E.B. multiplayer (official)

[Pharnakes]

Hi all this thread is for expressing interest in E.B. multiplayer, first step download X-fire (http://www.xfire.com), second step post here with your X-fire name and the times that you are ussualy avalible to play, and lastly download and install hamachi, found here (https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/download.asp). All are welcome to suggest ideas for rules which will be added to this thread when they are decided, however please do it in this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1527004#post1527004) thread and keep this one purely for "registration"

UPDATE: Thanks to mAIOR for discovering the most stable version of hamachi, here (http://uploaded.to/?id=6cyix3) is the download link. This is version 1.0.1.5 people now downloading will be getting more advanced version, however for our purposes this is the best version, so just unzip it and update hamachi, it will install over later versions with no problems.

At the moment we are using the standard single player eb0.81v2 edu, as the multilplayer one causes problems on some people's computers. So, all you have to do is have a clean install of vanilla eb, patched to 0.81v2.

A little bit more about hamachi: Hamachi is a program that lets you create a LAN network over the internet. This means that gamespy can be completly dispensed with and multiplayer is step up over the lan function. Volia! 100% stable, lag free multiplayer!

However, the process involved is somewhat complex, so here is a step by step guide to using hamachi for rome multiplayer:

1.Dowload and install Hamachi from the link above.
2.Start up hamachi and press the "create or join network" button, the one with a triangle in it.
3.Press join existing network.
4.Choose one of the active networks, see further down for a list. Make sure you both join the same network!
5.The password is "EB"
6.You should now see a list of people with green lights next to them; these are the people who are online and in the network.
7.You can right click on aperson and chat to them by pressing "Open chat window"
8.To sign out, right click on EBmultiplayer at the top and press "Go offline"
9.In order to play EB online, you must frist join the network.
10.Next, "disable your primary network", this means disconect your internet, Important, do not leave the hamachi network, just leave hamachi alone.
11.Start up EB and go to multiplayer and then LAN.
12.Press Alt+Tab to mimimize Rome.
13."Renable your primary network", ie. reconect your internet.
14.Press Alt+Tab again to open up Rome. You should now be in the LAN lobby and able to see any players and games that are there.

Important note: as Hamachi can only support 16 people in a network, and as there are more people than that wanting to play EB, please leave the network whenever you stop playing multiplayer, to let other people have their turn. Therefore, please do not be offended if you find that I have evicted you from the network, I will do this if you are in, and active on neither hamachi nor X-fire, for the reasons stated above.

As of now I will be permenantly maintaining 2 hamachi networks. I will be moderating these, and as I no longer have access to X-fire, if the network gets more than 8 people in it, I will kick the last person to be active in order to keep numbers down.

Active Hamachi networks:

EB00
EB01

All paswords for all networks, current and from before are EB, note that only the above 2 servers will be moderated and maintained, though.

Thread for genral discusion:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84187

There is an AAR thread found here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1557484#post1557484).

Link for the map.rwm if you have modded your E.B.: map.rwm (http://uploaded.to/?id=d71udk) N.B. this is a current map.rwm, suitable for 1.0 play. map.rwm goes in RTW folder/eb/data/world/maps/base.

How to set up EB 1.0 for mp play.

Find your RTW route folder. Go into eb folder. Find the folder called mp custom game edu. go into it, copy the custom_edu, and paste it into the same folder. Then, rename one of them to export_descr_unit, and copy that one.

Go up, then in to the data folder, and paste the file into eb/data. Tell it to overwrite.

N.B. If it doesn't ask to overwrite, then you have done something wrong.

When you want to retrun to sp, repeat the process, only use the file that you find in eb/sp game edu backup.


N.B. 1.0 mp will be played without any of the fixes, temporary or permanent, so it is advisied that you make a seperate install for mp.

How to do this:

Thanks to the genius of Dol Guldur, eb is as of 1.0 is now a pure mod-folder installation. This means you can have two copies of it running out of the same vannila install, without the risk of clashes. To do this find your 1.0 intallation, and right click on it. Press extract to eb1.0, and let it run.

When it is finnished, open the folder and inside should be a folder called eb. Rename it eb mp, and paste it into your rtw folder. Then, go to your desktop and find your 1.0 shortcut. Copy and paste it, and rename one ebmp. Then right click on ebmp, and go to properties. Change the target line from mod:eb to mod:ebmp. Press apply and then ok, and you should be sorted.


Ok here's who we have so far; folowed by times they are ussualy on. Times are given in EB forum times, ie GMT+1 at the momment.

Not to do this you need 7-zip (free) or winrar (not free).

Guild username -X-fire username

Pharnakes -pharnakes
EasternScourge -easternscourge
The Vicious Monkey -tvmonkey
Sarkiss -sarkiss
Randarkmaan -randarkmaan
Moros -zetel
Lovejoy -lovejoy3
NeoSpartan -1stneospartan
Bonny -bonny4k
[EB]Demulon -demulon 11:00-15:00
Fantasio -mefantasio
Cameron of Lochsunart -ardcamanachd
king hannibal -kinghannibalrtr
SwebozGaztiz -swebozgaztiz
Bovi -urgleburgle 19:00-23:00
Fondor Yards -fondoryards
Griever14206 -griever14206
Burakuku -burakuku
Redmeth -redmetikal
MegasalexandrosII -megasalexandrosii
none, "name" on the twc - segfaulthunter
haven't got a clue, possibly has an accout on the twc - duckmoose
mAIOR -maior 20:00 - 24:00
Basileus Seleukeia -aiol
Caveira - dredmorte
newlearning - new0learning
Reno Melitensis - renomelitensis
Lusitan_Centurion -lusitancenturion
Ag3nt Magnum -magnum87ro
marseu -marseu
Tiberius Aemilius Rufus - tiduslionheart
PenguinLobster -penguinlobster
Iasonis -Iasonis
disiz -shurikenstar
Elthore - elthore
helenos aiakides - helenos
Ritterlichvon86 - ritterlichvon86
haldam - haldam
none, contact haldam - ackero
Kozak13 - kozack101
madmatg - madmatg
Beanjitsu - beanjitsu
TWFanatic - totalwarfanatic
Bellator Lugha - bellatorlugha
Gnaeus Servilius - tarquiniussuperbus
Burakuku - burakuku
Anarzius - byzantineimperator
Gourmet - gourmetitalia

[The Celtic Viking]

I am definitely interested and will be joining when I get time. I'll edit in my x fire name tomorrow, when I've downloaded it to the computer I've got EB on. Then I will give you a reason to fear the Arverni. :2thumbsup:

[EasternScourge]

Registered.Look for (no supirse) easternscourge. Now, prepare to witness my easil defeat (yeah,I'm not that good.But I will have fun getting killed.:laugh4: ). So, with .81a,theres nothing else we need to do.Right?

[The Celtic Viking]

Well, each must have the same EDU and map.rwm to be able to play mp. The EDU will probably be the vanilla EB one, and so everyone should have it anyway, if not using it at least as a backup.

The map.rwm however I believe must be uploaded by someone and then downloaded and used by anyone wishing to play.

By the way, I've registered on Xfire now. My nick is tvmonkey.

[Foot]

As long as you have an unmodified version of EB 0.81a, the map.rwm that was supplied with the install will suffice for multiplayer. We put it in there so that people could play multiplayer (we haven't tested it).

Foot

[The Celtic Viking]

As long as you have an unmodified version of EB 0.81a, the map.rwm that was supplied with the install will suffice for multiplayer. We put it in there so that people could play multiplayer (we haven't tested it).

Foot

Good to know, but I'd still need to get that map.rwm uploaded. See, I don't have a clean install and no backup of map.rwm. :shame:

[Pharnakes]

Added a downloadable map.rwm, see top.:2thumbsup:

[Sarkiss]

x-ifre: sarkiss
thanks

[Randarkmaan]

just made a x-fire... "randarkmaan"
Will we use a special EDU?

[Moros]

one of the MP edu's that are added.
They appear to be the same, tough they differ in size. Must be checked or one could be uploaded and perhaps even edited to be used for all MP.

ANyway add me up. My x-fire:
zetel

[king hannibal]

hey glad to see we've got more people we should start a tornament in about 2 weeks or so

hey sarkiss you got a email for bean or something he's always good at this stuff plus I'm sure he'll love EB and MP again

first rule needed is a money one

[Sarkiss]

hey glad to see we've got more people we should start a tornament in about 2 weeks or so

hey sarkiss you got a email for bean or something he's always good at this stuff plus I'm sure he'll love EB and MP again

first rule needed is a money one
hey king. nice to see that some of RTR MP vets are still around.:beam:
as of bean, i dont know his mail and the site is down so... i actually wasn't playing RTW at all for about 6 months now, so lost a track. it be nice to have him and other guys (including myself:laugh4: ) back. try to track them down on xfire.
and i agree with king about money limitations. king is a great general and a very experienced player so advises he gives would be of great help for MP community.

