intalling EB 1.0, the help guide says to make sure you download EB 1.0 into the address where the 1.5 patch is located. I have downloaded the 1.5 patch already and I can't find its address during the game installation. Someone please help.

bovi
10-19-2007, 08:39
It's not to download EB there, you need to install EB there. You can download it to wherever you like.

You've got a shortcut to start vanilla Rome, right? Right-click that and select properties. There are a couple of fields here, the one you want is called Start in. That's where your RTW is installed. Copy that and paste into the EB installer when it asks you.

Centurion Crastinus
10-19-2007, 14:32
Thanks

Centurion Crastinus
10-20-2007, 04:05
Hopefully this is what you are talking about. Is this it?
C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War

bovi
10-20-2007, 08:50
Looks like it :2thumbsup:. Remember to take a backup copy of your vanilla 1.5 RTW though. You may want to install other mods sometime.

Leo ni das
10-23-2007, 09:04
Hi, I recently installed EB, followed the instructions precisely, and have managed to get it to load up to the main menu screen. My problem is that the game crashes to desktop when I try to start a new campaign after picking out all the options. I've looked all over this thread for possible answers and my suspicions were realised by Step 7 in the install guide and a later post about No CD file usage.

My problem is that I have an external DVD drive. When I try to run the game, it tells me that I have some sort of emulation programs installed (referring to my DVD drive) and that I should disable/uninstall them before playing. As a result, I'm forced to use a No CD file to play R:TW and all it's expansions (not like I'm stealing the game, I bought Total War: Eras fair and square).

Is there anything I can do about this issue that doesn't involve buying a fresh copy of R:TW (which would be a waste of money) but that involves me playing EB?

bovi
10-23-2007, 09:15
Please create your own help thread.

Leo ni das
10-23-2007, 09:20
Sorry, thank you.

Incontineta Buttox
10-26-2007, 11:36
Ok.

Please bear with me as I am totally computer illiterate. But how do I make a copy of vanilla RTW 1.5?

bovi
10-26-2007, 11:39
Please create your own help thread.

alcibiades1
11-08-2007, 03:11
Hey, this is probably a dumb question but i'm not too computer-savvy and I need some help. So I've tried to install this mod a few times and after I do, whenever I click on the newly formed EB.10 icon, a box shows up with a flashlight and tells me that it cannot find RomeTW.exe. Then if I browse and and click on the Rome TW icon that is in this folder, Rome TW just overwrites EB or something, and it launches regular Rome TW. I'm guessing that this is because i'm not installing the game into the correct folder. I've tried a number of different times in different folders, and have read the insructions on this forum, but I'm terrible with computers and just don't understand. Can someone give me easy-to-follow instructions for creating an appropriate folder and intalling EB into it, so I can finally play this game? Thanks.

bovi
11-08-2007, 10:33
Look at the two previous guys who asked in this thread. What were they told to do?

Tellos Athenaios
11-08-2007, 16:08
Shall we make a bit of statistics of FA Install Q ? I mean, yeah here we go again:

it can't find your RTW => it is installed to the wrong location. There hasn't been a single exception to this rule in all of this thread - and all of this forum too. Perhaps we should call that the Law of Location.

pavillon
11-25-2007, 18:45
Hi..

this is my first post in the forum. I have been playing EB v.082 for three months now and very much enjoying it. Everything went fine until tonight I checked this forum and it says that a newer EB v 1.0 is already out :idea2: (yeah I know... I am very late to aware that... couldnt believe how I let that happened :wall:

So I now Im ready to install EB v 1.0. Already downloaded it, took me 4 hours but I guess it'll worth :2thumbsup:

My question is: Since I installed EB v 0.82 in a copied folder of vanilla RTW (Gold Edition, patched to 1.5), can I just do the following steps in order to install EB v 1.0?

1. Uninstall current EB v.0.82

2. Delete whole copied folder of vanilla RTW which previously contained EB 0.82 (FYI I named that folder C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - EB)

3. Make a copy of the original folder of vanilla RTW again (I never do anything to the original RTW installation folder - it is absolutely a clean installation), this time it will be named C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - EBv10

4. Instal EB v 1.0 to that newly copied folder (i.e C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - EBv10)

Basically that is 4 steps that Im planning to do? So I will not unistall RTW and then reinstall it again, just unistall current EB v 082, make another copy of clean vanilla RTW from the original RTW that I still keep, and then install EB v 1.0 to that copied folder. Could somebody help me to know whether that plan would work or not, especially the part that I do not want to unistall and reinstall vanilla RTW again?

BTW, I am still in step 1 now. I am uninstalling EB v 082 from the Control Panel, and it has almost been 45 minutes until now and it is still "Gathering required information" (there is a progress bar but is is very slow, I am using Vista btw...) Is that normal, the unistallation process takes so long?

Thanks a lot, hope someone would respond to my questions; and very sorry for my bad English, I hope you could understand it though... :sweatdrop:

bovi
11-25-2007, 18:48
Your procedure should work fine. I don't know why the uninstallation takes so long though. Are you sure you're not running out of harddisk space on any of your disks?

pavillon
11-25-2007, 18:56
Hey thanks for the rapid answer Bovi! :balloon2:

I'll try my procedure once I managed to overcome step 1 problem, though :no: (see below)

I still have 24 GB out of 120 GB of my HD, so I'm pretty sure Im not running out of HD space. My RAM is 2 Gigs, anyway, in case that could be a problem.

I just cancelled the unistallation process of EB v082 coz after 1 hour the progress bar still shows approximately 10% of progress... this could takes 10 hours to complete! :dizzy2: So... do you have any suggestion how to unistall previous EB "normally"?

