Emissary Question...

[skin1301]

Hi,
Probably quite simple really, but how do you become allies with other countries? I'm sure its something to do with your emissary, but i've got no idea how to do it. Any clues anyone?

[caravel]

1. Train Emissaries from the Royal Palace.
2. Drag the Emissary over the rival factions Emissary or Faction Leader.
3. Wait for the Emissary to travel to meet the rival faction's leader (a few turns depending on where he is and if he moves about a lot, if he was in the next province then a single turn should do it).
4. When asked "do you with to propose and alliance?" - Accept.

Welcome to the .org :bow:

[King Kurt]

Welcome Skin1301

It is your emissary - just place him on the leader of the faction you wish to ally with and a screen prompt will ask you if you wish to try to make an allliance. Later - normaly a year or 2 - you will get an answer, which is often no!! The higher the valour of your emissary the better.
You can also ally by marriage - you place a princess on the faction leader. In this case the presence of an emissary helps as well.
You will be offered alliances as well, especially early in the game. As a rule of thumb, accept them except when it will threaten another alliance you already have - i.e. your potential ally is already at war with your existing ally. In that case you will be given the choice.
Hope that helps.:2thumbsup:

[skin1301]

Thanks alot, thats just what i needed. Just one more thing though, totally off the subject.
In the cheats section, there are cheats like '.worksundays.' etc that need to be typed in the 'campaign map' area, I dont know where that is though. Do you? Can it be done during a game or does it need to be done before?

Thanks for your help.

[King of Bavaria]

I think the most common way is, to "drop" one of your emissaries on the king of the other faction. He will ask for an alliance, and if you're lucky they will accept.

The next way is to do the same with a princess.
If the other faction has unmarried king/heirs, you will get a marriage between, you and them, and that means an alliance. I think the AI is less likely to break an alliance formed "with blood"
If they don't have unmarried men of the royal line, then it will work the same way like with an emmissary (I think a princess has a greater chance of success in general)

You can also drop the emissary on a foreign princess to ask if she will marry one of your princes/king. (You will avoid "inbred-vices" by this way, too)

I think there is another way with catholic bishops(?), but I'm not quite sure.
I'm sure that old, wise senior members can help you more!:beam:


In general the AI accepts alliance proposes not very often.

[King of Bavaria]

Oh, sorry, much to late! :oops:

When I started writing, there was no reply.

It takes always a very long time to post with my rusty English...

[Caerfanan]

Thanks alot, thats just what i needed. Just one more thing though, totally off the subject.
In the cheats section, there are cheats like '.worksundays.' etc that need to be typed in the 'campaign map' area, I dont know where that is though. Do you? Can it be done during a game or does it need to be done before?

Thanks for your help.
Welcome skin1301! I never used a cheat code, but the "campaign map area" should be the big map of europe on which your armies are standing. Meaning that you should type the code with no open window like unit training, building, unit descritpion and the like.

Hope this helps!

Just started on MTW? You'll love it!!! :wink:

[caravel]

I think the AI is less likely to break an alliance formed "with blood"
Unfortunately it makes no difference. There are no reliable alliances.


You can also drop the emissary on a foreign princess to ask if she will marry one of your princes/king. (You will avoid "inbred-vices" by this way, too)
The inbred vices are random and not related to marriages. The incest/secret incest vice is gained by marrying your own princesses to your own faction leader or heirs. This vice decreases piety and has no other effect. It is safe to do this if your royal line is getting sparse. In a bad situation, where foreign princesses are impossible to obtain, it is a good idea to marry the heirs to some of your own princesses as soon as your heirs come of age. This starts them producing their own heirs early before they become the faction leader, giving you an extended royal line. The same goes for foreign princesses and they are preferable of course. Send your emissaries out hunting the map to get your heirs married off as early as possible.

I think there is another way with catholic bishops(?), but I'm not quite sure.
I'm sure that old, wise senior members can help you more!:beam:


In general the AI accepts alliance proposes not very often.
You can propose an alliance with a priest (Catholic Bishop/Cardinal, Orthodox Priest/Bishop, Muslim Alim/Imam) by dragging them over the rival faction leader. With priests you cannot drag them over rival emissaries or other priests to initiate the alliance proposal, this only works between emissaries.
The AI always accepts alliance proposals from small factions, it usually refuses alliance proposals from factions that are at war with it's allies, and it almost often refused proposals from very big factions. In fact if you're very big you'll find that diplomacy overall will go completely sour.

:bow:

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi skin1301,
To add to all of the very useful information that has been said, the chances of alliances working out often depend on your faction leader's influence and the valour of the alliance proposer. The higher each one the higher the chance of them doing what you want them to do, accept! Hope this helps you, cheers!

[Yoyoma1910]

If you want you alliances to last longer, and it is with a neighbor, try not to build up troops excessivly on your shared borders. This is not to say that you should leave yourself undefended, but try and have a similar amout of troops stationed.

If you start disarming along a border, and your ally does as well, then its more likely to be a lasting alliance, but if your ally maintains a large garrison on your border, its most likely they will be attempting to invade your lands relativly soon, or sometimes it is because they are at war on another provencial border. Either way, a well defended provence is a good deterent for invasion in this case.

It also helps if you are at war with the same faction. For instance, France and Italy vs. Germany.

Be aware that if you end up at war with another faction your ally is alligned with, the factions tend to ally with the weaker faction, or sometimes the ally they've been with the longest.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Be aware that if you end up at war with another faction your ally is alligned with, the factions tend to ally with the weaker faction, or sometimes the ally they've been with the longest.I also seem to find that the AI tactically remains allies in such a case. In the XL modification Scotland remained allied with England when I waged war with them. I beleive that this was because England was an almighty nation at this time and, since they had only one humble province, they were afraid to break with England out of fear of an English assault.

[Yoyoma1910]

Yes, and sometimes it also seems that they break alliance with the faction they could gain the most land from through waging war.

[Martok]

Thanks alot, thats just what i needed. Just one more thing though, totally off the subject.
In the cheats section, there are cheats like '.worksundays.' etc that need to be typed in the 'campaign map' area, I dont know where that is though. Do you? Can it be done during a game or does it need to be done before?

Thanks for your help.
Welcome to the Org, skin1301! I hope you're enjoying MTW. ~:cheers:

For most cheats, you can simply type them in while you're on the campaign map. For example, to enter the ".matteosartori." cheat (which allows you to see the entire map, just type .matteosartori. when you're looking at the main map. :yes:

[Yoyoma1910]

For most cheats, you can simply type them in while you're on the campaign map.




Yes, but only when the Pope isn't looking.