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barocca
04-24-2007, 07:36
Looking at making a selection of campaigns in different era's,
with different objectives,
and different units

where i have stated "clan X represented by clan Z",
that means I dont have clan X in the game,
but i do have a large chunk of members of clan X as part of clan Z,
so I will use clan Z and simply promote the members of clan X to be the Daimyo of clan Z.

(The Taketora clan are an amalgam of Historical and Fictional Characters,
backed up by an array of historical heroes who dont fit anywhere else.
I think you'll like them)



Otherwise I need some Realistic Ideas please

for the following era's, and wars,
which clans and which units??


700's to 1050
clans?
units?



1051 to 1063
(The Zenkunen War)
which clans fought on which side?
units?

Abe (represented by the Satake (19 memebrs))

Minamoto
Kiyohara (represented by the Taketora (21 members))



1083 to 1087
(The Gosannen War)
which clans fought on which side?
units?

Minamoto

Fujiwara
Kiyohara (represented by the Taketora (21 members))



1156
(The Hogen Rebellion)
which clans fought on which side?
units?

Fujiwara

Minamoto
Taira



1159
(The Heiji Rebellion )
which clans fought on which side?
units?

Minamoto
Fujiwara

Taira


1180 to 1185
(The Gempai War)
which clans fought on which side?
units?

Honganji fought for both sides

Taira
Oba (represented by the Satake)
Saito (represented by the Honda)

Minamoto
Hojo
Kajiwara (represented by the Satomi)
Kumagai (represented by the Amako)
Nasu (represented by the Hatakeyama)
Imai (represented by the Asakura)



1185 to 1335
clans?
units?



note - 1180's crossbows begin to vanish from OOB


1335 to 1392
(Northern and Southern Courts)
which clans fought on which side?
units?




1392 to 1467
clans?
units?




1467–1477
(The Onin War)
which clans fought on which side?
units?

Hosokawa

Yamana (represented by Ashikaga (10 members))




1477 to 1530
clans?
units?



1530 - early Shogun Sengoku Campaign
clans?
units?



1550 - middle Shogun Sengoku Campaign
clans?
units?



1580 - late Shogun Sengoku Campaign
clans?
units?



1862
(The Meiji Restoration)
which clans fought on which side?
units?

Saito and Kido (both represented by the Taketora)

Tokugawa



you can pick an era or war and fill in the gaps,
and i will update this post with that information/idea

you do not have to fill in all the era's or wars

seeing that I am the one doing all the Clan Research
- you do NOT have to figure out which clan i should substitue
- i'll do that, but they will be stuck with the Kamon of the clan i choose


CLANS AVAILABLE

Amako
Asakura-Asai
Ashikaga

Chosokabe

Date

Fujiwara

Hatakeyama
Hojo
Honda
Honganji
Hosokawa

Ichijo
Ichimonji
Imagawa

Konoe
Kujo

Maeda
Minamoto
Miyoshi
Mogami
Mori

Nijo

Oda
Otomo

Ryuzoji

Sanada
Satake
Shimazu

Tachibana
Taira
Takatsukasa
Takeda
Taketora
Tokugawa
Toyotomi

Useugi
Ukita


Cheers
B.

barocca
04-24-2007, 23:28
Taira Revolt 939 - 941
in 939 Fujiwara Sumitomo and Taira Masakado led revolts In Iyo and Shimosa against the Fujiwara. Soon afterwards they invaded Harima and Bizen. The revolt quickly spread throughout the whole San'yo region.

Imperial forces led by Ono Yoshifuru and Minamoto Tsunemoto pursued Fujiwara Sumitomo to Dazaifu where he was defeated in battle at Hakata. Sumitomo then fled to Iyo where he was captured and executed by Tachibana Toyasu.

units? (very basic)

Fujiwara
Tachibana
Minamoto
Ono (represented by Chosokabe)

Arima (Sumitomo was ancestor of Arima)(represented by Ukita)
Taira

Tomisama
04-25-2007, 04:06
You go B :charge:

Yoshitsune
09-29-2007, 18:55
Not sure if an early samurai mod is still planned but I've scanned a couple of maps from a superb book I own called "A Cultural Atlas of Japan" by Collcutt, Jansen and Kumakura.

The first shows the location of notable clans from 10-12th Centuries and, if anything, it shows the futility in trying to tie clans to the old provinces during this period - clans were small and based in fortified mansions in villages/towns. Just look at how many clans are crammed into provinces of the fertile Kanto, Nobi and Kansai plains:

https://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3783/earlyclanmap2uk7.jpg

Second map shows the location of major private "shoen" estates during the early period which can yield a few more clan names. Note that all non-shoen lands at this time belonged to the state/imperial court so can't be assigned to clans:

https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2917/shoenmap2hw7.jpg

You're welcome to try and shoe-horn this into a Risk-like province map of Japan but I'm afraid it won't really resemble anything historical! ;-)

Regards,
Mike