Thx a lo, again...

bovi
11-25-2007, 20:20
Well, it shouldn't take that long. Must be something special in your case. You can just leave it there though and install 1.0 with 7-zip. If you need further help, please make an own help thread.

Paradox
12-19-2007, 20:19
For the first three installation attempts I used Bittorrent, I made the same "Activision" instead of "CreativeAssembly" mistake. I tried installing it from FileFront and now it's worse.

Instead of this: https://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g3ry2.jpg
I get irrelevant options:

Modify

Repair

Remove

I didn't know what to do, just when I figured it out I get bad luck.

Tellos Athenaios
12-20-2007, 02:19
That's because the installer has detected you had already installed a copy of EB. In other words: you have not uninstalled at all, or you have not uninstalled through the control panel/ the installer. (EB is still registered on your system as installed, you see.)

Solution: choose 'remove'. Have a lot of patience nearby: the installer is going to remove all files it previously installed on your PC.

Then you can run the installer again (doesn't matter which one as the fault lays with the user, not the installer package...) and this time install to the right directory.

---------

There are a few other options to explore, if you wish, as well; but neither one of them will be as 'fool-proof', and 'user-friendly'. These options are - providing you have a spare back up of RTW 1.5 (which you can always create yourself)-
1) You could dump the EB folder created by the installer on top of it and readjust the shortcut to point at the right location. Downside: it will be as good as impossible to uninstall EB at a later stage using the uninstaller. And it isn't as clean regarding your registry files either (since something is registered there which doesn't actually exist anymore at the location it was supposed to be).
2) You could use 7-Zip or similarly powerful archive tool to extract the files to the right location. Readjust the shortcut as mentioned earlier. And remove the useless install of EB using the uninstaller too! Downside: this way the EB installer may 'think' there is no copy of EB installed on your PC at all.

It is probably a sound idea to defragment your harddrive after taking either approach.

I Am Herenow
12-20-2007, 15:03
Edit: as you wish :beam:

Tellos Athenaios
12-21-2007, 20:15
I'd feel almost inclined to leave that as is, see if anyone comes to ask for help about "but how then do I play 1.0?" :beam: . Ah well. See if anyone notices...

bovi
12-23-2007, 12:22
Step 6: After installing EB
Wow, you and your PC made it through! Now you can choose what you'll do next. You can read the readme file (recommended)
Perhaps this is a good place to remind people to start the background script, as those who need this guide are likely the same ones who won't know about it.


Step 6: After installing EB
Wow, you and your PC made it through! Now you can choose what you'll do next. You can read the readme file (Recommended. Pay particular notice to the starting of the background script.)

Tellos Athenaios
12-24-2007, 23:26
Yeah... Some idea. :yes:

Tellos Athenaios
12-25-2007, 00:09
:idea2: Extended.

Tellos Athenaios
01-22-2008, 20:03
Updated the guide for the benefit of people who use Vista for OS.

bovi
02-06-2008, 17:50
Please create your own help thread.
...

Some Call Me...Tim
02-08-2008, 19:23
I installed RTW gold correctly and EB correctly and I click on the EB icon, it loads, i wait...everytime after about 3-5 minutes it shuts down and sends me back to windows. Im dying to play this mod. Please help.

bovi
02-08-2008, 21:01
Please create your own help thread.
...

Tellos Athenaios
02-08-2008, 22:38
Updated the guide with the notice to create your own help thread, and something (quite possibly competely redundant) about minimods.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
02-10-2008, 00:26
Tellos, I've copied this thread over at the TWC technical forum, to help people there. Just to let you know. :bow:

Tellos Athenaios
02-10-2008, 03:43
Ok. :yes:

Good Ship Chuckle
02-17-2008, 20:15
I would just like to report that I followed all the steps in this guide, and had a successful install of EB. However, I've decided not to keep playing EB, becuase it is too unbearbly slow (not a problem do to installation, just my own impatience). Otherwise, EB is a success.

bovi
02-17-2008, 21:34
You may want to try again when you next upgrade your computer.

Tellos Athenaios
02-18-2008, 02:51
Updated the guid with a note on Steam.

AngarakaS
02-22-2008, 10:02
Just a quick thanks for an excellent guide.

As a vista user I was slightly worried it would go pear shaped giving this mod a chuck, however it went very well and I am enjoying it immensley, especially the revised map :)

Selb23
03-27-2008, 01:28
can someone please tell me why it runs really slow, i can run RTW on 'very high' but EB seems to go really slow, why is this? I am so desperate to play it, it looks freakin awsome!

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
03-27-2008, 06:43
can someone please tell me why it runs really slow, i can run RTW on 'very high' but EB seems to go really slow, why is this? I am so desperate to play it, it looks freakin awsome!
The files in EB are much larger than those in vanilla, especially the script. EB is going to always be slower than vanilla, but there are ways to help. Try searching the forums, as there have been many topics on this. Also, there is a link in the FAQ to a thread with some advice on how to help releave the lag.

Selb23
03-27-2008, 12:46
Thankyou, I think i've found the right thread but if it still runs slow could you tell me what sought of upgrade I may need for my computer i.e. Video card

bovi
03-27-2008, 18:09
That depends entirely on what hardware you currently have. RAM is a good bet though, if you don't have at least 2GB.

Selb23
03-27-2008, 23:44
Ahhh it aint too bad now and also what does the modesty patch or whatever its called actually do and is it possible to remove it?

bovi
03-28-2008, 07:34
The modesty patch makes naked units wear a loincloth. For some reason some people seem to be scared of pixellated depictions of penises, while depictions of genocide is quite alright.

You cannot uninstall the modesty patch, but you can restore the original files by extracting them from the EB installer using 7-zip (open the modesty patch installer with 7-zip to see which files are overwritten by it).

