Eurotrashvision [Archive]

edyzmedieval

05-12-2007, 23:23

Winner: Serbia.

Sorry Rdece, but the song your country came up with is one of the worst songs I've eve heard in the past couple of years. No rythm, just a girl ( or a boy? what is he/she?) who's screaming something out of a mouth. Really, the song is disgusting. :thumbsdown:

Even though you might label me as nationalistic, I found that Romania had the most original tune, and even though I dont like the music in my country, I have to admit it was really good, and had catch for the public. Russia, with 5-6 girls copied it off a known hit (the music), Sweden tried to "copy" Abba, but Ukraine was damned hilarious with that guy who was dressed up...ehem... :laugh4:

But some of the songs, like United Kingdom ( what in the world was that? ), Macedonia ( see Serbia ), Bosnia Herzegovina ( ??? ) were top 12 and tunes like France, Latvia and Romania were left outside, is simply incredibly stupid. Or should I say, politically masterminded?

Sorry for being so one-sided, but just listen to the songs and then we will talk...

:thumbsdown:

AggonyDuck

05-12-2007, 23:33

The best song won. Serbia's song sent shivers down my spine, despite the fact that I didn't understand the words. Overall it was a powerful song that was both beautiful and touching. :2thumbsup:

edyzmedieval

05-12-2007, 23:35

Where have you been living in the past couple of months? Cave? Monastery? Alone in the woods?

How could that song possibly be touching? Even church music is better in terms of beauty and message.

AggonyDuck

05-12-2007, 23:53

Well it is your loss if you failed to see the beauty of that song. Additionally I do not like your insinuation that I'd have to live in a bloody monastery or a cave to be touched by that song.

Tribesman

05-13-2007, 01:06

Perhaps Ireland should have gone with this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8linZiGYSeE&mode=related&search=
Then again at least with the Dervish effort being so rubbish (even by eurovision standards) it means the bookmakers are paying out well:2thumbsup: 33/1 woohoo~:cheers:

naut

05-13-2007, 02:21

@ Tribesman: :laugh4:

Laman

05-13-2007, 07:39

Hmmph. France should have won. They or Hungary. But Serbia wasn't that bad, so it is an acceptable winner.

Ser Clegane

05-13-2007, 07:44

Ukraine was damned hilarious
When I saw that one I actually thought I was on drugs ("sieben, sieben, eins, zwei" ... what the... ? :inquisitive:)

Kind of liked it...

Omanes Alexandrapolites

05-13-2007, 07:53

Serbia was the only country that I saw, so I can't really compare with other countries, Eurovision is not my sort of thing, and neither is music in general. I do agree, however, that he/she wasn't especially good. It was a combination of a poor song and the way it was sung it in my opinion.

Quid

05-13-2007, 08:26

The right song won. Serbia was by miles the best entry this year.

Sure, there is plenty of political voting but that makes it all fun. Common, hand on heart, who really wants to actually win the Eurovision?

I should have gone to the bookies. I had the first three all right.

Many entries were rubbish (dare I say, all) but at least some had real entertainment value.

Quid

InsaneApache

05-13-2007, 09:24

Did Greece not vote for Turkey again? :inquisitive: :laugh4:

I'll bet they voted for Cyprus though. :laugh4:

edyzmedieval

05-13-2007, 10:14

Cyprus gave 12 points to Greece, and 0 to Turkey. :beam:

@Tribesman: :laugh4:

@AggonyDuck

I'm sorry, but that song has no melody whatsoever. :thumbsdown:

bloody monastery

Bloody monastery? Here's another thing that demonstrates that the song is rubbish. The singer should have been to rehab before this. I really disliked her attitude, fist up and that pitbull face. Disgusting once again. :thumbsdown:

Quid

05-13-2007, 11:40

This 'dicsussion' is very comical; in fact, almost as comical as the ESC itself. No one claimes to watch it, yet, everybody seems to want to have a say in it (lest we forget, 140 million actually DID watch it).

