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KukriKhan
06-06-2007, 23:46
I took a few "cruises" down English rivers; no dice with the biggies (Thames, Avon, etc), so that waterway is a much smaller river. Also tried some uni towns, without luck (Oxford, Cambridge, Keel).

Then slipped across the channel to coastal w.euro; the towns don't look the same. I'm convinced it's UK, and probably England/Wales. OTOH, I've gone on wild goose chases before. :laugh4:

I guess I'm ready to admit my instincts haven't bore fruit, so I need a clue.

Nice stumper, Sigurd. :thumbsup:

Sigurd
06-07-2007, 07:28
Clues are in order.

This town (its a city in my book since it has its own university) is old and became an Abbey in the 13th century.
Kings lie burried at this Abbey.
It was again raised to a greater status in the 15th century and became a Burgh of Barony.

Sigurd
06-07-2007, 07:41
[damn page expired and when doing a refresh it made another post]

scotchedpommes
06-07-2007, 08:19
Paisley. I should've known from the start, though I couldn't remember exactly
where you were familiar with.

To call it a city's stretching it a bit, I would've thought. Might as well go all-out
and label it a metropolis. ~;)

Sigurd
06-07-2007, 08:39
Paisley. I should've known from the start, though I couldn't remember exactly
where you were familiar with.

To call it a city's stretching it a bit, I would've thought. Might as well go all-out
and label it a metropolis. ~;)

You're correct!!!

I don't know, but here over the pond when a town manages to establish a university, it gets the status of city.

my next clue would be the textile industry and their well known pattern.

scotchedpommes
06-07-2007, 09:26
I have had somewhere in mind for a while, although the globe and map pages
only seem to provide poor quality images at the height I would prefer.

This'll do for the time being, I think:
https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w64/rdecejabolko/0a2bda62.jpg

KukriKhan
06-07-2007, 11:56
Paisley.

Rats; I should have known 'up' wasn't necessarily 'North'.:idea2: Good assignment, Sigurd; searching, I learned more about the UK countryside.

Louis VI the Fat
06-07-2007, 12:06
Paisley was a good one, Sigurd. :2thumbsup:

At least Kukri, rdeče and I were on the right track. Football team, UK, university, gothic cathedral (well, abbey).

Paisley Abbey (http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/paisley/abbey/index.html).


I'm working on rdeče's picture. Or to be more precise, I'm stumped.

KukriKhan
06-07-2007, 14:34
I'm touring eastern european cities to see if I get a lucky match; striking out so far with Ljubljana, Budapest, Prague, Bratislava, and Zagreb & Sarajevo. Maybe I'm wasting my time in E.Euro.

The little spots of red and blue among the otherwise grey/green city are interesting.

The blurry bit to the right of the image suggests that the city borders an area not given full resolution from the satellite. So maybe a 'smaller' town.

Sigurd
06-07-2007, 15:08
Trying to analyze rdeče's city...

To far up to actually see traffic...
Mostly larger apartment buildings in the area
A strange building up north with a metal like roof.
Lots of fauna inside this city/town

The black tarmac on the stadium is interesting though. I can't remember having seen that before.
I think red is the more usual colour, at least in Europe. What is that thing to the north of the stadium?

There is also a lot of tar roofing on those buildings. This could indicate colder climate.
It does look eastern europe/North western Asia with those large open squares behind the apartment buildings.

Time to go home... Will look at this later

Sigurd
06-07-2007, 18:59
I think this is a city that lies in the former Soviet union ... It looks like Kiev.
However I am not able to find the stadium with the black tarmac nor the strage beetle like metal building.
The city could be in Belarus, Ukraine or Russia

Louis VI the Fat
06-07-2007, 20:33
What I find funny is that it's built to look monumental. Axes, lines of sight, wide avenues ending with grand monuments.

But the blocks aren't closed. They are free standing buildings, in a very green environment. Like a village that's trying to emulate Paris or something.

Maybe it's in a former Soviet Republic? The Balkans? A regional capital? Or is it in Asia?

Oh, the suspense of it all....

(And rdeče, please no clues yet if it's up to me! We need a good challenge.)

scotchedpommes
06-07-2007, 22:23
[Fear not, mes amis; watching this process is interesting enough. No clues yet,
as I think it could simplify the task a little too much at an early stage.]

You are all reassuringly methodical, if nothing else.

:book:

barocca
06-08-2007, 00:07
first of all we have had no telecoms service here for the last three days,
so i apologise for not giving more clues to the wichita one

i had best explain the ones i did give..

the "third rock" bit was meant to allude to the obvious,
which, when you look at googleMAP (which i have mentioned that i use), then Wichita is slap bang in the middle.

"antipodean interdimensional physics" - well i live in australia, which we call Oz - the land of Oz - which is Not in Kansas (and Wichita IS)
"we're not in kansas anymore toto...."

and i found out why there are so many airports/runways just outside the area i displayed - lots of aircraft factories there. (which i would have turned into a clue)

i still am uncertain why there are so many statistical anomolies, but then, it is kansas...

KukriKhan
06-08-2007, 04:06
i still am uncertain why there are so many statistical anomolies, but then, it is kansas...

Minor disturbances in the space-time continuum, no doubt. Happens alla time in Kansas. :laugh4:

To rdeče.jabolko's image: it can't be Asia (except in the very western sense); certainly not 'modern' asia.

Kukri dives into the smaller ville's of the former CCCP.

1 Q: Is up = north?

Duke John
06-08-2007, 08:50
the "third rock" bit was meant to allude to the obvious,
which, when you look at googleMAP (which i have mentioned that i use), then Wichita is slap bang in the middle.
That was I had thought about, but dismissed too easily as I used Google Earth which starts staring at the Netherlands. Good clues though!

scotchedpommes
06-08-2007, 10:17
1 Q: Is up = north?

No.

Duke John
06-08-2007, 11:20
From the blurry line on the right you can see how much it is rotated. Taking into account the shadows, the main street goes to the west (or north) away from the big building. So rotate it 150 degrees or so clockwise to get the right orientation?

Except for the big building, the photo doesn't show anything interesting to me that makes it different from dozens other towns. So focusing on that:

Is that a big staircase in front of the big building? And it seems to have two slightly higher towers near its entrance. Or perhaps the slightly longer shadow is caused by the building standing on a hill. Which makes sense if there is indeed a grand staircase. 4 dots on the staircase could be statues? Barrel roof or a dome with a strange higher tower behind it. The entrance looks weird with a fanlike form. Not really classical or baroque.

Sigurd
06-08-2007, 11:48
AHA!...

Good stumper rdeče.
We were on the right track with our analysis people.
North in the picure is actually nearly straight east (with a slight angle towards south).
The strange building looks like a gouvernor recidence (perhaps a theatre), but I can't read the letters naming it.
The city has a Greek name and is inhabited both by Ukranians and Russians in addition to its native population.

Duke John
06-08-2007, 13:13
Tiraspol in Moldavia! After Sigurd's comments I first started looking at Belarus as it was lying between Russia and Ukraine. Looking for a Greek named city, perhaps polis or something. But then I had a try in Wikipedia with a Moldavian city and it showed a far higher Russian and Ukranian population than in Belarus. So I went back that city, zoomed in, found an athletic track and then that building.

Beginner's luck :grin:

Duke John
06-08-2007, 15:05
I'll need to go soon and I don't have time in the weekend. So I hope that I am allowed to post now, and a I guess a fairly easy one:

Under Construction
A hint for the people who want to use google search:
Barrel vaults based on a "forgotten" timber construction method.

A beautiful system and consquently the subject of my graduation project :grin: Searched this project only to see it finished half, what are the odds!

Zoomed out more as my first submission was a bit too obscure, sorry about that.
https://img470.imageshack.us/img470/3149/underconstructionlargetj4.jpg

scotchedpommes
06-08-2007, 15:21
Excellent work on the last one. :2thumbsup:

The city was Tiraspol, capital of the unrecognised and disputed state of
Transnistria, (Pridnestrovie) which is quite possibly the only remaining Soviet
state in Europe. [If I remember my unrecognised states correctly.] Clues may
have included the presence of both Russians and Ukrainians, perhaps the
twinning with Trondheim; ~;) the existence of 3 top-flight Moldovan football
teams in the city [including the Moldovan champions] and also the state's
current coat of arms: https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w64/rdecejabolko/666ec782.png

Sigurd
06-08-2007, 15:21
He,he ...
I believe we are seeing a before and after picture with those shiny "barrels?"...
Farmland all around...
This looks like Europe

Yawning Angel
06-08-2007, 16:36
Those long narrow fields look remarkably like the kind you see in Holland to me, beyond that not sure I can offer much.

Stig
06-08-2007, 18:09
It's Holland, that's for sure

Mostlikely somewhere near the place DJ lives

Duke John
06-11-2007, 07:53
I guess I gave you too little reference points in the photo. I'll zoom out a bit more:

https://img470.imageshack.us/img470/3149/underconstructionlargetj4.jpg

barocca
06-11-2007, 08:48
sadly nothing here means much to me
(coastal city, rail line, river - but thats a large number of towns...)

the barrel vault clue also means not much to me,
too many buildings on the planet use the structure
:-/

Duke John
06-11-2007, 08:55
The barrel structure is based on the Zollinger construction method (not that many recent examples, so it should narrow down your search, if you can describe what those vaulted buildings are correctly then the city will pop right up). The inside of the dome looks like this:
https://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8614/domeos5.jpg

Louis VI the Fat
06-11-2007, 11:02
Rimini, Italy. :jumping:

Who'd have thought Italy's Adriatic coast looked so much like Holland...

Duke John
06-11-2007, 11:27
:rtwyes: Corretto!

Sigurd
06-11-2007, 11:38
Rimini, Italy. :jumping:

Who'd have thought Italy's Adriatic coast looked so much like Holland...
Good job..

I thought it was somwhere in Germany, with the Friedrich Zollinger clue.
I looked in Friedrichafen which apparently has a Zollinger inspired building complex much like the one on Duke John's picture.
I couldn't even find the building complex there...

Louis VI the Fat
06-11-2007, 12:19
Googling led me to the building method, which led me suddenly to this page. (http://www.gmp-architekten.de/2projects/messerimini/rimini.html)


New one, tough again!:

https://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4337/rkct8.png

Duke John
06-11-2007, 12:22
Hidden space base on mars? :wink:

Sigurd
06-11-2007, 12:27
Is that the sun power plant from Africa?
The one with mirrors that reflect the sun to a tower in the middle?