PrimusPilus
05-09-2008, 18:19
Does the same thing work for 1.1???:help:

Tellos Athenaios
05-09-2008, 23:54
Modesty patch? Yeah sure it does. If you happen to have installed the trivial script you should have a "Configuration" shortcut. If you use that one you will see a screen with all sorts of EB & RTW settings you can change, among them the option to apply the modesty patch.

thief0flives
05-12-2008, 03:33
i need a guide on how to install the rtw 1.5 patch, i cant figure it out:help:

bovi
05-12-2008, 18:22
Which part of it is difficult? You install RTW 1.0, then patch it to 1.2 (or 1.3, can't remember), and finally patch it to 1.5. If you're running RTW Gold, don't do anything after installation.

Aulus
05-13-2008, 23:20
I tried to find whether the info I need was already passed, but apparently I am the first one to get into this kind of difficulty. Here is my problem.

I recently bought Rome Total War just because I wanted to play Europa Barbarorum and not the original game itself, but in Italy, where I live, I found only RTW Gold (english version), bundled with Barbarian Invasion. The problem is that I cannot install only RTW because automatically Barbarian Invasion too is installed. In the readme file it is written that BI modifies and overwrites some of the files of RTW, so it is not possible to uninstall it because RTW would malfunction.

At this point I have four questions:

1. Can I install EB 1.1 on top of RTW INCLUDING the expansion Barbarian Invasion, or RTW+BI is to be considered a modded version so it is advisable not to install also EB 1.1?

2. If 1 is not possible, can I install the bundle, then uninstall BI and after that install EB 1.1? Meaning, will EB 1.1 further overwrite and modify the files affected by BI, so in the end everything gets OK and I can play?

3. If neither 1 nor 2 work, is there any way to get out of my fix?

4. Did I throw away the money I spent to buy RTW Gold?

Thanks for your kindness and attention

Aulus

Tellos Athenaios
05-14-2008, 04:18
It *should* work; but RTW Gold is a bit of a troublemaker for some. Just check everything is patched up properly.

Aulus
05-14-2008, 08:16
It *should* work; but RTW Gold is a bit of a troublemaker for some. Just check everything is patched up properly.

Thanks, Tellos. Are you suggesting I use solution 1, (installing EB on top of RTW+BI) or 2 (uninstalling BI and then installing EB) or both?

Thanks again

Aulus

Tellos Athenaios
05-15-2008, 16:41
I am not to familiar with BI/RTW Gold but my first thought would be to install it to <Your RomeTW folder> and run it from the usual RTW.exe. If you want BI though; I suggest you take a look around in the unofficial submods fora or browse the technical support threads -- the question 'how to run EB from BI' has been answered numerous times. And I guess it would work exactly the same regardless of whether you have bought RTW + BI as a Gold edition or as separate packs.

nevenoe
05-18-2008, 00:14
Hello people,

It's the third time I install EB 1.1, and it still doesn't work. I did everything properly, as very well explained up here.

It launches, loads, makes fine sounds and musics, but crashes without a word when I want to lauch a campain.

I appologize if there is an answer to this issue somewhere, I could not find it and I spent the last 4 hours fighting with this...:help:

EDIT : it works fine in "windows mode", but I can't really play on a half screen...

Tellos Athenaios
05-18-2008, 10:51
You can have windowed mode occupy your full screen. Just go to 'Options' > 'Video' and adjust 'Strategy' and 'Battlemap' resolution to whatever you want and your monitor can display. Be sure to apply your changes too! Otherwise these will be lost and you will be greeted by 'half' screen again next time you run EB.

Also be informed that the game's UI doesn't look good at high resolutions; and that particularly if you have a non 4:3 resolution (e.g.: 1024*768; 1600*1200) you will see a distortion (circles aren't proper circles anymore) & blurry unit/building cards and similar UI elements.

bovi
05-19-2008, 09:54
Nevenoe, you may have the same weird problem that Stone and Blood has, which is connected to the voicemods. I haven't yet been able to make a version for 1.1 that cuts out the voicemods.

In the meantime, there are many suggestions to make it work which you can find in the validation sticky. Please post a new thread for further help.

Soto
05-20-2008, 03:05
I read and followed the guide, but the game still doesn't work.

I have Rome - Total War 1.5. I installed the game as explained (windows XP), but when I click the Play icon for EB it launches normal Rome - Total War.

The game (1.5v) is installed in Program Files\Activion\etc. , but I also tried installing EB to a copy pasted version in a C:\Games folder I made, but had the same result.

Tellos Athenaios
05-20-2008, 09:35
Check the shortcut you used.

Does it say on the "Target" line : ""<Your RTW Location>\RomeTW.exe" -mod:eb ?

Whether or not it also say different things; the one thing important here is that it should read -mod:eb

Soto
05-21-2008, 00:24
So yeah I guess I didn't read that part of the guide. It works fine now. I started a campaign with the Greeks (Common Greeks) and boy is it hard.

fuglewarrior
06-12-2008, 02:20
I have an issue, when i attempt to install EB, it asks you where in your directory to put EB (supposed to be in the folder that actually holds clean 1.5) and then after it does some loading or whatnot it asks me where i want a few other files which i didnt expect and i wonder should i direct them to the same 1.5 containing folder or another location :help:

bovi
06-12-2008, 07:45
The extras are standalone and can be installed anywhere you like.

dracorax
09-05-2008, 10:14
I'm want to download EB but hav some questions:

1. I've set factions like dacia playable must i reset that?
2. I've got the 2 expansions of rtw must i really reinstal rtw coz i micht want to play barb invasion and i dont want to reinstall again btw in barb and alexander i also setted som factions playable must i reset it back to normal?


plz help

greetings

Dracorax (Niels)

bovi
09-05-2008, 12:15
No need to change anything in Vanilla, most of the things (like what you describe) we don't use. The validation will alert you about the things you've changed but it should be okay.