Having said that, this board seems to consist of mainly 'sensible' people, hence the poor amount of posts (or perhaps people really DO have something better to do on Mothers Day).

The ESC is a comedy night (and not a particularly good one at that) but it only ever happens once a year. It has reached cult status and is a 'must-see' for at least half of this continent. It mirrors not only (hardly at all) the quality of music or performances but mainly the political allegences. The West has dominated the ESC for the whole of the last century. Now, all of a sudden, we get worked up about the East and their lending a helping hand to their neighbours. What's wrong what that? Let them host it and make a laughing stock of themselves. I can't wait to see the Serbs botch the job.

And let's face it, there must have been something to their song as the Serbs are not exactly the most popular country in Europe.

Leap of faith here:

Germany - were never going to win with big band music
Russia - were always going to be in the top 5 - politics and chicks
Ukraine - absolutely silly and comedy award winners - definitely top 3
UK - oh dear, neither funny nor a good and memorable song
Romania - qualitatively low but comical
France - dito
Bulgaria - wacky
Finland - I actually liked that song - should have done better
Moldavia - dito
Sweden - another 'oh dear'...
Turkey - just goes to show that belly dancing gets you a top 10 spot
Greece - I can't actually remember any of it...

As to the other entries, most were rubbish (no memorale melody or not comical enough).

Quid

Bijo

05-13-2007, 11:43

You people actually watch this rubbish? Going to hell and back causes less suffering.

Marius Dynamite

05-13-2007, 11:56

I was playing Xbox but I have 2 TV's in my room so I had it on aswell since nothing else was on. I see it as very politically influenced. Malta gave UK 12 points despite a song from a totally unknown group of people. Bulgaria gave Greece 12 aswell, Norway gave Sweden 12.. I think even Ireland gave UK a good few.

The point is, in the UK no one will enter for Eurovision who is well known probably because they dont want a destroyed reputation because no one will vote for UK because no one likes England.

masteri

05-13-2007, 12:07

Did some one said smoething bad about my country(Serbia) song:whip:
Best song 4ever

Dutch_guy

05-13-2007, 13:00

You people actually watch this rubbish?

Yeah, wondered the same thing.

:balloon2:

phoenix[illusion]

05-13-2007, 13:12

This would be better for Ireland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEt2XdN_TbQ

edyzmedieval

05-13-2007, 13:38

Did some one said smoething bad about my country(Serbia) song:whip:
Best song 4ever

Best song 4 ever to throw in the trash can.

I watch it because it amuses me every time how people give points to their traditional adversaries. Cyprus gave 12 points to Greece( figures ) but 0 points to Turkey. :laugh2:

naut

05-13-2007, 14:18

Cyprus gave 12 points to Greece( figures ) but 0 points to Turkey.
What do you expect when Turkey has annexed (or sanctioned the annexation of) half of your country.

LeftEyeNine

05-13-2007, 14:42

What do you expect when Turkey has annexed (or sanctioned the annexation of) half of your country.

Yeah sure, massacring is only Turkish job. It doesn't count as ethnic cleansing when other do it right? :2thumbsup: Bloody hell, get some facts before you open your mouth again. I know this is not the place for politics -but I'll always remind to those no matter what that it's not a place to paint lies around.

Seriously, who gives a heck to Eurovision?

Scandinavians love each other. Same goes for most of the neighboring countries. If you have many immigrants in a country you'll get a traditionally high score.(e.g. Turks in Germany) Cyprus does not like Turkey although we are neighbors. And such tremendously and hilariously senseless deepsh-pit of political scene all around.

Do you really think it's a contest about music ?

The Stranger

05-13-2007, 15:08

Yeah, wondered the same thing.

:balloon2:

Great mind think alike :laugh4:

Orb

05-13-2007, 15:26

France was hilarious. But that was the only one I saw.

Personally, I doubt that any song would have been worth voting for.

Dutch_guy

05-13-2007, 16:54

Great mind think alike :laugh4:

:2thumbsup:

Yeah sure, massacring is only Turkish job. It doesn't count as ethnic cleansing when other do it right? :2thumbsup: Bloody hell, get some facts before you open your mouth again. I know this is not the place for politics -but I'll always remind to those no matter what that it's not a place to paint lies around.

Rythmic didn't even mention the word massacre, he merely stated there's a Turkish presence on Cyprus. So I'm assuming he wasn't trying to insult Turkey, or any of it's members here.

:balloon2:

Bijo

05-13-2007, 16:55

Alright alright. Nothing to see here! Move along now. I demand this thread be closed :saint:

Otherwise, fehgeddaboudid. I'll have another Heineken.

Big King Sanctaphrax

05-13-2007, 17:16

Talk about the song contest guys. Any more country-bashing and this gets closed.

doc_bean

05-13-2007, 18:07

This thread once again proves that only Eastern Europe still cares about Eurosong.

It's supposed to be travesty people !

I don't *think* this is country bashing...

scotchedpommes

05-13-2007, 20:21

Sorry Rdece, but the song your country came up with is one of the worst songs I've eve heard in the past couple of years. No rythm, just a girl ( or a boy? what is he/she?) who's screaming something out of a mouth. Really, the song is disgusting. :thumbsdown:

Surely you're talking about Bulgaria? That was the screamer. Not this operatic
wonderment.

Heh. And it's a matter of taste, I'd say. It's not my country, either, but naturally
I felt obliged to vote for its song purely on the basis that it's the first time they've
made it past the semi-final. I thought your song was dire, by the way. ~;)

[And I wasn't going to vote for the Serbian entry.] Oh, though did notice on tele
here that they showed the Croatian flag for the Serbian entry. Somebody has a dark
sense of humour.

edyzmedieval

05-13-2007, 22:18

Bulgaria sucked too. That was something like "scream, scream and scream again, this time harder".

Romania dire? It was the most original one actually. We were the only ones who sang in more than 2 languages.

IrishArmenian

05-14-2007, 06:39

Hayko sold out with his English song!
I didn't care muich for the Haye (Armenian) version either, though.

Geoffrey S

05-14-2007, 09:19

You people actually watch this rubbish? Going to hell and back causes less suffering.
Agreed.

What puzzles me more than people watching it, which can be entertaining with friends and beer, is that some people seem to take it all so seriously...

caravel

05-14-2007, 10:45

I missed it this time around... just like last time, and the time before that, and before that... anyway, did Greece and Cyprus vote for each other? :Zzzz:

English assassin

05-14-2007, 11:43

Russia should have won, although whether it was really worth watching two hours of Eurovision for three hawt chicks I'm not sure.

I liked Finland's effort too, but has she got Nightwish in her record collection OR WHAT?

Otherwise, the Ukranian transvestite in silver foil singing a dance number in German (I think), summed up the true spirit of Eurovision for me. Sir/Madam, I salute you.

And, now I know the UK is NOT in a position to criticise here, but the Irish effort was pretty poor. I seriously thought we were in danger of little leprechauns capering onto the stage when the bodhran came out.

Serbia: sorry, no.

edyzmedieval

05-14-2007, 13:46

Ireland was the worst really. How could they possibly bring such a song?

InsaneApache

05-14-2007, 14:03

Ireland was the worst really. How could they possibly bring such a song?

Prolly sick to the back teeth hosting it. :laugh4:

English assassin

05-14-2007, 14:32

Bijo

05-14-2007, 16:12

What puzzles me more than people watching it, which can be entertaining with friends and beer, is that some people seem to take it all so seriously...
You mean people who are sitting there in front of their telly, yelling at it, and cursing out countries' songs they don't like as they appear, as well as people of other countries they mock, as they carry with them a certain "nationalism" of some sort? Heh heh :)

I can imagine the "pride" or honour it could bring a nation, but really... I don't see how it's about a nation that is so good that it has to win: it's about artists -- it hurts to call these people artists -- who perform and are good at music / singing and performing, not about nations competing with each other. Art is of no country.