Duke John
06-11-2007, 14:20
I was thinking about that too, although I expected the mirrors to be more shiny. Isn't the one in Africa supposed to be build in the future. I believe the biggest one currently is somewhere in America
Edit: which would be Boulder City, Nevada, can't seem to pinpoint it though. On the other hand, the mirrors are usually place more radially. And there are also quite a lot of buildings which is not really nessecary for such a power plant.

Edit 2: Aren't we looking at an Arabic city or something? The round things seem like roundabouts with housing clustered around it. And the whiteish long rectangle thing on the right looks like horse/camel race track. And the thing next to it looks like a stadium.

Yawning Angel
06-11-2007, 16:49
Woohoo, got one!

King Khalid Military City in Saudi Arabia http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1353043

Alas I haven't got a follow up question, so if someone else wants another go they're welcome

Louis VI the Fat
06-11-2007, 17:45
KKMC is correct. Are you sure you don't want to try us with a question of your own? Come on, just give it a go. :yes:

DJ: your edit2 was spot on. ~;)
It is an intersting place to check out. For those interested in it just copy paste King Khalid Military City into your Google Earth / Maps or Wikipedia and off you go...

testing
06-11-2007, 18:48
The barrel structure is based on the Zollinger construction method
all my searches and i missed that idea...
shoulda searched for barrel vault contstruction methods...

Duke John
06-12-2007, 09:40
That city is weird. Now I understand why an Arabic city would have a stadium and roundabouts, it was populated by Americans! Good find, Yawning Angel!

Edit: any objection if I post a pic to keep this going?

Louis VI the Fat
06-12-2007, 12:10
If you come across anything, please feel free to post it, Yawning Angel.


Meanwhile, and sticking with the Mars theme, you can all sink your teeth into this one:


https://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6748/ge4ud9.png

Note that up isn't north, but that shouln't really matter with this symmetrical martian base.

Yawning Angel
06-12-2007, 12:16
Umm, apologies for the lack of picture, I spotted the KKMC one just as I was about to leave work yesterday (productive afternoon - not :embarassed: ) and didn't have time to post a question.

Alas today I am slightly busy :whip: so go with Louis' picture or a Duke John one. I will sort out a pic to post for next time I manage to get one.

Sigurd
06-12-2007, 12:53
As to Louis' city:

I know it says Google earth on that picture, but this is clearly a fake. :sweatdrop:
Am I looking at a photoshoped picture from Command & Conquer?

Duke John
06-12-2007, 12:55
Awesome image!

It looks like a hotel under construction with a big foyer/entrance/gambling area around it. It's got a worn look, but that might be because of a dust/sand in the air. I checked Dubai, but there doesn't seem to be such a building there and I believe that they are more into smooth shiny forms.

The ridges on the sloped roofs and the stepped top in the middle look odd, not really architectural sound so there must another reason. Looks a bit like a balustrade along a stairway to the top. Stepped roof doesn't appear Arabic.

No asphalt roads so it doesn't appear to be build in a city environment, or at least not in the centre.

...

It says 2005 on the photo but all my photos say 2007. Is this an old image, did you get it from the internet?

Louis VI the Fat
06-12-2007, 14:25
It says 2005 on the photo but all my photos say 2007. Is this an old image, did you get it from the internet?I can't run Google Earth on my computer, so all my pictures are from the internet.
Is there a way I can save pictures, or take screenshots, from google maps?


I checked with Google Maps, the...'thing' looks somewhat different but should be instantly recognisable. It looks a bit whiter now than in my pic, which was probably taken during one of Coruscants infamous sand storms. :book:

Sigurd
06-12-2007, 14:37
It looks a bit whiter now than in my pic, which was probably taken during one of Coruscants infamous sand storms. :book:
:laugh4:

Coruscant does not have sand... it is one big city which covers the entire planet surface. :whip:
When I "take" my pictures, I use the [Alt]+[Prt Scr] keys and [Ctrl]+[V] into mspaint.
I then format the picture the way I like, upload it to Photobucket.

I guess you can do this with any picture you are looking at (a picture in a browser or in an application).

Stig
06-12-2007, 14:40
I'm going for the Jedi Temple from Star Wars

Louis VI the Fat
06-13-2007, 10:47
I'll zoom out for my clue:


https://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8964/coruscant2xt5.gif


[Alt]+[Prt Scr] keys and [Ctrl]+[V] into mspaint works perfectly. I so lack even elementary computer skillz. :dunce:
Next week, I'm going to learn how to get rid of those white areas when copy/pasting....

KukriKhan
06-13-2007, 14:15
The building shape certainly echo's a favorite design for casino-hotels. Atlantic City, NJ & Las Vegas searches come up empty though, for an exact match. I guess we're outside the US. And the red-clay earth & vegetation kind of rule out the Middle-East/Persian Gulf.

Maybe Mexico. Checking resorts there, especially newer construction.

barocca
06-13-2007, 14:15
I'm going for the Jedi Temple from Star Wars
i concur with Stig on this one.
B.

Sigurd
06-13-2007, 15:03
How tall do you think that building is?

I am trying to locate it using this: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/
Alas, I don't have the time.

Someone else up for the task?

Duke John
06-13-2007, 15:25
I suspect that the slope of the roof is about 45 degrees. Guessing that the width of a "wing" is 10-12 metres and then a rough measure of its length: 7*10-12 = 70-84 metres -> 1.4 * 70-84 = 100 to 120 metres + top. Looked at your site. That still results in a very large amount of possibilities and not all them have pictures either.

This last picture with above = north. The shadows are pointing upwards which means around noon. And you can't very long shadows near the equator around noon right, even in winter?

Louis VI the Fat
06-13-2007, 22:42
Louis has discovered MsPaint!! :jumping:



https://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8797/corus4hr8.png

Motep
06-14-2007, 02:10
If i were you, i would not remove the white space, but use it as you just did. :laugh4: Also, I havent the slightesr Idea where that town is...I think its in the antartic ice shelfs...

Duke John
06-14-2007, 08:27
I hesitate to give you this tip as your drawings are awesome! :grin:

In Paint, try this:
Create a new image, then paste your printscreen, select you want and copy.
Create another new image and paste again.
Deselect (press any button) and then move to the bottom right of the image. You should see a small black rectangle which you can move around to resize your canvas and remove the white.

Or you could try one of those free image viewers which let you crop. You could try Irfanview: http://www.irfanview.com/

Motep
06-14-2007, 08:42
I hesitate to give you this tip as your drawings are awesome! :grin:

In Paint, try this:
Create a new image, then paste your printscreen, select you want and copy.
Create another new image and paste again.
Deselect (press any button) and then move to the bottom right of the image. You should see a small black rectangle which you can move around to resize your canvas and remove the white.

Or you could try one of those free image viewers which let you crop. You could try Irfanview: http://www.irfanview.com/

Personally, I think it better to just stick with the stuff you already have, and master it. Just do the doodlebop thingamajig he mentioned. I have screenies to help you.

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/doodle.jpg


Just use the boxes and the direstions noted with the arrows and the circles to crop the image. Not as good as photoshop, but a hell of alot easier to open and to manage.(pardon the bad doodle)

KukriKhan
06-14-2007, 15:51
OK, I'm stumped. After checking major resort cities, and googling "world's largest buildings", I'm no closer to resolution.

I beg a clue.

p.s. You're quite handy with msPaint's drawing tool. Bravo! :laugh4:

Louis VI the Fat
06-14-2007, 22:38
Some clues:

- the last picture is the same city again. The 'thing' is in the top left.
- we've encountered those blue rooftops before. They mean this city is in the continent of...
- it is a big city. Well-known.

Duke John
06-15-2007, 09:43
Search thread: "blue roof" -> Asia.

It should be a well known city and consider the size that continent that would probably mean capital cities. So I went through all the major Asian cities and looking through the pattern of large river with small river and a few bridges, couldn't find any besides a few Japanese ones.
I skipped North Korea a few times since you're not allowed to go there, right? As a last try I did, and voila, noticed the correct rivers and that odd building.

So it is: Pyongyang, North Korea

But where did you get the original image, Louis? Google Earth/Maps doesn't show it.

Some info on the building: it's 330 metres high. Appears to be build in Russian style and remains unfinished. Some images:
http://static.flickr.com/35/100571773_ec21b93bac_o.jpg
http://www.peterlanger.com/Countries/Asia/Koreanorth/images/KPPYO050BW.jpg

If was finished it would have been tallest hotel in the world and since that isn't the case, and NK isn't exactly popular in the western world, googling for the "tallest hotel" does not bring this up.

Nice one, Louis!

Duke John
06-15-2007, 09:58
In my previous submission some people thought I posted a city in the Netherlands. So, as I do not want to dissapoint them this time:

Typical Dutch
https://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1218/typicaldutchch0.jpg

Should be easy if you think about it... :wink:

The first tip:

It walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck and, amazingly, it even looks like a 400-year old duck, but is it really a duck? See for yourselves.

Louis VI the Fat
06-15-2007, 11:45
But where did you get the original image, Louis? Here (http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Discussions/Loisirs/constructions-humaines-toffes-sujet_53210_2.htm). Scroll down a bit.

North Korea is endlessly fascinating. I'd almost wish they would be a bit richer, so their bizarre regime could leave the world a build legacy that would completely trump anything the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany have left. Pyongyang would resemble Coruscant if those Sith Kim lords had it their way.


https://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4618/reunificationarchpyongyzj7.jpg


https://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6940/pyongyangwinterbwxx0.jpg


https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2311/triumphalarchms3.jpg

Triumphal Arch. Being the petty totalitarian regime they are, they build it to be a tiny bit higher than the arc de triomphe in Paris.




https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4641/105tower01fb7.jpg


"The "105 Building" is one of the boldest buildings in Pyongyang. From a distance, it is a dreadful, if awe-inspiring piece of architecture. It reminds one of the following passage from George Orwell's book, 1984:

The Ministry of Truth—Minitrue, in Newspeak—was startlingly different from any other object in sight. It was an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace, three hundred meters into the air...The Ministry of Truth contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below. (from 1984, by George Orwell, c. 1949)

This Pyongyang building is not actually a government ministry or a place of terror, but the Yu-kyung hotel. In a strange coincidence, it is the same height as the building in 1984 and contains the same number of rooms.
Construction of the building began in 1987 and was abandoned four years later. Some people say that faulty engineering has left it structurally unsound, and visitors are not allowed to approach it up close."

