Observation - AWESOME TW Movie [Archive]

Shahed

05-17-2007, 04:33

Well....

This evening I saw one of the best user made TW movies ever on YouTube, thanks to Lord Comnenus who posted this link at TWC.

So here it is:

YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs5aDpjq0nM) by Sin329 (https://www.youtube.com/user/sin329)

(blue are links).

Stunning camera angles, pro-extreme close up, VERY well filmed.
What do you all think ?

Kobal2fr

05-17-2007, 04:36

Hmmm...Sin329... playing the Turks...could it be SINan ?! :laugh4:

(just kidding, mate. Besides, I wouldn't mind either way, and if it IS you, well it's an outstanding movie so be proud)

I love the sun-fireball thing. Wonder how he did it. I also like the close-up DFK, you can almost hear him buckle up and say "well, that was a horrible, horrible mistake. *sigh* Well, MEN, IT'S ONCE AGAIN UP TO US !"

Shahed

05-17-2007, 04:48

HAHA !

He's an impostor ! No honest it was'nt me.. someone HAS to make a movie about LE FRENCH !! That's gonna be me ! :D
The naptha, the retreat into the stakes. Amazing talent.

The sun effect is a still, then he releases the clip on the still, it merges, and you get that shot.

Tambarskjelve

05-17-2007, 06:33

Fantastic use of angles, an amazing display of the small quirks and detail in the animation in the engine, like the celebrating.
I wonder how he got the knights to charge the stakes, AND the spear to retreat just before them, both things the AI would never do..

I often sit back after a really great battle, and wish i had been able to enjoy the show more, rather than panically order my units around.
I guess that's the curse of the general, the men gets all the fun.. :)

Shahed

05-17-2007, 06:57

Could be he was on LAN/Internet with someone. But I don't think so. He made a few replays, pathed the camera, set favorite angles, filmed it, cropped and minor edits, and posted.

It is hard to get the knights to charge AND pull back as perfectly as he did. I'd like to watch the show too, hence why I've opened a replay test thread. If the replays work for everyone as then we may finally be able to watch the show for a change.

BTW there's some decent Armed Assault videos there on his page as well.

Alexander the Pretty Good

05-17-2007, 07:42

Very well done, though neither of the two factions are my favorite.

Ciaran

05-17-2007, 10:05

Absolutely brilliant! I would have enjoyed a bit more of the infantry melee, but I suppose the exiting scene with the burning knight is about as dramatic as things can get.

Daveybaby

05-17-2007, 10:19

That is indeed very good. Would love to see a version without the horrible youtube compression.

I would have enjoyed a bit more of the infantry meleeI'm guessing that's to come in part 2

Shahed

05-18-2007, 03:30

Absolutely brilliant! I would have enjoyed a bit more of the infantry melee, but I suppose the exiting scene with the burning knight is about as dramatic as things can get.

I think he did'nt do the melee because (LOL) it would have been really hard to get the same quality of shots. Just a guess. Indeed he might do a part 2 with it so he's got time to set it up.

Would love to see a version without the horrible youtube compression.

Good idea ! I'm going to post him a request.

Csargo

05-18-2007, 05:03

Good find Sinan! That is a great little movie. ;) :bow:

Yun Dog

05-18-2007, 05:09

SUPERB!!!

my compliments to the cinematographer

Shahed

05-18-2007, 05:20

Pleasure, Ichigo.

Here's another.
It's pretty good I think, though that Papal States vs Turks movie has set a new standard. That standard will be hard to meet.
In this movie you can tell that good animation shots are elusive, because the animations keep snapping.

LINK ! (http://files.filefront.com/FINAL_FINAL.wmv/;7517677;/fileinfo.html)

The ending is GREAT !

Csargo

05-18-2007, 05:29

Another nice one.

Kaldhore

05-18-2007, 05:54

Nice video, a greatdemo for the game I think :)

Shahed

05-18-2007, 05:59

GREAT ! Glad you guys like vids too... so I'm gonna be posting loads of links !!!

STAY TUNED !!!

Flavius Merobaudes

05-18-2007, 07:45

Yeah, please post some more, sir!
It's quite odd in the second video that the guy sees any historical ties between TKs and 1942.:dizzy2:

Kobal2fr

05-18-2007, 20:06

Yeah, please post some more, sir!
It's quite odd in the second video that the guy sees any historical ties between TKs and 1942.:dizzy2:

Why ? Stalin certainly commissioned a LOT of movies linking his "Great Patriotic War" and Russia's victory against the Drang Nach Osten, to emphasize two points : that the Germans were bad bad meanies, and that they could be beaten by plucky Russian peasants.

I'm not really fond of the movie though. Too slow-paced, little to no editing work, a LOT of close-ups meant to be stylish but with the fighters clearly not hitting each other...