With that said, I still demand this thread be closed. Who wants free beer to help me close it? :saint:

ZombieFriedNuts

05-14-2007, 16:26

next year i vote we send some moris dansers anythings better than scoot and last years atempt

KukriKhan

05-14-2007, 16:38

Antagonist

05-14-2007, 16:45

Am I the only one who never bothers watching the actual contest, but tunes in for the brief summaries of each performance and the voting? I actually find that funny, especially with someone like Wogan commenting. Some of the announcers seem to be trying to hold back a cringe at who their country voted for, a couple even rolled their eyes when they gave 12 points to their neighbour or whatever. I particularly recall the announcer for one of the smaller eastern countries being a blinking, bespectacled guy who looked extremely uncomfortable, interrupting the Finnish hosts to deliver his results in a deadpan monotone, it looked like the obligatory cute Slavic girl had failed to show up for some reason and they'd shoved him in at the last minute.

The voting can be interesting to watch though I find, it's not always true that countries vote for their friends (though obviously it happens a lot) or that the voting is calculated strategically to make their country to better. My country actually voted itself into last by giving 12 points to the only country doing equally badly, Lithuania. We deserved it though, there's a conspiracy theory that Ireland deliberately sends appalling acts these days because they're sick of hosting the competition (having one it more times then anyone else) but I think this time they really wanted to do well, ironically. Celtic music may be the only kind of "folk" music with any mainstream resonance or popularity, but not if it's really, really bad.

I voted for Montenegro personally, something catchy about that one.

Antagonist

InsaneApache

05-14-2007, 16:47

edyzmedieval

05-14-2007, 17:24

I voted for Montenegro personally, something catchy about that one.
Antagonist

Yes of course, the female presence was indeed catching. :grin:

@Kukri

Good god, dont ever let me click on that link again. :sweatdrop:

Ser Clegane

05-14-2007, 19:53

For any non-Euro's who'd like to play along, here's a LINK (http://www.keithm.utvinternet.ie/Winners.htm) to a site that lists all the winning songs since 1956, along with .wmv files of their performances.
Thanks for the link, Kukri - quite interesting.

When screening through some of the winners I noticed that e.g. in the later 70s the contest actually produced some songs that were apparently quite popular at that time. Scarily enough I remember all the winning songs for the years 1974-1979 - either those songs were much more successful at their times than the winners of the last years were, or my parents just loved them so much that they were forever burnt into my brain...

KukriKhan

05-14-2007, 20:10

LoL. "Wo-wo-wo-wo Waterlooooo..." Yeah that was big here too in 1974. Kinda fun for this oldtimer to watch the clips from so far back.

scotchedpommes

05-14-2007, 21:15

That reminds me, I actually saw the show when the UK selected the camp air stewards, and it was an outrage that Big Brovaz weren't selected. No one else had a hip hop song, so it would have stood out, and it was actually quite good. And I don't even like hip hop.

Still, its a hard call to make, selecting your entry. You've got a load of Brits with bad taste trying to decide what an assorted lot of Eastern Europeans with bad taste might like. Its probably not what Jim Steinman would do. (On reflection, its EXACTLY what Jim Steinmen would do.) I can kind of see why Ireland turned the Celt-O-matic up to 11 though.

Surely you remember they had an audience of those very same Eastern
Europeans voting for the song they preferred? Big Brovaz won that.
Personally I didn't like the song and voted for the French girl, so I was
extremely disappointed when Wigon made his announcement gaffe.

And yes, Ireland had that excuse for a song simply because they don't want to
host it again. Ever.

Dîn-Heru

05-14-2007, 21:15

UltraWar

05-14-2007, 21:32

']This would be better for Ireland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEt2XdN_TbQ
Agreed!Am I not the only Father Ted fan here?

scotchedpommes

05-14-2007, 21:45

Ireland was the worst really. How could they possibly bring such a song?