Stig
06-15-2007, 12:03
Duke John's is an old fortress city like we have in Holland, shouldn't be very hard

Duke John
06-15-2007, 12:10
Pyongyang would resemble Coruscant if those Sith Kim lords had it their way.
Yes, they are a bit like https://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9885/dramauz0.gif
Would make a nice tourist attraction, drama is so much nicer to look at than those glass towers of most modern cities.


Duke John's is an old fortress city like we have in Holland, shouldn't be very hard
It's only easy if you think about it.

barocca
06-15-2007, 13:27
Willemstad

barocca
06-15-2007, 14:45
i suggest willemstad because in google maps its is completely covered by cloud


other than that there are some hundred old dutch (and dutch style) fortresses around the world,

one of you has said "in the netherlands"
and the other has said "like in holland"

so we could be looking at any fortress in most any colony in the former dutch empire,
(which was quite extensive)
because neither of you have said "Modern" or "current"
and neither of you have said which way is north

bed time
B.

ps - all this "rotating north" business is a bother because i have a slow connection (56k modem) and i cannot make informed decisions using shadows.

Duke John
06-15-2007, 14:49
It's not Willemstad.


ps - all this "rotating north" business is a bother because i have a slow connection (56k modem) and i cannot make informed decisions using shadows.
What do you mean with rotating north and shadows?

...ah, up is north in my picture.

Stig
06-15-2007, 14:50
When I say Holland I mean The Netherlands.

In the dialect I speak we use Holland as the name for our country, not Nederland (=The Netherlands).

I doubt we need to look at old colonies tho

Duke John
06-15-2007, 15:36
Again, I won't be around during the weekend so here is the first tip:

It walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck and, amazingly, it even looks like a 400-year old duck, but is it really a duck? See for yourselves.

KukriKhan
06-17-2007, 22:36
So, when is a duck not a duck? When it's a swan?

When is a fortress-looking city not a fortress? When it's a ____________ (museum) (uni) (town hall)?

Not Utrecht, Masstricht, Venlo (though the shape was similar) or Bergen-op-Zoom . Amsterdam is out of the question, I assume. Is there a town anywhere where the Dutch haven't placed a fortress or castle?

Me out of inspiration, for now.

Duke John
06-18-2007, 08:33
So, when is a duck not a duck? When it's a swan?
No, then it would just be a swan. Replace duck with Rolex and you probably get the idea what you are looking at.

https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9809/naamlooscp2.jpg

barocca
06-21-2007, 07:08
dutch and rolex got me to the isle of wight for a yachting regatta...
the Rolex Commodores Cup,

and the International Rolex Regatta in St Thomas...

and to the Rolex Equestrian World Cup (in las vegas???)...

and to the Holland Regatta in Medemblik...

but thats as far as it got me....

Duke John
06-21-2007, 09:40
To explain my tips and get this location guessed:

The title was: Typical Dutch. If you look at it it might be too typical: it's got the earthen defenceworks, a "grachtengordel" (city canals with houses alongside) and a large building (which you can guess is typical dutch). Stig immediately said that it was like those fortresses we have in the Netherlands, so it really is typical dutch. However I don't make it that easy for you. You'll have to think out of the box for this one.

Notice that the only cars (and quite alot of them) are outside the area.

It looks like a 400 year old dutch town, but it is not build 400 years ago, it is not dutch (although the bricks apparently are) and it's not a town.

What do you call a watch that looks perfectly like a rolex but isn't one? Well, this town is exactly the same.

An extra tip: for some reason there are relatively more Japanese taking photos of the buildings.

sapi
06-21-2007, 10:16
:laugh4:

Is that a replica from Japan?

Louis VI the Fat
06-21-2007, 11:38
Brilliant, DJ. ~;)

I take it's 'Huis Ten Bosch' (http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/07/30/travel/30journeys.html), Nagasaki then?


The Netherlands in Nagasaki

Huis Ten Bosch is the largest and perhaps most ambitious of Japan’s cultural theme parks. Creating the illusion of a 17th-century Dutch village set in 21st-century Japan, Huis Ten Bosch features immaculate replicas of well-known Dutch buildings, including the Gouda Town Hall as well as the Dom Tower, over three miles of elaborate canals, and enough dikes, windmills and tulips to satisfy even the most heightened of national stereotypes.

With four luxury hotels and an array of restaurants, the atmosphere veers unexpectedly toward the romantic. “Huis Ten Bosch is for couples,” said one visitor, Junko Watanabe. “The place has a romantic feel to it.” To that end, most of the park’s attractions are of the more sedate variety. Visitors seem content to spend the day wandering along the park’s many streets and canals. But they can rent bicycles, and in the spring a tulip festival promises more than one million flowers in full bloom.

Duke John
06-21-2007, 12:21
Finally! I was starting to fear that nobody got the "joke" that they were looking at a fake dutch city. Next time don't believe so easily what you see :wink: Nagasaki is not 100%correct, but it's in its neighbourhoud, so take it away, Louis!

Sigurd
06-21-2007, 12:23
If you think I am not participating as much as I have, you are quite right...
It is high season for getting things done before the holydays.
I should have had my vacation about now but stuff at work came up.
Luckily we hadn’t planned anything special, just staying at home finishing stuff at our house.

I have lived in my new home a year now and there is still plenty of stuff that is either nearly finished or not started.
There is still a coating of paint remaining on two of the walls and the house builders have replaced some of the bad woodwork on my terrace (I had already painted that!!!)
Not to mention my garden etc… no dirt in it yet, just stone.

I will be back when time permits.


A google earth pic of my property (its a house there today):

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/MyPlace.jpg

barocca
06-22-2007, 20:03
request
when an erroneous clue is given could it be corrected please.

when i asked if we should be looking at former colonies/outposts, Stig said No.

Huis is within cannon shot of Nagasaki and is a fake.

the fake/not fake clue was a bit mixed message, it was a fake/ then it was not,
the Rolex bit - Rolex is a major sponsor of International yachting,
and every event they sponsor has Dutch yachts in it.

B.

(edit - at the time the colony answer was given i was actually online looking at nagasaki!
with plans to scour that area of japan - i guess thats why i am grumpy)

(also this has been a week getting solved, maybe some time limit is needed?)

Louis VI the Fat
06-22-2007, 20:12
Oops, nearly forgot:


https://img463.imageshack.us/img463/6508/ville4pe0.jpg


Up almost north, by some 10 / 15 degrees off.

KukriKhan
06-23-2007, 01:18
Plenty to see, there. It doesn't "smell" North American, or even western Hemisphere. I vote for eastern Europe to Western Asia; maybe India, Tibet or one of the "-stan" countries - but someplace with passable roads that support lots of bus traffic.

The green roof suggests copper, and lots of it. I'm looking for copper-roofed temples/monastery complexes.

Lorenzo_H
06-23-2007, 11:03
Middle/Far East I'd say. India? Eygpt?

TevashSzat
06-23-2007, 13:58
Is it just me, but I cant see the picture

Louis VI the Fat
06-23-2007, 14:21
Let's hope you can see this picture then. Also, note there isn't any white stuff !!
Thanks, DJ and Motep, it worked.


https://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9568/ville5xs3.png

Sigurd
06-25-2007, 10:30
Just making a quick observation here...

I see a church building with golden domes suggesting orthodox Christianity. Combined with the green corroded copper roofs I would think this is somewhere in the Eastern part of Europe.

But hey, People are getting better at masking the clues so I might be wrong about this.

One thing is definite, the traffic drives on the right hand side ruling out UK, Oz and Japan and the other left-handers.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
06-26-2007, 04:30
I looked over Istanbul and Jerusalem with no results, if that helps.

Sigurd
06-26-2007, 06:22
Is that the St. Alexander Nevski patriarchal cathedral in Sofia?

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/alexander-nevski-patriarchal-cathed.jpg

Louis VI the Fat
06-26-2007, 12:16
Sofia it is.

Bulgaria is a nice place, I went there two years ago. Lying at a crossroads of cultures, it looks like a peculiar mix of Russia and Greece.

http://www.bulgariauniversity.com/gallery/images/Photo%2047.jpg


https://img406.imageshack.us/img406/706/monasterederila8xk9.jpg

Photos. (http://www.studentsoftheworld.info/sites/country/4932.php)

Sigurd
06-26-2007, 13:45
I sense a church theme ...

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/EntryXX.jpg

Cataphract_Of_The_City
06-26-2007, 17:20
Could it be Copenhagen?

Sigurd
06-27-2007, 08:17
Could it be Copenhagen?
Nope...

For the first timers:
Use your analytic skills... you can narrow down quite much by just looking at the pictures.
Of course this assumes that you have some basic notion of how things are done in the different nations of the world.

Stig
06-27-2007, 10:38
Use your analytic skills... you can narrow down quite much by just looking at the pictures.

Like this:
Flat rooftops, makes me think of England.
Can't be England because the cars are on the correct side of the road.

Sigurd
06-27-2007, 10:42
Like this:
Flat rooftops, makes me think of England.
Can't be England because the cars are on the correct side of the road.

there you go...
Anything else you see?

Stig
06-27-2007, 10:58
Red roofed church, cross laying on the roof (tho that got me nowhere)
There's some little parkingplace, and mostlikely mall on the left.

Sigurd
06-27-2007, 12:00
Tell me about the housing...
Are they lowrise apartments or individual housing standing next to eachother?
What about the thingmeabobs on those roofs?

What about the cars?
Size of the sidewalks?
The layout of pedestrian crossings?
Roadmarking on the roads?
The streets overgrown with trees...
etc.

Duke John
06-27-2007, 12:24
The 'thingmeabobs' on the roof are most likely airconditioning systems, indicating a warm climate, green trees so not too dry, probably just warm summers. The "zebra" crossings for pedastrians remind me of the US. And the narrow high housing reminds me of Bill Cosby's house (from the show of course).

I would think somewhere on the northern part of the east coast of the US. I always thought that Bill Cosby lived somewhere around that neighbourhood.

[...] seems to match quite nicely.

Ah man, I got it "completely wrong"! The Bill Cosby Show was in Los Angeles.

I don't have any idea for a submission, so I'll pass.

Edit: Edited out the name of the city so I hope nobody saw it :tongue2:

Sigurd
06-27-2007, 12:30
The 'thingmeabobs' on the roof are most likely airconditioning systems, indicating a warm climate, green trees so not too dry, probably just warm summers. The "zebra" crossings for pedastrians remind me of the US. And the narrow high housing reminds me of Bill Cosby's house (from the show of course).

I would think somewhere on the northern part of the east coast of the US. I always thought that Bill Cosby lived somewhere around that neighbourhood.

