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Marshal Murat
05-03-2007, 11:26
Queen Visits America (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6618135.stm)
As the 400th Anniversary of Jamestown settlement (1607-2007) rolls around, it's almost like New Years, except its 400 years of American History we are reviewing.
I'd like to ask that every person that views this post contribute some tadbit of Americana to this thread. A reminder of why Jamestown was so important to the world at large.
Come on, I know deep in that heart, you really love America.
And if you don't, just remember, we either beat your butt, or saved it during WW1 and WW2.
1.We got a democratic system that has stood for nearly 200 years, a beacon of freedom and rights that has inspired the American.
And if you don't, just remember, we either beat your butt, or saved it during WW1 and WW2.
Yeah we were allies during WW1 then you saved our ass during WW2........then the US supported a fascist dictatorship in this country that had our progress on hold for 50 or so years.......so it kinda evens itself out....:juggle2:
America is like any other country.....lofty in ideals...but many times failing in their aplication.
InsaneApache
05-03-2007, 12:21
Here's tit bit for ya....
But it would not be the first time that army chiefs have had to weigh such risks. During the War of Independence, American revolutionaries tried to take hostage the future King William IV.
His Royal Highness Midshipman Prince William, as he was then known, was 13 when, in June 1779, he set sail on HMS Prince George.
It was in these inauspicious circumstances that in July 1781 William became the first member of the royal family to set foot in America. Nonetheless, when the Prince George dropped anchor off New York – which was still a British garrison – the local American loyalists enthusiastically welcomed their royal saviour.
Taking a less charitable interest were the American insurgents, camped on the other side of the Hudson River. Spies reported the prince’s movements and that his New York quarters were lightly guarded. Colonel Robert Ogden, of the 1st Jersey “Patriots”, drew up a detailed plan in which his men would overwhelm the guards, kidnap William and make off with him back across the Hudson.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/graham_stewart/article1717308.ece
Happy birthday Jimmytown. :2thumbsup:
You couldn't kidnap Phil the Greek could you? :inquisitive: He's got a thing about Indians. :laugh4:
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
05-03-2007, 12:22
Titbit on America?
Ok, the Green Jackects (60th of Foot, aka the "Royal American Rifles" adopted Green jackets and rifles in order to hunt Colonials during the War of Independance. They were so effective that the local American commanders in one area took to killing British prisoners in revenge, which prompted the battalian of the 60th Foot responsible to wear a goose feather dipped in blood to mark them out and spare their comrades.
So the story goes.
Really, you didn't save anyone in WW1 and you weren't the first democratic country by a long shot.
Pannonian
05-03-2007, 12:41
Queen Visits America (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6618135.stm)
As the 400th Anniversary of Jamestown settlement (1607-2007) rolls around, it's almost like New Years, except its 400 years of American History we are reviewing.
I'd like to ask that every person that views this post contribute some tadbit of Americana to this thread. A reminder of why Jamestown was so important to the world at large.
Come on, I know deep in that heart, you really love America.
And if you don't, just remember, we either beat your butt, or saved it during WW1 and WW2.
1.We got a democratic system that has stood for nearly 200 years, a beacon of freedom and rights that has inspired the American.
Here ya go, your Americana historical tidbit. By the way, thanks for either beating our butt or saving it in the 2 world wars.
On 24th August 1814, American militia forces faced a professional British force at Bladensburg, to defend their capital. The Americans outnumbered the British, and President James Madison and Secretary of State James Monroe were on hand to boost morale. The Americans chose a good defensive position, forcing the British before they could engage. It was a bloody battle, as the American artillery mauled the British columns sa they crossed the bridge. The battle reached its climax when the Americans fled before contact was even made (shades of RTW's chain routs). The rout was so complete, with soldiers dropping their weapons so they could run faster, that the battle became mockingly known as "The Bladensburg Races". Their performance convinced the US government to drop their previous reliance on militias for defence, and led to the establishment of a standing army.
Now we'll just have to wait for Louis to describe how the French saved American asses and helped give them their independence.
Geoffrey S
05-03-2007, 13:26
And if you don't, just remember, we either beat your butt, or saved it during WW1 and WW2.
That's right, turn a potentially interesting topic off course right off the bat with a line offensive to anyone not American. Way to go!:2thumbsup:
Gregoshi
05-03-2007, 13:35
Yonder comes Sir Robin of :dancinglock:-sley
And if you don't, just remember, we either beat your butt, or saved it during WW1 and WW2.
Maybe a :dancinglock: and a second try with a nicer OP?
Queen Visits America (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6618135.stm)
I'd like to ask that every person that views this post contribute some tadbit of Americana to this thread.
A tidbit: George Washington and John Pershing are the only two american generals to attain the rank of "General of the armies". One rank above a 5 star general. In Pershings case he was given the rank after WWI and allowed to create his own insignia, he kept the 4 stars. Since he was a live during WWII it was determined that Pershing would be the senior officer amongst the 5 stars (at the time the new rank of general of the army was created for a 5 star general rank).
Washington was granted the rank posthumously by congress and president ford in 1976.
A 6 star insignia has never been designated by the military but the rank of "General of the armies" is the highest rank a U.S. military officer can achieve, which is higher then "general of the army" a 5 star rank.
just remember, we either beat your butt, or saved it during WW1 and WW2.
Old news, its 2007 time to let the past go.
CrossLOPER
05-03-2007, 14:31
I was thinking about saying something nasty, but I changed my mind.
Seriously, that little line and the overall presentation are seriously off-putting. Not sure if another thread needs to be started, but Org members tend to stay mad for a bit.
R'as al Ghul
05-03-2007, 14:55
A reminder of why Jamestown was so important to the world at large.
In remembrance of this event National Geographic Germany titles its new issue: "How a pig, a worm and the tabacco plant sealed the fate of the (Native American) Indians"
Big King Sanctaphrax
05-03-2007, 15:03
In remembrance of this event National Geographic Germany titles its new issue: "How a pig, a worm and the tabacco plant sealed the fate of the (Native American) Indians"
I read that article, it's very good even by NG's usual high standards.
KukriKhan
05-03-2007, 15:23
I was thinking about saying something nasty, but I changed my mind.
Seriously, that little line and the overall presentation are seriously off-putting. Not sure if another thread needs to be started, but Org members tend to stay mad for a bit.
Points noted, and restraint appreciated. :bow:
Perhaps a similar topic will arise, to which backroomers can warm without chest-beating and reactive bashing.
This one is closed.
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