Prolly sick to the back teeth hosting it. :laugh4:

Whoops, missed that one.

Should add some of the texts coming in during the voting [could see it if you
were watching on the digital service here] were absolute classics.

edyzmedieval

05-14-2007, 22:57

Really, Ireland was absolutely rubbish. It was like watching a bunch of leprechauns singing "Old McDonald had a farm...".

InsaneApache

05-14-2007, 23:23

Really, Ireland was absolutely rubbish. It was like watching a bunch of leprechauns singing "Old McDonald had a farm...".

:laugh4:

Whoops, missed that one.

Hey np mate. I know how you get carried away with the excitement of it all...you being an Arsenal fan an' all that. :)

paul_kiss

05-27-2007, 21:20

Not to repeat myself I'll copy-paste what I wrote in my blog after watching Eurovision.

Was watching Eurovision. Didn't quite get it why Serbia won... Some hazy song... Hazy singer... I've got torrents of soundtracks from PC games which are way more lyciral than this...
Yet the second position is also a success.
And always g.r.e.a.t. to see so many different faces from all over Europe.
Europe is the right choice. (http://paul-kiss.livejournal.com/127218.html?usescheme=lynx)

Yes, and also Verka Serduchka's song + show reminded me Rammstein, CC Catch and Austin Powers. And that's cool. (Though, frankly speaking, the very song was not one of the best). (http://paul-kiss.livejournal.com/128196.html?usescheme=lynx)

As for Russia, those three chicks who were supposed to be sexy-looking sucked. There are many chick bands for 1 day there in Russia, and they sent one of the worst. Total rubbish.

Orb

05-28-2007, 03:56

Ukraine definately should have won.. How can anyone even compete with something like this: http://www.eurovision.tv/addons/mediaplayer/video/ukr.html

Good God I nearly doubled over laughing when I acidentally saw this number..:laugh4:

Normally you'd need to pay good money to see someone abasing themself so much.

That said, I love some of the older winners, particularly Rock 'n' Roll Kids (even though I'm usually a progressive type). Quality's sort of taken a nose dive here.

edyzmedieval

05-28-2007, 18:23

The music quality in this days is in a free fall, actually something like a stall dive.

Reverend Joe

05-28-2007, 19:01

...What the hell?

:help: I'm never coming back to this place again.

AntiochusIII

05-30-2007, 00:46

...What the hell?

:help: I'm never coming back to this place again.Come now. I'm enjoying the hypocrisy of some people. :laugh4:

"Eurovision sucks! -- and I watched it all. Goddammit why didn't [insert country here] win!?" :clown:

Personally, seeing Ms. Ukraine makes me agree that Eurovision is the greatest thing coming out of Europe since Madame de Pompadour and Mozart. I tell you, it'll be the uniting force of the diverse European people that brings out the spirit of the European empires of old out once more.

Drisos

05-31-2007, 09:50

Really liked the Serbia song, and a couple of others but I can't remember which. Glad it won. :sweatdrop:

Ukrain was crap, along with basically all of West-Europe. :wall: :thumbsdown:

Intresting how Holland keeps voting Turkey every year, no matter how afwul the song is.:wall:

Caerfanan

06-07-2007, 13:25

We-ell, it seems that this Eurovision stuff makes som ink flow.

The last I watched was in 1986 or 1987....

I'll agree with LEN, I think some situations are waaaay more complex and waaaay less "bad vs. evil"ish than most people unfortunately believe. Having the average guy voting in those contests means that politics have a very big influence. Hence the Greece/Turkey/Cyprus fact which happens systematically.

I don't know much about the songs and all, but what I know is that I rolled on the floor laughing when I heard that a finnish METAL band did win the 2006 eurovision, I heard the soundtrack of the french commentator saying "what is this?? If they win, I'll eat my hat, it's impossible". Just for this, I love Finland a bit more! Well done lads!! :laugh4:

On a more serious note, this made the other countries stop sending their "unknown classical singer" apparently: very good!