[...] seems to match quite nicely.

Ah man, I got it "completely wrong"! The Bill Cosby Show was in Los Angeles.

I don't have any idea for a submission, so I'll pass.

Edit: Edited out the name of the city so I hope nobody saw it :tongue2:

Well you are as warm as one can be...
I didn't see your suggestion... It could have been right.

Duke John
06-27-2007, 12:39
I saw the church. I'm just out of inspiration for a new location. And it's about time that Stig showed a true, 100% real, dutch city :wink:

Sigurd
06-27-2007, 13:10
I saw the church. I'm just out of inspiration for a new location. And it's about time that Stig showed a true, 100% real, dutch city :wink:

So... you found it, but won't name it? Ok let's see if Stig gets it.

Stig
06-27-2007, 14:16
I'm stuck, I don't really have the knowledge about locations as you have.

I would say European seeing the houses, but you say that DJ is close when he said America.

Seamus Fermanagh
06-27-2007, 21:02
Old-style rowhomes for the most part. Rooves retrofitted with HVAC units and some have small gardens/patios. One modernish apartment block (taller, clean roof). Square church with cross and rectory next door (one floor taller than neighbors) -- that approach to church design was VERY common in the Eastern USA from 1880-1940.

Traffic is based on a right-hand/USA driving pattern, but the roads are laid out somewhat haphazardly for motor vehicle traffic -- suggesting that part of the street plan predates the ICE.

Let me view more and edit.

Okay, lack of yellow center lines on two-way streets leaves me wondering about USA. Pedestrian cross walks are not a typical pattern for USA. Also, not of the intersections seem to have lights hanging out over the road -- which is now far more common in the USA than the old at the corner version.

Leaning towards Canada -- Ottowa or some such -- but could be Western Europe.

Does the Glenrothes thing on the capture frame mean anything?

Also, HVAC retrofit appears to be to few for the number of homes/flats -- quite a number of them do NOT have AC, suggesting a cooler climate.

Yawning Angel
06-28-2007, 10:43
Have found it!

Was stumped on this one, was thinking European until some helpful clues by others made me move to the E. Coast USA. It is Concord Baptist Church (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=church&sll=42.344304,-71.074719&sspn=0.006146,0.009978&ie=UTF8&latlng=42343730,-71076565,18295787487249975503&ei=dIGDRrHWG4XS2gLx9piqBw&cd=1) in Boston.

Will dig out a pic for the next one if this is confirmed right. :2thumbsup:

Sigurd
06-28-2007, 10:58
Have found it!

Was stumped on this one, was thinking European until some helpful clues by others made me move to the E. Coast USA. It is Concord Baptist Church (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=church&sll=42.344304,-71.074719&sspn=0.006146,0.009978&ie=UTF8&latlng=42343730,-71076565,18295787487249975503&ei=dIGDRrHWG4XS2gLx9piqBw&cd=1) in Boston.

Will dig out a pic for the next one if this is confirmed right. :2thumbsup:

Congratulations!!! :balloon2:
Correct.

Yawning Angel
06-28-2007, 11:14
:beam: Yippii! Ok, now to see if I can figure out image and spoiler tags (doubtful). I thought I'd move on slightly from church buildings. .

https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/Thal2602/Google_earth_q.jpg

Hopefully easy enough . . ?

Stig
06-28-2007, 11:18
wow

What do we have here:
Railway station
Loads of green
Soft colour (makes me think of Asia)
Seeing the road pattern an older city
Little river
There appears to be some broken up terrain across the river on the right

I'm going to look in Google Earth now, but I guess Beijing

TevashSzat
06-28-2007, 13:08
Frankly the large amounts of green makes me think of any city other than China's since lets say people in China arent too concerned with enviornmental issues and that there usually aren'y much Green in Chinese cities

Stig
06-28-2007, 13:12
Aye true, but it was just a guess, and it's wrong, as I've seen now.

Maybe something Australian, tho maybe the road pattern suggests something more European.
Spain or Italy maybe, but it's very green for those countries.

Yawning Angel
07-02-2007, 09:38
Not sure what people want for clues, but I thought I'd post a castle in this one instead of a church although the city is known for having a large number of churches. (Oh and up is North).

Stig
07-02-2007, 12:47
Loads of churches, a castle and up north?

blindly guessing at Rome, tho that will to far south I think.

Yawning Angel
07-02-2007, 21:37
Rome is a little far south I'm afraid. This picture includes the obligatory church and should give away the country as well . .

https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/Thal2602/extra_clue.jpg

Cataphract_Of_The_City
07-03-2007, 01:56
Norwich, UK.

Cataphract_Of_The_City
07-03-2007, 02:18
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/p.grigorakis/geentry.jpg

(the pic is probably huge so if some kind lad can show me how to use the spoiler tags, i would appreciate it)

Now...this should be tricky enough.

Yawning Angel
07-03-2007, 11:09
Norwich, UK.

Is correct :beam:

About the buildings:
Norwich Castle is an 11th century earthwork motte and baileys fortress, founded by King William I. Early in the 12th century, King Henry I founded the stone castle, when adding a huge ornate keep, to the enormous motte. In the early 13th century, drum towers and a gatehouse were added, with a drawbridge and a stone bridge spanning the dry ditch. The baileys, to the south and north-east, were encased by ramparts and ditches and one had an inner barbican but sadly they have been built over and little now remains.

. . and the clue about the churches is something along these lines "This Norwich Historic Churches Trust site provides architectural and historical details of all 36 Norwich Medieval Parish Churches with educational material and visiting information.
. . . .
Norwich has the largest number of medieval parish churches of any city in northern Europe." (This does not include the cathedral you could see in the second picture).

Sigurd
07-04-2007, 13:19
Catapract’s city:

I believe he has masked the orientation of this city.
The shadows on the picture is leaning north suggesting that North in the picture is West. This should suggest that the ocean/bay is south of the city. We probably want a city south in this costal nation.
The US vibe is giving small signals but this is not a classical example. This is obviously a wealthy city.
It is hard to tell if there is left-hand driving or right-hand driving.
There is congestion on one of the middle roads that put the traffic on the left side in front of a traffic light. I suspect however that this is due to the fact that it is a one way street. (All lanes are occupied). No roundabouts that I can see are usually an American trait.
Tennis courts amidst some interesting buildings; hotels?
Downtown apartments/business buildings north in the picture with seemingly narrow streets in-between suggests we are fairly close to the city centre.
A park area west in the picture with a amphitheatre… lots of parking along the roads southwest in the picture suggests a recreation area nearby. Typically a beach or the like.

An area of interest is the buildings surrounding the dome, is this industry area or a campus of some sort? There is some outdoor parking north of this area. There is also a large concrete half circle that could be the main entrance to this area.

Some red tiled buildings, but not many enough to suggest a place.
I see a construction area south in the picture… strong reddish colours in the dirt indicating dry and warm land.

This was a hard task… all though it should have been easy to recognize if you ever have seen this before. The main clue in my opinion is the downtown area… it is not typical US. The buildings seems quite tall.

KukriKhan
07-04-2007, 18:30
I agree: not US; and probably not Canadian either. Africa is out straight away, and Australia, tho' possible, is low on my list of probables, here.

A well-developed city, blending old and new architectural styles. Not a lot of housing apparent, so I agree it's the downtown area.

Funny that what I assume is water, has no boat slips or evidence of harbour facilities.

I'm gonna start with northern Europe, then the Med.

Sigurd
07-05-2007, 11:47
I must say, I am stumped on this one... It is a very nice city and unlike any I have ever seen.
Time for some clues...

Cataphract_Of_The_City
07-05-2007, 11:49
hehehe...i didn't think it would be that hard really.

You have a big clue in the path of the file. Also, if you like associations...Dan Brown. 6 degrees of difference. :P

Duke John
07-05-2007, 14:29
Quickly checked Athens and saw some similarities. Couldn't find any other big cities in Greece until I remembered that Greece has grown since ancient times and checked Thessaloniki! :tongue2:

What do you mean with the 6 degrees though? I thought the line Dan Brown wrote about some line going at least through Paris. And that is more than 6 degrees.

Duke John
07-05-2007, 14:48
barocca, whatever Stig is saying, this is not a photo of the Netherlands! :wink:

https://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3883/notquiteyinoryangmm6.jpg

Slightly re-oriented to get a nice picture, but up is still almost north.

Stig
07-05-2007, 14:50
Oh, Zandvoort ~D

Sigurd
07-05-2007, 15:02
Quickly checked Athens and saw some similarities. Couldn't find any other big cities in Greece until I remembered that Greece has grown since ancient times and checked Thessaloniki! :tongue2:

What do you mean with the 6 degrees though? I thought the line Dan Brown wrote about some line going at least through Paris. And that is more than 6 degrees.

Damn... I saw the p.grigorakis reference and I too thought of Greece. I took a swift look around the coast and I was even looking at Thessaloniki... Alas I was too high up.. and I somehow thought the downtown area were not similar... Good stumper M8...

Sigurd
07-05-2007, 15:05
Duke John's city is probably a close up picture of his mobo.
Nah, seriously...

The blood red dirt screams South Africa... do they speak dutch down there?

Duke John
07-05-2007, 15:14
They speak a different kind of dutch there. Quite funny how they name certain things: apparently they name a "vlinder" (butterfly) a "skoelapper". Not that South-African is necessarily the place... and not funny either, but I have to give hints in a not too obvious way, right?

Edit: barocca, as an addition to my previous tip for you: don't listen to Sigurd Fafnesbane either.

Stig
07-05-2007, 15:15
Afrikaans, which comes down to the fact they understand us and we understand them

Cataphract_Of_The_City
07-05-2007, 16:49
Quickly checked Athens and saw some similarities. Couldn't find any other big cities in Greece until I remembered that Greece has grown since ancient times and checked Thessaloniki! :tongue2:

What do you mean with the 6 degrees though? I thought the line Dan Brown wrote about some line going at least through Paris. And that is more than 6 degrees.

Bingo. :)

The top of the pic is NW actually and this is the downtown of Thessaloniki. It is a bit far from where the port (largest in Greece, low traffic though) is, so no ships can be seen. The circular, shiny building is the new bus station. In the top(ish) left you can see the White Tower (http://congress5.petet.org.gr/venue/images/the-white-tower-1) (former Ottoman prison). There are a lot of historical and neoclassical in the area of the pic but also many apartment blocks. The industrial-like large building in the bottom are exhibition centers. And the building complex with the tennis courts is the YMCA of Thessaloniki.