[NeoSpartan]

Fellas... I didn't instal .81a. So can i just download the map and play MP????

[Pharnakes]

no you will also need our edu which at the moment is just the standard 0.81a single player. This should be enough but you might also need to instal 0.81a although I don't think you should do.

Download link for 0.81a singleplayer EDU:http://uploaded.to/?id=a7fa5o


P.S. got an X-fire?

[Lovejoy]

I believe Bean changed nick at the RTR forums to Dean Martin or something. I haven't been at the RTR-forums for ages, but I don't think he is online that much anymore.

Anyway, my xfire is lovejoy3.

[NeoSpartan]

no you will also need our edu which at the moment is just the standard 0.81a single player. This should be enough but you might also need to instal 0.81a although I don't think you should do.

Download link for 0.81a singleplayer EDU:http://uploaded.to/?id=a7fa5o


P.S. got an X-fire?

"1stneospartan is my X-file name

ok, but where do I save this new file???? In the sp game edu back up or in themp custom game edu?????

[Pharnakes]

You can try backing up your current edu (found in eb/data) and replacing it with the oneon the link, however, on thinking it through I think it will not work as the edu won't match with the other files, escpecialy the EXPORT_descr_buildings and will probably ctd at some point in loading the game, however give it a try, just remember to back up, otherwise you will probabaly have to download 0.81a.

[king hannibal]

just a quick question have any of you try playing EB on BI (for MP)

[Pharnakes]

I haven't, but I doubt it will work as custom battles don't. Still, worth a shot, and it would be great if we could get it to work.

[Mi Fhein]

Hi, my x-fire is adrcamanachd.

[The Celtic Viking]

I haven't, but I doubt it will work as custom battles don't. Still, worth a shot, and it would be great if we could get it to work.

But you can make custom battles work with BI. All you have to do is to copy the... well, I'm on the wrong computer so I can't check (and I don't know it just out of my head), but there's a thread somewhere here that explains. It involves copying a folder and renaming it barbarian_invasion... actually, that's it. It's where it is and the name of the folder that's foiling my wish to explain. :shame:

Edit 162: Found it. You have to go into \EB\Data\world\maps\campaign and copy the folder "imperial_campaign". Then you rename it to barbarian_invasion and it should work.

[Bonny]

I really like to play EB in MP

xfire: bonny4k

[[EB]Demulon]

Hi everyone. X-fire is: demulon.

Peace, ........................then WAR!!! lol

[fantasio]

hi, x-fire: mefantasio

and this being my first post here......great mod!:2thumbsup:

[bovi]

A little suggestion for you, Pharnakes. How about adding everyones xfire usernames to your first post? That will make it a lot easier to find people rather than scroll through all the posts.

[Pharnakes]

Ok, done that, if anyone spots a mistake, or changes their usernames, then just let me know.

[SwebozGaztiz]

hello this is my xfire id - swebozgaztiz
hey i want to give it a try who wants to play???

[bovi]

I've made an account there too now - urgleburgle.
Play mostly at 19-23 CET.

[Bonny]

bump

[Pharnakes]

What?:dizzy2:

[Foot]

What?:dizzy2:

He's just making sure that this stays at the top of the front page.

Foot

[bovi]

Would anyone mind if we stickied this? There are a lot of stickies already... But it's a good thread for those of us who enjoy playing against each other.

[Griever14206]

Put me on there as well. Xfire account is simply Griever14206

[Fondor_Yards]

Hmmm thought I did this, must of been the old one...
fondoryards=me

[abou]

I'm glad to see this has plenty of support from the fans. Hopefully you guys will play some of the Historical Battles being worked once they are released.

[Emperor Burakuku]

X-fire: burakuku, thank you.

[Redmeth]

x-fire : redmetikal
Please add me to the first post.
Thanks and where do I get more details on how to actually play?
Downloaded Hamachi too and joined the server I only see Pharnakes online.
I downloaded the map.rwm and using Hamachi you play as if it were a LAN game.
But please make the first more clear post the EDU that should be used either the SP one or the one of the MP ones
and Hamachi seems easier to use than xfire.
Have you actually played since this thread started?

[bovi]

Oh yes, we've played, but as far as I have been involved we have not got Hamachi working yet. The SP EDU is used, but I don't think there's a reflected reason for it. People log on at varying times so it's not unnatural that you see few people on at a given time.

[Redmeth]

I usually play with the BI exe, will this only work with the RTW exe?
And I have to add all the people on the list to x-fire one at a time right?
Sorry for all the questions a more detailed guide would be a better idea, I for one never played RTW in MP.

[bovi]

I haven't tried with BI, I think it should work if everyone involved used it. I know of no way to add multiple addresses to xfire at a given time, sorry.

[MegasAlexandrosII]

hey, my x-fire is megasalexandrosii

the only thing is is that i have no idea how to play eb on multiplayer, could someone post some foolproof instructions for me, thanks

[bovi]

Install 0.81a. Download map.rwm from here and put it in eb/data/world/maps/base. Start the game. Choose multiplayer.

[Pharnakes]

Hi all, can you please edit your posts to say what times you are ussualy on. (EB forums times, i.e. GMT+1)

[[EB]Demulon]

There is an update for 0.81a (v2) at the main EB website. Download it so we can play better MP battles. I'm not sure what it fixed, but the main screen loads much faster.

[Pharnakes]

Stickied!! whoo, thanks somebody.:yes:

[Sarkiss]

Demulon']There is an update for 0.81a (v2) at the main EB website. Download it so we can play better MP battles. I'm not sure what it fixed, but the main screen loads much faster.
agreed.
i just got it installed, and afaik we all need to have it in order to get compatible data.
could someone edit the first post to make things clear, please.

[mAIOR]

x-fire: mAIOR
mostly from 19~20 to 23 GMT (so 20~21 to 24 GMT+1)


Cheers...

[Pharnakes]

Could all who wish to play eb multiplayer and who haven't already done so please download and install hamachi. Here is the download link: https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/download.asp.

See first post for further details.

[Basileus Seleukeia]

As I'm currently waiting for Thorlof's new RoA, I'd like to play multiplayer, as long as I have the vanilla EDU. My Xfire-name is Aiol. I have no idea when I willl be online, but I think I'll find someone. Looking forward to playing with you!

[[EB]Demulon]

Gmt 10-14

[Basileus Seleukeia]

I have some suggestions for rules:
1) No upgrades
2) Factions with HAs of their own (Steppe, Hayasdan, Pahlava, Baktria) can use 2 HAs, other factions can't
3) Only 1 unit of Naked Fanatics (Gaesatae or Tindonatae)

Fell free to make suggestions, to praise it and to annihilate it:laugh4:

[mAIOR]

The horse archers thing is unappliable as stepe factions basically have HA... Also, I think that if the player with HA would be forced to charge after they ran out od arrows, it would make the game fair as the HA (outside armored ones) would get slamed. The 3rd point is unfair cause if you want to limit those guys, then you'd have to limit Agriaspidai Thorakitai for AS, Dosidataskeli for the Lusotanan, sword masters for Casse and a lot of other units... I believe those units are ubber expensive (the first battle I made I fielded 2 they did a good job but I ended up numerically outmatched by nearlly 300 units on large.
So, it's up to the players do they want to field large numbers or smal numbers of really tough infantry?

Cheers...

[king hannibal]

hi I been on hoilday for sometime just got back yeaster day night so I should be on from now also has the differcult joining games be sorted

[EasternScourge]

Oh,I forget to post this,but for the next several weeks I will not be avaible for MP due to visiting family.Will edit this post when I'm once again avaible.

[The Internet]

Hi, if anyone used to play RTR MP then you'll probably remember me i was RTR Caesar on RTR MP and think i may give this a go, think i'll finish my campaign first though and get more of a feel for EB.

[Caveira]

What is XFire for? Ever since i put Norton on my PC, it consumes lots of memory, so I'm careful with what I install on it. That's why I'm asking.

I've never played RTW online, it sucks, but i'm quite intrested in EB online...:book:

[Pharnakes]

It is a chat program for games. And it won't have a noticeable effect on a computer that is capable of running eb.

[Zalmoxis]

RTW runs very well on my computer, but EB runs at a slower pace, so I'll likely never play online.

[Pharnakes]

Multiplayer seems to run faster for some reason - people, like myself who are borderline on being able to handle huge in campaign, find that we can run huge in multiplayer with no problem. Provided your computer can at least rnn normal scale, I'm sure everybody will play you, and probaly even on small.

[Caveira]

ok add me:

dredmorte

[Lovejoy]

ey, ey ,ey! finaly got a clean copy of the game. (I think!) Ill try and be on tomorrow if anyone is intrested in playing.

[Pharnakes]

you don't need a legit copy any more, if that is what you mean, as we tend to play via hamachii now, using the lan capability.

