Costs of Kleruchikoi Phalangitai

[Basileus Seleukeia]

I'm wondering: Why are Kleruchikoi Phalangitai in the newest version of EB a bit more expensive than Pezhetairoi, although they have less defence and morale? I remember that without the hotfix 0.81a, Kleruchikoi had the same costs as Pantodapoi Phalangitai.

[Bonny]

I'm wondering: Why are Kleruchikoi Phalangitai in the newest version of EB a bit more expensive than Pezhetairoi, although they have less defence and morale? I remember that without the hotfix 0.81a, Kleruchikoi had the same costs as Pantodapoi Phalangitai.

afaik because the Kleruchi Phalangitae are farmers, and when they serve in your army can't harvest their field and you get less income, to simulte this the cost of them are higher than the Pezheteiro.

[Basileus Seleukeia]

afaik because the Kleruchi Phalangitae are farmers, and when they serve in your army can't harvest their field and you get less income, to simulte this the cost of them are higher than the Pezheteiro.

Seems sensible. But why should I build them then? They need MIC 4, Pezhetairoi need MIC 3. And they are more expensive with less quality.
Well, either they are accesible in more regions than Pezhetairoi are, or they are the worst EB unit when comparing Costs to stats and accesability...

[Fondor_Yards]

Well during my Saka/Roman campaigns, I noticed that the Seleucids can make these bad boys in basicly EVERY city now, compaired to the handful they got Pezhetairoi in before. And since every seleucid army seems to have at least 6 or more Kleruchikoi Phalangitai now, I'd say they are the reason the Seleucids are kicking so much ass now.

[adishee]

This will probably work alot better under M2TW, with limited productions and stuff. OoOOoO only like 3 or 4 years to wait..

[pezhetairoi]

Just out of curiosity, I'm playing as the Maks now and I've been fighting a lukewarm war (as opposed to a hot and a cold war) with AS, and I'm considering breaking out of Byzantion and invading into -their- territories instead of just waiting to throw back their invasions of me. Will I have ready access to myself there, or can I only retrain at Antiocheia? Will I be able to recruit the klerouchikoi?

[Basileus Seleukeia]

No, you can't recruit Kleruchikoi Phalangiati, they are AS and Ptolemy only.
Almost every anatolian coastal city is mainly Greek, so you have acces to some phalangiati deuteroi and stuff like Akontistai. ut I think that you have acces to a lot of your troops in Sardis, as I can build a lot of my troops there as the seleucids.

[Krusader]

No, you can't recruit Kleruchikoi Phalangiati, they are AS and Ptolemy only.
Almost every anatolian coastal city is mainly Greek, so you have acces to some phalangiati deuteroi and stuff like Akontistai. ut I think that you have acces to a lot of your troops in Sardis, as I can build a lot of my troops there as the seleucids.

Due to model/skin issues Makedonia won't get the Kleruchikon Phalangitai, although we wish as it's rulers were the Antigonids after all and among the Diadochoi.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Arkatreides we need you! :laugh4:

Ok: Seleucids can train Pezhetairoi in Alexandreia, Antiocheia, Seleukeia, Baktra, Pella, perhaps Byzantion (former 0.8 could, but I'm not there yet).
Ptolemaioi: Alexandreia, and perhaps some Greek Mainland city such as Pella.
Baktria: Baktra, and pehaps Seleukeia (never played Baktria yet - I keep it in reserve...)
Makedonia: Pella... others?

Now look here: save for Gabai, Prophthasia, Alexandreia-Ariana, Charax, and Sardis every Seleukid starting settlement can train Klerouchikoi. And given that they are fairly reliable and that they are your best option in the remote provinces...

[pezhetairoi]

Makedonia can get me in Demetrias as well. But that's it. Which totally sucks. I have to keep convoying akontistai units into those two provinces to keep up a normal population increase there.

Krusader, it's been darned long since I've seen you around! Remember the old Scythia thread days?

And damn, do we need Arkatreides! XD

[Arkatreides]

Due to model/skin issues Makedonia won't get the Kleruchikon Phalangitai, although we wish as it's rulers were the Antigonids after all and among the Diadochoi.

Is this true? Because the Deuteroi Phalangitai share a model with Pantodapoi Phalangitai (and the Machimoi Phalangitai) but apart from that all the Seleucid phalanx units are the same as the Macedonian ones, so I cannot quite see how the Kleruchikon Phalangitai would create a conflict for the Maks if it doesn't for AS.



Arkatreides we need you!


I know, I know ... just put in requests for recruitment regions in the Unit Card thread and I will do them in the order of customer demand ~;)

[Arkatreides]

Here you go!

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