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neoiq5719
04-28-2007, 09:14
i´m still at early stages of the game and my question is because they have included on the EB webpage the breakdown of the units according to specific goals but not a breakdown of the sieging weapons, do we have the same sieging weapons as in RTW?
thx

MarcusAureliusAntoninus
04-28-2007, 09:21
There are no onagers.

EB has various sizes of 'ballista' that range from the 'scorpion' to giant heavy siege engines. Though due to the firing animations and the insane complexity of the modelling siege engines, all EB siege engines look like the vanilla 'scorpions' and 'ballistas', though they have different stats. There are plans to make new models if someone with the skill and patience is found.

hoom
04-28-2007, 12:33
They are also really really expensive to keep in the field! Meaning they are appropriately rare :balloon2:

neoiq5719
04-28-2007, 12:42
what was wrong with the ones in RTW? why didnt they keep them or they were also "historically inaccurate?.

Foot
04-28-2007, 12:45
what was wrong with the ones in RTW? why didnt they keep them or they were also "historically inaccurate?.

Onagers are completely in the wrong timeframe. Catapulta were essentially very large bows capable of throwing increasing large stones. The closest in-game representation we can do at the moment is the scorpion, but in fact 1 talent stone throwers were a hell of a lot bigger.

Foot

cunctator
04-28-2007, 17:13
With the exception that unlike a large bow, the energy in most ancient artillery pieces, and all variants that are in EB, was stored in torsion springs not the limbs as in the case of a bow. Basically the sinews of the spring were twisted when the weapon was charged and nothing else was bend/streched as a bow, thus the frame of these machines has not to consist of any elastic materials.

Shigawire
04-29-2007, 02:40
With the exception that unlike a large bow, the energy in most ancient artillery pieces, and all variants that are in EB, was stored in torsion springs not the limbs as in the case of a bow. Basically the sinews of the spring were twisted when the weapon was charged and nothing else was bend/streched as a bow, thus the frame of these machines has not to consist of any elastic materials.

:yes: Flexion vs Torsion

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/war/CatImages/Frametypes.jpg



http://img63.exs.cx/img63/5223/romanpalintone2mt.jpg


A 1 talent palintonon
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/images/Palintonon.gif