[the_handsome_viking]

Will there ever be a contest to see who the greatest commander is?

[Lovejoy]

wait, what? ops, did I said copy? i meant install! a clean install :P heh.

[Pharnakes]

@the_handsome_viking I've decide when we have 32 people then I will set one up. 7 more to go at the moment. Are you joining?

[king hannibal]

PC broker down :shame: so I'll have to wait till next week to start playng people again and get my name as dread as hannibal himself

also I'm off on hoilday with the TA in 3 weeks time to france for 2 weeks getting payed for it as well just to say I won't be here :beam:

also I don't think that EB is balance enough for a compertion yet

[Reno Melitensis]

I decided to join you in multiplayer, hope we can have some great battles. Reno Melitensis on the Guild, same on X-fire Cheers

[Caveira]

Minute after i succefully join someone in the lan lobby, i loose connection with that person :furious3:

tried it with pharnakes...

Would anyone, by any chance, have any idea why? Windows Firewall was deactivated, and router had the port configured (for hamachi).

[bovi]

The game CTDd during two battles I tried to have with Fondor today. I've played Demulon successfully several times before (using Gamespy), perhaps Hamachi is unstable for RTW?

[Fondor_Yards]

Now that I think of it, it might be the lighting mod *pharn had it so I installed it so I could play him.*

[bovi]

That's probably it. I've got a separate EB installation for multiplayer. Everyone's data must be the same to play, so it's necessary...

Then again, since yesterday my single-player EB has become unstable too, and it also happened in another game today. I think my new RAM is faulty, or my computer has caught a disease...

Edit: Argh... Memtest finds loads and loads of errors.

[mAIOR]

The reason why EB is faster in MP is because you don't load te script I think... Also, it's funny even when you loose.


Cheers...

[newlearning]

Whats up, I want to play EB online. My xfire account name is new0learning and I can be on from around 18:00-24:00 pacific time almost anyday. Hope we can set up a game.

[Pharnakes]

Reno Melitensis, could you please be a little bit more specific about your X-fire, cuse I can't find you. Thanks.

[Reno Melitensis]

Cant find me? I dont leave x-fire on line all the time. Can it be because of this. I am new to x-fire so any help will be great. Thx Pharnakes. Cheers.

[Reno Melitensis]

I checked my profile on x-fire by 'searching for a friend', and I am there as renomelitensis. I sent you a mess. to be my friend Pharnakes. If you receive the invitation inform me.Thx.

[LusitanianWolf]

Lets kick some asses (or not, lol)!!!

Add LusitanCenturion :yes: .

[mcantu]

Are results going to be posted in this thread?

[bovi]

No, there's another thread for multiplayer AARs (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=86053).

[Ag3nt_Magnum]

yupiii, finally. Xfire name: magnum87ro
(tried quite a few untill it let me)

[marseu]

My Xfire name: marseu

usually connected in labour days at 22.00

[Pharnakes]

Important hamchi update increases conectivity, see first post for details. Should solve the problems you are having Caveira.


Thanks, mAIOR:2thumbsup:

[Tiberius Aemilius Rufus]

hi everybody :D


on x-fire i am tiduslionheart.

[PenguinLobster]

I downloaded everything, my X-fire name is penguinlobster

[NeoSpartan]

OK fellas I got tired of my EASY A** Aedui campain, having a non challenging AI, limited time to play, not being able to play MP (old version of EB), and a save that didn't go through just did it for me. ~:pissed:

anywho.... today at 5:45am I downloaded the Final version of EB. And tonight I will update hamchi and try to knock out a Mo'Fo' or two :boxing: (or not :skull: )

my: X-file name is 1stNeoSpartan for those who don't have it. I'll be online later today at around 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time.

[Iasonis]

my xfire name is iasonis(yea i know, original), i can usually be found on around 0000-0400 eastern standard time.

[disiz]

Anyone wanna play EB multiplayer? add me msn juvenilz@hotmail.com

[bovi]

Anyone wanna play EB multiplayer? add me msn juvenilz@hotmail.com

X-Fire please.

[disiz]

I would like to suggest a better method than using hamachi. Much more simple to use battlenet. Once people get in touch with each other they just add each others ip-adresses to the battlenetlist and play. And you dont even have to disconnect your internet.
Contact me on juvenilz@hotmail.com or simply reply here

[disiz]

so now i got an xfire account too. It's shurikenstar

[Elthore]

I second the use of BattleLAN, if thats what you're referring to. Its just a simple box to enter IPs into, and as long as everyone enters in the others' IPs we should be LANed within RTW.

[EasternScourge]

I have to mention that I won't be avaible.Lightning struck our house,and internet messed up.Its partly fixed,but its not working on my computer.So no MP for me.Also,I also agree to that BattleLAN thing.Hamachi just seems like a bit to much work.

[Sarkiss]

I would like to suggest a better method than using hamachi. Much more simple to use battlenet. Once people get in touch with each other they just add each others ip-adresses to the battlenetlist and play. And you dont even have to disconnect your internet.
Contact me on juvenilz@hotmail.com or simply reply here
could you please post some more info here for all the folks to see about the method mentioned.

[Elthore]

http://home.comcast.net/~sonicsmart/battlelan.html

for those who havent heard of google...

google.com, you should try it ;P


PS: x-fire: elthore

[helenos aiakides]

My x-fire helenos

[Ritterlichvon86]

guildname Ritterlichvon86
xfirename ritterlichvon86

sometimes online around 6 to 9pm

[Haldam]

Hello all ! :)
Defeat the CPU is boring so my brother Ackero and I want to play against human generals.

Add "ackero" and "haldam" to your friends ;)

[KozaK13]

hey id like to meet some ppl playin online

add kozak101 plz usually online in afternoon and evening 4pm-varying

[madmatg]

hey yall im gonna start playin online too,
my name will be the same as here madmatg, cant wait to play!
i will usually be around somewhere between 7pm-2am CST

[madmatg]

one suggestion, as for the network name on hamachi i will be opening another network called EBmultiplayer1, and EBmultiplayer2. so that we will have a few more spots

[Beanjitsu]

Xfire=beanjitsu

veteren RTRMP player, looking to play EB!
also the battlenet idea sounds great, i might look into it and download it.

[Conan the Barbarian]

Xfire=beanjitsu

veteren RTRMP player, looking to play EB!
also the battlenet idea sounds great, i might look into it and download it.
BEANJISTU!!!!!!!!!!!!So good to see you again!!!

I got a new comp and I downloaded plat 1.9 and EB .81 so get on x-fire man!!!!

[Sarkiss]

Xfire=beanjitsu

veteren RTRMP player, looking to play EB!
also the battlenet idea sounds great, i might look into it and download it.
bean himself back from the oblivion:beam:
good to see you buddy. unfortunately my copy of EB is so heavily edited (fixed some minor flaws etc) that i wont get a similar data with any one. should have kept a separate copy for MP:wall: though i still can if folks are still active in here.

[madmatg]

im still active if your up for a game, or if anyone is up for a game i'll be available to play fairly often, i am on CST (i think -6 GMT) but i can really be around anytime on tues or thursday's except 12-2, and MWF after 6pm til about 2am. so if anyone wants a go send me a pm or better yet friend me on xfire and write me a message saying when you wanna play, im dying to learn how to play against real people lol.

[NeoSpartan]

HOLLY S**********!

I am hooked, I am hooked!!!!!!!!!!!!

I gotta fight somebody at least once a day now. :boxing:

I have lost interest in SP (due in part to a CTD ruinning my AS campain, and I don't feel like continuing my KH, or Romani campain any time soon).

[Lovejoy]

Do you still play with hamachi? It didnt work on my comp.

So if not.. anyone wanna play a MP-battle tonight?

EDIT: Beanjitsu! And Conan! Are you guys stil alive? :P Long time since! Remember me? ;P Sarkiss, Conan, Bean... soon all the RTR-vets will be here. :)

[Sarkiss]

Do you still play with hamachi? It didnt work on my comp.

So if not.. anyone wanna play a MP-battle tonight?

EDIT: Beanjitsu! And Conan! Are you guys stil alive? :P Long time since! Remember me? ;P Sarkiss, Conan, Bean... soon all the RTR-vets will be here. :)
hi there, buddy.:beam:
i recently played quite a few EB MP games on GS and it was surprisingly stable.

[NeoSpartan]

Well my PC doesn't like Game Spy, I just can't connect to a hosted game nor can people connect to my hosted games.

So I gotta roll with Hamachi, which is OK.

I am usually up at 12:00am EST. (so is madmatg and Gaius)

[TWFanatic]

This looks fun. I'm getting tired of the bland old vanilla RTW multi-player.

x-fire: totalwarfanatic
Question: Why do we need xfire?

I'm usually on sometime between 3 and 7 EST, which is between 7 and 11 GMT atm. I'd love to play right now...