Flavius Merobaudes

05-18-2007, 20:19

Some more fans of old Sergei Eisenstein propaganda movies here?:laugh4:
I remember the Teutonic Knights in "Alexander Newski". They came right from hell... Too bad Stalin came from hell, too. :skull:

Kobal2fr

05-18-2007, 20:24

Yeah, Nevsky is frickin' great... if a bit heavy-handed at times. I mean, throwing babies in the fire ? Might as well write "Germans are bad, m'kay ?" on a sledgehammer and hit the audience with it :laugh4:

Flavius Merobaudes

05-18-2007, 20:39

Bijo

05-18-2007, 20:48

Kobal2fr

05-18-2007, 21:52

Oui. J'ai la meme opinion. Mais les Francais, ils sont les plus mauvais dans tous circonstances. Simplement terrible, ces gens! Et la langue...:dizzy2:
Well, I guess my French is too bad. So I must stop mocking you.

Un ballon pour m'excuser? :balloon2:
Don't take this serious!:laugh4:

A friend of mine once phrased our feelings on patriotism thus : "Les gens ne sont fiers d'où ils sont nés que quand ils n'ont vraiment rien d'autre." (people only take pride in where they were born when they don't have anything else to be proud of). So don't worry, no offense taken :laugh4:

Marius Dynamite

05-19-2007, 00:24

Great Video. One bad thing is the archers not pulling back the string on the bow :( I wish that would get fixed!

Shahed

05-19-2007, 00:57

Yeah but there is incredible detail anyway but I agree would be nice to see everything, the arrow, string and all.

Doug-Thompson

05-21-2007, 15:41

Yes, it is an awesome movie. Did I mention that I love Naffatun?

Shahed

05-21-2007, 19:29

Not previously, no. But you just did !

Shahed

05-24-2007, 07:10

Here's another GREAT movie, made by Another_Canadian:

M2:TW Scotland vs England. (https://youtube.com/watch?v=wnxOHCj3x3Y)

ENJOY !

Kobal2fr

05-24-2007, 14:27

That one I like ! Although duelling archers with the limeys ? Not the brightest idea ever :laugh4:. But it's really well made. I love that travelling behind the synchronised archers volleying in turn.

Shahed

05-30-2007, 12:46

Check this out. Another "test" by Sin329

Venice vs Turks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tCgDBsOA_g) <-LINK !

ENJOY !

Kobal2fr

05-30-2007, 12:54

That man has talent. That swordfight in the end is a thing of beauty, and extra points as well for Hot Ribault Action :yes:

Shahed

05-30-2007, 12:57

Yeah, not to mention the shots of the musketeers, aiming and firing from up close. Makes every man look individual. I like the Xbow shot on the JHI as well. All of them are very detailed, very precise. I like the way the JHI & Hashis are just walking up to the Ribault but I would have liked to see more impact damage in that shot. Brilliant movie.

ninjahboy

05-30-2007, 13:22

very cool indeed

ElectricEel

05-30-2007, 20:10

I have to agree, Sin329's videos are very impressive.

EDIT: Wow. After watching one of his Armed Assault videos, I have to say the above is an understatement. These are simply brilliant. I'll have to watch them all at some point.

Shahed

05-30-2007, 20:35

Yeap... he's not even started doing videos for M2 yet, apparently.
That's what you'd guess once you see the ARMA videos, the M2 videos he's done look like tests or fooling around in comparison.

Ciaran

05-31-2007, 09:38

:2thumbsup: Another great one, I liked the soundtrack. The PotC theme somehow fit very well with all the gunpowder action.

Shahed

06-03-2007, 12:09

This one is defintely worth mention. Be patient and there are some cool shots in this one:

http://files.filefront.com//;7674542;/

Wow, the archers in thsi video must have got a lot of kills.

Flavius Merobaudes

06-03-2007, 13:15

What a massacre!:no:
No, really great shooting. The archers as well as the camera.

BTW, could anyone identify the language of the music. Their are some Latin parts in there, but on the other hand it seems to be French at least in some parts.

Edit: One more example for the importance to keep the high ground.

Shahed

06-03-2007, 14:00

Yeah it definetly had a major tragedy theme to it.

Shahed

06-03-2007, 22:45

BTW, could anyone identify the language of the music. Their are some Latin parts in there, but on the other hand it seems to be French at least in some parts.

Bitte:

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/sreply/205834/t/Cinematic-Editor-Screenshots-only.html

..the "scary, creepy soundtrack"....the second one?
thats in "old-french" ...messieurs. somewehre in time after the gallo-roman period and before the "paris-dialect" starts to dominate the language...
the intro and the last one (violine-theme) calls "agincourt", but unfortunately the interpret is unknown.

Kobal2fr

06-04-2007, 18:51

Not to derail or hijack the thread and turn it into a discussion on semantics, but there's no such thing as "old French", or at least not in the sense that there is an "old English".

Medieval France was in fact torn apart by this problem : we were one country with two (well, three with Latin) languages, the langue d'oc and the langue d'oïl.
Langue d'oc was spoken in the southern regions, and consisted in a mix of pig latin, proto-Italian, proto-Spanish etc..., with lots of hard consonnants and vowels. Occitan is the modern dialect derived from it (if you want to hear some, I know the dub band Massilia Sound System has some tracks in occitan, and the Fabulous Trobadors as well).
Langue d'oïl was also based on latin, but with influences from the northern germanic, celtic, gaellic and scandinavian languages, and spawned the various diphtongues and nasal sounds which to this day make non-native French speakers identifiable in 2 seconds because no Englishman can come up with a decent "on" to save his life :}.