The association went like this: Dan Brown -> The Da Vinci Code -> Leonardo Da Vinci - > Mona Lisa -> The Louvre -> Nike of Samothrake -> Thessalonike.

6 degrees of separation. I guess it could be simpler. :P

Take it way Duke. :D

Duke John
07-06-2007, 10:15
Hmm, wikipedia wrote it looked like a butterfly or a plane, but having looked at it from a greater distance it definitely looks a lot more like a airplane than a butterfly.

And the keyword(s) for my submission is "city planning".

Duke John
07-09-2007, 08:05
https://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2868/birdiepo2.jpg

barocca
07-09-2007, 08:13
Brasilia??

Sigurd
07-09-2007, 08:43
Brasilia??
Nice...
The red dirt had me looking in Africa for a while.

Duke John
07-09-2007, 09:18
Brasilia indeed, barocca! It was planned entirely according to the principles of the french architect Le Corbusier.

barocca
07-09-2007, 22:22
From now on I listen only to your clues DJ,

here's mine

North is North and South is South and never the twain .. you get the idea,
but is it all mirrors and ???

https://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6950/scoutingoz9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

:clock:
B.

The Receptionist
07-10-2007, 03:10
hmm...

the picture has not been rotated...

that town is nowhere near where it appears to be...

"when the locals want to get away from it all,
they sail away in a volkswagen"

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/smilies/misc/belephant.gif
glory to the Black Dancing Elephant

barocca
07-10-2007, 07:10
hmm...

the picture has not been rotated...

that town is nowhere near where it appears to be...

"when the locals want to get away from it all,
they sail away in a volkswagen" all quite correct

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/smilies/misc/belephant.gif glory to the Black Dancing Elephant :elephant:
B.

KukriKhan
07-10-2007, 21:34
Port city, with facilities for uploading and off-loading large sea cargo; I don't see oil tankers or oil storage, so "other" cargo.

Very irregular street pattern, ruling out N. America, most of S. America & Europe. More likely it's Pacific, I think.

Some kind of race-course nearby (horses/dogs or vehicles?).

The 'scoutingOz' and 'nowhere near' clues seem to point me to asia-pacific.

Not Singapore
Not New Zealand.

Gonna start with Korea and go counter-clockwise.

edit: here's a funny thing. No Major roads leading to/from the docks, implying that this place imports more than it exports (on the assumption that exporters would want & build easy access to their ports from their inland mfg plants).

barocca
07-11-2007, 00:31
oki
seeing i dont like to let people go toooo far away

this country has a very valuable export, except the governement of their biggest export market hates them with a passion that defies understanding.
if you are caught with this export item you go to jail
- everywhere else in the world the item is perfectly legal - except many people argue it should not be.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
07-11-2007, 01:43
That leads me to believe that the export is either some kind of drug or arms, though I'm probably way off.

barocca
07-11-2007, 07:39
ah, but what sort of item is illegal in only one "country" on the planet?
and the citzens of that "country" cannot buy enough of the item,
why they have not overthrown their governement is, frankly, beyond me...

edit - now wy do you think i bolded the last statement???
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/editor/smilie.gif

Sigurd
07-11-2007, 08:33
Ah this is a nut...

The resolutiuon on my laptop is not sufficient to actually see anything.
I recognise a few things though.
The dirt is light brownish and dry - suggesting a warmer climate.
No blue roofs that I can see suggests this place is not found in the far east.
Is that a warship in that dock?

I guess we have to analyse the clues... something I am not good at.
He mentions the phrase:
North is North and South is South and never the twain... if I am not mistaken this indicates that one people is split in half - one to the north and one to the south. E.g. Ireland or Korea.
Someone made a reference to volkswagen - and I am thinking Mexico. but that doesn't fit in with the rest.
Then the export thing.. sounds like a backward nation in the third world...
I can't think of an item that is illegal only in one nation but legal in the rest of the world.

Oh wait... Sigars ??

Is this Havanna, Cuba?

[Edit]: I guess it is... Havanna is located north on the island but the harbour enters south and swings west and east with land to the north on the east side.

The ship is not a warship but some kind of transport ship with three white cargo holds on its fore deck.
The track to the west is actually a running track with a baseball field in the middle of it.

KukriKhan
07-11-2007, 12:46
Good deduction, Sigurd! (Note to self: blue roofs for Asia).

Yeah that all-purpose playing field also has a futbol pitch mapped out (in the center).

barocca
07-11-2007, 13:43
:yes:
excellent

my next clue was

the city of numlocs (and i am famous for???)
what i am famous for is bad spelling,
the city of numlocs becomes the city of columns... Havana Cuba

where people sail away in volkwagens, dodge trucks, anything you can nail some oil drums to and try to make it to USA - where the most valuable cuban export (cigars) is illegal,
(mirrors and - SMOKE!)

"north/south/never the twain" was meant to hint at the more common east is east and west is west - Cuba is in the West geographically, but in the East Ideologically :ballchain:

:bow:

Take it Away Sigurd

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/smilies/misc/belephant.gif glory to the Black Dancing Elephant :elephant:
B.

barocca
07-11-2007, 13:46
as for the overthrow governement that goes for both of you,
USA and Cuba - you both need to get off you butts and change governments

B.

Sigurd
07-11-2007, 14:01
Ok...

No clues at first.
(Damn the 800x600 max rule on photobucket... anyone know a free host that allows larger images?)

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/entryzzz.jpg

sapi
07-11-2007, 14:07
I've never encoutered a limit on imageshack.us

Duke John
07-11-2007, 16:40
The park reminds me of a zoo, but there doesn't seem to be enough space for seperated animals. Must be special since there are too many buildings for a regular park.
The building just to the right of it looks a bit like the Capitol (meaning classical and with a dome). The many sloped roofs with courtyards in the middle of the building blocks reminds me of France than US though. Traffic drives on the right.

barocca
07-11-2007, 19:42
screams east europe at me,
(at the very least old europe)
some clues before i spend bandwidth on searching please

Sigurd
07-11-2007, 22:58
This former King's city is one of the few that has an international name in addition to its native name.
At one time it was only called 'harbour'.

Stig
07-11-2007, 23:01
Kalinngrad (Konigsberg)

photobucket doesn't have a limit m8, but you have to take it of 800x600 and set it to 17 inch.

Sigurd
07-11-2007, 23:11
Kalinngrad (Konigsberg)
Sorry no...


photobucket doesn't have a limit m8, but you have to take it of 800x600 and set it to 17 inch.
I don't quite get what you are saying there m8...

Louis VI the Fat
07-12-2007, 00:09
Meh, I got killed in my mafia game. ( :furious3: ) So I'm back for a few rounds of Google Earth again!

Alas, I know the current city a bit all too well. There's no fun or honour in me giving the answer. I'll share a hint though, the building below is in his picture:

https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/94/hintpn7.jpg

Evil_Maniac From Mars
07-12-2007, 05:23
Is this Havanna, Cuba?


Good one. :2thumbsup:

Stig
07-12-2007, 08:52
I don't quite get what you are saying there m8...
You can set your only limit to the imagesize, somewhere in the settings

barocca
07-12-2007, 08:58
a shot in the dark
Peking / Beijing

Sigurd
07-12-2007, 09:01
a shot in the dark
Peking / Beijing

I think Louis' picture did more harm than help...
No it is not Peking.

barocca
07-12-2007, 09:02
st petersburg
(there are an awful lot of cities that are "former kings cities")

Sigurd
07-12-2007, 09:09
st petersburg
(there are an awful lot of cities that are "former kings cities")

It is not st. Petersburg...
The King's city is not the only clue :sweatdrop:

edit: I found a temporary solution to the problem with small pictures though it is not exactely what I wanted.
For those of you that like me have a screen resolution of 1280x1024 you only have to decrease it to 1024x768 to see the details in the picture.
It would have been better however to store the pictures in 1024x768 to get the sharp details.

barocca
07-12-2007, 09:11
yar - but a google on cities with international and native names got me over 100 (especially in asia)
and with cities like Myanmar/Mandalay being a city of two names and a former royal city to boot we can keep going for days...

so Myanmar/Mandalay

Sigurd
07-12-2007, 09:16
yar - but a google on cities with international and native names got me over 100 (especially in asia)
and with cities like Myanmar/Mandalay being a city of two names and a former royal city to boot we can keep going for days...

so Myanmar/Mandalay

Sorry no,
I was more thinking of the third clue.

Duke John
07-12-2007, 09:19
Louis' building is a restaurant. France is famous for its cuisine, so I kept thinking France. Yet, the former king's cities that I know are not it. No geometrical road layout and or dense medieval blocks.

Eastern Europe, he?

...there is a church in the topleft with a square tower. So not orthodox.

In France there is a town called "Le Havre". But it doesn't seem to match. It was founded by a King.

Sigurd
07-12-2007, 09:23
edit.. duplicate (???)

Sigurd
07-12-2007, 09:25
Let's add to the clues.

This city became a place of commerce which added a word to it's former name. It became a threat to the Hanseatic League which attacked it repeatedly.

Duke John
07-12-2007, 09:36
Kopenhavn! Which has absolutely nothing to do with a Frenchman and Japanese restaurant :wink:

Edit: and just as I was writing this I noticed a flashing PM. Trust me barocca that I found it on my own. But you would have been quicker, so thanks for allowing me to post it first. It felt like a race to see who got it first, nice :grin:

Sigurd
07-12-2007, 09:45
Kopenhavn! Which has absolutely nothing to do with a Frenchman and Japanese restaurant :wink:

Edit: and just as I was writing this I noticed a flashing PM. Trust me barocca that I found it on my own. But you would have been quicker, so thanks for allowing me to post it first. It felt like a race to see who got it first, nice :grin:

Correct!!!

The international name is the german: Copenhagen and the danish native name is København or Kjøbmandehavn (Merchants' harbour) During the late Viking age it was just kalled Havn or harbour.
In scandinavia it was called the King's city. As you know Norway shared at one time the Danish King. We also imported a king from Denmark of which our current king is the grandson.

Duke John
07-12-2007, 10:30
The contrast in the picture below struck me and which is apparent in the whole city and not just in this part.

https://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5430/escapema4.jpg

Sigurd
07-12-2007, 11:15
Just a quick observation to narrow down our search...

An airport with what appears to be two Boeing 737 machines and a Boeing 777 machine.
A lot of yellow cabs in the parking lot outside the airport.
A slum area next to the airport with a river and what appears to be rice fields. I am saying slum because there are no visible roads between the housing.

This is obviously in Asia somewhere.
Where does airplanes nearly land in the city...