[TWFanatic]

I was surprised by the inactivity. EB MP is like having a supermodel girlfriend who likes sports and hates shopping. You'd think people would drool over such a wonderful combination.

Free balloons to those who join me.:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:

[NeoSpartan]

I was surprised by the inactivity. EB MP is like having a supermodel girlfriend who likes sports and hates shopping. You'd think people would drool over such a wonderful combination.

Free balloons to those who join me.:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:

madmatg told me u are up between 7pm-10pm EST, I'll see if I can swing by around that time sometime this week.

sorry man and I feel ur pain

[mAIOR]

Yeah last time I ended up leaving as I went out. Next time you shall not escape me! You shall choke on the blood of your soldiers... :p


Cheers...

[NeoSpartan]

Yeah last time I ended up leaving as I went out. Next time you shall not escape me! You shall choke on the blood of your soldiers... :p


Cheers...

:inquisitive:

https://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/Neospartan/taxi-driver-you-talkin-to-me-500005.jpg







p.s I have exams this week so I might not be on as ofter as I usually am :no:

[mAIOR]

I was talking to TWFanatic... you just posted immediatly before me :)
But, you'll choke too... Everyone will die MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

[TWFanatic]

Lol, I can't wait. Glad to see the enthusiasm.

[Emperor Burakuku]

The Hamachi network's allways full. Just made a new network called "BurakukuTW" and the pass is "EB" if anyone's interested. I think it would be a good ideea to make a second official network like "EBmultiplayerII" since this one's full all the time if there's a possibility for that. Or maybe is just my connection?

[NeoSpartan]

The Hamachi network's allways full. Just made a new network called "BurakukuTW" and the pass is "EB" if anyone's interested. I think it would be a good ideea to make a second official network like "EBmultiplayerII" since this one's full all the time if there's a possibility for that. Or maybe is just my connection?

no need man no need

Go to EBmultiplayer2 password EB

[madmatg]

ok so NeoSpartan, TWFanatic and i have been playin a good deal lately
and have come up with some "fixes" for multiplayer

A. we are messing with sling stats to bring them down some as they seem a bit unbalanced for MP as everyone normally wants as many as possible because of their strength against armor

so for now we have taken 1 attack point from each slinger(we weakened accensi by subtracting 1 from each of their mount effects, as they are aready at 1 attack)

B. The soldurus have had their spears taken away, becasue of the dreaded switch to secondary weapon bug(which makes them little used in MP), so they have been switched solely to swords, they still get the cav bonus like they have a spear so the animation looks off but the effect should stay the same.
On the topic of spears we also took out all the short spear attributes, as they were causing spearmen to suck in close combat

C. The galatian wild men have had their cost moved to the same price as the gaestaste(sp) of europe.

hope these rules dont keep too many people out. if you play MP somewhat often you can definitely have a say in how this works so dont be afraid if you dont like something we will be changing alot, probly until EB 1.0 comes out.

heres the link to the file (http://madmatg.googlepages.com/export_descr_unit.txt): this file goes into Rome - Total War/EB/Data


You must have a fresh version of EB to do this with or it will not be compatible.

[Emperor Burakuku]

Mine still doesn't work. I use all the steps and when I reconnect everyone in the lan chat room seems to see what I say but I don't see anything they say. It's kinda strange and frustrating. Can't figure it out. Reinstalled Hamachi, changed firewall settings in any way possible, changed my nick (which seemed stupid). I still think that it's a firewall problem but the 1st time it worked. Also it could be some Network Places option... I am very confused and frustrated. I will reinstal the game, then hamachi version 1.5 and try again. If still doesn't work... I will try 'till it will. "If I don't find a wat I will make one". :wall:

[mAIOR]

ok so NeoSpartan, TWFanatic and i have been playin a good deal lately
and have come up with some "fixes" for multiplayer

A. we are messing with sling stats to bring them down some as they seem a bit unbalanced for MP as everyone normally wants as many as possible because of their strength against armor

so for now we have taken 1 attack point from each slinger(we weakened accensi by subtracting 1 from each of their mount effects, as they are aready at 1 attack)

B. The soldurus have had their spears taken away, becasue of the dreaded switch to secondary weapon bug(which makes them little used in MP), so they have been switched solely to swords, they still get the cav bonus like they have a spear so the animation looks off but the effect should stay the same.
On the topic of spears we also took out all the short spear attributes, as they were causing spearmen to suck in close combat

C. The galatian wild men have had their cost moved to the same price as the gaestaste(sp) of europe.

hope these rules dont keep too many people out. if you play MP somewhat often you can definitely have a say in how this works so dont be afraid if you dont like something we will be changing alot, probly until EB 1.0 comes out.

heres the link to the file (http://madmatg.googlepages.com/export_descr_unit.txt): this file goes into Rome - Total War/EB/Data


You must have a fresh version of EB to do this with or it will not be compatible.

Madtag, if you're interested, me and Pharnakes have made some extensive changes to the EDU. If you want them I can send them together with the change logs.


Cheers...

[bellator Lugha]

my x-fire: bellatorlugha

on EBmultiplayer2 : bellator Lugha

[madmatg]

surely send em along!

[madmatg]

k so one minor change i the edu, acfidently put the hellenic slingers at 1 attack instead of 2 so its fixed and ready to download at the same link as the old one, its back up a few posts, or here (http://madmatg.googlepages.com/export_descr_unit.txt) if your lazy like me :D

[TWFanatic]

Good work lads. This should balance some things out and improve gameplay. I can't wait to use archers. :2thumbsup:

[Emperor Burakuku]

My LAN still doesn't work. I tried everything, from firewall settings to uninstall and reinstall and I still think that it's a Hamachi problem. Some guys reported that they can both see me in the lobby and what I write in the lobby, but I don't see them or what they say. I've also search the net but didn't find a similar problem. Maybe it will work on 1.0.

P.S Thanks alot for your help Madmatg and Bellator. :)

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

You guys should make like a


EB MP WOrld Heavyweight Title

That you guys can play for. Mabye that would increase interest
I would like that:yes:

[NeoSpartan]

You guys should make like a


EB MP WOrld Heavyweight Title

That you guys can play for. Mabye that would increase interest
I would like that:yes:


hum.... maybe... you the Factions are not "balanced" since this is a historical game.

Some factions will outpreform others depending on how much $$ you will get. Ex: AS, preforms really good in LOTS of $$ (50K and up), and lil $$ battles (20k-30k). Its more easely beaten in regular $$ (30k-40k)

Aedui/Arveni do REALLY bad in short $$ campains, in medium $$ they do thier best, in Big $$ you have to get lucky.

We have to set ruls, but we probably need to make some more Specific Rulz.

We are still trying to balance Slingers... they are just too much.

however.... one day... we could do something like this.

One tip in MP campains. It can go either way... U win some u loose some, there is no "all time best" we learn from eachother.

[Gnaeus Servilius]

Hi everyone, being a dedicated TW fan since shogun but this is my first post.Great mod, I'd rather play EB than MTW2 any day lol. X-fire name is tarquiniussuperbus, I want to see how i'll fare without my beloved pause button!

[Emperor Burakuku]

Gave up on Hamachi. Just wanted to say that my nick on Gamespy is Black. If you guys play there, meet me in X-fire ID: Burakuku.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

hum.... maybe... you the Factions are not "balanced" since this is a historical game.

Some factions will outpreform others depending on how much $$ you will get. Ex: AS, preforms really good in LOTS of $$ (50K and up), and lil $$ battles (20k-30k). Its more easely beaten in regular $$ (30k-40k)

Aedui/Arveni do REALLY bad in short $$ campains, in medium $$ they do thier best, in Big $$ you have to get lucky.

We have to set ruls, but we probably need to make some more Specific Rulz.

We are still trying to balance Slingers... they are just too much.

however.... one day... we could do something like this.

One tip in MP campains. It can go either way... U win some u loose some, there is no "all time best" we learn from eachother.


Yea..... I been playing TW MP for 3 1/2 years, I know of what you mean. :yes:

[Emperor Burakuku]

Yes man, we need some rules. I've noticed that ppl usualy play without any upgrades and I don't like it that much. Neither will I like to play with lots of upgrades but I'm thinking about something like... having a maximum of 1 upgrade per category at least. I mean only red upgrades and only a max of 1 exp per unit (1 sword, 1 shield, 1 exp per unit). Also we've played with max of 2 or 3 slingers 'cuz they're so strong. So I guess we should put it to vote.

Rules:
1. Slingers limited to a max of 2 or 3 per army.
2. Horse archers need to be limited. Maybe 6, 7 or 8?
3. Maybe: The maximum number of upgrades limited to: 1 max sword, 1 max armor 1 max exp per unit.
4. Maximum number of phalanxes to 5, 6 or 7?
5. Maybe: Maximum number of Gaesatae/Galatikoi Tindanotae is 2, 3 or 4?