It should be okay to install it where you also have the two expansions, however some have had problems with it and had to reinstall without them. I suggest you try it first. Create a copy of the RTW folder and install EB there.

piratemonkey530
11-29-2008, 23:24
I went to install EB and it said it didn't recommend putting it in program files so I canceled and went to move thr Rome: Total War file. Then I went to install it again and it never appeared on the desktop. Then I searched for the set up and found it but when I clicked on it it that it could not find the file location. Help?

piratemonkey530
11-30-2008, 01:51
nevermind. I just redownloaded it and it worked fine. This is the best mod ever.

Boyar Son
12-26-2008, 05:33
I'm part of why Tellos made a picture guide, what with my constant questions,failures~D

Fennoskandian
12-26-2008, 12:58
How 'bout the 1.2 patch? Where should it be installed to. In the RTW folder of course, but where exactly? To the 1.1 version folder, perhaps, or to install it to a separate folder?

Tellos Athenaios
12-26-2008, 15:20
Exactly the same location you choosed to install EB 1.1 in. (As that location contains the required patched-to-1.5 "RTW.exe".)

A Very Super Market
04-26-2009, 17:06
Is that a typo? It should be show_error

bovi
05-25-2009, 16:30
I updated the main post with a bunch of stuff that was not relevant any more, seeing as 1.0 is no longer used. Tellos, perhaps you'd be able to update the screenshots at some point?

Tellos Athenaios
05-26-2009, 18:13
When I get round to actually using the 1.2 installer. That's the problem with pulling from SVN. :shrugs:

bovi
05-26-2009, 21:15
Yeah, there is that.

DiRoccodoodleedoo
06-28-2009, 17:47
I was wondering what to do during the step when you have to uninstall RTW, since I got it for buying ETW and got it via online code

Alexandros_III
06-28-2009, 20:51
Im not sure if this has been said, but I made a guide on TWC about installing with Steam. Heres just a copy of it:

It seams people are having trouble with this, so I thought I would clear it up. I bought the Alexander version of steam (since I forgot to get the real one) and figured this out a little while ago. Firstoff, download EB, and install it into your C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\common\rome total war gold as you have probably have guessed. Download and install EB 1.2 as well. Now comes the harder part. Normally if you had a disk version of the game merely clicking on the EB shortcut that is installed would work, but it targets itself at the TrivialScript, which in turn targets Rome.exe, which with Steam will not work. So heres how to fix it. In Steam, make a desktop shortcut for RTW Gold vanilla. Right click this and click on properties. Under target it should say something like:

"C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe" -applaunch 4760

But yours may be different, dont use mine. Copy this. Now right click your EB shortcut (or any, it doesnt really matter) and paste this over what is written in target. Leave a space and paste this:

-show_err -nm -mod:EB

And you'll have something like:

"C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe" -applaunch 4760 -show_err -nm -mod:EB

It should work. But I've only tried it with the Alexander expantion, so I'm not 100% sure.

Alexanderofmacedon
07-12-2009, 00:54
Bump. This should be a sticky.

bovi
07-17-2009, 08:27
It is, through the Important information sticky. We used to have so many stickies noone ever read them. Now we have fewer and still most people don't read them.

Alexandros_III
08-01-2009, 21:39
Still though, this thread is helpfull.

jerby
08-07-2009, 09:24
Short and silly:

When I installed EB1.1 I also get the startup for EB trivialscript and EB unit documentation. Do they need to be in activision/rome - total war or just seperate, whereever I want?

I currently have them in c:\ program files, but now I'm trying ALX.exe and I get the error message "at EB/Data/script/Show_me/EBBS_script unknown the trait at line 177".
The trait is "EnemyCampCaptured". Now my AI factions aren't getting money form the script, but I get 10K every season....


(I also asked here, with a pic https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2308299#post2308299 )

bovi
08-08-2009, 09:46
The Trivial Script and Unit Documentation can be installed anywhere. The script error seems like a botched submod.

Wulfaz
08-08-2009, 21:46
Hello!
i am new with EB and i would like to see if somebody could help me

i have RTW patched to 1.5 and i've installed EB , and everything worked perfect but..
when i want to play custom battles i try to choose for example the Sweboz and when i want to choose my army there is a mixture of all the cultures there, and it is the same for all the factions there, i dont know if it is normal or it is something wrong with my game because some of the warriors that comes in the website( that is not working btw) doenst appear here, and there are mixed gauls, sweboz , africans, etc like if i had chose the freemen faction

somebody there could help me to know if that's how the game is or if it is something wrong? and maybe to help me to fix it?

i appreciate it so much

greetings!

bovi
08-09-2009, 03:29
:faq:

Andros8891
08-09-2009, 17:49
Hey, I just installed Europa Barbarorum 1.0. I wanted to get the latest version straight off their website but for some reason it's down and I get redirected to some Go Daddy site. Anyway, I had to get this version at Gamespot, and I think it's old.

Do I need to download both the 1.1 and 1.2 patches to be up to date?

Tellos Athenaios
08-09-2009, 22:17
1.1 is standalone. 1.2 is a patch. This means that your 1.0 installer is no use when you want to get 1.2.

To get 1.2 download 1.1 and then 1.2. The website may be down, but the mirrors are still there. Both Filefront and the ORG (this very totalwar.org) should have those files so you can download directly from them instead.