Hong Kong?
(I haven't looked in google earth yet)

edit: hmm looking at Hong Kong it seems they have closed down the city airport...

barocca
07-12-2007, 23:19
if the game is going to be "post picture and give no clues"
then i cant wait to get my next shot
B.

Louis VI the Fat
07-13-2007, 00:06
I can't figure it out either. I tried some places, from Egypt to Pakistan to Indonesia, but no luck...

Sorry about that pagoda picture, that was mean. It is a restaurant in Tivoli, in the centre of Kopenhagen.

KukriKhan
07-13-2007, 00:47
Following Sigurd's hunches, I checked out Asia's major Int'l airports (figuring it must be large enough to accomodate such jumbo jets).

Those yellow cabs intrigued me. I saw none, anywhere in the cities I reviewed. Finally, I moved west, zoomed in on India/Pakistan, and there it was (after about 5 false leads):

Chattrapathi Shivaji International Airport , Mumbai, India (formerly Bombay), the busiest airport in India & south asia.

I can't say I used much deduction (except to rule out NYC, the other "yellow cab" capital of the world). It was just a matter of hopping airport to airport, looking for 300+ cabs assembled near the terminals, finding none, then moving on, until I stumbled over Mumbai.

Whew! Are my arms tired. :)

------------------------------------
edit: assuming I'm correct, here's another tasty morsel on which to feast your eyes:

https://jimcee.homestead.com/Goog4_op_800x654.jpg

Hint #1: This city, established in the 1600's, has changed names, and hands, many times in its history. It's current name is based on the name of a national hero, a statue of whom sits in the square you see.

barocca
07-13-2007, 07:36
FYI
New York State has over 300 towns that have changed names
(and hands - with brit and canadian invasions) in their history...:shocked:

still looking
B.

Duke John
07-13-2007, 08:21
if the game is going to be "post picture and give no clues"
The hint was: "The contrast in the picture below struck me and which is apparent in the whole city and not just in this part."
Mumbai is quite known for its slums in the heart of the city, quite unusual as they usually are on its fringes. Project developers want the slum dwellers out of there, but most of them do not accept the new housing in which they will then be put. The contrast in the picture was slums versus ecomonic prosperity, which characterizes the whole city.

The hint was also in the picture itself. I thought in this game it was quite common that google is used to find cities. If you typed in "airport slums", or if you guessed the country right "india slums" then the first link would bring you to Mumbai. Because of this I first wanted to wait a few more responses (only Sigurd had responded when I last logged on) until I gave more clues.

Cheers,
Rob

KukriKhan
07-13-2007, 13:00
FYI
New York State has over 300 towns that have changed names
(and hands - with brit and canadian invasions) in their history...:shocked:

still looking
B.

Good point. :laugh4:

So, Hint #2: It's not in NY state, and neither Brit nor Canadian forces have ever (so far) invaded here.

Hint #3: The city is quite high in elevation ~4,500 ft.

barocca
07-13-2007, 15:11
DJ - apologies old friend, but even after the answer to the clue I dont see slums there, i noticed the farmland and the craziness of having such right next to an airport (toxic fumes)


Kukri - Ulan Bator (Ulaanbaatar Mongolia)

KukriKhan
07-14-2007, 04:01
Ulan Bator (Ulaanbaatar Mongolia)


is correct! Good job.

Take it away barocca.

Wrestlers at the Naalamm festival there
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41882000/jpg/_41882504_wrestlers-ap416.jpg

barocca
07-14-2007, 21:53
https://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4814/dasboot571bg5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Hint #1: This city, established thousands of years ago, has changed names, changed hands, and been utterly destroyed many times in its history.
It's current name is not based on the name of a national hero, a statue of whom is the center of focus for the road network.

B.

barocca
07-15-2007, 12:46
Hint #2: Surprising because of it's location, the city has a decent Korean minority.

KukriKhan
07-15-2007, 15:41
Hmmm... Korean expat communities.

Vancouver BC, Canada vegetation looks similar, but can't find that street pattern.

Munich, Bavaria, Germany, not enough trees to match the image.

Bangkok, Thailand, also not enough trees, and more heavily populated than the image.

Paris, France, can't match the street pattern.

Los Angeles, US; not enough freeways :) and not 'thousands years old'.

Mexico City, Mexico; can't match street pattern.

OK, I'm not getting it with the hints. What do I see?

Tree-lined streets that radiate out from a central point eastward (ala the ancient 'mound' fort/city design), but grid-style westward. Near the center, a blue-roofed dome (orthodox christian? or mosque?); also some long and tallish buildings, suggesting gov't offices.

Alright then; I'm off to eastern Europe on a hunch.

barocca
07-15-2007, 22:48
Hint #3: When Genghis Kahn arrived to sack the city he was most upset to find someone else had done so but a few years earlier and the city had not yet recovered (ie - not much loot).
In a tiff Genghis destroyed the city.

KukriKhan
07-16-2007, 02:18
Ahh... the old Genghis neighborhood. One of the 'stans' likely.

edit: Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A surprisingly nice looking city, judging from the photographs.

LoL; what I ID'd as a possible religious site was the Amir Timur Museum.
http://static3.bareka.com/photos/medium/1248266/amir-timur-museum.jpg.

KukriKhan
07-16-2007, 03:51
No Yellow taxi's in this town. Here, they're either red (regular) or white (limo's).

https://jimcee.homestead.com/googerth6.jpg

Duke John
07-16-2007, 08:26
Oi! I wanted to host that city! :wink:

Since I recognized it instantly I'll skip this one. Never watched the movie though.

Sigurd
07-16-2007, 10:16
I just found out what red taxi really means.. :sweatdrop:

barocca
07-16-2007, 10:18
a four hour search narrowed down the list of cities who have only red taxis to four,
and none of them are that pic...
In other words the www is missing at least one city from the list of "red taxi only"
- another clue please

KukriKhan
07-16-2007, 12:50
This city of 3 million+ inhabitants, lies in a country that resisted colonization until the early 1900's. It is not a colony today.

edit: Sigurd: gotta stay away from those 'urban dictionaries', lest you get grossed out. I meant nothing of the kind, of course. Taxicabs

Sigurd
07-16-2007, 13:05
Sigurd: gotta stay away from those 'urban dictionaries', lest you get grossed out.
:laugh4:

Sigurd
07-16-2007, 13:28
Are not Louis playing?

I guess it is his turn..
It was the movie reference and the red dirt (not red taxi) that made me find this city.
And ... I have not seen the movie either (just thought I should put that in... :sweatdrop: )

barocca
07-16-2007, 13:29
cities of 3 mill are a dime a dozen, (rats and double rats)

countries that resisted colonisation until the 1900's include phillipines, ghana, mexico (some tribes never submitted until after independence from spain) and even australia (according to some aboriginies the war goes on today)

(good clues tho')

intrigued (sleep time, i'll thunk again in the morning)
B.

Louis VI the Fat
07-16-2007, 19:11
I am playing, Sigurd! Those two central Asian cities had me stumped. They have so many cultural influences that I just didn't know where to even begin looking. (note to self: a potpourri of influences = central Asia). They look Asian, AND European, AND euro-colonial....
By the time I was beginning to get a clue they were guessed already.

The current city is easy, people have guessed it already I see. It almost looks southern French, but not quite. So French colonial probably: North Africa, Beirut. The movie reference made me check Casablanca.

Louis VI the Fat
07-16-2007, 19:40
Let's see what you all make of this:


https://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6417/ville2wq0.jpg


Up is north. The picture was taken directly from Google Maps with the edges cut off for effect.

barocca
07-16-2007, 20:59
i do not think we should accept such modification to an image,
blotting out the long/lat bar is fine,
but not cutting away entire sections of the city

Evil_Maniac From Mars
07-17-2007, 01:20
Well, most of the time the entire city isn't included in the picture anyway, so I don't see what's wrong with it. A sizeable chunk of the city is shown.

KukriKhan
07-17-2007, 04:06
This is another of Louis's planned communities, of which he is enamored (understandably; I am too).

At first blush, it doesn't look american/canadian, rather asian or former-soviet. But the strict diagonal layout defies classification as any particular continent's 'style' of civic planning.

This place was originally laid out on some student/teacher's grid paper, I think, with green areas strategically located, LOCs (lines of communication/roads) placed for maximum efficiency, and central assembly areas located at center, and 1 and 2 o'clock. I daresay that, even on foot, a resident living at 7 o'clock, could arrive at that race-track-looking area within two hours, with arms, or betting money, or a vote.

So I suspect: an american-educated city-planner somewhere in the former ussr "built" this city.

I'm off to Poland, and central/eastern europe for this one.

p.s. Although I appreciate Louis's intent in focusing our attention on a coo-o-ol geographic pattern, I also gotta give props to barocca's lament and appeal for context. In terms of this image interpretation game that we play here, knowing/seeing the surrounding farmland-swamp-desert-whatever, would help folks guess the region, and focus their search.

pps: Thanks for the north orientation:bow:. After google-searching whatever clues are provided, it's helpful to know one needn't reorient ones map to find the image.

Louis VI the Fat
07-17-2007, 05:34
I don't see what's wrong with my picture? Cutting off the edges is not different from zooming in a level. The only difference is that now the visible area is cut it off diagonally instead of horizontally and vertically, which was done to keep the peculair shape of the objext intact.
And this game is not meant to be easy! We're here to pose fiendishily difficult questions for each other..

But here's the city again:

https://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8256/ville1re4.png

KukriKhan
07-17-2007, 13:39
Hmmm... I wonder if that is fuel or water storage to the north-east - and is that the southern tip of an airport/airstrip up there also.

Zooming in, I don't see vehicles - very strange. Maybe I just missed them.

My preliminary guess: we're looking at a mid-sized, not-ancient city, a product of urban planning, somewhere in China. The purpose of this city is not immediately obvious. What do they do there besides live and breathe? What do they make there?

*goes off to look at random chinese cities of 125K - 250K population.*

Sigurd
07-17-2007, 14:57
It is indeed a strange location...
The surrounding landscape looks like the northern hemisphere above the warmer climate.
I think this might be a larger than 250K city (My hometown is a 250K city).
Where are the trains? and why does that belt around the main block look green?
In the larger picture there is a stadium. I wonder what they play there...

I wish for a closeup of this city to get my bearings on religion, traffic, housing etc..

edit: I wonder if the green belt is infact train tracks that moves around the large grid city.