P.S. Feel free to edit any rule if you think yours is better and to post new ones if you have any ideeas.

[mAIOR]

You can't play oin those rules. I mean Parthia and the Nomad factions have a lot of archers and HA. You just have to deal with it. I agree with the sling limit tough.
As for the Elites, and Ellies, I thinjk that's redundant. If you want to throw a lot of elites you'll have a small weak army.
As for Ellies they're expensive as hell and easilly dealt with.

Cheers...

[madmatg]

just posted the first AAR in the AAR MP thread go check it out and play MP!

[Emperor Burakuku]

OK. No limit on elites and elephantes then I agree. What about foot archers and HA? You dont want any limit for those? I mean, if my opponents plays a 20 Ha army I will play a 20 phalanx army and that's not EB. I'm not a bug fan of rules myself, but guys here say we need some rules for both realism and gameplay. I myself like to play with upgrades, but I've noticed that most of the guys don't. Also I like elites but the first few games I've played there was a max of 4 elites per army rule. What I am trying to say is that we need to go for some rules that would make everyone happy. I wll reedit my post now.

[mAIOR]

Well, in an historical parthian army you'd have more than half the army with bows. So, it's realism.
AS for the elites I stated my point. you try and pit an army with just hypaspist against a balanced seleucid army. You'd loose big time.
The beauty of EB is that there are no units powerfull enough to win battles against a balanced army.


Cheers...

[Sarkiss]

Well, in an historical parthian army you'd have more than half the army with bows. So, it's realism.
AS for the elites I stated my point. you try and pit an army with just hypaspist against a balanced seleucid army. You'd loose big time.
The beauty of EB is that there are no units powerfull enough to win battles against a balanced army.


Cheers...
i agree with you on Nomads and Hay but disagree on the elites. i had a game against such an army and even though their right completely broke and routed the few remaining elites broke my left and stood their ground. they are better in a prolonged fight: better stamina, morale, attack/defence status, often more men per unit. so even though they were partially surrounded, my tired, inferior troops were eventually routed. was a close fight though and you need more than just an elite unit to win still, in a prolonged fight they prevail and more often than not its them who turn the tide of a battle.
my 2 cents.:charge:

[Emperor Burakuku]

Well, in an historical parthian army you'd have more than half the army with bows. So, it's realism.
AS for the elites I stated my point. you try and pit an army with just hypaspist against a balanced seleucid army. You'd loose big time.
The beauty of EB is that there are no units powerfull enough to win battles against a balanced army.


Cheers...

OK, I agree with you regarding nomads and archers in general. Though regarding elites can't agree. But there are elites and elites. For example, you can get 1 unit of Iberian Assault Inf for 2600 mnai with some armor and sword upgrades. That's not that expensive and trust me that for the same money 6 iberians (15600 mnai) can break 10 normal units if the player's skill allows it because if u manage to protect your flanks your iberians will kill faster and will also rout alot harder. No ideea why I argue about elites! I love them! :P

P.S I'm not trying to impose anyone what army to play with just trying to minimize spamming and maximize skill and realism.

[mAIOR]

I understand. Nor am I. We are just debating :)
Now, it depends what you consider elites. For me, elites are the best of the best. For instance, Imperial legionaires are not elites on my terms however, they're extremely good professional troops.


Cheers...

[NeoSpartan]

Ok for some reason my post didn't go through but here it is again:

--The 2-3 slingers is good, for now..... However if ur facing a HA army then is ok to get as many slingers/archers as you want.
--The elites cap is bs man. UNLESS we are playing with 50K or above you will not be able to afford a LOT of elites. Also, elites are hard but u gotta know how to beat them. Do not expect to just throw ur men at them, that works, but ur risking the rest of ur battle line.
--Now Up Grades.... here is my "Beef" with upgrades

I understand (as Mad explained to me and we tested) that upgrades have a proportional cost across untis. The cost will vary depending on the units # of men, and their attack/defense stats, but it will be propertional. Elite units have to pay more for thier upgrades than regular units, light units pay even less.

HOWEVER, the cost of the unit itself is NEITHER proportional, NOR balanced. Meaning, depending on the faction you are playing the given budject will dictate (1) How many units u can get (2) how many upgrades you can give. And unfortunaly the faction that has to pay the most for its army has less money to upgrade.

Let me give you an example:
-Aedui vs Imperial Romani, budget 40k (big $$ battle)
--The Aedui have a disadvantage when it comes to costs. Their normal units are rather cheap but are not great, the ONLY decetly costing unit (2200+) and has good stats are the Mori Gaesum, the rest are expensive (2600-3300) and they STILL get beat by Imp. Legions on a regular map. HOWEVER, Gallic heavy cavarly can beat Cavarly Auxilia. That, along with Geasatae scarying infantry, is the best thing the Gauls have going for them. But, due to the cost of thier units and the bad preformance of their normal units the Gallic army will usually be a few units short, or have a lot of normla not so good units.

--The Romani on the other had, have an easier time getting thier troops. Cheap but extremely good legions but decent cavarly. SO the smart ROmani player will upgrade thier cavarly to match/beat the Gallic one. This is made posible because he only has to pay 2400+ for an Imp. Legion, while the Gallic player had to pay 3200-3300 for a Soldurus, Cornetus, and Gaesatae, or pay 2600+ for a Neitos that is a not as good the previews three.

--So what ends up happeing, the Romani player can have a full stack of good units AND STILL have $$ left for upgrades. While the Gallic player will have to cut his army even shorter to afford the upgrades. On top of that, IF the Gallic players tries to upgrade his normal units they still will be no match to the Romani.

--As you can see, the faction with the most cost-to-benefit advantege ends up being given even a bigger advantege by updrades.

See where I am going with this...... Somebody is being made worst off.

NOW... HOLD ON A SECOND! THESE RULES SHOULD NOT BE WRITTEN IS STONE. BEFORE THE BATTLE PLAYERS CAN CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THEM OR MAKE THIER OWN!!!!

Something that could be done with regards to upgrades that I can live with (as I can tell I am really not a fan of MP upgrades) is after both sides have chosen thier armies. Give out $1000 extra solely to upgrade whatever units they will like. This way, the guy who has the "weaker" (that depends on the players skills and luck in the game) faction doesn't have to cut his army short to do upgrades.

[Emperor Burakuku]

The upgrades can be fixed from the EDU file. Right now they're so unbalanced that carthaginian phalanx's upgrade for armour is only 100 mnai while the makedonian elite phalanx costs 691 mnai for upgrading armour. We should try to fix that when 1.0 comes up.

[Ariovistus]

hum.... maybe... you the Factions are not "balanced" since this is a historical game.

Some factions will outpreform others depending on how much $$ you will get. Ex: AS, preforms really good in LOTS of $$ (50K and up), and lil $$ battles (20k-30k). Its more easely beaten in regular $$ (30k-40k)

Aedui/Arveni do REALLY bad in short $$ campains, in medium $$ they do thier best, in Big $$ you have to get lucky.

We have to set ruls, but we probably need to make some more Specific Rulz.


Well, why don't you guys then make three titles for three different type of battles, defined by the $$ you may spend?

[NeoSpartan]

Well actually we do...

they are commonly called: (at least when I am around to play, 12am-3am Eastern Standard Time US)

1-Broke Money: 15k-29K
2-Normal Money: 30K-39K
3-Big Money: 40k-46K
4-Really Big Money: 47K and above.

However, there is no "rule" to which factions a player can choose. You play with whomever you want, but u have to be aware of the consequences.

On the upgrades:
-I think I heard that the EB team was going to make some chages to the upgrades, not just in cost but also in their effect.

[madmatg]

as of right now i think anyone who wants to play MP should definitely keep .81 or hold off on 1.0 for the time being, as after trying with 3 different people we have had no success in running the game on MP, everytime it gives a not the same game data screen when someone hosts. just a heads up i'm sure it'll get fixed eventually but for any of you who have become addicted to MP(like me) make sure you keep .81 til it does get fixed

[Sarkiss]

as of right now i think anyone who wants to play MP should definitely keep .81 or hold off on 1.0 for the time being, as after trying with 3 different people we have had no success in running the game on MP, everytime it gives a not the same game data screen when someone hosts. just a heads up i'm sure it'll get fixed eventually but for any of you who have become addicted to MP(like me) make sure you keep .81 til it does get fixed
it might be map.rwm file
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1707190#post1707190
btw, i already uninlstalleed and deleted 0.8 and all its traces lol.

[Bonny]

Yes, this is the mpa.rwm problem. appearently it seems, that we have forgotten to add one.

If you want to play multiplayer all players need to have the same map.rwm file (it is placed in your eb/data/world/maps/base folder) One of the players need to upload his map.rwm and all other need to download it and replace their own file with this one, only then you will be able to join a multiplayer game.