Andros8891
08-09-2009, 22:47
Oh ok, thanks. So I might as well just get rid of the 1.0 version since I don't need it?

bovi
08-10-2009, 16:15
Yes.

Andros8891
08-10-2009, 20:32
Ok, I finished installing 1.1 and 1.2 and tried to launch it, but I get the Failed to Find Steam error message. And yes, I did follow mk56's advice and right clicked Rome Total War Gold in steam, clicked properties, went to set launch options, and typed in -mod:eb -show_err without quotations.

I have Vista, and in the guide it says that you can make a backup of the clean RTW 1.5 outside of the Program Files folder, so I just copied the entire Steam folder into a Games folder I have under Users. When installing, I specified the folder with Roman Total War Gold in it like the guide says. Does the fact that I still have the original Steam folder with all the RTW games in my C:/Program Files folder have anything to do with why I can't launch it? Should I have deleted the original or actually reinstalled the game into the new Games folder rather than just copying it? Oh, and by clean copy of 1.5, do you mean no saved games on it either?

bovi
08-11-2009, 07:23
Saved games are irrelevant, you can have as many as you like of those.

I'm not familiar with Steam, but it might well be that it is trying to launch EB from your Program Files-installed RTW still. I'm not sure if you can control the installation or run location for Steam games?

Weebeast
08-19-2009, 01:49
Is there a reported bug for trying to play EB with BI and Alex installed? I'm not talking about playing EB with BI or Alex. I'm new to RTW and I'm not sure what files get altered if BI and Alex are installed. My RTW says 1.5 though. I just thought I should ask first before I uninstall and then reinstall. Also if I were to just copy paste which files should I not copy and paste to make it a plain RTW 1.5?

Thanks in advance

bovi
08-19-2009, 01:56
Some people who have had problems getting EB to run properly have been more successful when installing without any expansions. Many do get EB to run properly with them installed though, and in theory there should be no damage from having them there.

If you were to copy your installation, if there is an expansion related problem, you would still get this problem, as any problem it has caused will still be in use by the RTW executable. Files which are Alex/BI specific will not be used by RTW. Therefore, copying such an installation cannot create a clean 1.5 RTW. You need to install RTW again to get a clean installation.

Weebeast
08-20-2009, 09:27
Hi again. Yeah I thought it should work as well because EB has its own folder but I reinstalled anyway. I started a Roman campaign and so 30 turns far so good stability wise. It's not as slow as I thought it would be, only the between turns I feel significance difference. Uncivilised Eleutheroi can't think as fast! Game wise so far it's a blast. Well maybe I should reload with harder campaign setting but anyway I love that "in the year" thing. I think I started the campaign script right. I just can't clarify. How do I know if I started campaign script? It doesn't "loop" though so I probably did it right.

Oh I was wondering what the trivial script was I double clicked the exe and I got...


XMLScriptParser: Couldn't load file: script.xml
Error Parsing file: script.xml
Row: 0 Description: Failed to open file

It doesn't seem like it but is it because it's not installed inside the EB folder? I forgot to change the default path for this one so it's in program files alone. Any way to reinstall it without reinstalling whole EB? Copy paste? Matter at all?

bovi
08-20-2009, 15:09
The trivial script is an easy way to do certain small changes to the game, such as choosing the lighting that suits you best, turning on or off movies or switching between multiplayer and singleplayer filesets.

I do not know how to fix any installation problem on it, in fact I have been unable to get it to work by installing myself (but personally prefer using shortcuts anyway). I think only LordBula (who wrote it) knows what is the problem, and he's not around now. The installation location should not matter, I gather.

Weebeast
08-20-2009, 23:58
I don't see any option about lighting and switching files...only the "preferences." Well the game works so I'm good. Thanks Bovi for replying often.

bovi
08-21-2009, 06:05
Switching files occurs when you choose to run EB multiplayer or EB single player. It copies the file sets which are appropriate from the backup folders into the mod folder proper before running the game.

Rollin_Sideways
10-28-2009, 01:30
OK, so I've followed the instructions on how to install, but I get this error when I try to start up EB:

This application has failed to start because MSS32.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this problem.

I have absolutely no clue what that means and I'm not great with computers :dizzy2:
I have read through the other posts but couldn't find an answer. I know how it's normally to do with where it's installed, but I followed the instructions fully and I'm completely stuck :wall:

This is the third time I've tried to get EB to work so any help is hugely appreciated!

Tellos Athenaios
10-28-2009, 02:52
Read post #1 of this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93236

It contains a download link for that file and instructions on where to put it.

Rollin_Sideways
10-28-2009, 11:13
I downloaded it and put it in the file and it works great! You wouldn't believe how much time i spent trying to get it to work before.

Thanks Tellos Athenaios and Bovi for the help you give to everyone! :clown:

SgtLong
04-20-2010, 01:03
hi anyway of installing with Total war gold

XSamatan
04-20-2010, 07:09
IIRC the Gold version is already patched to 1.5 , so no problem. Even if there are all addons installed the Trivial Script will identify the right exe.

XSamatan

Cetrix
05-11-2010, 18:23
Hello there,

I have a problem to run EB. I've installed RTW 1.0, then 1.3 and 1.5. After I install EB 1.1 in the right folder of RTW 1.5, and EB 1.2. But when I want to run EB game, the .exe launch RTW classic... I don't know why.