Louis VI the Fat
07-17-2007, 16:31
I wish for a closeup of this city to get my bearings on religion, traffic, housing etc..Always happy to oblige:

https://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4003/eglisekt1.jpg



Actually, I had three pictures ready for hints, at different zoom levels. Two you've seen already, the third one zoomes in very closely. But that last one would give too many hints for this stage of the guessing. I will post it later. For now, the hints are:
the above picture
the city has between 500 000 and 1 000 000 inhabitants
it's not in China

Sigurd
07-17-2007, 21:48
I hate to say it... but I am stomped.

I can't seem to identify the cars on the picture nor the shape of their number plates.
The red pickup seems American.
The white next to it seems like a Fiat Uno.
The next white seems to be a pickup of some sort... Yugo?
The beige... is unknown Seat/ Citröen/Asian?
There is another white behind the blue which is rater big.
The blue looks like a Citröen Xsara Picasso.
Two cars enter the picture a red unknown and a black SUV, also unknown.
The silver small car could either be a Peugot 106 or a Fiat Palio...
All cars seem a little off though...

The church, a beautiful cathedral, does not look catholic to me but rather Protestant.
We can barely see some high-rise apartments in the background.
There is also another car parked outside the doorway, it has a strange contraption attached to it.

This is all I got from the picture… which is : the town is western.
In Canada somewhere?
The shape of those numberplates would have helped a lot

Louis VI the Fat
07-17-2007, 22:46
Hints:

-They speak a Latin language in this city.
-The city plan is not just geometrical, it is also highly symbolical. You can see this most clearly in the first picture, which shows only the part of the city of the original plan. For example, it is build up of a basic pattern of 6 x 6 groups of 6 x 6 blocks...:skull:
(You don't need to guess the meanings of the symbolism, but you could try to guess to which group the architects belonged. ~;) )

KukriKhan
07-18-2007, 01:50
I shudda known... no blue roofs = not asia, LoL.

So a Masonic layout then. And I never would have imagined that bright blue sky over the first images Louis posted.

Let's see what Mssr. Google has to say about Masonic city layouts.

edit: that red pickup truck with the camper on the rear = the americas. I'm so embarrassed. Latin language, hmm...

barocca
07-18-2007, 06:48
La Plata
B.

edit -
the only clue i got was "speak latin" = south america's

as for the rest of the clues, no comprende'
(i deduced plains and approximate latitude from the pic)
(and next time we need to remember to search on freemason as well as masonic)

Sigurd
07-18-2007, 08:53
barocca nailed it...

This was a tough one. But I had fun searching and I even involved my wife who had a go at it.
I guess the cathedral is Catholic after all ?

barocca
07-18-2007, 10:56
... I even involved my wife..:shocked:
lmao - me too - my missus is also enjoying these,
she said to say a special thank you to Louis for all the fun clues :yes:
:bow:
B.

barocca
07-18-2007, 13:39
https://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1583/eastpole2qq4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
:yes: :bow: <-- that is a clue...

Duke John
07-18-2007, 14:39
Briefly scanned China, but could not find this pattern. Must be something special?

About the smilies; a nodding normal smiley and a nodding eastern smiley. East meets west?

It reminds me of communist district layouts...

Sigurd
07-18-2007, 15:04
Briefly scanned China, but could not find this pattern. Must be something special?
About the smilies; a nodding normal smiley and a nodding eastern smiley. East meets west?
It reminds me of communist district layouts...

The picture path names the picture 'east pole'... you might be on to something.
I shall have a look when I get home from work.

Louis VI the Fat
07-18-2007, 18:55
I tried Vladivostok, but no luck. I couldn't even zoom in to the proper level. My first instinct is Siberia. But the city is on the coast...
China, North Korea maybe?
Also, are we looking at the world's ugliest city?

***

La Plata (http://www.laplata-argentina.com.ar/indexarquitectura.html) site with pictures. The public buildings and layout of the city are great, but alas, the city never lived up to it's promise, owing to 1930's modernism and Argentinas slow economical decline. Pity, it held such such promise as a hybrid between old and new world. The story of Argentina in general really. ~:mecry:

Here's a great essay (http://lasur.epfl.ch/revue/A&C%20Vol%204%20No.1/GARNIER.pdf). In French though. The second paragraph offers a brief English summary, and there are some good drawings.
I so wish I was a planologist in the nineteenth century! Then I could go to the Americas and play Simcity on a giant scale, designing cities, nay societies, from scratch.

KukriKhan
07-18-2007, 23:48
Checked the top 9 Siberian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Siberian_Cities_Graph.svg) cities without joy. But, I certainly agree, that those 9 have similar street/neighborhood patterns to barocca's selection, so I think we're in the right part of the world.

barocca
07-19-2007, 00:10
~:grouphug: <-- another clue

- from this city the Dark Lords command https://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5936/darth1it4.gif

- Descendents of William Wallace live here :charge:

B.

(edit - my speeelling)

Cataphract_Of_The_City
07-19-2007, 00:36
Also, are we looking at the world's ugliest city?

That would be Athens. :P

KukriKhan
07-19-2007, 00:40
~:grouphug: <-- another clue

- from this city the Dark Lords command https://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5936/darth1it4.gif

- Descendents of William Wallace live here :charge:

B.

(edit - my speeelling)

grouphug, Dark Lords...
I thought Braveheart died without kids?

barocca
07-19-2007, 07:43
in the movie no kids,
in real life several lovers/wives

- the Dark Lords are themselves rebel scum!!! https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7276/rebelscumpw5.gif
(no doubt influenced by the aforementioned imaginary relatives
- actually they WERE influenced by the aformentioned imaginary relatives)

- the Dark Lords hold a castle here to this day https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9844/death2jf9.gif

B.

barocca
07-19-2007, 09:14
the star wars theme has nothing to do with the city
- just having fun making smileys... (borrow a couple/make a couple)
B.

Duke John
07-19-2007, 09:48
Grouphug = mixed nationalities
Dark holds hold a castle here to this day = Judging from the relatively modern look of the town I think castle means a government building.
From this city the dark lords command = either a capital city or a city which acts as a base for the government.
Darklords are rebelscum = an oppressed state? By China or Russia most likely.

barocca
07-19-2007, 10:12
DJ has some right and some wrong
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/852/castle3dk1.gif
B.

EDIT that pic is a clue

barocca
07-19-2007, 22:51
lets review the clues and add a clue (that i consider a giveaway)

:yes: :bow: <-- that is a clue... - a clue to the country

~:grouphug: <-- another clue - a clue to the country (and the city)

- from this city the Dark Lords command https://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5936/darth1it4.gif - a clue to the city

- Descendents of William Wallace live here :charge: - a clue to the country and city

- the Dark Lords are themselves rebel scum!!! https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7276/rebelscumpw5.gif - a clue to the city

(no doubt influenced by the aforementioned imaginary relatives
- actually they WERE influenced by the aformentioned imaginary relatives) - a clue to the country and city

- the Dark Lords hold a castle here to this day https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9844/death2jf9.gif - a clue to the city

- https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/852/castle3dk1.gif <-- this is their castle - a clue to the city

- the country where this city is don't like annexures, they will instead burn down the house. - a clue to the country

B.

Louis VI the Fat
07-19-2007, 23:58
Hamilton. In Ontario, Canada. :sweatdrop:

KukriKhan
07-20-2007, 01:30
Hamilton. In Ontario, Canada. :sweatdrop:

Yeah I see it (from 29,000 feet up), though my vid card make the image a lot brighter than that shown above.

I can't wait for the big reveal of how the clues relate to Hamilton.

Bravo, Louis! What was your method?

Louis VI the Fat
07-20-2007, 03:37
I slowly started to think we were looking at a North american city. What I thought looked like a Siberian city could also be a suburbian landscape. And then there was that mixed Scottish / Asian hint...
I tried Seattle, Vancouver, even Washington. (Dark Lords and all that...)
Oh, and Glasgow and Aberdeen in Scotland too.
Well at least I guessed the latitude and the cold climate somewhat right.

I suspected the dark lords may have refered to freemasons, but a quick google search led me nowhere. The last clue was the one I needed: 'the country where this city is don't like annexures, they will instead burn down the house'. Now it sounded like it was in Canada: a reference to the burning of the (white) house in 1812. Even so it was a lucky shot. I actually tried Toronto, and luckily a little to the south I glimsped a harbour that looked just like the one in the picture: Hamilton's.

Louis VI the Fat
07-20-2007, 03:39
Especially for Barocca - I know how much he loves geometrical cityscapes: ~;p


https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7043/baroccawh0.png


https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3976/ville9sy9.png


https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8420/ville8wi5.png


https://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9366/ville6nd0.png



Thought I'd try a different approach for a change. ~;)
All four pictures are from the same city.

Good luck!

The Receptionist
07-20-2007, 04:15
reading about Hamilton on wiki,
and following some links gave me this about Barocca's clues


:yes: :bow: <-- that is a clue... - a clue to the country. Canadians are universally recognised as friendly and agreeable


~:grouphug: <-- another clue - a clue to the country (and the city).Canadians again - and Hamilton has a large number of expat communities


- from this city the Dark Lords command https://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5936/darth1it4.gif - a clue to the city.The National Office of the Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of Canada is here


- Descendents of William Wallace live here :charge: - a clue to the country and city.Scots


- the Dark Lords are themselves rebel scum!!! https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7276/rebelscumpw5.gif - a clue to the city.Canadian Scot Freemasons split from the English in 1855


(no doubt influenced by the aforementioned imaginary relatives
- actually they WERE influenced by the aformentioned imaginary relatives) - a clue to the country and city .it is the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of Canada - Scots are always troublesome


- the Dark Lords hold a castle here to this day https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9844/death2jf9.gif - a clue to the city.The Grand Rite of The National Office of the Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of Canada


- https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/852/castle3dk1.gif <-- this is their castle - a clue to the city.The Grand Rite of The National Office of the Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of Canada



- the country where this city is don't like annexures, they will instead burn down the house. - a clue to the country.
Burning the White House

:wall:

barocca
07-20-2007, 13:05
well done Louis,
and nice pics too


I am seeing a semi-arid zone (not many trees),
(a bit drier than around here - which is pretty dry right now...)
densely populated - not many trees in the yards,
in fact not much in the way of open space in those grid blocks...
(some trees in the main streets??)

the octagon looks to be in the "better" part of town

somewhere in India??