[Emperor Burakuku]

as of right now i think anyone who wants to play MP should definitely keep .81 or hold off on 1.0 for the time being, as after trying with 3 different people we have had no success in running the game on MP, everytime it gives a not the same game data screen when someone hosts. just a heads up i'm sure it'll get fixed eventually but for any of you who have become addicted to MP(like me) make sure you keep .81 til it does get fixed

Too late for that. Have to reinstall rome and 0.81. Darn!

[madmatg]

doea someone wanna delete their map.rwm file, start anew campaign, and upload their new map.rwm file onto this thread?

if not i will do it sunday night or monday morning when i get back to my comp, cant wait to play EB 1.0 MP!

[Sarkiss]

here it is
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BNKR8XHZ
goes to eb/data/world/maps/base folder
dont forget to replace the original edu with custom one in your EB/Data first though. it will not automatically overwrite it so what i did is changed custom edu's name to what it should have been and then replaced.

[madmatg]

wait what custom edu are we using now? for 1.0 we dont havea custom one yet? are you talkin about the MP edu?

[Sarkiss]

wait what custom edu are we using now? for 1.0 we dont havea custom one yet? are you talkin about the MP edu?
custom edu is in EB, in "mp custom game edu" folder.

[NeoSpartan]

i am getting lost here fellas.....:dizzy2:

[Emperor Burakuku]

custom edu is in EB, in "mp custom game edu" folder.

I think Sarkiss means: "Rome - Total War/EB/mp custom game edu" right?

[Sarkiss]

I think Sarkiss means: "Rome - Total War/EB/mp custom game edu" right?
yep

[mAIOR]

Hey! After viewing the units in the unit cards, I was surprised to see some inconsistency amongst the armor values. Who agrees we should make some changes in the EDU so to fix these (for instance Thracian Peltast unit has the same defense value as the regular Peltast but, it has two extra leg greeves)?


Cheers...

[NeoSpartan]

Hey! After viewing the units in the unit cards, I was surprised to see some inconsistency amongst the armor values. Who agrees we should make some changes in the EDU so to fix these (for instance Thracian Peltast unit has the same defense value as the regular Peltast but, it has two extra leg greeves)?


Cheers...

hey were can I find the new cards.....

btw I won't be in MP for the next week I got midterm exams comming up :wall:

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

New cards are in the documentation folder, uploaded to your Rome - Total War folder with the EB v1.0 download.

[Pharnakes]

I'm back guys, however no eb for me now as I don't have a decent enough comp, this one i'm using can't even run vannila let alone eb:bigcry:. At the very least though I will now keep the first post up to date, however it realy would be better if someone else would take over the administration, with a new thread, as I no longer know what you guys are using to play. Just before I left I seem to remember some mention of battle net? did that ever take off? Well, hope you all have a great time with eb mp people, words cannot describe how jealous I am:furious2:

[NeoSpartan]

Well a lot of people can get into battle net...

EXEPT FOR ME :wall:, and Gaius, (and maybe some other people I don't know). I have a wireless connection and everytime I log in my internet changes the IP address so I couldn't get the router to allow RTW in via an ip address because it will change it right after. :no: Gaius doesn't have his CD key for MP.

Barakuku (sp) can't get his hamachi to work, madmatg was trying to help him but it didn't work. (there maybe some other people how can't get hamachi running)

[Pharnakes]

Who's Gaius? As for the rest, I can't help you people, my uni's internet policy prohibits any program not directly pluged into a browser from conecting to the internet:no:

[NeoSpartan]

he rarely posts but he lurks around...

[Pharnakes]

Well, whoever he is can have a cd key if he asks me (no, not an illegal hack).

[madmatg]

to pharnakes - the link for the map.rwm doesnt work it says teh file has been removed

[Pharnakes]

Some one post a valid link and I'll edit it into the first post then.

Make sure it is a new map.rwm, delete the one in your folder atm, then start and close eb, then take the map.rwm and host it here: http://uploaded.to/

Then i'll edit it in replacment for the old one in the first post.

[madmatg]

here ya go pharn, its not download.com thingy but my google webpage has the link on it

http://europabarb.googlepages.com/mapfile

[Pharnakes]

Done, I downloaded it and re-uploaded it to make it a one step process.

[madmatg]

im' playing now with taht new map.rwm and MP works again so it seems!

[desvott]

my x-fire name is desvott

[madmatg]

pharnakes can you add the bit about where to put that Map.rwm folder
is goes to rtw/eb/data/world/maps/base

thanks

[Pharnakes]

Done, also,which edu are you playing with?

[mAIOR]

Hey I just wanted to ask you what do you feel about mp battles having the old skies and reflections.
Many people are complaining about the long load times so, it might help to use the older versions.


Cheers...

[madmatg]

i would definitely be on that, wheer do i get that stuff at? also the mp edu is constantly being added to with the local mercs from each faction being put in so if yall want more complete mp edu for factions other than rome just holler at me and i'll send it to ya, also if you play a faction other than getai or rome, holler at me as i would like a list of the mercs taht can be found in your immediate area so i can add to the unit list

thanks
Matt

[Sarkiss]

i would definitely be on that, wheer do i get that stuff at? also the mp edu is constantly being added to with the local mercs from each faction being put in so if yall want more complete mp edu for factions other than rome just holler at me and i'll send it to ya, also if you play a faction other than getai or rome, holler at me as i would like a list of the mercs taht can be found in your immediate area so i can add to the unit list

thanks
Matt
i dont think adding even more mercenaries is a good idea. isnt there already a great variety available? you are not trying to recreate v0.8's factions rosters are you?:laugh4:

[madmatg]

no no i dont want there to be the huge rosters lol, but i think having the troops which were histrorically used by the factions, in their homelands and immediately neighboring areas is good. For example thracian peltasts are mercenaries, as well as belearic sligners, and kretan archers but they were used a good bit(from what little i know about them) so i would like to see the regional mercs as i said just local ones. i dont know whatdya think? i would probably be ok with no mercs as long as we nerf some factions mp unit lists as they came in the vanilla custome edu file. such as the romans who have a huge following of mercenary type units. what say you mp players?

[NeoSpartan]

I just want the dag on MP working by the time I am done with midterms :wall:

I don't want another "oh no its not compatible"
... nor do I want another "oh no I am missing C,Y,Z units"
...and I really don't want "HEY WTF IS THIS S****??? WHY IS THIS MERC/REGIONAL CHEAPER/STRONGER THAN MY REGULAR UNIT!!!! I AM GONNA **** somebody I **** this **** them M******, *****, **** (thats me talking :yes:)"

[madmatg]

lol neo the stuff is ready and waiting just make sure you have the map.rwm from the first post of this thread and get whatever version mp edu is going around from me and you shouold be good

[Pharnakes]

WHOOOOO!!:laugh4: :2thumbsup: :beam: :yes: :egypt: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :yes: :beam: :beam: :beam: :egypt: :clown:

I have done it!!

My stupid university internet blocking is overridden:2thumbsup:

Now I just need a new comp ( 2 weeks) and I will return to the EB mp comunity!

So, who's still active? Bovii? mAIOR? Sarkis? Bonny? Lovejoy? Demulon? Kinghannibal?

We had some great games, hope some of you are still playing:yes:

[mAIOR]

I'll be active after this weekend when my exams are done ^_^
Right now it's only Rugby 2008 for me...


Cheers...

[Sarkiss]

havent played since v1 came out, but i surely will.

[Bonny]

WHOOOOO!!:laugh4: :2thumbsup: :beam: :yes: :egypt: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :yes: :beam: :beam: :beam: :egypt: :clown:

I have done it!!

My stupid university internet blocking is overridden:2thumbsup:

Now I just need a new comp ( 2 weeks) and I will return to the EB mp comunity!

So, who's still active? Bovii? mAIOR? Sarkis? Bonny? Lovejoy? Demulon? Kinghannibal?

We had some great games, hope some of you are still playing:yes:

:2thumbsup:
I haven't played for some month. After the 1.0 release i wanted but i did not find anyone in Xfire. We should really play again.

[NeoSpartan]

so.... did u get MP working??????????

[bovi]

I haven't played since we last played... And my internet connection is still screwy.

[madmatg]

eb mp does work as far as i can tell the only problem is the mp edu leaves something to be done because some factions havel ike 40 units to choose from while otherse have like 15

[Pharnakes]

This is good to hear, glad you are all still around.


I haven't played for some month. After the 1.0 release i wanted but i did not find anyone in Xfire. We should really play again.

Unfortunatley you still won't see me on X-fire.

The reason I will be able to play eb is this:

My uni blocks everything that could not be used for an acedemic purpose (fair enough I am forced to admit, though very annoying), however, hamachi is not on the ban list, so it can still connct to the internet. As eb is played through hamachii anyway, there are no problems for me. I only found this out last night, so that is why you haven't heard form me untill now.



eb mp does work as far as i can tell the only problem is the mp edu leaves something to be done because some factions havel ike 40 units to choose from while otherse have like 15

I assume that this is simply the same issue that the custom battles encounter, and can be solved by the same procces of swaping in a custom edu.