Here is a screenshot of my installation folder :

http://www.picdo.net/fichiers/2010/5/11/cec5f5a4-7326-477e-b7be-8e05006011b5_Sans-titre.JPG

The validation :

You seem to have a corrupt install. There are changes to files, or some are missing.
However, these may be conscious changes you have made, to remod EB. See below for details.
==========
Changed file: .\eb\data\world\maps\battle\custom\279#bc#-#battle#of#ausculum\description.txt (expected checksum e54e6f6ba0c7cbb4eb7a2016e2f17842, got 0337a879748a757b21957959beb00873)
Changed file: .\eb\mp game edu backup\map.rwm (expected checksum 1c90eb5933e8e610f00bdd692ca60048, got ca3d6899906a707189b700241a6e2797)
Changed file: .\rometw.exe (expected checksum de01375b675cbd95b7efcb745e72ead6, got 632f884ca993a430038a03d76bfa2f50)
Added file: .\eb play.lnk
Added file: .\extras\ebtrivialscript_setup.exe
Added file: .\extras\eb_documentation.exe
Added file: .\extras\eb_rv_setup.exe
Added file: .\unins000.dat
Added file: .\unins000.exe

Note : french windows, but game in english. Same for the 1.3 and 1.5 patch.

Please, help me :)

XSamatan
05-11-2010, 19:00
Let's start with changing the shortcut target line:

Modify the shortcut target. Move the end quote from the end of the line to directly after RomeTW.exe and it should work (goes for both the new shortcuts in 1.2). For instance, instead of "C:\My games\RomeEB\RomeTW.exe -mod:eb -show_err -ne" it should be "C:\My games\RomeEB\RomeTW.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -ne.

Oh, did you install the 1.2 patch right into the RTW folder or into the EB sub-folder?

XSamatan

Cetrix
05-12-2010, 15:55
Thank you XSamatan, it works now. It was the shortcut :)

XSamatan
05-12-2010, 17:32
You're welcome!
Be sure to not miss the EB-FAQ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84854) if you have questions on EB.

XSamatan

chazz11bravo
12-15-2010, 12:28
Hello FNG here. I've been roughly 5 installs today trying to get EB to work. I'm running xp pro. I'll have 7 soon but nt til after xmas. Does anyone have a decent guide that goes from install to starting to play EB? Thanks in advance.

MarcusAurelius
02-18-2011, 06:09
Hello,
I am having trouble playing the game i believe i have installed the game correctly, the only problem i am having is with the CD. When i go to play it asks me to put the disk in, well i no longer have my RTW disks. I made ISO copies of them on three new disks that did not work. When i put the disk in it reads it and brings up the RTW install/uninstall/play menu, however when i go to start EB it does not read that the disk is there.

Any help would be much appreciated, I'm a huge Total War and History junky so I have a huge amount of anticipation about playing this game soon.

Thanks

XSamatan
02-22-2011, 01:30
EB supports no cracks or similar, you will need a valid copy.

XSamatan

Marcus Darkstar
05-15-2011, 22:39
Ok, I finished installing 1.1 and 1.2 and tried to launch it, but I get the Failed to Find Steam error message. And yes, I did follow mk56's advice and right clicked Rome Total War Gold in steam, clicked properties, went to set launch options, and typed in -mod:eb -show_err without quotations.

I have Vista, and in the guide it says that you can make a backup of the clean RTW 1.5 outside of the Program Files folder, so I just copied the entire Steam folder into a Games folder I have under Users. When installing, I specified the folder with Roman Total War Gold in it like the guide says. Does the fact that I still have the original Steam folder with all the RTW games in my C:/Program Files folder have anything to do with why I can't launch it? Should I have deleted the original or actually reinstalled the game into the new Games folder rather than just copying it? Oh, and by clean copy of 1.5, do you mean no saved games on it either?

I'm trying to use steam since Direct2Drive is a horrible company and wont allow my activation keys to work anymore for my original copies of Rome Total war.

regardles i folllowed mk56's nstructions as well but instead of Failed to find Steam error message when it starts to load i get a CTD.

Marcus Darkstar
05-15-2011, 23:17
I'm trying to use steam since Direct2Drive is a horrible company and wont allow my activation keys to work anymore for my original copies of Rome Total war.

regardles i folllowed mk56's nstructions as well but instead of Failed to find Steam error message when it starts to load i get a CTD.

Fixed apparently STeam didnt install some nessary files while installing Total War Gold.

Now got new problem when i run EB 1.2 via way shown i click EB Main Campaign it says "Select an item from the list"I apparently can do historic battles and custom but no campaign.

Edit: ah i cliked EB from the steam selection with regular Rome Total War i can select campaigns.

Wierd.

legiotraianis
01-01-2012, 19:34
Ok can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong
I uninstalled and reinstalled RTW and I'm 100% sure it is patched
To 1.5. I ran the installer and put the file in program files(x86)/the creative assembly/RTW
However I donot have a desktop shortcut for EB.
When I go into the file and click EB play it just bring up basic RTW
What have I done wrong? Oh and the version I installed was 1.1 and I have windows 7

d'Arthez
01-01-2012, 21:41
Might be an issue with the installer? Or are you fooled by the intro movie being from RTW? If you don't disable movies it tends to be played before EB proper loads.

You can always create a shortcut yourself.

Specify the Target as being:
C:\program Files(x86)\the creative assembly\RTW\RomeTW.exe -mod:eb

And that should work. You an also add optional

-nm (no movies)
-show_err

to the command line.

XSamatan
01-02-2012, 11:27
As d'Arthez said, create a new shortcut to Rome-TW.exe and edit the target line by adding: -mod:eb -show_err -ne -nm
Use this to start EB.
1.2 and the fixes for 1.2 are strictly recommended for best game experience. Be careful where to point the 1.2 installer to, it has to go into the main RTW folder.

If you are using Vista/Win7, don't install RTW+EB into Program Files!

XSamatan

legiotraianis
01-08-2012, 21:55
Ok, so I tried adding the thing to the target line, and it says that its not a valid name. Thanks for the help though!