Louis VI the Fat
07-20-2007, 19:39
Hints:

-For La Pata, there was a clear reason why I focused on the city lay out, it is that city's claim to fame. This is not true for the current city - the pictures I posted is just me being playful.
-Well there is one more additional reason: the current city is rather big, and lacks a clear shape. It is just a big blob, so I focused in on some details.
-Here is picture five, another neighbourhood:

https://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5696/ville5qd4.png

barocca
07-20-2007, 20:11
rather big officially or rather big perceptually?
is it made up of half a dozen cities all tied together (like mine - brisbane/logan/ipswich/redcliffe/pine river)??
or is it one single city?

barocca
07-20-2007, 20:41
for some reason i keep coming back to kolkata - even though i cant see these neighbourhoods.

tell you one thing the grass sure looks aussie to me,
this had better not be somewhere like melbourne, cause that a whole other country down there,
not even sure they speak english...
(dated a melbourne girl one time and i'm STILL not sure they speak english...)

barocca
07-21-2007, 05:05
say Louis these clues are nowhere near as interesting as your last lot,
36 hours and no-one is guessing 'cause no-one has any idea.

a big amorphous blob of a city with a few neat geometric features for which the city is Not famous leaves us absolutely lost.


may we please have a couple of clues to sink our teeth into

B's missus and B.

Louis VI the Fat
07-21-2007, 07:16
Hints galore!

- The 'GDP' of this city is higher than that of the whole of Queensland
- The Philippines were once administered from this city
- Parts of the city are on the UNESCO World Heritage list
- Germany, England and Italy each suffered crushing defeats here
- The city has been the centre of several empires
- The city was struck by an earthquake in the 20th century
- In the year that Constantinople fell, this city was larger than Rome, London or Moscow
- Here's a comprehensive picture, centered on the city centre:

https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3627/villecomplethx0.png

barocca
07-21-2007, 10:25
i am sooooo embarrased
i searched here but missed the neighbourhoods Louis highlighted

tell us more about the octagon thingy (i cant find it)

and germany fought here????

Mexico City
(the phillipine clue - New Spain administered all foreign territories of Spain, and New Spain's Capital was Mexico City)

Stig
07-21-2007, 10:29
Permission to say "Oh Cock" on the Org.

I knew that one, damn you Barocca :furious3:

barocca
07-21-2007, 10:51
this city of some 2 million people changed its name to that of a king who never ruled here, nor did he rule over the people who live here.

https://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6185/geolouis1fs3.jpg

https://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1476/geolouis2bj7.jpg

https://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9365/geolouis3yr0.jpg
B.

PS - i hope you like the geometry Louis, i tried to find four good ones, but thats about it for this city...

Louis VI the Fat
07-21-2007, 23:27
I think your city is in India or Pakistan, but I can't find it.
(yet :knight: )


tell us more about the octagon thingy (i cant find it)
I don't know anything about it. It is located directly next to the airport, at the southwestern tip of the airport. You can see it in my last picture, go right from the green arrow.

and germany fought here????
No. But they did lose 3-2 to Argentina in 1986. ~;)
England lost to the hand of God in the same year. Italy suffered its crushing 4-1 defeat to Brazil in 1970.
It's a football reference, Mexico hosted two World Cups, and these three games were all played in the Aztec Stadium in Mexico City.

barocca
07-21-2007, 23:57
I think your city is in India or Pakistan, but I can't find it.
(yet :knight: )keep looking...



and germany fought here????It's a football referenceyou are a man who gives evil clues... :bow:

more clues coming right up....

barocca
07-22-2007, 00:06
the city is growing rapidly today, with some 20 building projects in the works,
mainly shopping malls and office blocks.

a number of famous sports stars, politicians, musicians and even an actor or two hail from here,
(it is unlikely you'll see the actors in "H"ollywood, but you may see them in...)

the list of colleges and universities here is impressive!

(looking for more clues for you as at the moment)

barocca
07-22-2007, 00:36
i removed the country name from these (understandable??)
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5366/geolouis4el7.jpg

barocca
07-22-2007, 02:07
hmm

I found this city while searching for Louis' very geometric one, :daisy:
i found it by name,

i just noticed cruising the skies for it wont be easy
- it's not on the google map :shocked:
(the city's name does not show on the map) :clock:

so here are some more clues

https://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6214/geolouis5yw4.jpg

https://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4573/geolouis6fq4.jpg

https://img242.imageshack.us/img242/801/geolouis7oz9.jpg

https://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3560/geolouis8gh3.jpg

https://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1029/geolouis9jz6.jpg

i'd love to tell which well known international hotel chain is building here right now, :ballchain:
but that would google & wiki a hit instantly.... :yes:

i can tell you it shares a square with New York - but that wont help you, for some bizarre reason that "clue" does not google, neither does it wiki
(:dizzy2: :inquisitive:)

:blank:

Myrddraal
07-22-2007, 03:09
Faisalabad, Pakistan

:sweatdrop:

That was HARD. I'm not sure I like this game!

Louis VI the Fat
07-22-2007, 03:09
a number of famous sports stars, politicians, musicians and even an actor or two hail from here,
(it is unlikely you'll see the actors in "H"ollywood, but you may see them in...)...Bollywood. That would mean it's Bombay / Mumbai then.

But I can't find the pictures?

Edit: Never mind. It is Faisalabad, Pakistan indeed.


That was HARD. I'm not sure I like this game!Of course you do!

And the other half of the fun is posting a picture and seeing us wasting our time checking all over Siberia when you know all along it's in Papua New Guinea.
So bring it on! Let's see what you come up with.

Myrddraal
07-22-2007, 03:22
Ok thinking. City coming soon.

Myrddraal
07-22-2007, 03:42
Keeping with the geometric patterns

https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2695/yourecheatingmmmmy7.jpg

I guess you want clues now eh? You'll have to give me a bit more time to come up with some...

EDIT: CLUE #1:
The stadium you see has an atheletics track but is mainly used for Football (soccer) games. It recently played host to a major concert, despite the fact that it shouldn't have still been standing.

Stig
07-22-2007, 08:33
In a pure guess I'm going for Johannesburg, concert being Live Earth ofcourse

barocca
07-22-2007, 08:43
i got nothin'

barocca
07-22-2007, 13:04
bucharest romania?
i think thats it
- i took a quick look at some sample soccer stadiums to get an idea of size/capacity and i noticed the street architecture is very euro,
especially east euro,
then merely went to cities with major stadiums in east europe one by one,
moscow, kyiv, bucharest...

KukriKhan
07-22-2007, 14:19
Hmmm.. I'm looking at Dinamo Stadium in Bucharest, and see much similar, but not an exact match. Can you give us lat/long readings of your find, barocca?

edit: nevermind. I pulled back and found Lia Manoliu Stadium, east of Dinamo. Bravo b!

p.s. the method you cite: guess the region by street layout, etc, then hop around, is how I play also. Trouble is, as Louis observes, if I guessed Siberia, when its Pago-Pago, I'm screwed. :laugh4:

barocca
07-22-2007, 20:54
pic first
https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5444/oddity1bp5.jpg

this surprising city of less than a million people was named for it's founder in the mid 1800's,

the local language is different to the national language but almost everyone speaks both,

a major local tourist center in the summer and an international tourist center (for those in the know) all year round,

this previously military city has turned it's focus to eductation without forgetting it's roots,

this city is almost definately not where you think it is...

B.

Stig
07-22-2007, 21:12
It somehow makes me think of something in Spain, but I bet I'm wrong

Myrddraal
07-23-2007, 01:56
I'd bet that it was in South Australia. The founding date would fit and the colours and layout seem to match with most towns in South Eastern Australia except the massive contrast with the road layout in the bottom right of the picture, they make me think of South America for some reason...

BUT:
this city is almost definately not where you think it is...

So I can safely say that it almost definately is not in Australia :smile:

EDIT:
The other annoying thing is the language thing. I don't really know but I was under the impression that most of Australia spoke English as their first language. So more evidence that it's not where I think it is.

Sigurd
07-23-2007, 07:57
Back from a intense weekend++ with a 60 year birthday party of one of my wife's uncles = family from around the world came visiting and some lived in our house...

Hmmm... I see I missed a few of the cities.

I guess barocca is on the roll here.
His latest city looks Asian with the mixed colour rooves and the tell-tale blues.
I don't believe Australia has poorer areas like those found in the bottom right.
They have mostly grey or white rooves though which is found in hotter nations ala Arabian, persian etc.

Louis VI the Fat
07-23-2007, 08:58
Some thoughts:

The shades tell it's in the northern hemisphere.
I think those are slums, which means a poor, at least socially highly stratisfied country.
The climate looks semi-arid, the surroundings hilly / mountainous.

I think it's in Asia too. But other than that? And those clues are intruiging, but my Google-fu is failing me.

barocca
07-23-2007, 09:09
oh oh oh oh...

https://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4241/oddity2nl1.jpg

where XYZ is the surname of the cities founder :-
the literal translation of the city name is "XYZ abode"

the cities founder lived here for merely 8 years,
and was very sad to leave

wind hissing
pines swaying
the tiny cuckoo sang

technical institutes, medical colleges, post graduate colleges, federal high schools, private and governement boarding schools, military colleges, military academy the city is full of schools

:ballchain: :bow: B.

Duke John
07-23-2007, 09:35
Abbottabad, Afghanistan. Another googlemaps-forgotten city.

After a few random searches I just entered "a tiny cuckoo sang" in google which led me to the Abbottabad poem:

I remember the day when I first came here

And smelt the sweet Abbottabad air

The trees and ground covered with snow
Gave us indeed a brilliant white glow

To me place seemed like a dream
And far ran a lonesome stream

The wind hissed as if welcoming us
The pine swayed creating a lot of fuss

And the tiny cuckoo sang it away
A song very melodious and gay

I adored the place from the first sight

And was happy that my coming here was right

And eight good years here passed very soon
And we leave our perhaps on a sunny day

Oh! Abbottabad we are leaving you now
To your natural beauty do I bow

Perhaps your wind's sound will never reach my ear
My gift for you is a tear

I bid you farewell with a heavy heart
Never from my mind will you memories thwart

barocca
07-23-2007, 09:39
you can see why i chose it,
a city of contrasts - i thought "that is sooo australian looking!!"

take it away DJ
:bow:

Duke John
07-23-2007, 10:00
Choo Choo!

https://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6324/choochoogu5.jpg

barocca
07-23-2007, 10:47
Saint Petersburg (leningrad)??

Duke John
07-23-2007, 10:48
Nope.

barocca
07-23-2007, 10:58
i see coastal city
east bloc architecture
huge railway depot
stadium in the 30K capacity

but it aint st petersburg...

another clue?

Stig
07-23-2007, 11:05
Don't forget the little forest you see