[madmatg]

@pharnakes - the problem is the custom mp edu has that problem not the sp one, so we have to add in the units to the custom mp edu

[Pharnakes]

EH?

So what's the difference between the custom mp edu and the single player custom edu?

[NeoSpartan]

the costum mp edu is missing units.

for example: the Romani faction doesn't have ANY of its legions, the KH doesn't have their phalangite and a few other units.... and the list goes on. But like mad said, the number of units missing varies from faction to faction, some are missing a lot, others are just missing a few.

and that REALLY ticks me off :wall:

[Bonny]

the costum mp edu is missing units.

for example: the Romani faction doesn't have ANY of its legions, the KH doesn't have their phalangite and a few other units.... and the list goes on. But like mad said, the number of units missing varies from faction to faction, some are missing a lot, others are just missing a few.

and that REALLY ticks me off

It is the other way round!

In the costum EDU the factions have ALL of their factional units, while in the sp edu those units are not visible, because of the many different units which care available to each faction.

[madmatg]

the Multiplayer edu has all the factional units but for some factions it doesnt seem right, ie. the romani have like 30 units but other factions i'm not sure how many but i know the KH are indeed missing their phalangite so i had to add them in and i dont know about other factions because i dont know their full unit list.

[NeoSpartan]

the Multiplayer edu has all the factional units but for some factions it doesnt seem right, ie. the romani have like 30 units but other factions i'm not sure how many but i know the KH are indeed missing their phalangite so i had to add them in and i dont know about other factions because i dont know their full unit list.


...and that REALLY ticks me off :wall:

[Anarzius]

...

[Bonny]

the Multiplayer edu has all the factional units but for some factions it doesnt seem right, ie. the romani have like 30 units but other factions i'm not sure how many but i know the KH are indeed missing their phalangite so i had to add them in and i dont know about other factions because i dont know their full unit list.

Oh, that seesm to be an oversight then.
Last time i tried the mp edu with KH was in july with Helix 3, there i could still select th KH phalangites. Seem to get lost during the udpate process.



...and that REALLY ticks me off

All factions have more units than they had in vanilla.
Some factions still have less than others that might be correct. But not all factions are equal in this case.
Tha AS have recruited celtic, steppe, persian and hellenic soldiers throughout their empire, so they can use them in costum/mp battle, too. It would not make much sense for the Saka rauka to get celtic units would it. It wouldnt make sense to give them the complete hellenic rooster.

[NeoSpartan]

.....
All factions have more units than they had in vanilla.
Some factions still have less than others that might be correct. But not all factions are equal in this case.
Tha AS have recruited celtic, steppe, persian and hellenic soldiers throughout their empire, so they can use them in costum/mp battle, too. It would not make much sense for the Saka rauka to get celtic units would it. It wouldnt make sense to give them the complete hellenic rooster.

Nonononononononononononono...... u misunderstood the post, but thats ok it was vage to begin with, and only the few people with whom I've played MP get it.

[Eduorius]

Hi MP guys:2thumbsup:

Hey I have a question for you. Does the historical battles work for multiplayer? I think that Ebhernis must work since it have no scripting.

Well thanks for your time. :yes:

Eduardo

[NeoSpartan]

Hi MP guys:2thumbsup:

Hey I have a question for you. Does the historical battles work for multiplayer? I think that Ebhernis must work since it have no scripting.

Well thanks for your time. :yes:

Eduardo

didn't work in .81x don't know about 1.0 though... however, I highly doubt that they work since regular MP is messed up pretty bad. :wall:

[Pharnakes]

Has anybody made a proper mp edu yet?

If not I will start on it tonight.


Here hoping I will get my new comp tommorow, and then...:smash:


BTW, people, sorry to have to ask this of you, after being so in favour of Xfire all this time, but if you want to contact me, you'll need to use either msn or skype.

MSN: pharnakes@hotmail.co.uk
Skype: pharnakes

I know mAIOR has skype at least, but I'm afriad I deleted you when I had to change account, and now I can't remeber your skype.:shame:

Miguel dan sliva.... something like that, yes?:laugh4:

[mAIOR]

Miguel da Silva Batista :)

I've added you again on skype :p


Cheers...

[NeoSpartan]

Has anybody made a proper mp edu yet?

If not I will start on it tonight.


Here hoping I will get my new comp tommorow, and then...:smash:


BTW, people, sorry to have to ask this of you, after being so in favour of Xfire all this time, but if you want to contact me, you'll need to use either msn or skype.

MSN: pharnakes@hotmail.co.uk
Skype: pharnakes

I know mAIOR has skype at least, but I'm afriad I deleted you when I had to change account, and now I can't remeber your skype.:shame:

Miguel dan sliva.... something like that, yes?:laugh4:

hey man why would u get rid of of xfire?????? It is good since u can chat WITHOUT leaving the game. U can also use ur microphone if u want (although I don't recommend it for MP as it uses up more RAM).

plus EVERYONE is on xfire now so might as well stick with it.

[Pharnakes]

I can't, my uni's internet service blocks it.

Its so anoying, I could lok at any porn or anything on the internet, yet it blocks perfectly legitimate things like x fire.:wall:

[Sarkiss]

Has anybody made a proper mp edu yet?

If not I will start on it tonight.


Here hoping I will get my new comp tommorow, and then...:smash:

is it worth digging it now, isnt 1.1 not far away from the release?

[NeoSpartan]

(warning... incomming :furious3: rant)


is it worth digging it now, isnt 1.1 not far away from the release?

YES IT IS DANG ON WORTH TO DIG IN!!!!

I do NOT know when 1.1 comes out, and neither do you. BUT there have been NO previews of any changes, and NO consitent talk about DEFINITIVE changes/improvements being made.

So I can tell you with 100% cerntenty that EB 1.1 will NOT be out for AT BARE MINIMUN another 5 weeks. And what happens in after 5 weeks from today Dec 4th 2007???? 2nd Semester of College BEGINS! So NO more resting and free time to play in mid/late January!!!

NOW starting in mid December is the PERFECT time to play. It is the PERFECT time to spend HOURS in MP!!!!

Do NOT discourage the only man capable, willing, and able of making such fixing to the files. Because last time I MP Bovi NOBODY in the team was fixing it, and I am both too dumb to do it myself, and too short on time. :wall:


edit... oh snap that came a little too angry sorry Sarkiss :shame: ... but please really don't discourage Pharnakes, if u can lend the man a hand as I am too dumb to do it. :no:

[Pharnakes]

Really, you say such nice things about me. :smug:

Actualy I could do with a hand, at least until I get my new comp, IIRC you had skype, Neospartan, sergio garcia? not sure thats right, so best if you add me. I just need somebody who can actualy see the units ingame, cause I can't play at all, ATM.

[Sarkiss]

(warning... incomming :furious3: rant)



YES IT IS DANG ON WORTH TO DIG IN!!!!

I do NOT know when 1.1 comes out, and neither do you. BUT there have been NO previews of any changes, and NO consitent talk about DEFINITIVE changes/improvements being made.

So I can tell you with 100% cerntenty that EB 1.1 will NOT be out for AT BARE MINIMUN another 5 weeks. And what happens in after 5 weeks from today Dec 4th 2007???? 2nd Semester of College BEGINS! So NO more resting and free time to play in mid/late January!!!

NOW starting in mid December is the PERFECT time to play. It is the PERFECT time to spend HOURS in MP!!!!

Do NOT discourage the only man capable, willing, and able of making such fixing to the files. Because last time I MP Bovi NOBODY in the team was fixing it, and I am both too dumb to do it myself, and too short on time. :wall:


edit... oh snap that came a little too angry sorry Sarkiss :shame: ... but please really don't discourage Pharnakes, if u can lend the man a hand as I am too dumb to do it. :no:
its cool:laugh4:
i "could" do some editing but have no time at all.
regarding 1.1 i really thought it is a matter of next couple of weeks and should be released before Christmas with MP issues addressed anyhow. but if no one is working on MP... then go Pharny, go!:beam:

[Pharnakes]

You do realise, that for every line of code I do, you all owe me a balloon?:clown:

[Sarkiss]

You do realise, that for every line of code I do, you all owe me a balloon?:clown:
there ya go:balloon2: one in advance. now, get to work!!!:whip: :laugh4:

couldnt resist
:spammer:

[Bonny]

Has anybody made a proper mp edu yet?

what is the problem with the existing mp edu, which is shipped with 1.0?

All factions have acces to all of their faction units and some selected regionals. Do you want to redo the stats and costs?

[Pharnakes]

Well, apparently not. All units, I mean.

[NeoSpartan]

what is the problem with the existing mp edu, which is shipped with 1.0?

All factions have acces to all of their faction units and some selected regionals. Do you want to redo the stats and costs?