XSamatan
01-09-2012, 12:57
"....Rome-TW.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -ne -nm

Please check again for spelling mistakes, you need a space character after "...Rome-TW.exe"

XSamatan

legiotraianis
01-11-2012, 00:43
Okay so the name change just worked. I spelled something wrong. Thank you, you just made my month!
Anyway, what should i do now? Do i just click the edited shortcut to launch EB.
Thanks,
legioT

XSamatan
01-11-2012, 15:22
Before starting playing EB you have to read the EB-FAQ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84854) as EB features great changes compared to Vanilla...
Afterwards you use the created shortcut.
If you encounter technical problems, start by looking here for informations and guides (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103681) first.

Have a great campaign!
XSamatan

legiotraianis
01-24-2012, 03:22
Ok it worked! Thanks a ton guys, I'd've been lost without you!
LegioT

WildFilly
04-20-2012, 03:34
I have a problem with the EB and shorcuts or something...

I have uninstalled and reinstalled RTW vanilla and patches, EB 1.1 and 1.2 and the 3 other fix files twice and I have the same problem twice. I followed the tutorial, but when I use the shortcut for singleplayer (I have windows 7 and use CDs, not steam) the starting little picture will appear like normal, dissapear and then I will get a glimpse of the first full screen picture and then it will exit to desktop and close itself down. I tried changing the configurations to windowed and no movies and still it does not help. Also, when I try to launch the Trivial Script, I get an error on line 122 column 39 in the data/text/descr.shortcuts.txt. I also replaced the target for the Rome-TW.exe and that does not help at all.

The RTW and EB files are not in Program Files either... I am so lost right now. Do you know what might be happening?
Thank you

XSamatan
04-23-2012, 16:16
Hello and welcome to the org!

Are you using a no-CD crack? EB does not support that.
Please run Vanilla and see if that works without problems.
Run validateInstall.bat found in your main RTW folder and post your results here (in spoilers).

XSamatan

AntonioBarbarian
05-25-2012, 02:14
How do i install EB in steam, i tried, but a message popped up saying that Steam could not be found, please help me somebody

ErvinTheIllyrian
06-17-2012, 18:55
Well , lol . All was fine one year ago. But I saw a post here and what? Should I install RTR and then Barbarian or vice versa. Thou the problem I have is ''fail to open sound database'' quite annoying and o saw other threads here complaining about that but none of the answers worked for me. I'm just confused cuz i installed everything normally the last year and it's the first time this problem happens. I hope you can help me :).

Further more , yeah , I did not install the game to Program files as well as I copied and pasted the files to another folder. Same shit. ''Failed to open database!''

I also moved this to another folder ''The Creative Assembly'' Same , game crashes!

I did nothing more or less like the first time i installed this and it worked and what makes this worse is that you are giving out hundreds or ''solutions'' for a damn thing and , lol none of them is working. Too much complicated and fml im using vista.

If there is no solution for Vista , just say it please . Do not waste our time.

Here are 2 screens of the files

http://ft.fckitupload.com/2c/1.jpg

The other part..

http://ft.fckitupload.com/Am1/2.jpg

XSamatan
06-24-2012, 12:04
EB needs a 100% clean version of RTW, don't install it along with other mods, use a copy of RTW for every mod you are using.

XSamatan

ErvinTheIllyrian
06-26-2012, 12:13
EB needs a 100% clean version of RTW, don't install it along with other mods, use a copy of RTW for every mod you are using.

XSamatan

The problem is that i remember to have installed EB over RTW 1.5 , and now it does not work ? Wtf , maybe I should not even install RTW 1.5?

XSamatan
06-28-2012, 08:34
As I said above, help yourself to a clean RTW 1.5 version (outside Programmi while using Vista/Win7) and install EB into that, you shouldn't have problems there.

Stick to this installation guide (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80270).
If you have any further questions post back here!

XSamatan

Romanorum Trojan
08-21-2012, 13:26
Hey guys, just wanted to share some (should be obvious unless you are an idiot like me) knowledge about a problem which I kept running into: anti-virus software. Yes even those which seemingly never interfere with installation of a game can cause some problems.


First of all, before installing EB MAKE SURE TO PAUSE YOUR PROTECTION! This will save you about as much frustration as trying to answer a four year old who keeps asking "Why?" Mainly, my problem was that I could install EB, but the launch icons would never show up, the EB script would give me errors, and I could not launch the game because there was no way to launch it.

I disabled protection, re-installed EB 1.1 and guess what? I'll save you the details but it ended with me facepalming my head so hard at my own stupidity that I think I could feel shockwaves pulsating through to the back of my skull (I'll go get that checked out at the doctor's office later). The important thing is that the downloads were never corrupt and now I can finally enjoy EB!


Sincerely,

The EB Total War Forums Village Idiot

SoFarSoGood
08-21-2012, 14:04
Welcome.

Heracles
09-05-2012, 22:25
I am getting the following message during EB setup
"An error occurred while trying to read the source file: the source file is corrupted"
3 options: abort, retry, ignore. Retry same issue again. I have noticed this message is only appearing with .wav files. Any advice please?

Xan Krieger
10-23-2012, 23:57
How do i install EB in steam, i tried, but a message popped up saying that Steam could not be found, please help me somebody

I would also like the answer to this question, I have a clean install of Rome Total War Gold Edition and I've downloaded the mod and the fixes for it. I just don't want to risk derping it all up.

XSamatan
11-05-2012, 10:21
Don't set Steam to Offline-Mode, this should do the trick ;)

XSamatan

Matteo
09-24-2014, 06:55
The latest post is two years old, is still possible to get support on EB's installation? It's the first time I try this MOD. Or my question will go into oblivion?

