Dîn-Heru
04-17-2007, 20:19
How much power do the CoC have over Papacy policy?
The other day in my Hungarian campaign I had been allied to the Pope for something like 60 turns. I did not have many cardinals, (3 at the most), as my priests seemed to prefer heresy to rising in the ranks, but I did not really care because I was seen as very reliable and had an outstanding, atleast, relation to the Pope. I even gave him Durazzo as a gift.
I had been at war with HRE for as long as I can remember, they started it and the only attacks I made on them after breaking their siege of Budapest was a few sporadic sabotage attempts.
Cardinals died and I noticed that more and more of them hail from the HRE. As I have mentioned, my relation to the Pope was fairly good, so it did not worry me that the cardinals came from HRE. Then all of a sudden I get the cease and desist warning about the HRE. Thinking fine, I have not done anything offensive against them other than the formentioned sabotage attempts so I will just continue on the war against the Byz and the 1st crusade (which was not called until well into the 60th rounds..).
Then all of a sudden Venice attacks one of my ports out of nowhere.. And to my great surprise my alliance with the Papacy is in tatters, (venice had allied to them a few turns earlier), our relation had dropped to so-so and the number of crosses were down to 5 from 8 or 9.
Wondering what the hell just happened I saw that the seats in the CoC were distributed like this:
HRE 5 (1 preferati) relations abysmal
Venice 2 (1 pref.) relations so- so
Poland 1 (pref.) (allied through two marriages) (50+ turns, relations so-so)
Sicily 2 (allied so-so, they also have the Pope)
France 1 (allied reasonable)
Milan 1 (neutral so-so)
1 vacant
So 7-5 in favour of my enemies..
This raises the question of how much power the CoC has and the importance of having a majority of the seats. So do anybody know if my fears are true? Have HRE and Venice berated me enough to make the Pope disregard 70 turns of faithful service?
The other day in my Hungarian campaign I had been allied to the Pope for something like 60 turns. I did not have many cardinals, (3 at the most), as my priests seemed to prefer heresy to rising in the ranks, but I did not really care because I was seen as very reliable and had an outstanding, atleast, relation to the Pope. I even gave him Durazzo as a gift.
I had been at war with HRE for as long as I can remember, they started it and the only attacks I made on them after breaking their siege of Budapest was a few sporadic sabotage attempts.
Cardinals died and I noticed that more and more of them hail from the HRE. As I have mentioned, my relation to the Pope was fairly good, so it did not worry me that the cardinals came from HRE. Then all of a sudden I get the cease and desist warning about the HRE. Thinking fine, I have not done anything offensive against them other than the formentioned sabotage attempts so I will just continue on the war against the Byz and the 1st crusade (which was not called until well into the 60th rounds..).
Then all of a sudden Venice attacks one of my ports out of nowhere.. And to my great surprise my alliance with the Papacy is in tatters, (venice had allied to them a few turns earlier), our relation had dropped to so-so and the number of crosses were down to 5 from 8 or 9.
Wondering what the hell just happened I saw that the seats in the CoC were distributed like this:
HRE 5 (1 preferati) relations abysmal
Venice 2 (1 pref.) relations so- so
Poland 1 (pref.) (allied through two marriages) (50+ turns, relations so-so)
Sicily 2 (allied so-so, they also have the Pope)
France 1 (allied reasonable)
Milan 1 (neutral so-so)
1 vacant
So 7-5 in favour of my enemies..
This raises the question of how much power the CoC has and the importance of having a majority of the seats. So do anybody know if my fears are true? Have HRE and Venice berated me enough to make the Pope disregard 70 turns of faithful service?