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Cheetah
04-23-2007, 12:51
Does anyone knows the exact effect of stars on the troops? AFAIK a high start general gives a moral boost the troops, but what is the exact effect?

Shahed
04-23-2007, 15:31
It's been asked before, but I'v forgotten (as usual).

+2 morale per command star IIRC.

econ21
04-24-2007, 09:31
Unlike STW and MTW, I don't think we know quantitative information on the RTW/M2TW engine unless it's the kind of stuff you can get at in the txt files. CA revealed a lot of the maths of STW/MTW, not least in a chapter in the MTW strategy guide. However, with RTW, they explicitly refused to give such information citing intellectual property rights and fear of copying by rival companies producing "clones".

On command stars in RTW, a CA staffer posted here that they were intended just to raise morale but then made to affect attack stats because the morale effect was too weak. However, therother reported that his research revealed no noticeable affect of command stars on combat kill rates, so the current consensus is that - contrary to the CA statement - the game actually reflects the original intention and command stars only affect morale. This is discussed here:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=44549

Exactly how big the morale effect is and whether it depends on proximity to the general is unknown. It should be easy to test if anyone had the energy to do it (mod the descr_strat and EDU to match up a unit under high command with a comparable unit with high morale, and record when they break).

My guess would be 1 command star = +1 morale (but perhaps only if near the general).

HoreTore
04-24-2007, 11:34
The morale bonus from the general is definitely only when he's around. Try having a very good morale general against the mongols. As long as he's there, your morale is good. Pull him out, and your army flees.

Not sure if that's just chivalry or if it's command stars as well though.

Shahed
04-25-2007, 01:00
Good posts guys !

HoreTore, chivalry does affect morale, that we know.