Matteo
10-25-2014, 18:46
You gotta help me, guys... I'm upset!~:mecry:

I've installed RTW, patched it to 1.3 before and 1.5 then, made a copy of the whole RTW folder and named it "Europa Barbarorum". Then I've installed EB 1.1 setting C:\Programmi\Activision\Europa Barbarorum as path, I've also installed EB 1.2, always choosing the same folder. Now why the hell I can't run the MOD? If I click Play starts the normal game, RTW. If I try to click Run Europa Barbarorum or Run Europa Barbarorum (troubleshooting) nothing happens.

Ludens
10-26-2014, 12:29
Tellos Athenaios or Brennus

Can someone help Matteo out here?

Matteo
10-26-2014, 12:40
Hope they'll read my post. Thanks, as always.

Edit: I tried to install EB into the main RTW folder, not the copy, and now it works. I also installed the three tools (EB Trivial Script, Recruitment Viewer and EB Documentation) into the EB subfolder, while the other times I installed them separately, could it depends on this?

Moreover, if I run Validate Installation I get this.

https://i.imgur.com/xmAPfFi.png

What does that mean? And what's the difference between Validate Install and Validate Installation?

Ludens
10-28-2014, 20:02
Edit: I tried to install EB into the main RTW folder, not the copy, and now it works. I also installed the three tools (EB Trivial Script, Recruitment Viewer and EB Documentation) into the EB subfolder, while the other times I installed them separately, could it depends on this?

I'm not sure about the trivial script, but the location of the other two shouldn't matter.

As for the validation: if the mod works, the validation is unimportant. Validation only matters when there are problems.

Matteo
10-29-2014, 12:08
Look, Ludens, and what if I want to install EB with Barbarian Invasion installed into RTW folder? I found this -> https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?95664-New-installer-for-Europa-Barbarorum-with-Barbarian-Invasion, always on this forum. I have to use that?

Ludens
10-29-2014, 15:08
Look, Ludens, and what if I want to install EB with Barbarian Invasion installed into RTW folder? I found this -> https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?95664-New-installer-for-Europa-Barbarorum-with-Barbarian-Invasion, always on this forum. I have to use that?

No, that's a submod for EB: you don't need it. EB should work whether you have Barbarian Invasion (BI) installed or not.

(The submod you linked to is an adaptation of EB that uses the BI expansion rather than base R:TW. Some people prefer it because it has a few extra features and the computer is supposedly a bit smarter. But it doesn't make a big difference.)

Anyway, you wrote:


I tried to install EB into the main RTW folder, not the copy, and now it works.

So I thought you got EB working. Are you still having problems?

Matteo
10-29-2014, 15:25
No, read better, Ludens...


Edit: I tried to install EB into the main RTW folder, not the copy, and now it works.

... EB works now. But, you know, I read it's possible to create as many copies of RTW folder as the MODs which someone wants to use, leaving the original folder "untouched". Why can't I do the same?

Ludens
10-29-2014, 17:11
No, read better, Ludens...

... EB works now. But, you know, I read it's possible to create as many copies of RTW folder as the MODs which someone wants to use, leaving the original folder "untouched". Why can't I do the same?

I don't know. Maybe you installed EB in the wrong folder; maybe its due to Windows security settings; maybe it's something else. I can't tell that from here. But if EB works, you don't need to bother with the install validator.

Matteo
10-29-2014, 18:07
Yes, I got it about the validation, now that's not the problem. The problem is try to figure out why I can't run EB on copies of RTW folder.

I'll keep looking up for a solution, should I need help, I'll write here. Thanks, mod.

Matteo
10-30-2014, 16:51
OK, here's some tips, hoping they can help someone in the future.

1) At the beginning, I had two folders in C:\Program Files\Activision: Rome - Total War, the clean RTW folder with BI installed (so 1.5 version for RTW and 1.6 for BI) and his copy, renamed Europa Barbarorum, in which I had installed EB (that's why I had given it that name). But, if you read my previous posts, for some unknown reasons, I couldn't get working EB. So I removed it with Revo Uninstaller (it's a software for uninstalls in depth) and installed EB again, this time in the original folder. The MOD ran fine.

2) As I wasn't completely satisfied (I wanted to leave the original folder untouched, so I could use it to make a copy whenever I needed to try a new MOD), I removed EB again, RTW and BI included, because I had installed it on the main folder this time. So I reinstalled the game and the expansion then, updated them to 1.5 and 1.6 and created the usual copy as the first passage. Basically, I went back to the start (as the Coldplay's song, The Scientist ~D), the only difference was that this time I renamed the original folder (Rome - Total War) as RTW vanilla and the copy as the original (Rome - Total War). See the image below.

https://i.imgur.com/hkZ3I4F.png

The whole thing worked, now I have EB running on the folder copy, and I can use the original folder to play RTW or BI vanilla or to make another copy for when I'll want to play a different MOD. I don't know, but guess the problem depended on the name folder, when I used "Europa Barbarorum" the MOD didn't work, when I used another name (in my case "Rome - Total War", but I think any other name goes well anyway) it worked.

If someone has better explanations, feel free to write.~;)

Ludens
10-30-2014, 17:44
Thanks for letting us know.
:bow:

Matteo
11-01-2014, 11:49
You're welcome, dude... listen, but 1.2 fixes are just three?:shocked2:

https://i.imgur.com/sqtMM5x.png

Ludens
11-01-2014, 13:04
You're welcome, dude... listen, but 1.2 fixes are just three?:shocked2:

Yes. But 1.2 is the sixth major release of EB. The first release was 0.7 (open beta). The mod has been in development for a long time: all major issues have either been resolved, or given up on.