FACTIONAL UNITS are missing :yes:

[madmatg]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=94823

this seems to have an updated mp edu

[Pharnakes]

WOOOOOTTT!!!!!!!!!!

AT LAST!!!!!

NEW COMPUTER!!!!!

So, who wants a mp match?

Like I said, no x fire, but if I'm lit up, drop me a pm or message me on msn or skype, see above.

[Admetos]

You've got no time to play multiplayer Pharnakes. MAKE THAT MAP! :whip:

[Rodion Romanovich]

Anyone up for EB mp this weekend? Note though, that I'm too lazy to have x-fire and other programs so it'll just be plain playing through the admittedly buggy - but acceptably stable - lobby.

Rules suggestion:
- 20k or 25k mnai
- no artillery
- match factions historically (i.e. no Lusotannan vs Saka and so on)
- pick any troop composition you like. My experience was that the mnai limitation above will automatically force you to pick historical and balanced armies
- any historical battle reenaction (through custom battle though) suggestions are welcome, but the actual battle tactics needn't follow history.

[Gourmet]

Score another one for the multi-player board!

X-Fire name: gourmetitalia

[Pharnakes]

OK, people, don't know what strange things you have been doing untill now, but this is how to put in the mp edu for 1.0:


Find your RTW route folder. Go into eb folder. Find the folder called mp custom game edu. go into it, copy the custom_edu, and paste it into the same folder. Then, rename one of them to export_descr_unit, and copy that one.

Go up, then in to the data folder, and paste the file into eb/data. Tell it to overwrite.

N.B. If it doesn't ask to overwrite, then you have done something wrong.

When you want to retrun to sp, repeat the process, only use te file that you find in eb/sp game edu backup, though I personaly would recomend two installs of eb, one for mp and one for sp (so you can apply the fixes, which mp runs without as deafualt.


How to make two installs of eb. Thanks to the genius of Dol Guldur, eb is as of 1.0 is now a pure mod-folder instalation. This means you can have two copies of it running out of the same vannila install, without the risk of clashes. To do this find your 1.0 intalation, and right click on it. Press extract to eb1.0, and let it run.

When it is finnished, open the folder and inside should be a folder called eb. Rename it eb mp, and paste it into your rtw folder. Then, go to your desktop and find your 1.0 shortcut. Copy and paste it, and rename one ebmp. Then right click on ebmp, and go to properties. Change the traget line from mod:eb to mod:ebmp. Press apply and then ok, and you should be sorted.

[NeoSpartan]

Yeah folks of if any of u guys can get in X-fire and/or skype and run a couple of MP battles to make sure this thing is working.

Unfortunatly I got exams this week and next week and I can't play/test :wall:

[Bonny]

When it is finnished, open the folder and inside should be a folder called eb. Rename it eb mp, and paste it into your rtw folder. Then, go to your desktop and find your 1.0 shortcut. Copy and paste it, and rename one ebmp. Then right click on ebmp, and go to properties. Change the traget line from mod:eb to mod:ebmp. Press apply and then ok, and you should be sorted.

have you tested this?

[Pharnakes]

Nope, but bovi has several times specificaly said that eb 1.0 is a pure mod folder installation, which is easily provable if you look at what is acctualy inside the instaler. Given that, this is guaranteed to work. I hope.:embarassed:

[NeoSpartan]

pharn.... always test stuff always test stuff. No matter what has been said.

[madmatg]

pharn i dont mean to keep pounding this point but the original mp edu that comes with EB is, I believe sorely missing units for many factions so you may wanna look at the few edu's that people have posted for new ones

[Pharnakes]

Which units?

I haven't noticed any.

[Malik of Sindh]

The link to map. mw in the first post seems to be dead. Can anyone post a link to map.rmw?

[Admetos]

Right, I think I'm going to have to try out multiplayer. My Xfire name is: megasadmetos.


Originally Posted by Pharnakes
How to make two installs of eb. Thanks to the genius of Dol Guldur, eb is as of 1.0 is now a pure mod-folder instalation. This means you can have two copies of it running out of the same vannila install, without the risk of clashes. To do this find your 1.0 intalation, and right click on it. Press extract to eb1.0, and let it run.

When it is finnished, open the folder and inside should be a folder called eb. Rename it eb mp, and paste it into your rtw folder. Then, go to your desktop and find your 1.0 shortcut. Copy and paste it, and rename one ebmp. Then right click on ebmp, and go to properties. Change the traget line from mod:eb to mod:ebmp. Press apply and then ok, and you should be sorted.

I think it's probably safer to have a seperate vanilla install for MP, like I guess was used for MP on 0.8. This is because the text files in the mod-folder "EBMP" will still be referencing the mod-folder "EB" for skins, models, etc. I don't know if this will cause instability, but today I couldn't get MP to work with Malik until I had a seperate MP install. There's probably a logical explanation, but before I had a seperate MP install, I did try just a new mod-folder like you explained, but that didn't work, which led me to think it's better to have a seperate install for MP. Of course, everything I just wrote is probably wrong...

[NeoSpartan]

....
I think it's probably safer to have a seperate vanilla install for MP, like I guess was used for MP on 0.8. ...

those were never issues with .8x, i never used 2 installs of EB or Vanilla.

[Admetos]

Ah, well I never played 0.8 multiplayer.

[Gebeleisis]

yo guys ,add this n00b up:laugh4:

xfire: gebeleisis31:2thumbsup:

[Matinius Brutus]

just registered x-fire name : matiniusbrutus

[NeoSpartan]

Well my PC got fixed and upgraded BUT the mother**********ers at the PC place did get my wireless internet working :wall: . I am waiting for this guy next to my office to come in at 5pm, he fixes PCs too and maybe he can get it ROLLING!


fingers crossed

[NeoSpartan]

internet is FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!

time re-dl and instal Xfire and skype!

[Sarkiss]

has anyone actually succeeded in playing MP with 1.0?
Pharn, how is your editing progressing?

[NeoSpartan]

not me man :wall:

[Gebeleisis]

what problems do oyu guys get :\?

[Alexandros Maximus]

Registered.

Xfire name: dirtymoneysyndicate

Available: Randomly...i never check what time it is when i play.

[Alexandros Maximus]

cant get hamachi to work...disabled windows firewall...still wont work....opened ports 67 and 68 on my router, still doesnt work!

HELP!!!

[Alexandros Maximus]

reconnected, and it works, nevermind

[Dr Octo]

X-Fire name = Ketanga

Message me any time you see me on X-Fire. It's likely I'll be happy to play.

[Pius Curus]

Hi all,
can I play EB online when I have version 8.2a or I have to reinstal to version 1.0 (current version)?

Thank you

[Gebeleisis]

to play against people that have 1.0 you need this version and becuase most of us have it you should upgrade.

download 1.0 from here (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/downloads_mod.html):2thumbsup:

[NeoSpartan]

to play against people that have 1.0 you need this version and becuase most of us have it you should upgrade.

download 1.0 from here (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/downloads_mod.html):2thumbsup:

hum.... are u playing mp Gebeleisis in 1.0???????

[Pius Curus]

Thank you guys!

Today I upgrade:) I hope that I will be able to play EB online without problems!

[Pius Curus]

Hi all,

I was yesterday on Himachi, but nobody was online....:(...will be anybody online on the servers EB00, EB01 today, pls? Midde European time 18:00-23:00. I will be there to try!

[Gebeleisis]

hum.... are u playing mp Gebeleisis in 1.0???????
is there something wrong:inquisitive: ?:2thumbsup:

[NeoSpartan]

is there something wrong:inquisitive: ?:2thumbsup:

nothing wrong.... just answer the question. Then I will respond in full.

[Gebeleisis]

well yes, i am available to play 1.0 mp :)

[NeoSpartan]

:wall: nononononononono...

I mean are u playing EB MP with 1.0 or have u played EB MP with 1.0????? I am not asking for availability.

[Gebeleisis]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

well i tried but didnt seem to work,always giving errors,

i tried with dr octo and for the historical beta test:no:

[NeoSpartan]

:wall: I was hoping you would give some good news... but I guess we are stuck waiting for 1.1 :no:

[Gebeleisis]

at least we can be happy that this problem shall be solved then :D

[NeoSpartan]

at least we can be happy that this problem shall be solved then :D

well I ain't happy, ~:pissed: MP is the best thing ever and it ain't working, not even a patch to fix has been made :thumbsdown:

[Gebeleisis]

maybe its their tactic to keep us waiting for 1.1 :laugh4:

[Pius Curus]

Guys, the MP with HAMACHI doesnt work or what? I wait every day on the servers EB00 and EB01. I saw there only one man but I was not able to play! What can I do to play with you??? Help me please!!! Dont let me bother about Rome Total War multiplayer, that is terrible!!! I want to play online EB!!!

[NeoSpartan]

Pius have read the last two pages of this thread????????? :inquisitive: