View Full Version : New Mini Mafia [Concluded]
Since Pevers mini game died away:
First of all, mini mafia's always seem to suffer from inactiviness. And I have no clue why. However let me say this: I will be active. I will update this every 24 hours. If you don't send in your night actions, bad luck, the game will continue. I think there are enough people to play in a quick mafia game so you can also quickly be replaced. But if you think you might be inactive do say so, means it's easier to search for a replacement.
Furthermore this game will mostly have basic rules, I think you should make a mini game too complicated and too dependant on loads of roles. This should be a quick and fun game, as fun is what mafia is about.
Rules:
-Everyone will recieve a PM, this is just to make you aware that a game just started. Loads of people say they will be in and never show up again.
-No screenshots and stuff. Quote everything you want tho.
-Roles won't be revealed upon death by me, and I take it the players will be so nice to not reveal either. Otherwise I'll personally pay you a visit. :whip:
-Rounds will take 24 hours, that's 24 hours day and then 24 hours of night.
-Bold your votes.
-Once your inactive (that's not posting for 24 hours) I'll PM you to kick you into the thread. If you don't show up I'll ask for a replacement. Mini games are all about being active. If you don't even bother to reply to my PM I doubt I will allow you into my big game.
Roles:
We'll have 12 players. 2 of those players will be the bad guys, the mafia, or whatever I decide to call them. There will be a 3rd special role. A pro-town role. I won't reveal this role and the player with this role won't be allowed to give the specifics of this role. He's only allowed to claim it.
Final note:
I'll be active, will you be.
Now sign up
In (12):
Mightilyoats
Sasaki
Warmaster Horus
Andres
Omanes
Caius
TS
Roadkill
Pever
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
Sign Ups closed
mightilyoats
05-08-2007, 16:23
Stig, I would LOVE to play, BUT, I can only post during the week. I am without internet on the weekends. Will that be okay?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-08-2007, 16:26
/in
Warmaster Horus
05-08-2007, 16:34
In.
Might be a bit (read:maybe very) inactive though, but I'll do my best to post within 24 hours.
Stig, I would LOVE to play, BUT, I can only post during the week. I am without internet on the weekends. Will that be okay?
I think that with that you will be more active then others who sign up
Sides I myself also have problems in weekends, so you're in
mightilyoats
05-08-2007, 16:54
Im in then!
It's been a while since I joined a Mini...
In!
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-08-2007, 19:16
In!
Of course I will be active.
The Stranger
05-08-2007, 19:33
in... and andres is out...!!
RoadKill
05-08-2007, 20:56
In.
pevergreen
05-08-2007, 23:47
/in FTW
CountArach
05-09-2007, 04:58
In I am.
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 11:20
So when do we start?
I guess when 1 more person join (and made it 12 players)
When Stig is online, of course! Why do you seems so eager to start? Wanted to 'finish' somebody?
Execute: Warmaster Horus ~;p
CountArach
05-09-2007, 11:40
:o
Its just because he posted right before you, isn't it?!
Vote: Tran, eagre for a lynch.
Is voting all you can do, CA?
Delay Execution: Warmaster Horus
Shoot: CountArach, now you're dead and your vote is useless...
Well since I update every 24 hours I need to find a time which really suits me. This is 19:00 hours for me. Except for sunday when it will be 21:00 mostlikely. Sometimes I might be a bit late, sometimes a bit early. But I'll update around 19:00 daily.
To give you an idea it's now 16:41 for me
mightilyoats
05-09-2007, 15:51
Great, we are on the same time zone... So, I guess we start at 19:00?
Well 30 minutes don't matter. Roles going out now. That also includes the game started notifications for townies.
It's day now, start voting, tho you might have to wait for a PM, can only send one every minute:
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 17:53
And we're just supposed to vote for someone, without any proof? No knowledge whatsoever?
And we're just supposed to vote for someone, without any proof? No knowledge whatsoever?
Yup
Like you have any proof if I post:
Johny has been killed (for example)
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 18:01
Vote:WarmasterHorus
Yup that's how it goes ~:)
We did well in a couple of the older games with getting enough discussion to find the mafia.
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 18:02
Fine with me :yes:
Vote:Sasaki
Because SK=guilty and because we need to start somewhere...
Edit: This should have been posted right before SK's post.
So, as not to say "he votes me, I vote him".
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 18:04
Your logic is flawed.
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 18:05
How so?
I'm just letting Ichigo have his say here...
Who knows, maybe I'm right.
mightilyoats
05-09-2007, 18:11
This seems like it is very random... But it is not! There's 2 mafia out of 12 -> 1/6.
So, vote: Andres because you are tied for the highest propability of being mafia with some other players.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 18:11
I posit that SK!=guilty, thus to say that SK=guilty is wrong.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 18:12
This seems like it is very random... But it is not! There's 2 mafia out of 12 -> 1/6.
So, vote: Andres because you are tied for the highest propability of being mafia with some other players.
Why do you say it is not random and then vote randomly?
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 18:18
Well, SK, because I learned a new word from you (posit), I'll Unvote:SK and
Vote:mightilyoats
You're right, it's pretty random up to now, but maybe you are the mafia, thus you would want to lynch a good, helpfull member, who (perhaps) isn't the mafia. With a therefore non-random vote.
Also, who do you think are the other members who may be mafiosi?
mightilyoats
05-09-2007, 18:25
Well, the following could be mafia:
Mightilyoats
Sasaki
Warmaster Horus
Andres
Omanes
Caius
TS
Roadkill
Pever
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
I would exclude myself, but that wouldn't be fair.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 18:26
I shall preemptively state that I will vote anyone who votes Warmaster Horus for "bandwagoning", it's called "getting information" so don't try and shut down discussion.
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 18:34
Bandwagoning? Me? When?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 18:40
Precisely.
mightilyoats
05-09-2007, 18:47
I must away... My random vote must stand for now.
I shall preemptively state that I will vote anyone who votes Warmaster Horus for "bandwagoning", it's called "getting information" so don't try and shut down discussion.
Can I vote him for another reason? He's French you know...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 19:14
Oh I'd thought your vote was the 2nd, wh.
unvote,Vote:mightilyoats
Why do you want your random vote to stand?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 19:14
Can I vote him for another reason? He's French you know...
That would be perfectly acceptable.
Nah, I'll go with TheStranger. He's Dutch, that's even worse
Vote : TheStranger
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-09-2007, 19:27
Vote: Warmaster Horus
Is your random voting a way of detracting the suspicion from yourself?
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 19:32
He's French you know...
I resent that... I'm Franco-Canadian if you want to know.
Although if that makes matters worse, I'll... I'll... I'll vote you! :furious3: :laugh4:
Is your random voting a way of detracting the suspicion from yourself?
Was SK's? Because his first vote was on me, with no true reason, as I see it.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-09-2007, 19:32
Why would you single out Warmaster Horus? He's voting way less randomly then some other people.
unvote,Vote:Omanes
Bah, still night in Kung Fu mafia.
Vote : Sasaki for being lazy :whip:
I'm Franco-Canadian if you want to know.
Although if that makes matters worse, I'll... I'll... I'll vote you!
But it does makes matters worse :shrug:
The Stranger
05-09-2007, 20:26
vote Andres, cuz its tradition he dies as soon as he is in a game... if i was mafia i'd murder him... but its also tradition im always a townie without a direction but still wins the game by some exquisite detective work but gets lynched by some crazy mob covetting for a heroes blood...
The Stranger
05-09-2007, 20:28
and here's my vote...
vote: Andres
i did not do this on purpose... but BKS stole my sig... i think he's not over the BQS thingy yet...
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-09-2007, 20:28
Well Warmaster Horus did start the random voting.
Warmaster Horus
05-09-2007, 21:21
Actually, Omanes is right. But that's all it was supposed to be. Random. First turn mostly is, unless the Mafiosi slip up.
covetting for a heroes blood...
I wouldn't call "pulling a Spartan" (masquerading as Mafia) particularly heroic, but we all have different opinions...
Andres, I'll refrain from voting you for now. It's too stupid a reason in my opinion.
RoadKill
05-09-2007, 22:53
Vote: Abstain for now, but milyoats spamminess is suspicious.
Vote:mightilyoats
His name is weird, I just dislike it...
pevergreen
05-10-2007, 01:35
MAFIA SCUM!
:laugh4: Lots of random votes going on now eh..
Sasaki Kojiro
05-10-2007, 01:47
Vote: Abstain for now, but milyoats spamminess is suspicious.
What spamminess?
mightilyoats
05-10-2007, 05:44
unvote; vote: abstain
Any vote now is random. Don't see why mine is such a sin. In fact, the only suspicious behaviour so far was Sasaki trying to defend Warmaster. (And I know that was only only start of game banter.)
Edit:
@Tran: He he, well I can't help that now can I?
Vote: Roadkill
Abstains get us nowhere, except to focus on those who cause them :grin2:
CountArach
05-10-2007, 08:12
Vote: Oats
That previous post is interesting. In post 37 Oats claimed that his random vote would stand, and in post 39 Sasaki challenged it. Now he changes it.
This is supicious because as soon as he was challenged on a vote, he changes it.
Andres, I'll refrain from voting you for now. It's too stupid a reason in my opinion.
Well, we are random voting. Are you afraid giving a stupid reason to your random vote would draw suspicion to you?
Vote: Abstain for now, but milyoats spamminess is suspicious.
Eh, so basically you are saying a player is suspicious in your opinion, but yet you don't vote him. Why not? :inquisitive:
CountArach
05-10-2007, 08:16
A question sapi - Why do you single out RoadKill? Why not Caius who posted nothing but an abstain. At least RoadKill found someone supicious, even if his logic was flawed.
He was the first (that I saw) to vote abstain...
mightilyoats
05-10-2007, 08:31
Vote: Oats
That previous post is interesting. In post 37 Oats claimed that his random vote would stand, and in post 39 Sasaki challenged it. Now he changes it.
This is supicious because as soon as he was challenged on a vote, he changes it.
What I meant was that the vote will stand for my real life night. I had to sleep you know. Now it is morning and I can continue. I am being bandwagoned here for posting a random vote at the very start. Something that everybody does. Shame on you :mean:
You guys have to read his first post
This seems like it is very random... But it is not! There's 2 mafia out of 12 -> 1/6.
So, vote: Andres because you are tied for the highest propability of being mafia with some other players.
together with this one:
Well, the following could be mafia:
Mightilyoats
Sasaki
Warmaster Horus
Andres
Omanes
Caius
TS
Roadkill
Pever
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
I would exclude myself, but that wouldn't be fair.
He basically voted me because the probability I being mafia was as high as the probability any one else being mafia. Which is pretty much the same as random voting. This remembers me of my first mini mafia when I got lynched for making a bad joke.
Oh, and Unvote : Sasaki ; the night phase finally ended :bow:
A question sapi - Why do you single out RoadKill? Why not Caius who posted nothing but an abstain. At least RoadKill found someone supicious, even if his logic was flawed.
Well sapi, I'd like to see some more explanation for this... Were you afraid to attack Caius because he is too easy a target for a lynch and you didn't want to look suspicious by picking him?
Vote : sapi
Okay
You post 20 minutes after I've already answered your question, knowing that an in depth answer is going to give the same result that I always say (and that you know, having been in my last two mafias): the first round is random.
Accept that and move on.
No one make a vote tally? Good job...
mightilyoats - 3 votes (Warmaster,Tran,CA)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
Sapi - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
Abstain - 3 votes (RoadKill,Caius,mightilyoats)
Okay
You post 20 minutes after I've already answered your question, knowing that an in depth answer is going to give the same result that I always say (and that you know, having been in my last two mafias): the first round is random.
Accept that and move on.
Well, this aggressive tone is rather usual for you, have seen it in CN II as well.
Unvote : sapi
MAFIA SCUM!
Lots of random votes going on now eh..
Anything more to say?
Vote : pevergreen
Well, this aggressive tone is rather usual for you, have seen it in CN II as well.
Unvote : sapi
Yeh, it is a bit unlike me :beam:
Blame it on real life - got a lot on atm ~:(
You have real life? I thought you are virtual... ~;p
And keep the vote tally, people...
mightilyoats - 3 votes (Warmaster,Tran,CA)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
Abstain - 3 votes (RoadKill,Caius,mightilyoats)
CountArach
05-10-2007, 09:14
Andres makes a good defence of Oats
Unvote:Oats
mightilyoats
05-10-2007, 09:16
...This remembers me of my first mini mafia when I got lynched for making a bad joke...
Well yes... That will teach me...
Edit: Vote tally (again)
mightilyoats - 2 votes (Warmaster,Tran)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
Abstain - 3 votes (RoadKill,Caius,mightilyoats)
CA has a point there, Andres' right...
Unvote: mightilyotas
mightilyoats - 1 vote (Warmaster)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
Abstain - 5 votes (RoadKill,Caius,mightilyoats,CA,Tran)
pevergreen, you are online, yet you are not participating in here. It's very unusual for you. And what's with all that private messaging?
:inquisitive:
Maybe he's finally getting around to sending out the Battle Royale PMs :laugh4:
Maybe he's finally getting around to sending out the Battle Royale PMs :laugh4:
Hmm...maybe, but do you notice that the Battle Royale thread is still on bottom...very suspicious strange indeed...
pevergreen
05-10-2007, 10:15
They are out. :laugh4:
Lauf at sapi. He knows why.
In response to the vote on me:
" "
Its random so far. Thats it.
Random Vote(someone on this page): sapi
Vote:Abstain
Why abstain? I mean, it's obvious we cannot have a clue at this phase of the game, but we have better odds when lynching somebody.
So, why abstain?
@Stig : what happens in case of a tie : longer voting period or no lynch?
Right now, we have:
mightilyoats - 1 vote (Warmaster)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
6 players are "in danger" of getting lynched.
I guess Stig will proceed into the night...
Let's see...
Correct vote tally:
mightilyoats - 1 vote (Warmaster)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
sapi - 1 vote (pevergreen)
Abstain - 5 votes (RoadKill,Caius,mightilyoats,CA,Tran)
Tran guessed wrong, we will continue till there's a majority (which generally means till someone breaks the tie). However if these are the results of the normal day:
Andres - 3
CA - 3
Sasaki - 1
Caius - 1
You will also still be able to vote Sasaki or Caius, not just Andres and CA
The Stranger
05-10-2007, 16:42
eh... im not getting it now,,, first andres and the rest had 1... and now suddenly 3...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-10-2007, 17:05
So we have to lynch one of Andres, CountA, Sasaki, and Caius?
I say Caius.
unvote,Vote:Caius
Sasaki Kojiro
05-10-2007, 17:09
Well the real thing was right there.
mightilyoats - 1 vote (Warmaster)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
sapi - 1 vote (pevergreen)
Which is a pity since I'd like to vote tran for that oh so hopeful "proceed into night" comment.
Omanes I remember being weird, I'll have to reread though.
Is it first to break the tie causes the lynch?
Nope, day ain't over till 19:00 which is 49 minutes from now
Sasaki Kojiro
05-10-2007, 17:23
unvote,Vote:Warmaster Horus then.
He is far to worried about being seen as suspicious.
Vote:Sasaki
Because SK=guilty and because we need to start somewhere...
Edit: This should have been posted right before SK's post.
So, as not to say "he votes me, I vote him".
It's the random voting stage and he feels the need to edit his post to say that was not an omgus vote.
Well, SK, because I learned a new word from you (posit), I'll Unvote:SK and
Vote:mightilyoats
You're right, it's pretty random up to now, but maybe you are the mafia, thus you would want to lynch a good, helpfull member, who (perhaps) isn't the mafia. With a therefore non-random vote.
Also, who do you think are the other members who may be mafiosi?
I don't buy his reason for unvoting me (perhaps he just didn't want the pressure) especially since the target he picked next was basically the opposite. He painstakingly explains the reasoning for his vote (which doesn't make sense) and the standard pro town discussion question is edited in (I think).
Bandwagoning? Me? When?
'nuff said.
Andres, I'll refrain from voting you for now. It's too stupid a reason in my opinion.
Making clear that he won't vote for stupid reasons, despite his last two votes.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-10-2007, 17:24
Also, rereading, there was one thing I didn't like about omanes but it is not enough for a lynch or major suspicion.
Warmaster Horus
05-10-2007, 18:04
'nuff said
Meaning, in this case?
And,
despite his last two votes
At that point, when I made that remark, I thought I'd fooled around long enough.
I didn't edit the question in. I edited the justification for the vote in. A justification which is badly explained, in fact. But I meant that he'd vote Andres non-randomly.
The non-omgus vote justification is because a bandwagon is started ever so quickly, especially in the first round of a mini-mafia.
"Warmaster Horus, you have been chosen to get killed," a man in a white suit and white helmet said, "BRING IN THE CAMELS!!!"
The gates opened and underneed them 20 camels came charging through the gates. Warmaster, the poor man, crying injustice and various obscenities, such as 'Dutch aren't better than Canadians!', jumped into the pit full of raving camels, who had also been unjustly refused food and water for many days... Needless to say, those bloody beasts trained by Mithrandir himself throwed themselves at poor Warmaster Horus, whose cries didn't go on for very long. He last recorded words where: "Vive la France". After that the camels took out their forks and knives and dinertime started.
mightilyoats - 1 vote (Warmaster)
Warmaster Horus - 2 vote (Omanes, Sasaki)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
sapi - 1 vote (pevergreen)
It's night now. This will last till 18:00 tomorrow (since I won't be in at 19:00 ~D )
Send yer PMs
Warmaster Horus
05-10-2007, 18:12
Can I still speak after I am dead?
And, here's the normal post one writes after one is lynched:
:furious3: :furious3: :furious3:
WHY? WHY? WHY?
You lynched a townie! :wall:
I didn't even have time to defend myself! GAH!
:furious3: :furious3: :furious3:
Now I know what it feels like to be lynched...
Good luck town! Find the mafia! :whip:
Can I still speak after I am dead?
Yup, sides you just did
Warmaster Horus
05-10-2007, 18:21
sides you just did
Yes, but that would have been to complain of my death. Which is what I did, as well.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-10-2007, 18:43
Omanes I remember being weird, I'll have to reread though.I've decided that it was time for more defensive tactics before playing Kung Fu - the role you gave me inspired that. My previous towniee tactics were a little bit noobish and hopeless.
Sorry for having a life.:shame:
The Stranger
05-10-2007, 19:33
so... whos lynched... im lost...
Warmaster Horus
05-10-2007, 19:33
ME! The guy who complained afterwards.
WM, WH, Warmaster, Horus can all be used to shorten my name.
I've decided that it was time for more defensive tactics before playing Kung Fu - the role you gave me inspired that. My previous towniee tactics were a little bit noobish and hopeless.
Folks, he's giving himself a reason to change his behaviour there.
The Stranger
05-10-2007, 19:38
so, you are lynched... i can't find the writeup anywhere..
Warmaster Horus
05-10-2007, 19:39
He said the write up would be edited in...
He said the write up would be edited in...
Aye, and I'm actually quite busy and can't think of anything funny atm, so it might have to wait an hour or two or three
Warmaster Horus
05-10-2007, 20:04
can't think of anything funny
I don't necesarily want anything funny...
Something more heroic I think...
"The poor man, crying injustice and various obscenities, such as 'Dutch aren't better than Canadians!', jumped into the pit full of raving Camels, who had also been unjustly refused food and water for many days... Needless to say, those bloody beasts trained by Mithrandir himself throwed themselves at poor Warmaster Horus, whose cries didn't go on for very long."
That would do, no? :laugh4:
I like it .... heh saves me some work :laugh4:
Will adjust it a bit tho
The Stranger
05-10-2007, 20:25
so.. what can u do during night...
RoadKill
05-10-2007, 21:42
Okay to those who are asking why i didn't vote for millyoats is becuase my suspicion to him is lacking. Therefore voting for someone who i'm not sure is a mafia would be pointless.
so.. what can u do during night...
The usual stuff
RoadKill
05-11-2007, 03:21
Um Stig, I would like to tell you i will not be active on friday and saturday, becuase I will be going camping for those two days.
mightilyoats
05-11-2007, 08:08
Same with me, I am not here over weekends. (I can only post at work)
Meaning, in this case?
And,
At that point, when I made that remark, I thought I'd fooled around long enough.
I didn't edit the question in. I edited the justification for the vote in. A justification which is badly explained, in fact. But I meant that he'd vote Andres non-randomly.
The non-omgus vote justification is because a bandwagon is started ever so quickly, especially in the first round of a mini-mafia.
I think Warmaster Horus was innocent. He could have easily created a tie by casting a vote.
Warmaster Horus
05-11-2007, 11:28
I think Warmaster Horus was innocent.
Thank you, kind sir, for expressing your doubts of my guilt.
But, anyway, even if I'd tied the game, I think I'd have been lynched.
I tie: you've got to choose between the two possibilities (me and whoever else)
I'd have been lynched for sure then, because it would have been suspicious to tie it. A true townie should sacrifice himself.
Nice write-up.
Nevermind, will have to wait until day.
Mightilyoats decided to left his work unfinished and went home earlier. After a quick "bye" to his stupid boss, he headed home for a well deserved week-end. While he was walking to his car, a fancy Mercedes, he noticed a black man dressed in clown standing beside it.
"Hi Mightilyoats", the clown said, "Nice car you have here. Can I have it?"
"I don't want to hear any joke from you!", Mightilyoats said.
"Really? Well, I can tell you that I'm not joking right now." said the clown. The black clown changed his voice and started to yell: "You think your boss is stupid? Mr. Stig doesn't like it when his employees take advantage of him. He doesn't like it at all! Give me your car keys!" shouted the clown as he pointed a yellow nine inch screwdriver towards Mightilyoats.
"LOL!" Mightilyoats laughed hard. He continued to laugh and rolled on the floor.
Once he got up and ended his laugh, he noticed that his car and the clown are no longer there. They both seemed to have disappeared. He was stunned for a while.
Honk! Honk!
Suddenly he heard the sound of his car's honk from behind. He quickly turned back and saw his car, with the clown behind the wheel. The black clown started to yell: "You read the Bible fool? You read it? You should read it! I do, you know. Here's my favorite passage: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee. " "
The angry clown started the engine. He drove the Mercedes fast towards Mightilyoats.
Instead of trying to avoid the car, Mightilyoats wetted his pants, thinking "How could he have taken my car key? This guys isn't really a clown, it's an acro..."
He never finished his thoughts...
His own car hit him and sent him flying 10 yards away.
The clown stopped the car. "Take this with you. Will be a nice read when you're in Hell", the black clown said, throwing a Bible to the dead body.
Lynched:
WM
Killed:
Mightilyoats
Alive:
Sasaki
Andres
Omanes
Caius
TS
Roadkill
Pever
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
Start voting, day will be over in 25 hours
Well the real thing was right there.
mightilyoats - 1 vote (Warmaster)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
sapi - 1 vote (pevergreen)
Which is a pity since I'd like to vote tran for that oh so hopeful "proceed into night" comment.
Omanes I remember being weird, I'll have to reread though.
Is it first to break the tie causes the lynch?
Nope, day ain't over till 19:00 which is 49 minutes from now
Well, Sasaki, why didn't you just vote Tran instead of Warmaster Horus? It would have created a tie between 6 players, all in danger off getting lynched, since one vote would have been enough... It would have been a nice opportunity to disscus, wouldn't it? And the option to lynch Warmaster (who is innocent imo, since he could have easily created a tie to avoid getting lynched and to have an extra chance to defend himself) would still have been open.
Your Warmaster vote contradicts the quoted statement.
Until further explanation:
Vote : Sasaki
Sasaki Kojiro
05-11-2007, 17:24
I thought Stig said we could only vote for the people who already had votes. In any case, I wasn't prepared to lynch tran just to vote him.
Stig, did you do that right up?
Warmaster Horus
05-11-2007, 17:35
2 mafia but one kill? Is that normal?
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-11-2007, 17:42
2 mafia but one kill? Is that normal?Either one mafioso is lazy or there only is only one kill or you are mafia.
mightilyoats
05-11-2007, 17:44
I feel so dead right now... And I have WET PANTS!! Why are my pants wet!? And smelly? And where's my car? And what are all these fires!? Why am I holding a BIBLE!?
Thanks mafia...
I know you lurk a lot...what's your thought?
Vote: Count Arach
I thought Stig said we could only vote for the people who already had votes. In any case, I wasn't prepared to lynch tran just to vote him.
Nope, you asked
Is it first to break the tie causes the lynch?
And Stig replied:
Nope
I don't believe you misinterpreted that. Besides, by voting Tran, he wouldn't have been lynched, it would have only created a tie = longer day time = more discussion.
@Stig: how many kills do the mafia get when 2 of them are alive? And how many if only one remains?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-11-2007, 20:47
Yes we had to lynch one of those people. Because either there would be a tie and we would be restricted to them, or one of them would acquire two votes and would be lynched. The day was almost over.
We don't know for sure whether WH was innocent either. He could have created a tie but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been lynched. He also only posted 3 minutes before day ended.
I posted lots of evidence on warmaster horus. Why do you say my voting him is inconsistant with my suspicion of tran?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-11-2007, 20:48
@Andres: What did you think of WH yesterday? What do you think of tran?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-11-2007, 20:51
Also what do you think of pevergreen. You voted him and asked him about private messaging. Has he answered your suspicions?
Warmaster Horus
05-11-2007, 21:40
He could have created a tie but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been lynched
I explained that. Creating a tie would have been worse for me. Didn't you break a tie in CN II, and were subsequently lynched, in part because of that?
He also only posted 3 minutes before day ended
That's got nothing to do with anything, does it? I posted 3 minutes before the end, because that's when I saw the accumulated "evidence" against me.
Omanes, I don't believe you answered my question from page two, in answer to:
Is your random voting a way of detracting the suspicion from yourself? I asked:
Was SK's? Because his first vote was on me, with no true reason, as I see it.
Also, you said:
Well Warmaster Horus did start the random voting.
So, you'd have voted someone else, had he started the random voting, right?
And I do believe Sasaki voted before me. I wanted to vote him, but he voted me before I voted him.
So, basically, SK started the random voting.
CountArach
05-11-2007, 22:18
A summary of the game so far:
23 – Warmaster asks if we are supposed to vote with no evidence
24 – Stig points out that we wouldn’t have any proof, even if kills went first
25 – Sasaki votes Warmaster
26 – Warmaster votes Sasaki because Sasaki=Guilty, but claims it is not OMGUS
27 – Sasaki points out that his logic is flawed
28 – Warmaster says he was making up for Ichigo
29 – Oats votes Andres by saying that he has the same chance of being a mafia as anyone else
30 – Sasaki says he is not guilty
31 – Sasaki asks why Oats said his vote was not random, and then voted randomly
32 – Warmaster unvotes Sasaki and votes Oats for trying to lynch a member who is generally helpful
33 – Oats points out that anyone, including himself, is mafia
34 – Sasaki claims he will vote anyone who votes for Warmaster for bandwagoning
35 – Warmaster asks when he was bandwagoning
36 – Sasaki says “precisely”
37 – Oats says he has to go and that his random vote will stand
38 – Andres wants to vote Warmaster for being French, but doesn’t
39 – Sasaki unvotes Warmaster and votes Oats for wanting his random vote to stand
40 – Sasaki accepts Andres excuse
41 – Andres votes TS for being Dutch
42 – Omanes votes Warmaster for random voting
43 – Warmaster points out that Sasaki was doing the same
44 – Sasaki votes Omanes for singling out Warmaster
45 – Andres votes Sasaki for not updating Kung Fu Mafia
47 – TS posts a completely incomprehensible post, that basically says that it is tradition for Andres to be killed first
48 – TS votes Andres because he can’t edit his post
49 – Omanes explains that Warmaster did start the random voting
50 – Warmaster says he will not vote Andres yet
51 – RoadKill abstains but says that Oats spamming is suspicious
52 – Caius Abstains
53 – Tran random votes Oats
54 – pever points out that there are a lot of random votes so far
55 – Sasaki asks what spamming RoadKill was referring to in post 51
56 – Oats unvotes and Abstains and mentions that Sasaki defending Warmaster is suspicious.
57 – sapi votes RoadKill for Abstaining
58 – I vote Oats for changing his vote when challenged.
59 – Andres questions why RoadKill found someone suspicious in 51, but didn’t vote him.
60 – I question sapi why he picked out RoadKill in 57
61 – sapi explains that RoadKill was the first to abstain
62 – Oats answers my question in 58 by saying that his vote would stand for the night.
63 – Andres defends Oats’ very early posts. He then unvotes Sasaki and votes sapi for not giving a good enough explanation in post 61
64 – sapi explains that he believes the first round is always random, and as such does not give a better explanation.
65 – Tran makes a vote tally, showing Oats way out front.
66 – Andres recognises sapi’s tone in post 64, so unvotes him and votes pever for lurking
69 – I unvote Oats because of Andres’ defence in 63
71 – Tran agrees with me. FoS: Tran – See questions
72 – Andres sees pever online and PMing, and asks what it is about
73 – sapi thinks it is him getting the Battle Royale PMs out
75 – pever did indeed send out the Battle Royale PMs, then randomly votes sapi.
76 – Andres asks Caius why he has only abstained so far
78 – Stig says we vote until there is a majority, but uses an example which people misinterpret
79 – TS misinterprets, but posts nothing helpful
80 – Sasaki unvotes and votes Caius due to misinterpreting Stig’s post
81 – Stig says he was using an example
83 – Stig says there is 49 minutes until nighttime
84 – Sasaki breaks the tie by voting Warmaster, using some pretty decent evidence
86 – Warmaster defends himself
87 – Warmaster is killed by Stig
91 – Omanes defends himself from an earlier post by saying he has been more defensive recently
92 – Caius defends all allegations against him by saying he has a life.
94 – Warmaster points out that Omanes was giving an excuse for changing his posting style
100 – TS asks what people can do during the night. I think this is just a cover for a real role. FoS: TS
101 – RoadKill says he is not suspicious of Oats
103 – RoadKill excuses himself for the weekend
104 – Oats does too
105 – Andres says he thinks Warmaster was innocent. I must say I am inclined to agree with him.
107 – Andres says something, then edits it out
108 – Stig kills Oats. It is interesting hat there is only 1 kill.
109 – Andres asks why Sasaki didn’t vote for Tran, creating a 6 way tie earlier.
110 – Sasaki says he was only willing to vote Tran, not lynch him. In addition he thought he could only vote for people who already had votes.
111 – Warmaster asks if there is usually only one kill
112 – Omanes points out that Warmaster could be mafia, or that there is only 1 kill. I agree with his thoughts here.
114 – Tran votes me for lurking, I expect an unvote after this summary…
115 – Andres keeps attacking Sasaki for not voting for Tran
116 – Sasaki points out that he had plenty of evidence
117 – Sasaki asks Andres what he thought of Warmaster yesterday
118 – Then asks what he thinks of pever
119 – Warmaster keeps attacking Sasaki
Questions:
1 – Tran – Why were you so eagre to follow what I had said in posts 69 and 71? Was it because you were jumping off a failing bandwagon?
2 – pever – Why so lurktastic? Kind of unlike you… In addition, why did you randomly vote for sapi in post 75, when you could easily have used the 74 posts worth of evidence we already had?
3 – Caius – What are your thoughts on the game so far?
4 – The_Stranger – You have been extraordinarily unhelpful. Why shouldn’t we lynch you? You seem to have been posting just enough to avoid being hit by the WoG.
Vote: The_Stranger
Stig, did you do that right up?
At the moment you asked the day wasn't over yet.
When it is over and there is a tie you can vote for anyone, not just the two in the tie. But when the tie gets broken it's over. I don't extend till there's no tie anymore, I extend till the tie is gone.
@Stig: how many kills do the mafia get when 2 of them are alive? And how many if only one remains?
They always have 1 kill only. Having 2 kills unbalances the game too much imo. Goes too quick. After 3 nights the mafia could have been able to win in that case.
Warmaster Horus
05-11-2007, 22:55
And another reason towards my innocence!
CA, I must disagree with your summary of post 119 - I didn't just attack SK, I also questionned Omanes.
Yes we had to lynch one of those people. Because either there would be a tie and we would be restricted to them, or one of them would acquire two votes and would be lynched. The day was almost over.
We don't know for sure whether WH was innocent either. He could have created a tie but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been lynched. He also only posted 3 minutes before day ended.
I posted lots of evidence on warmaster horus. Why do you say my voting him is inconsistant with my suspicion of tran?
I just found it odd you first were willing to vote Tran and than voted Warmaster Horus. I didn't really pay attention to your case against him, but by voting Warmaster, you put him in the lead (by a very small margin I must admit) about 40 minutes before the end of the day leading to his lynch, why a vote for Tran would have created a tie leading to more discussion. Maybe I'm mistaken, but you are always in favor off having as much discussion as possible, which would have been created with a tie, especially a 6-way tie where half of the crowd is in danger of getting lynched. That's why your WH vote got my attention.
As for pever : apparantly, according to sapi, he did send out pm's for his Org Battle Royale game (in which I don't participate), which probably explains the private messaging. But he's pretty absent in this game. It's very unusual for him.
As for Tran and Warmaster, I'll have to go through the tread once more.
Edit: This should have been posted right before SK's post.
So, as not to say "he votes me, I vote him".
Well, I think he makes his biggest "mistake" here. He defends himself before he gets attacked.
But, from what I have seen in previous games, Warmaster always tries to look innocent and always seems a bit frightened to come over as scummy. In those previous games, he was a townie...
You're right, it's pretty random up to now, but maybe you are the mafia, thus you would want to lynch a good, helpfull member, who (perhaps) isn't the mafia. With a therefore non-random vote.
Also, who do you think are the other members who may be mafiosi?
He votes Mithilyoats because he misinterpreted Mightyl's reasoning. Oats voted randomly, but was misunderstood. WH voted Oats for more or less the same reason as CA voted him. As for the question, I didn't see the original post, so I cannot judge if he added the "standard question" as you called it, or if it was just an edit for grammar and/or spelling or something else.
Bandwagoning? Me? When?
Here he is just joking imo. Don't see what's suspicious about that.
Then, Omanes asks him if his random voting was a way of detracting the suspicion from himself, which is an odd question to say the least. How did Omanes expected players to vote in the first round when there are no, zero, nadda, 0,0 clues? And I bolded that question, because I'd like to see an answer from Omanes. Warmaster responds:
Was SK's? Because his first vote was on me, with no true reason, as I see it.
Which is a very good question imo.
Actually, Omanes is right. But that's all it was supposed to be. Random. First turn mostly is, unless the Mafiosi slip up.
Here he just states something we all know. Don't know why he posted that.
I must say Sasaki, my personal opinion about your case is that it is meager. The only "evidence" I see, is the edit in the first quote. On the other hand, if he posted and saw your vote on him and didn't want his vote on you to come over as retaliation (wtf is "omgus"?), why not deleting the whole thing and cast a random vote on somebody else, without having to explain?
While going over the thread, I noticed this:
So we have to lynch one of Andres, CountA, Sasaki, and Caius?
I say Caius.
unvote,Vote:Caius
You misinterpreted Stig's post and voted Caius, breaking a tie and picking an easy target. Why did you think at the time of that post that Caius had to die?
Going to check the thread on Tran now.
OOC: Who do I send the bill to?
Vote:mightilyoats
His name is weird, I just dislike it...
At first sight a random vote, like there were so many in round 1. On second thoughts, oats was feeling some pressure at that time. He had one vote on his name from Warmaster, and got voted by you (but when Tran voted you already unvoted and voted Omanes). So he basically votes the most popular target at that time, giving no reason whatsoever.
No one make a vote tally? Good job...
mightilyoats - 3 votes (Warmaster,Tran,CA)
Omanes - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Warmaster Horus - 1 vote (Omanes)
Andres - 1 vote (The Stranger)
Sapi - 1 vote (Andres)
Roadkill - 1 vote (sapi)
Abstain - 3 votes (RoadKill,Caius,mightilyoats)
He makes a tally. He does the same in #68, making a joke about sapi.
Than he comes with this:
CA has a point there, Andres' right...
Unvote: mightilyotas
He unvotes and flatters both CA and me. Bah. I cannot be flattered, only bribed with cash. It seems like he doesn't want to go 'against the flow'. Would have been less suspicious just to stick to his vote.
Hmm...maybe, but do you notice that the Battle Royale thread is still on bottom...very suspicious strange indeed...
Here he basically says the battle royal game being on the bottom is proof that pever is not sending out battle royale pm's. But I joined the first Battle Royale game (GH's version) and IIRC there is never much activity in the public thread of such a game, so the particular thread being on the bottom doesn't mean a thing. Besides, pever did post later on in that thread to say he had sent his pm's. Tran participates in that game, so he should know how it works, shouldn't he? :inquisitive:
Later on, I ask Stig what happens in case of a tally. Tran responds:
I guess Stig will proceed into the night...
He guesses or he hopes? Nah, can't go after him for that post.
I know you lurk a lot...what's your thought?
Vote: Count Arach
Indeed, CA usually goes half-lurking through mafia games. But in round 1 he posted frequently. And CA isn't itching me at all. Don't know what to think about that vote.
All in all, Tran would have been a better candidate than Warmaster imo. So, Sasaki, why didn't you vote Tran instead of Warmaster, creating a tie, more discussion and let the town make a decision?
I'll stick to my vote for you Sasaki, until a) you explain why you did not create a tie by voting for instance Tran, who was a good lynch candidate b) You misinterpreted Stig's post and you were convinced the tie was between you, me, CA and Caius. Why did Caius have to die in your opinion?
Explain, convince and I'll probably switch to Tran who needs to give a decent explanation.
Oh, and Omanes, I still want an answer to my question: How did you expect players to vote in the first round when there are no, zero, nadda, 0,0 clues?. Don't you start thinking you will fly under the radar.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-12-2007, 00:38
At the moment you asked the day wasn't over yet.
When it is over and there is a tie you can vote for anyone, not just the two in the tie. But when the tie gets broken it's over. I don't extend till there's no tie anymore, I extend till the tie is gone.
I wanted to know if you wrote the kill description, sorry I meant "write" not "right".
Sasaki Kojiro
05-12-2007, 00:43
I just found it odd you first were willing to vote Tran and than voted Warmaster Horus. I didn't really pay attention to your case against him, but by voting Warmaster, you put him in the lead (by a very small margin I must admit) about 40 minutes before the end of the day leading to his lynch, why a vote for Tran would have created a tie leading to more discussion. Maybe I'm mistaken, but you are always in favor off having as much discussion as possible, which would have been created with a tie, especially a 6-way tie where half of the crowd is in danger of getting lynched. That's why your WH vote got my attention.
As for pever : apparantly, according to sapi, he did send out pm's for his Org Battle Royale game (in which I don't participate), which probably explains the private messaging. But he's pretty absent in this game. It's very unusual for him.
As for Tran and Warmaster, I'll have to go through the tread once more.
Discussion is good and all, but I'd made up my mind and saw I was in a position to decide the lynch and in my estimation warmaster was suspicious enough to justify it.
I agree on pever btw. unvote,Vote:pever post more.
You misinterpreted Stig's post and voted Caius, breaking a tie and picking an easy target. Why did you think at the time of that post that Caius had to die?
From those 4 I preferred a lynching of caius. He doesn't post much, is really suspicious as town, and makes good mafia as I know from shallowcreek. The others play more transparently.
Tran was a good case, but I thought we had to lynch one from the list and dismissed him. Warmaster was a good choice as well.
From those 4 I preferred a lynching of caius. He doesn't post much, is really suspicious as town, and makes good mafia as I know from shallowcreek. The others play more transparently
LOL Sasaki,
I was going to be discovered sooner or later, I just didnt had time.I had to go, and the town was going to lynch pever, who was the Don.
Vote:Abstain
I dont have any clue whats going on
pevergreen
05-12-2007, 01:57
Posting has been small because:
Thusday was soccer training then battle royale
Friday was clan battle all night.
Questions:
1 – Tran – Why were you so eagre to follow what I had said in posts 69 and 71? Was it because you were jumping off a failing bandwagon?
Like I said it's because you (and from) Andres stated here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1535921&postcount=63). Beside, it's clear that if my vote stayed, mightyloats will definitely be lynched and no further discussion can take place.
He unvotes and flatters both CA and me. Bah. I cannot be flattered, only bribed with cash. It seems like he doesn't want to go 'against the flow'. Would have been less suspicious just to stick to his vote.
Same reason.
Here he basically says the battle royal game being on the bottom is proof that pever is not sending out battle royale pm's. But I joined the first Battle Royale game (GH's version) and IIRC there is never much activity in the public thread of such a game, so the particular thread being on the bottom doesn't mean a thing. Besides, pever did post later on in that thread to say he had sent his pm's. Tran participates in that game, so he should know how it works, shouldn't he? :inquisitive:
Do you?
He guesses or he hopes? Nah, can't go after him for that post.
What did I say...? ~:rolleyes:
All in all, Tran would have been a better candidate than Warmaster imo.
How am I a "better candidate"? Because of what I did in first day, which is obviously just throwing at each others random votes?
LOL Sasaki,
I was going to be discovered sooner or later, I just didnt had time.I had to go, and the town was going to lynch pever, who was the Don.
Vote:Abstain
I dont have any clue whats going on
You ARE lurking a lot, much more than CA did, it's a fact. And now trying to come up with such an excuse to avoid getting lynched. Also, since CA has posted a fair respond previously:
Unvote, vote: Caius
Vote tally:
Caius - 1 vote (Tran)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Sasaki - 1 vote (Andres)
The_Stranger - 1 vote (CountArach)
Abstain - 1 vote (Caius)
You ARE lurking a lot, much more than CA did, it's a fact. And now trying to come up with such an excuse to avoid getting lynched. Also, since CA has posted a fair respond previously:
Unvote, vote: Caius
Misunderstood my post, it was for Sasaki.It was other game.
Also, I had a lot of school work.This year teachers like give homework.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-12-2007, 07:18
Oh, and Omanes, I still want an answer to my question: How did you expect players to vote in the first round when there are no, zero, nadda, 0,0 clues?. Don't you start thinking you will fly under the radar.Fair point :shame:
Discussion is good and all, but I'd made up my mind and saw I was in a position to decide the lynch and in my estimation warmaster was suspicious enough to justify it.
Well, I didn't made up my mind yet. A tie would have given the possibility to question Tran, Omanes and pevergreen on their behavior a bit more thoroughly. So, we disagree on that.
From those 4 I preferred a lynching of caius. He doesn't post much, is really suspicious as town, and makes good mafia as I know from shallowcreek. The others play more transparently.
Tran was a good case, but I thought we had to lynch one from the list and dismissed him. Warmaster was a good choice as well.
If that's the reasoning, than your Caius vote is understandable.
I'm having difficulties to believe you truly thought we had to lynch one from the list since Stig made it pretty clear the day wasn't over yet. It wasn't that hard to understand you could have still voted Tran to create a tie. And I don't think Warmaster was a good choice as I stated before.
I'll keep an eye on you, but Omanes, Tran and pevergreen are better candidates for now.
Unvote : Sasaki
Beside, it's clear that if my vote stayed, mightyloats will definitely be lynched and no further discussion can take place.
How is that? At that stage, everything was still possible. Your vote on Oats would have been the only vote.
Do you?
Eh. What do you mean? Battle Royale being "on the bottom" wasn't an indication of pever not being sending out PM's...
How am I a "better candidate"?
General posting style. Guts feeling. And the arguments I made in favor of Warmaster Horus combined with my feelings about you made you a better 1st round lynch candidate in my opinion.
Oh, and besides defending yourself, do you have any insights in the game thus far? Who are your suspects? Who should be lynched in your opinion. For instance, what do you think about Omanes, Sasaki, pever and Caius?
Posting has been small because:
Thusday was soccer training then battle royale
Friday was clan battle all night.
You didn't post anything "wrong" for now, but that's just because you didn't post anything useful at all. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but if this unusual behaviour continues, you'll be number 1 on my suspects list.
Fair point :shame:
Come on, you can do better than that. You do not only have to respond in defense, you also have to read the thread, give your views and cast a vote.
You need a little bit pressure to be a helpful townie?
Vote : Omanes
And just a message for pever and Tran: votes are quickly changed, so you better start analyzing the thread and give your opinion.
CountArach
05-12-2007, 10:59
Posting has been small because:
Thusday was soccer training then battle royale
Friday was clan battle all night.
You realise you could have just read the first few posts before this one and posted something useful, don't you?
@Sasaki, no the mafia will need to do their own write ups ... if they don't do one I will still make one, but their own descriptions go first
General posting style
What posting style? Explain please :dizzy2:
...Guts feeling...combined with my feelings about you made you a better 1st round lynch candidate in my opinion.
So all these suspicion is because of your...feeling? Because your feeling told you that I am suspicious and very likely to be guilty. Let me ask, what if your feeling said Warmaster or someone else is guilty? Or perhaps...Stig. Will you accuse them too because of your feeling? :inquisitive:
You didn't post anything "wrong" for now, but that's just because you didn't post anything useful at all. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but if this unusual behaviour continues, you'll be number 1 on my suspects list.
I didn't post anything wrong, yet I will be your no.1 suspect? Your logic is flaw at best... :inquisitive: ~:rolleyes:
give your views and cast a vote.
You need a little bit pressure to be a helpful townie?
I did, and for me, there's not much to be viewed right now...
Vote tally:
Caius - 1 vote (Tran)
pevergreen - 1 vote (Sasaki)
Omanes - 1 vote (Andres)
The_Stranger - 1 vote (CountArach)
Abstain - 1 vote (Caius)
Warmaster Horus
05-12-2007, 21:45
It's been 25 hours, no?
Since it has been 25 hours I take it we have a tie between:
Caius - 1 (Tran)
pevergreen - 1 (Sasaki)
Omanes - 1 (Andres)
The_Stranger - 1 (CountArach)
I'd go for pever or Omanes.
But I must resist to vote TS, which I would do just to annoy him :grin:
What do you guys think?
Yes it was 25 hours.
I thought I'd posted but was having problems with my internet connection and didn't check back in, only to miss that my post didn't come true.
Vote continues till there's a no tie
Since it has been 25 hours I take it we have a tie between:
Caius - 1 (Tran)
pevergreen - 1 (Sasaki)
Omanes - 1 (Andres)
The_Stranger - 1 (CountArach)
I'd go for pever or Omanes.
But I must resist to vote TS, which I would do just to annoy him :grin:
What do you guys think?
Well, I'm going to bed within half an hour. If nobody bothered to post when I log on tomorrow morning (which will be in about 10 or 11 hours), I'll unvote Omanes and random pick one of the other three.
Which would really be a disappointment for me since that would mean a lack of commitment and dedication from my fellow townies :thumbsdown:
CountArach
05-12-2007, 22:31
Unvote: TS
Vote: pevergreen
Mainly because he is either lurking to be a mafia, or he is lurking and being a bad townie.
pevergreen
05-12-2007, 22:49
Awwww.
If i only woke up ten minutes earlier.
Right, Pevergreen has been lynched. It's night now. Which will last for 21 hours (that's about when I get back home tomorrow). Write up will have to wait since I was planning on going to bed now.
CountArach
05-12-2007, 23:10
Gah! Sorry pever!
FoS: CA, Omanes
For breaking the tie, of course.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-13-2007, 08:01
I'd go for pever or Omanes. May I ask why you selected pevergreen?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-13-2007, 08:03
how did omanes break the tie?
Gah :wall:
Was skimming and didn't realise it was a 4 instead of a 2 way tie (thought Omanes was the only one to benefit)
My mistake :bow:
May I ask why you selected pevergreen?
You can ask and you will find an answer by reading the thread. While you are at it, you'll find some questions for you as well.
No need to answer them tonight. But I do like to see some response at the beginning of the next day.
The Stranger
05-13-2007, 14:39
eh... yeah... sorry for my 2 day absence... i was on holiday in paris...
but im back...
its night now... am i right?
RoadKill
05-13-2007, 15:16
Vote:Abstain I need to catch on to what is going on right now.
It's night m8
but welcome back
RoadKill
05-13-2007, 15:21
My bad sory.
The Stranger
05-13-2007, 15:23
It's night m8
but welcome back
Als dat voor mij was, Dankjewel :bow:
It's a very dark and creepy night. RoadKill had just finished watching a horror movie. It's the first time ever he watched a horror movie, and it made him very scared. He decided to wash his face in the bathroom to ease his mind, he then looked at the window when suddenly he saw something black flying behind.
"Whooaaa...!!!" he screamed...but then he noticed that flying thing was just a cockroach.
"Stupid cockroach!" he said. His nerve eased for a while.
RoadKill then went into the bedroom. There, he spotted a shadowy figure passing from the window. "Who's there??!" he screamed in panic. His adrenaline pumped up, and his heartbeat increased. He was frightened, unsure whether he just saw a ghost, or perhaps a "human trespasser". He decided to pick both his handgun and his fathers' Holy Bible, then immediately rushed outside the house.
RoadKill opened the front door, and immediately he saw the very same figure he spotted moments ago.
He was stunned and speechless.
"Excuse me, are you RoadKill?" asked the shadowy figure.
"Yo...You! Wha...what are...you doing here!??" RoadKill shouted.
"Is this how you treat your guests?" the shadowy figure asked again, calmly.
"You...you acted very much like...that ghost from the movie that I just watched!!!" RoadKill became even more panic. "I shall make you leave!! I shall read the Bible and send you away!!" he threatened. RoadKill then immediately opened his Bible and read it with gasp, shaken: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he..."
"Hey man, what's that? That's my line! Shut up! It doesn't fit the story!"
Roadkill stopped reading his Bible and looked at the shadowy figure.
"You're still here!! How...how can...?"
"Yes...Of course. That's because I am NOT a ghost!" said the figure.
"But..how..."
"Hand that Bible over to me, you fool."
The shadowy figure took the Bible from Roadkill.
"You know what? This is your fathers' Bible. The way your dad looked at it, this Bible was your birthright. He'd be damned if any slopes gonna put their greasy yellow hands on his boy's birthright, so he hid it, in the one place he knew he could hide something: his ass. Five long years, he wore this Bible up his ass. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the Bible. I hid this uncomfortable book up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I am here because I want revenge! Do you know how it feels like? This Bible up there for two years?"
RoadKill then spotted a Cross on the figure's left hand.
"You...have a Cross! You are the Keeper of my family's birthright!"
All of the sudden the shadow made a quick move.
"Yes, and now I have your handgun too..." the shadowy figure then pointed RoadKill's handgun toward his head, and pull the trigger. Ending RoadKill's life.
"I hope this Bible will make sure your journey into the after-life goes smooth, so that your spirit won't linger here. God bless your Soul..." the figure then walked out of the house, stepped into his car and left.
Three blocks further on the car stopped and Andres stepped out.
"Another succesfull kill, things are going well, soon this little town will be mine."
"Not so fast you crazy Belgian!"
"What? Who are you?"
"Your worst fate, prepare to die scum. I saw you killing poor Oats yesterday, and now I was too late to stop you from killing Roadkill, but here is where your killing stops."
The unknown figure rose his hand holding a gun and shot once, swiftly between the eyes.
"I've done all I could, but I did the right thing, goodbye Andres."
Lynched:
WM
Pever
Killed:
Mightilyoats
Roadkill
Andres
Alive:
Sasaki
Omanes
Caius
TS
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
Vote now, day ends in 23 hours
Sasaki Kojiro
05-13-2007, 21:12
Vote:CountArach
Out of curiosity. Pending reread.
Warmaster Horus
05-13-2007, 21:16
"Another succesfull kill, things are going well, soon this little town will be mine."
Andres was mafia?
So, two kills. One mafia, one pro-town, vigilante type.
Omanes, if you could please answer the various questions directed at you, that would help the town.
If he doesn't, I say lynch him.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-13-2007, 21:54
unvote
need to think about this. I would still like to know why you selected pever from the list, just for reference.
RoadKill
05-13-2007, 21:55
Wow, a bible up my bum for two years...
Andres was mafia?
No I was not.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-13-2007, 22:17
Stig said the mafia write the kills. The first kill is in the same style as yesterdays so we can assume that is the mafia.
The 2nd kill was presumably a vig, but the part that claims andres was mafia was probably written by the killer. I've gotten nothing but pro-town vibes from Andres.
I've gotten nothing but pro-town vibes from Andres.
Me too :yes:
"I've done all I could, but I did the right thing, goodbye Andres."
Apparently, our vigilante wasn't too sure about himself. Being killed by a vigilante does not mean I am guilty. Remember Warmaster Horus who killed Xehh II in CNII?
You guys should question pevergreen, Omanes and Tran. Right now, because of his unusual lack of participation, I'd go for pevergreen. The second mafioso is either Tran or Omanes.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-13-2007, 23:19
...pevergreen got lynched.
:wall:
This what happens when your father asks you to taste his new bottle of 18-year old Irish whiskey (Jameson).
Omanes and Tran are next (if they are still alive that is :embarassed: )
pevergreen
05-14-2007, 01:06
^^ Me = innocent.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-14-2007, 08:12
Vote: Tran
Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2007, 08:15
Well that's interesting. Andres says "look at omanes and tran" and omane's otes tran with no reason given.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-14-2007, 08:18
Well that's interesting. Andres says "look at omanes and tran" and omane's otes tran with no reason given.I trust Andres to a certain extent, he is the permanent townie person. I feel that, since I know he is wrong about me, that Tran must be somebody to watch.
I suggest you guys lynch Omanes first.
Evasive behavior, ignoring questions, no opinion on the game whatsoever, no comments, no suspects, etc, etc...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2007, 08:21
I want to hear more from countArach and sapi.
Vote: Tran
Hello...do you even have a reason to vote for me? Other than..."because Andres said so"? :inquisitive:
EDIT: Also Andres or anyone else...how can you be so sure that it was vigilante who wrote the kill and he wasn't so sure? You don't know that for sure, maybe Stig did the write-up? Or maybe Andres is the true scum, trying to clear his name...?
Hello...do you even have a reason to vote for me? Other than..."because Andres said so"? :inquisitive:
Andres also said to vote Omanes :whip:
Andres the Mafia? :rolleyes:
Vote: Omanes
If this gets him to say a single word of substance, it'll be better than what we've got now...
Warmaster Horus
05-14-2007, 10:48
Indeed, Omanes hasn't said anything useful, except his so called "new tactic", being more defensive, in preparation of KFM, I believe he said. However, KFM was already playing at the beginning.
Andres, I was only saying that because of what the write-up said. I get good vibes from you as well, and the fact that you were killed by a vigilante kind of role doesn't make you a mafia, but it would surprise me that Stig let an error (if it was one) be made in the write-ups. The error being false mafia claim.
As I said, lynch Omanes. He'd already have three votes if Andres and me were still alive, I think...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2007, 11:10
Vote:The Stranger
I'm not so convinced that Omanes or Tran are the play for today. Certainly they bear looking at.
The stranger is suffering from lurkiness. I'm also getting a weird vibe from count arach unvote,vote:countarach
I don't like his "lynch pever" then "gah! sorry pevergreen" posting bit. Also, his long summary is something I can see him doing in an attempt to appear pro town when he's mafia.
mightilyoats
05-14-2007, 12:21
Just to chip in here... Correct me if I am wrong. The mafia writes the kills. I have been thinking of the kill on me. There are alot of references to others posts I have made.
(Sorry for not quoting, I am not sure how to effectively quote from more than one place)
The first reference that I noticed:
... "I don't want to hear any joke from you!", Mightilyoats said. ...
This refers to the bad joke I made as my first ever post in a mafia game. The murderer is also a clown, so...
Next:
... Mr. Stig doesn't like it when his employees take advantage of him. ...
Refering to a statement I made about only posting while at work.
So, think I can assume that the murderer looked at previous posts I made before creating the write-up.
Then there are references to a post I made in another forum. (The Backroom actually). I won't quote from the Backroom, but it should be easy to find. I made one post that day (a while before the kill) in the "Self critisism" thread.
I may be wrong entirely, this could be coincedence. Ask yourself questions like: "why is the clown refered to as a black clown?" etc. I believe that who ever did the write up has read my post in the back room. I also say that the guilty mafioso is a member of the backroom.
There is not much to go on, since no other players in this game posted in that thread. I did notice however, in another thread in the backroom, that Sasaki contended one of my posts. Sorry about that Sasaki. Were you trying to get revenge? Are you pretending to not know who did the write-up?
I think I must clear up that I did the second write up. The first one was delivered to me by the mafia. Tho I must also say that it's just a story and I'm not giving anything away. I'm not being cryptic.
The Stranger
05-14-2007, 15:54
Sasaki.. who are you voting for.. me or CA
anyways... its good Andres is killed whatever role he has... tradition is not something that should be broken... however... I had nothing to do with it...
Sasaki.. who are you voting for.. me or CA
anyways... its good Andres is killed whatever role he has... tradition is not something that should be broken... however... I had nothing to do with it...
Does that mean you killed me in Kung Fu mafia as well?
The Stranger
05-14-2007, 16:21
no only in CDCT
Warmaster Horus
05-14-2007, 20:11
23 hours are up, and it's ridiculous.
The amount of participation this turn... I can summarize it quickly: Andres says vote Omanes or Tran, Omanes votes Tran, town questions Omanes, he doesn't help, sapi votes Omanes, and that's it basically.
COME ON!:whip: :whip: :whip:
I quite agree, I sneakely tried to extend the voting period but I guess it didn't work, well it's a draw now and you can still vote for anyone. However once the draw is gone the game is over
Sasaki
Omanes
Caius
TS
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
CA and Caius will have to wake up, PMs going out to them
CA and Caius will have to wake up, PMs going out to them
Hmm...Lazy people!:bounce:
Vote:Omanes
Clearly a bandwagon attempt.Now, where is the smiley?
"Right Omanes due to the massive turn out at this days votings I'm going to have to give you some bad news." The White Helmeted man said.
"What, the turnout wasn't high enough?"
"No, bad news. BRING IN THE CAMEL-DUNG!!!"
The white-helmeted man fixed the only gasmask the two man head and slowly Omanes started to get influenced by the smell of the camel-droppings. Omanes got in a trance and took up a piece of wood, with it he started to hunt the flies that where flying around the droppings. Soon after he jumped into the dung, shouting:
"I'm free, I'm free."
He than fell asleep influenced by the smell, never to wake up again.
Lynched:
WM
Pever
Omanes
Killed:
Mightilyoats
Roadkill
Andres
Alive:
Sasaki
Caius
TS
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
It's night now. Send yer PMs, about 23 hours time (trying to bring this back to 1900)
Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2007, 20:27
huh, this is not going so well.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-14-2007, 20:36
What a terrible death. Anyhow, you guys lynched a plain old boring townie - you guys can rely on the fact that, despite how much I secretly, or now not-so-secretly, long for one, for a change, I never seem get a mafia role. I suggest you keep an eye out on Caius - I've had a look around and it's not like him to be inactive.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2007, 20:44
We have at most two lynches left. If there are two mafia alive then tomorrow is lynch or lose. If the vig kills another innocent then we lose tonight.
Let's try to get as much discussion tonight as we can.
Warmaster Horus
05-14-2007, 21:33
Tomorrow, you mean.
Hiding something SK?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2007, 21:58
No I mean tonight as in right now, the 24 hour periods just aren't cutting it.
Let's try to get as much discussion tonight as we can.
The last time I noticed you asking for discussion at night, was in Ichigo's game. You were mafia back then... :inquisitive:
If we have only one round left, tomorrow (next day phase) might be a good time for the detective to reveal. Known innocents are as important as a confirmed guilty player right now...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 01:12
I've always asked for it.
Stig said only one power role right?
There's one pro-town role ... but the person who has it can only claim it as in:
I'm the pro-townie
He can't say anything about his role.
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 07:47
I am the pro townie...
But I cant say more...
I am the pro townie...
But I cant say more...
Why did you kill me?
CountArach
05-15-2007, 09:04
Alright just to respond to Sasaki's question:
The reason that I posted "sorry pever" was because I posted that last vote only 18 minutes before his post. My main reason was because he was lurking, therefore I was lynching him for doing something he was about to pretty much stop. So I felt it necessary to post to say I was sorry.
Warmaster Horus
05-15-2007, 11:28
Sasaki, it's seems a written rule to me that talking during night is bad, for the true townies. In CN II, you encouraged it when you were dead.You had nothing to fear, from what I remember, because of that.
What I'll say, and I hope it's the last message before the end of the night, is watch out for SK... Maybe my first "in-game" post was right.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 14:20
Sasaki, it's seems a written rule to me that talking during night is bad, for the true townies. In CN II, you encouraged it when you were dead.You had nothing to fear, from what I remember, because of that.
What I'll say, and I hope it's the last message before the end of the night, is watch out for SK... Maybe my first "in-game" post was right.
It's not a written rule. I was a townie in CNII remember? Also you just told everyone to "look out for SK" which means you might try to convince the mafia to lynch me tomorrow which is exactly the kind of information the "no night talking" rule is supposed to avoid.
@The Stranger: I know you can't say anything about your role, but who do you find suspicious?
@The Stranger: I know you can't say anything about your role, but who do you find suspicious?
Me, apparently :inquisitive:
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 15:37
Alright just to respond to Sasaki's question:
The reason that I posted "sorry pever" was because I posted that last vote only 18 minutes before his post. My main reason was because he was lurking, therefore I was lynching him for doing something he was about to pretty much stop. So I felt it necessary to post to say I was sorry.
Ok I think I'm satisfied with CountA.
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 16:52
I'm not the one who killed you Andres...
My suspicion sofar are on Caius...
Warmaster Horus
05-15-2007, 16:59
Right, I'm sorry SK. I forgot you were townie in CNII.
It's an unwritten rule, if you prefer.
Watch out for SK means, in this case, be aware of him. Suspect him. Analyse each and every post he makes (okay that's exagerated). But not: he's dangerous to the mafia.
Anyway, everyone, forget what I said. It was the wrong kind of post.
And now, silence...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 17:00
I'm not the one who killed you Andres...
My suspicion sofar are on Caius...
Ok TS is one of my main suspects before but now I'm certain he's guilty.
There is only one pro town role. He claims he hasn't killed andres, but then who did? We know the other kill was mafia, that kill had to be vigilante.
TS is mafia.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 17:03
Also it makes no sense for a pro town role to claim during night time.
Warmaster Horus
05-15-2007, 17:05
^^ indeed.
And, SK, I didn't tell the mafia that you were dangerous there. You openly said it during night.
It makes no sense to claim during night, but it's even worse to accuse during night.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 17:09
It's not bad to accuse. Stig says there is only one pro town role. A pro town role had to have killed Andres. TS says he is the pro town role. He says he didn't kill andres. Therefore he is lying scum...
Also he wouldn't have claimed during the night unless he was mafia and knew he wouldn't be killed.
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 17:31
whatever... Sasaki, youre guilty yourself... youre awefully quick to blame me mafia... to get the spotlight of yourself?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 17:33
whatever... Sasaki, youre guilty yourself... youre awefully quick to blame me mafia... to get the spotlight of yourself?
:laugh4:
Was that intentional?
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 17:33
btw, if im mafia, but pro townie role killed andres, I cant have killed Andres... also when protownie roles can kill, i can also be killed...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 17:36
There will be a 3rd special role. A pro-town role. I won't reveal this role and the player with this role won't be allowed to give the specifics of this role. He's only allowed to claim it.
Did you forget?
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 18:54
no i did not forget... i just dont see why i had to have killed andres
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 19:18
Because there is only one pro townie role, and the mafia get one kill a night:
They always have 1 kill only. Having 2 kills unbalances the game too much imo. Goes too quick.
Warmaster Horus
05-15-2007, 19:21
That's where the smilie :logic: comes into play...
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 19:21
in that case... i was lying :P it was just a joke... anyways... ill leave for France tomorrow for 5 days so my replacement can work himself out of this mess... or the town lost becuase they lost yet another townie
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 19:23
btw Warmaster, its not that i didnt understand the logic, i just didnt read the rules
Warmaster Horus
05-15-2007, 19:28
I figured it was a joke. Although you should have said it immediately, I think.
I wasn't saying you didn't understand the logic, I just made a comment on it.
Whoever has the pro-townie role killed Andres. That's fact.
Also, shouldn't the kill be posted soon?
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 19:31
i wouldve said it immediatly... i just didnt figure Sasaki would believe it and PM me about it...
Warmaster Horus
05-15-2007, 19:34
Ah, well, mafia you know.
Gah, can't post now. Will post tonight when I come back from sporting
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 19:52
I figured it was a joke. Although you should have said it immediately, I think.
It's a funny joke, especially the part where he sent me pm's saying he investigated andres and caius and got a guilty on caius ~;)
It's a funny joke, especially the part where he sent me pm's saying he investigated andres and caius and got a guilty on caius ~;)
If he got a guilty on Caius, why the hell did he kill me? It doesn't make any sense.
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 21:04
because i didnt...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 21:05
You do have a guilty on caius though?
Warmaster Horus
05-15-2007, 21:06
Basically, everything The Stranger said after his "claim" is false. Because he was not saying the truth. He kept the joke going, by PM'ing SK.
So, our vigilante murderer is still at large. With the two mafiosi, of course.
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 21:06
no... im barely playing this game... i have a guilty noone...
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 21:08
also, i dont know if anyone catched the other part of what i said.
I will leave for france for 5 days tomorrow, so i cant play further... I know Sasaki reads it so he might want to consider getting me a replacement or WoG me for kungfu mafia
Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2007, 21:11
WH, I don't believe him. He fake claimed and was trying to convince us to lynch some people. That's far more likely to be mafia behavior than "just fooling around townie" especially since TS definitely didn't fool around in ctdc.
Also, the fact that he wasn't counterclaimed would indicate that the vigilante was dead. And we don't know that there are two mafia left, there have been 4 town chosen deaths the odds are pretty good there. You are making assumptions too quickly.
The Stranger
05-15-2007, 21:29
I didnt fool around in CDTC no... but it doesnt matter cuz im gone tomorrow...
Sasaki, also consider what you do with me in your game
You are making assumptions too quickly.
Or WH was scum after all and is trying to confuse us...
A man dressed in a bear suit looked at his watch.
"Time to pay a visit", he said to himself. "That's thirty minutes away. I'll be there in ten."
The man's name is The Stranger. He has been planning to visit the dentist who resided far outside the town for days. It was a relatively bright night compared with yesterday, nevertheless, the weather was very cold this night.
The Stranger tightened his jacket and then hopped onto his bicycle. It was very strange indeed to visit a dentist at midnight with a bicycle in a very cold weather, however stranger things will happen and The Stranger will found out soon.
Not even two blocks have been passed when The Stranger saw a white horse and a man dressed in a cowboy cloth, wearing a cowboy hat, and a gas mask.
"Hold!" the gas masked cowboy yelled at The Stranger.
"You must go back to your home, boy. Don't you know it's very dangerous at night?"
"Dangerous? I already got used to it." The Stranger asked.
"You know nothing about it. Now return to your home!" warned the cowboy.
"Never! Even a cowboy wanna-be like you shall not make me stop!" The Stranger quickly rode his bicycle and attempted to left the cowboy behind.
"No one can escape from me, little boy!" the cowboy quickly rode his horse and chases The Stranger.
The Stranger accelerated his bicycle speed, thinking the cowboy would eventually lost his trail. After a few minutes, he no longer heard the sound of horse footstep. He was confident that he was finally safe.
"I made it! Yees...."
BANG!!!
Suddenly The Stranger was thrown away for two metres and fell onto the ground. His head was bleeding severely.
"Modern cowboy don't use stupid rope or pistol anymore, boy."
"They use sniper rifle..." whispered the cowboy from distance. "And gas mask also..."
He then left with his white horse...
Lynched:
WM
Pever
Omanes
Killed:
Mightilyoats
Roadkill
Andres
TS
Alive:
Sasaki
Caius
Tran
Count Arach
Sapi
pevergreen
05-15-2007, 23:32
Did you modify the grammer of that kill Stig?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-16-2007, 00:45
lol, he was just joking around.
I suppose I'm back to CountArach for now. I'll have some questions for him and the others.
pevergreen
05-16-2007, 01:30
If he modifies nothing...the mafia is 80% likely to be
Caius
Tran
Out of those two it is Caius.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-16-2007, 01:40
Vote:CountArach
Pretty sure he's scum.
Tran accuses him of lurking and votes him in the beginning. He responds to this with what looks to me to be a concerted effort to appear to be pro town (very similar to something I did in shallowcreek). His summary however has barely any opinion in it which isn't actually that useful.
Then his suspicions:
1) Tran, for following "jumping off a failing wagon" when he himself had just done so. In fact, his reason for jumping on the wagon in the first place was bad, and Andres had made no good points about oats that addressed CA's concerns, despite what CountArach said. Look:
Vote: Oats
That previous post is interesting. In post 37 Oats claimed that his random vote would stand, and in post 39 Sasaki challenged it. Now he changes it.
This is supicious because as soon as he was challenged on a vote, he changes it.
Then andres' post says that Oats vote was random (which CA had agreed with) and that:
This remembers me of my first mini mafia when I got lynched for making a bad joke.
What does this mean exactly? Andres was lynched by bandwagon, his joke was voting for lurkers when the game had just started, that's not similar to what CountA thought was suspicious about Oats, CountA wasn't even playing in that game. It really looks like he bandwagoned on Oats, decided to bail, and then accuses Tran hypocritically.
2) Echoes Andres's suspicions of pever, and says he should have more than a random vote despite CA's own vote being semi-random ("for lurking").
3)Caius, fair enough but an easy target.
4)The stranger had posted a fair bit, certainly more than other people, namely caius and roadkill. This despite CA's long summary of the game, which would indicate that he would have noticed that roadkill and caius had posted less content than The Stranger, and despite his question to sapi for doing what CA just did here:
A question sapi - Why do you single out RoadKill? Why not Caius who posted nothing but an abstain. At least RoadKill found someone supicious, even if his logic was flawed.
His hammer of pever was a bit eager I think, and his response to me was very accomodating (the same thing I was suspicious of greaterkhaan for in CNII). He also hammered pever for lurking even though he himself is one of the main lurkers now.
CountArach
05-16-2007, 04:53
Alright, I'll write up my summary in a bit, but for now I shall answer Sasaki's questions:
Tran accuses him of lurking and votes him in the beginning. He responds to this with what looks to me to be a concerted effort to appear to be pro town (very similar to something I did in shallowcreek). His summary however has barely any opinion in it which isn't actually that useful.
I was trying to generate conversation, that is why I gave the questions at the end.
What does this mean exactly? Andres was lynched by bandwagon, his joke was voting for lurkers when the game had just started, that's not similar to what CountA thought was suspicious about Oats, CountA wasn't even playing in that game. It really looks like he bandwagoned on Oats, decided to bail, and then accuses Tran hypocritically.
A fair enough conclusion. Now that I re-read it, it looks like you are right.
2) Echoes Andres's suspicions of pever, and says he should have more than a random vote despite CA's own vote being semi-random ("for lurking").
So voting people for lurking is random? May I remind you of your recent vote on TS:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1541093&postcount=177
Vote:The Stranger
...
The stranger is suffering from lurkiness.
Wow, that seems a lot like :o HYPOCRISY!
4)The stranger had posted a fair bit, certainly more than other people, namely caius and roadkill. This despite CA's long summary of the game, which would indicate that he would have noticed that roadkill and caius had posted less content than The Stranger
By post 119 he had posted 3 times with something to say. One of these was incomprehensible and basically said nothing (post 47), then he voted Andres (post 48) because he couldn't edit. Then in post 100, he asked what people could do in the night. I really don't think this constituts being a good townie.
His hammer of pever was a bit eager I think, and his response to me was very accomodating (the same thing I was suspicious of greaterkhaan for in CNII). He also hammered pever for lurking even though he himself is one of the main lurkers now.
He seemed like the best choice at the time, but as I said he broke the lurkiness right after that post. In addition, I can post a lot less than most people because of my timezone. TS can't use this excuse.
Now I'll read over what I have missed. Expect a summary shortly.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-16-2007, 05:21
A fair enough conclusion. Now that I re-read it, it looks like you are right.
Oh good. So you admit to the most incriminating thing you've done, which is jump of a bad wagon for no reason without actually caring that your suspicions were answered, a sure indicator that your suspicions are not genuine and that you didn't actually take the effort to go and look at the game andres was mentioning?
So voting people for lurking is random? May I remind you of your recent vote on TS:
Wow, that seems a lot like :o HYPOCRISY!
If I attacked people for semi-random votes while randomly voting myself then it would be hypocrasy...but what I am attacking you for is the hypocrisy not the vote. Also I unvoted TS in the same post so your attack is innacurate as well.
By post 119 he had posted 3 times with something to say. One of these was incomprehensible and basically said nothing (post 47), then he voted Andres (post 48) because he couldn't edit. Then in post 100, he asked what people could do in the night. I really don't think this constituts being a good townie.
The Stranger's posts:
vote Andres, cuz its tradition he dies as soon as he is in a game... if i was mafia i'd murder him... but its also tradition im always a townie without a direction but still wins the game by some exquisite detective work but gets lynched by some crazy mob covetting for a heroes blood...
and here's my vote...
vote: Andres
i did not do this on purpose... but BKS stole my sig... i think he's not over the BQS thingy yet...
eh... im not getting it now,,, first andres and the rest had 1... and now suddenly 3...
so... whos lynched... im lost...
so, you are lynched... i can't find the writeup anywhere..
so.. what can u do during night...
Roadkill's posts:
Vote: Abstain for now, but milyoats spamminess is suspicious.
Okay to those who are asking why i didn't vote for millyoats is becuase my suspicion to him is lacking. Therefore voting for someone who i'm not sure is a mafia would be pointless.
Um Stig, I would like to tell you i will not be active on friday and saturday, becuase I will be going camping for those two days.
Caius's posts:
Vote:Abstain
Sorry for having a life.
At this point in the game you yourself had 3 posts. Now, several things:
Lynching or voting someone for "not being a good townie" is a really scummy reason. Most games have 6 people WoG'd. None of them are good townies. Most of the mafia pretend to be good townies. A bad townie is probably just a bad townie, no reason to lynch them. 2nd of all, if you actually cared about lynching a lurker or a bad townie you should have voted caius.
He seemed like the best choice at the time, but as I said he broke the lurkiness right after that post. In addition, I can post a lot less than most people because of my timezone. TS can't use this excuse.
Your timezone...as in you are in australia? Where is pevergreen from again? Why did you say TS can't use this an excuse when we were talking about you hammering pevergreen? If TS couldn't use this an excuse but pevergreen could why did you unvote TS and vote pevergreen? Why not caius who was still more of a lurker? You never answered my question about why you picked you did. Speedlynching someone like that without having good reason to think they are guilty is scummy.
CountArach
05-16-2007, 05:39
Summary since post 120
120 – My summary posted
122 – Warmaster tries to prove his innocence by using the fact he was on at the same time as Stig, yet the day hadn’t finished as an excuse.
123 – Andres points out that Sasaki is always in favour of having as much conversation as possible, yet killed Warmaster.
124 – Andres debunks several of Sasaki’s earlier comments.
125 – Andres posts his suspicions of Tran.
127 – Sasaki votes pever for lurking, and answers several of Andres’ queries.
128 – Caius abstains, saying he has no idea what is going on.
129 – pever gives excuses for lurking
130 – Tran answers Andres questions with some short, clipped sentences, however really doesn’t say much. He votes Caius.
133 – Andres unvotes Sasaki for answering some questions to a satisfactory level. He then votes Omanes for not contributing when he posts.
134 – I point out that pever could have posted a useful post in response to a few posts above him.
136 – Tran continues to answer questions; however his responses are again very flimsy.
138 – Andres says we should lynch one of pever or Omanes.
141 – I unvote and vote pever for lurking.
142 – pever posts
143 – pever is lynched
144 – I apologise to pever
145 – sapi FoS’s myself and Omanes, for breaking ties.
146 – Omanes asks Andres why he thought that pever should be lynched.
147 – Sasaki asks where Omanes broke a tie
148 – sapi said he had only skimmed the thread, and misread some things.
149 – Andres says that Omanes can find an answer by reading the thread, and tells him to answer some questions while he is at it.
150 – TS says he was in Paris for the last 2 days, so couldn’t post.
151 – RoadKill Abstains, but Stig tells him it is night
155 – RoadKill is killed, as is Andres, most likely by a Vigilante
156 – Sasaki votes me
157 – Warmaster asks Omanes to answer some questions and says we should lynch him if he doesn’t respond.
158 – Sasaki unvotes
161 – Sasaki says hegot nothing but pro-town vibes from Andres
165 – Andres calls for Tran or Omanes to be lynched next.
166 – pever claims heis innocent, but as usual, posts nothing useful
167 – Omanes votes Tran.
168 – Sasaki expresses interest as to why Omanes gave no reason
169 – Omanes says that he trusts Andres and that Andres is wrong about him, but right about Tran.
170 – Andres calls for Omanes to be lynched.
171 – Sasaki asks to hear more from myself and sapi
172 – Tran also questions Omanes as to why he gave no reason other than Andres saying so.
175 – sapi votes Omanes for not posting anything with substance, despite himself not saying anything of substance. FoS: sapi
176 – Warmaster urges for Omanes to be lynched.
177 – Sasaki votes TS for lurking, then votes me for saying sorry to pever in post 143, and for posting these summaries.
179 – Stig says he did the kill write-up on Andres, which was suspicious looking.
180 – TS asks Sasaki who he is voting for
185 – Caius votes Omanes
186 – Omanes is lynched
189 – Sasaki calls for more night conversation
192 – Andres points out that the last time he did that, he was mafia
193 – I respond to Sasaki’s question about saying sorry to pever
199 – Sasaki questions TS about who he finds suspicious
200 – Andres says that he thinks that TS found him suspicious
201 – Sasaki says he is satisfied with my answer
202 – TS says he is suspicious of Caius
203 – Warmaster asks for silence at night
204 – Sasaki calls TS mafia for saying he didn’t kill Andres, despite the pro-town role being the only one who could’ve.
205 – And that he claimed during night, which is valid.
208 – TS dismisses it with a “whatever” then accuses Sasaki of being mafia to get the spotlight off of him.
Posts 209 – 213 – Sasaki explains to TS why he couldn’t be pro-town
215 – TS says he was lying
217 – Warmaster claims he knew it was a joke
218 – TS says Sasaki PMed him about it and that he didn’t think that Sasaki would react so seriously
221 – Sasaki claims that that TS told him that he investigated Andres and Caius and that Caius was guilty
225 – Warmaster says that he isn’t trusting anything that TS has posted so far after his claim.
227 – TS says he is leaving for 5 days to France
228 – Sasaki points out that the Vigilante is dead and that he doesn’t believe TS
231 – TS is killed. A very unusual choice of kill.
232 – pever asks Stig if he had changed the grammar of the kill
233 – Stig changed nothing
234 – Sasaki says he is suspicious of me
235 – pever claims that judging on the grammar it is likely to be Caius or Tran
236 – Sasaki votes me with a lot of evidence
237 – I debunk several of the things that Sasaki posted
238 – Sasaki responds with more evidence on me.
Alright, I have another post coming after this...
CountArach
05-16-2007, 06:15
Oh good. So you admit to the most incriminating thing you've done, which is jump of a bad wagon for no reason without actually caring that your suspicions were answered, a sure indicator that your suspicions are not genuine and that you didn't actually take the effort to go and look at the game andres was mentioning?
No, I admit that your reasoning was sound. You are still wrong.
If I attacked people for semi-random votes while randomly voting myself then it would be hypocrasy...but what I am attacking you for is the hypocrisy not the vote. Also I unvoted TS in the same post so your attack is innacurate as well.
It isn’t so much the unvoting of TS that is the point, the point is that you still did something that you considered to be guilty. If you never meant to vote him, why did you vote him in the first place? Seems unusual to me…
Lol, reading over the posts you put up I realised that you sort of proved my point. TS had a total of NO posts of substance. Point me to one that he has made since then… Anyway, I agree with you on Caius and RoadKill, they really need an opinion on this game.
Your timezone...as in you are in australia? Where is pevergreen from again? Why did you say TS can't use this an excuse when we were talking about you hammering pevergreen? If TS couldn't use this an excuse but pevergreen could why did you unvote TS and vote pevergreen? Why not caius who was still more of a lurker? You never answered my question about why you picked you did. Speedlynching someone like that without having good reason to think they are guilty is scummy.
Yes, I am Australian, as is pevergreen.
It was my excuse for a lack of posting, though I had still posted more than pever had in the timeframe we are talking about (I am assuming we are talking about me breaking the tie). I thought that he may have been able to post overnight, but he didn’t.
Why Sasaki is guilty
I posit that SK!=guilty, thus to say that SK=guilty is wrong.
Why so eager to say you are innocent?
Now look at this cluster of posts:
Vote:WarmasterHorus
unvote,Vote:mightilyoats
unvote,Vote:Omanes
unvote,Vote:Caius
unvote,Vote:Warmaster Horus
Wow, that is a lot of Vote skipping! Really quite scummy there Sasaki! Also I find it interesting that you decided to vote Warmaster after making this post:
I shall preemptively state that I will vote anyone who votes Warmaster Horus for "bandwagoning", it's called "getting information" so don't try and shut down discussion.
So why the sudden change of heart? Is it because you found an easy lynch? I also find it interesting that when Warmaster asks where he was Bandwagoning, you responded with “precisely”. It really is very intelligent and sunning of you in this part Sasaki. Trying to secure someone who will not vote against you because you are defending them. Clever
Then we have:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1536527&postcount=84 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1536527&postcount=84)
Post 84, where you lynched Warmaster Horus. I am not attacking this for breaking a tie, because someone had to. Rather I think you use some unusual reasoning. I think it is interesting that you point out that you don’t accept his reason for unvoting you, thus making you appear more pro-town because you are willing to accept a vote or two.
I thought Stig said we could only vote for the people who already had votes. In any case, I wasn't prepared to lynch tran just to vote him.
Stig, did you do that right up?
It should be pointed out that it would appear that you are correct, however Andres makes a good point. It was still 49 minutes until the end of the Day phase. So what stopped you from keeping the tie, or bringing someone else into the tie?
Yes we had to lynch one of those people. Because either there would be a tie and we would be restricted to them, or one of them would acquire two votes and would be lynched. The day was almost over.
We don't know for sure whether WH was innocent either. He could have created a tie but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been lynched. He also only posted 3 minutes before day ended.
I posted lots of evidence on warmaster horus. Why do you say my voting him is inconsistant with my suspicion of tran?
I find it interesting that you give it as a definite that we had to vote them, besides there being no definite word from Stig. This makes someone’s comments appear much more certain and forceful. Something many people would fall for (Myself included I must admit up until this point).
Discussion is good and all, but I'd made up my mind and saw I was in a position to decide the lynch and in my estimation warmaster was suspicious enough to justify it.
I agree on pever btw. unvote,Vote:pever post more.
Why the vote on pever for lurking. As you said later, lurking is not enough of a reason to lynchsomeone. As a matter of fact! Shock Horror! You are voting me for voting pever for lurking!
Vote:CountArach
Out of curiosity. Pending reread.
unvote
need to think about this. I would still like to know why you selected pever from the list, just for reference.
42 minutes later… A reasonable amount of time I suppose. These ones slide…
I want to hear more from countArach and sapi.
What do you think of what sapi has said since then?
Vote:The Stranger
I'm not so convinced that Omanes or Tran are the play for today. Certainly they bear looking at.
The stranger is suffering from lurkiness. I'm also getting a weird vibe from count arach unvote,vote:countarach
I don't like his "lynch pever" then "gah! sorry pevergreen" posting bit. Also, his long summary is something I can see him doing in an attempt to appear pro town when he's mafia.
Why do you vote TS only to vote me right after that? This is completely inconsistent with everything I have come to expect from you. What was your weird vibe from me? Just a “gut feeling”?
Ok I think I'm satisfied with CountA.
Then why are you still attacking me later? I think you are just looking for someone who has something that could be held against them, other than lurking. Though on the other hand, someone could hold that against me.
Vote: Sasaki
Sasaki Kojiro
05-16-2007, 06:30
I'll wait and see if anyone else gives the slightest bit of credence to that post before replying.
Vote hopping? Man have you ever played with me before?
CountArach
05-16-2007, 09:59
What,. so you are afraid to answer some of the things in it? Disdain really isn't cool.
Right all I saw so far is blame game between CA, SK, and previously TS (who are now dead). Some Mafia always try to "fly under the radar", that means Caius, Sapi, and me aswell are within those category. However that's not always mean those who did that are Mafia. Some Mafia will of course try to look active and pro-townie. Also, I can say that I've got many exams during these weeks and I've always tried to do my best to avoid someone getting lynched since the first round, mostly when the votes are all equal and there's really no suspect people can generally agree. You can also check the first round when I withdraw my vote, and next my abstain.
So who do I suspect? I suspect Caius, why? Firstly you should take a look at his post here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1541800&postcount=185). His level of activity and discussion in this thread are pretty much similiar to me, if not less. However, he made no attempt to even share his views and tell others what he thought about the game until then. Second, he provided no other reason for the vote except what he himself said "clearly bandwagon", now I know CA did similiar thing to pever, however CA is much more active than Caius. Third, so far he and Sapi are the only two people here who had successfully managed to avoid "being blamed" by people for doing anything suspicious, due to their level of inactivity here, it gives him plenty of opportunity to sneak and strike at the very correct moment.
Therefore:
Vote: Caius Flaminius
Vote tally:
Caius Flaminius - 1 vote (Tran)
CountArach - 1 vote (Sasaki Kojiro)
Sasaki Kojiro - 1 vote (CountArach)
Sasaki Kojiro
05-16-2007, 15:49
Well, activity seems to be slow. Let's take a look at this.
What does this mean exactly? Andres was lynched by bandwagon, his joke was voting for lurkers when the game had just started, that's not similar to what CountA thought was suspicious about Oats, CountA wasn't even playing in that game. It really looks like he bandwagoned on Oats, decided to bail, and then accuses Tran hypocritically.
A fair enough conclusion. Now that I re-read it, it looks like you are right.
Oh good. So you admit to the most incriminating thing you've done, which is jump of a bad wagon for no reason without actually caring that your suspicions were answered, a sure indicator that your suspicions are not genuine and that you didn't actually take the effort to go and look at the game andres was mentioning?
No, I admit that your reasoning was sound. You are still wrong.
Amazing. Voting or unvoting without caring about the reasons is one of the best signs of mafia--they already know who is guilty and are more interested in getting a townie lynched while appearing innocent than in finding the mafia. CountA is now denying this while saying that I'm wrong, but if my reasoning is sound, how I can I be wrong? He's admitting he didn't go back and read andres's game and that the other things are true, which makes my conclusion correct. My conclusion doesn't say he is mafia, but I think it's pretty good evidence of his guilt.
Also, you still haven't answered the question CountA. Why did you vote the stranger and hammer pevergreen, when Caius had been posting less?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-16-2007, 16:08
I posit that SK!=guilty, thus to say that SK=guilty is wrong.
Why so eager to say you are innocent?
Dude, seriously, it's page one. I'm also not claiming innocence here, I'm saying that I am not inherently guilty.
Wow, that is a lot of Vote skipping! Really quite scummy there Sasaki!
I always do this. It's not scummy. It's called "finding mafia".
Also I find it interesting that you decided to vote Warmaster after making this post:
I shall preemptively state that I will vote anyone who votes Warmaster Horus for "bandwagoning", it's called "getting information" so don't try and shut down discussion.
So why the sudden change of heart? Is it because you found an easy lynch? I also find it interesting that when Warmaster asks where he was Bandwagoning, you responded with “precisely”. It really is very intelligent and sunning of you in this part Sasaki. Trying to secure someone who will not vote against you because you are defending them. Clever
Change in heart? I didn't vote warmaster for bandwagonning in that post of his. I voted him for the evidence laid out in my post. I defend people as townie all the time.
Post 84, where you lynched Warmaster Horus. I am not attacking this for breaking a tie, because someone had to. Rather I think you use some unusual reasoning. I think it is interesting that you point out that you don’t accept his reason for unvoting you, thus making you appear more pro-town because you are willing to accept a vote or two.
What was unusual about the reasoning? It's possible to unvote someone for scummy reasons.
It should be pointed out that it would appear that you are correct, however Andres makes a good point. It was still 49 minutes until the end of the Day phase. So what stopped you from keeping the tie, or bringing someone else into the tie?
I already answered this. What stopped you?
Why the vote on pever for lurking. As you said later, lurking is not enough of a reason to lynchsomeone. As a matter of fact! Shock Horror! You are voting me for voting pever for lurking!
I'm not voting you for that reason. Lynching votes are different from other votes, as you pointed out I jump my vote around a lot.
What do you think of what sapi has said since then?
Nothing much.
Why do you vote TS only to vote me right after that? This is completely inconsistent with everything I have come to expect from you. What was your weird vibe from me? Just a “gut feeling”?
I do this all the time as well. It's my way of showing my thought process.
Then why are you still attacking me later? I think you are just looking for someone who has something that could be held against them, other than lurking. Though on the other hand, someone could hold that against me.
I lost interest in you when the stranger started his little thing. I figured he was guilty for sure.
So, you think I am looking for actual evidence rather than just voting people for lurking? Fancy that.
The interesting thing about your accusation CountArach is that you have made no hint of finding me suspicious before this. All those posts have been here this whole time. I've prodded you and voted you and said you were suspicious in the past. Your accusation smells of reactionism.
You also backtrack after admitting to things that make you very suspicious, and say I'm guilty for behavior that you know is my normal townie behavior. You have played with me in many games.
Where is sapi? He's been online for a long while today and he has been posting in Kung Fu mafia?
And Caius, I know lurking is your "new style" since you usually end up lynched while innocent, but this is taking extreme proportions.
Then why are you still attacking me later? I think you are just looking for someone who has something that could be held against them, other than lurking.
You ask yourself the question: would Sasaki stir up discussion if he was mafia? Remember Ichigo's game? Sasaki still made quite a few posts there, but the content of those posts didn't stir up discussion.
It's difficult to detect Sasaki's guilt, but I think we can trust him in this game.
Sasaki is right when he says you are just responding to threats. You made a post in the beginning of the game, accusing three or four players. Than, you start lurking and don't bother to post any analysis. When you draw attention, all of the sudden you respond, start defending and cast a retaliation vote.
EDIT: and why limiting yourself to defending? You made a nice summary, why not making conclusions and give an overview of your thoughts about the other players? Why the focus on your defense and attack against Sasaki. There are still several other players who might be mafia...
Since I'm going to a party and activity is low this will run for some more hours
Warmaster Horus
05-16-2007, 19:15
Good. Thanks.
It's still a tie, I believe?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-16-2007, 22:06
Caius hasn't sent in orders for Battle Royal. I believe he is genuinely inactive.
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