Watchman
05-14-2007, 18:28
The situation is that Pontos lacks a trait for the faction leader, although it has the usual trait ("Koiranides") for the faction heir with the usual effects, which has the odd side effect that the heir gets more Influence, personal security and therefore bodyguards than the king all other things being equal. Saba in turn lacks both. I tried to make suitable placeholder traits to fix the issues because that was sor tof annoying.
The one for Pontos worked well enough - I basically just copy-pasted the "Basileus" trait triggers and altered the faction IDs as necessary. The trait and triggers look like this if someone wants to use them:
Trait Basileus
Characters family
AntiTraits Koiranides
Level Basileus
Description Basileus_desc
EffectsDescription Basileus_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 2
Effect Law 2
Effect Command 1
Effect TroopMorale 1
Effect PersonalSecurity 3
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Pontos_is_Basileus
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Basileus < 1
and FactionType carthage
Affects Basileus 1 Chance 100
Affects Factionheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Exheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Noble 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Pontos_Becomes_Basileus
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader
Condition FactionType carthage
Affects Basileus 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------These aren't very savegame compatible mind you - when I reloaded my ongoing Pontos campaign they kinda screwed up all the characters' traits up to and including ethnicities, but seemed to work fine when I briefly tested them in a new campaign.
The problems came when I tried to adapt the whole factionleader/heir trait thingy and the relevant triggers for Saba. I created a "Malek" trait for the leader by copy-pasting and slightly altering the standard leader traits - the result looks like this:
;Trait: Malek
; o Malek: <Influence> 2, <Law> 2, <Command> 1, <TroopMorale> 1 , <PersonalSecurity> 3
Trait Malek
Characters family
AntiTraits Prince
Level Malek
Description Malek_desc
EffectsDescription Malek_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 2
Effect Law 2
Effect Command 1
Effect TroopMorale 1
Effect PersonalSecurity 3, ...which should be correct enough (I used the existing generic "Prince" trait for the heir). I also created the appropriate trait description in export_VnVs.txt by the same method. The triggers I adapted from the existing ones for other factions, and they look as follows:
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_is_Malek
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Malek < 1
and FactionType saba
Affects Malek 1 Chance 100
Affects Factionheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Exheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Noble 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_Becomes_Malek
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader
Condition FactionType saba
Affects Malek 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_reinherited_Prince
WhenToTest BecomesFactionHeir
Condition Trait ExPrince = 1
and FactionType saba
Affects Prince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_disinherited_Prince
WhenToTest CeasedFactionHeir
Condition not Trait ExPrince = 1
and not IsFactionLeader
and FactionType saba
Affects ExPrince 2 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_inherited_Prince
WhenToTest CeasedFactionHeir
Condition IsFactionLeader
and FactionType saba
Affects ExPrince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_is_heir_Prince
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition IsFactionHeir
and FactionType saba
and Trait Prince < 1
Affects Prince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_becomesheir_Prince
WhenToTest BecomesFactionHeir
Condition FactionType saba
Affects Prince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------These should work as the syntax is identical to those used in the existing triggers, save for the factional references.
They don't, though. Trying to start a new campaign with them in results in an immediate CTD without explanations. Which suggests I've done something wrong, or overlooked something I probably don't even know of. Could someone more clever point out what went wrong, as it is leaving me baffled ?
The one for Pontos worked well enough - I basically just copy-pasted the "Basileus" trait triggers and altered the faction IDs as necessary. The trait and triggers look like this if someone wants to use them:
Trait Basileus
Characters family
AntiTraits Koiranides
Level Basileus
Description Basileus_desc
EffectsDescription Basileus_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 2
Effect Law 2
Effect Command 1
Effect TroopMorale 1
Effect PersonalSecurity 3
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Pontos_is_Basileus
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Basileus < 1
and FactionType carthage
Affects Basileus 1 Chance 100
Affects Factionheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Exheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Noble 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Pontos_Becomes_Basileus
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader
Condition FactionType carthage
Affects Basileus 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------These aren't very savegame compatible mind you - when I reloaded my ongoing Pontos campaign they kinda screwed up all the characters' traits up to and including ethnicities, but seemed to work fine when I briefly tested them in a new campaign.
The problems came when I tried to adapt the whole factionleader/heir trait thingy and the relevant triggers for Saba. I created a "Malek" trait for the leader by copy-pasting and slightly altering the standard leader traits - the result looks like this:
;Trait: Malek
; o Malek: <Influence> 2, <Law> 2, <Command> 1, <TroopMorale> 1 , <PersonalSecurity> 3
Trait Malek
Characters family
AntiTraits Prince
Level Malek
Description Malek_desc
EffectsDescription Malek_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 2
Effect Law 2
Effect Command 1
Effect TroopMorale 1
Effect PersonalSecurity 3, ...which should be correct enough (I used the existing generic "Prince" trait for the heir). I also created the appropriate trait description in export_VnVs.txt by the same method. The triggers I adapted from the existing ones for other factions, and they look as follows:
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_is_Malek
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Malek < 1
and FactionType saba
Affects Malek 1 Chance 100
Affects Factionheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Exheir 1 Chance 100
Affects Noble 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_Becomes_Malek
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader
Condition FactionType saba
Affects Malek 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_reinherited_Prince
WhenToTest BecomesFactionHeir
Condition Trait ExPrince = 1
and FactionType saba
Affects Prince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_disinherited_Prince
WhenToTest CeasedFactionHeir
Condition not Trait ExPrince = 1
and not IsFactionLeader
and FactionType saba
Affects ExPrince 2 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_inherited_Prince
WhenToTest CeasedFactionHeir
Condition IsFactionLeader
and FactionType saba
Affects ExPrince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_is_heir_Prince
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition IsFactionHeir
and FactionType saba
and Trait Prince < 1
Affects Prince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Saba_becomesheir_Prince
WhenToTest BecomesFactionHeir
Condition FactionType saba
Affects Prince 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------These should work as the syntax is identical to those used in the existing triggers, save for the factional references.
They don't, though. Trying to start a new campaign with them in results in an immediate CTD without explanations. Which suggests I've done something wrong, or overlooked something I probably don't even know of. Could someone more clever point out what went wrong, as it is leaving me baffled ?