Speakers of both languages of course considered themselves to be speaking "real French" when the other guys were uncouth idiots ; and when the langue d'oïl was adopted in official documents because it was the one spoken in Paris, it caused an uproar, revolts and even threatened to turn into a full blown civil war - supporters of the langue d'oc eventually calmed down but still refused to give up their language and insisted their children learn both. To this day, occitan is still considered a "rebel language" in the south of France, and learning it has become an anti-centralist statement, kinda like learning Welsh in England I suppose.

Shahed

06-04-2007, 19:04

Thanks Kobavelli that's very informative. So in the video it's langue d'oil ?
I like the music though, whatever the language is.

If you know what French they are speaking in the video you might want to inform Vingetorix (the guy who made the statement and the movie). You can find him at the .com.

Callahan9119

06-04-2007, 19:06

was brilliant, but i found the ending lacking, should have been a pan to the defeated army or something. kinda just ended too abruptly

but still, great friggin movie :yes:

Kobal2fr

06-04-2007, 19:08

Nah, what with the bagpipes, the unitone, and the fact that it's a chorus, I can't grasp a word of what is said, let alone what language it is. At first I thought it was Breton (another French dialect... we have lots of those :laugh4:) but there are no Breton tracks on the artists' website so... your guess is as good as mine :sweatdrop:.

Callahan9119

06-05-2007, 08:55

that movie with the archers should have been 1/3 the length, i wanted to stab myself in the face after seeing the same shot over and over of the dfk walking and the pikes squatting on the hill, and the pan of the castle. after the 20th one i'd have assumed he knew we knew there was a castle there :director:

Vingetorix

06-06-2007, 17:42

Shahed

06-06-2007, 19:03

Good to see you here ! :D

Kobal2fr

06-06-2007, 21:04

...Vingetorix is informed now...!
and I am really sorry about my mistake....
"langue d`oil" of corse...i had translatetd directly (and wrong) from my language...its a double shame, cause the western part of our country speaks french too...I for myself had to learn that in "ancient" scooltimes..:book:
Anyway, nice to see, people are watching my "movie"..

Yes it cut be shorter...but it was just a "try out" with the Cine-ed....so i get a 8.5 minutes-flight...and it tells a story...the reason why i dont wanted to put it in the trash... "spiked" it up with standing-scenes, and thats now the result...almost 13 minutes...
even the battle was just to test the patch 1.2...it was never thoght to be a movie....but it grown so.....:laugh4:

Ahem... I didn't want to be an ass or anything, but reading what I wrote a few days later I'm afraid I kinda come out as such :embarassed:.

I mean, I knew from the little blurb of yours quoted by Sinan that you knew exactly what you were talking about and were merely using the wrong word... and I guess I just flew right by on a tangent :oops:

So, sorry if you took it the wrong way, it was certainly not my intention to hurt or disparage you. I'm just anal to the 10th degree like that sometimes :sweatdrop:

Vingetorix

06-06-2007, 21:35

@Kobal2fr
1. english is not my mother-language....so, missunderstoodments are "includet"..(just take look at my grammatics....)
2. i dont took it the wrong way..no,i was glad to see, that someone knew
a lot more about, than me....(btw. the song calls "ore dragonis", lyrics must be contend on the artist-side)...
3. only excuse yourself, if you really have done mistakes...in this case it wold be absolutely unnessecary....:laugh4:

i hope i could clear the situation.....
be critical and stay critical...

Shahed

06-06-2007, 21:42

Vingetorix, other than HRE, what is your favorite faction ?

Vingetorix

06-06-2007, 21:58

:laugh4: ....i played the french, not the HRE...
but back to the question: i like to support my french troops by scottish gallowglasses or heavy russian infantery....
so my next campaign i`will play with one of them...

Shahed

06-08-2007, 11:51

Oh, cool did'nt even realise that.

Here's another by sin329, posted by Lord Commnenus (TWC):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piekpSdFVOQ <- LINK

Kovvers

06-08-2007, 12:18

Oh, cool did'nt even realise that.

Here's another by sin329, posted by Lord Commnenus (TWC):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piekpSdFVOQ

That was quality! Need more.

Kobal2fr

06-08-2007, 13:16

Man, he really has a knack for video storytelling. That flashback thing with the lone rider trudging through the ruins ? Solid gold... Wonder how he filmed it.

Ciaran

06-08-2007, 15:46

Un- freaking- believable! If that wasn´t amazing then tell me what is.

Vingetorix

06-08-2007, 17:41

...yes..! a great movie....!
the first one of sin329 was awesome too, but this one is even
more impressive..
i posted the link in our Community...

Shahed

06-08-2007, 17:48

Cool, thanks. Do you mean .com or the German forum ?

Vingetorix

06-08-2007, 17:56

I normally write as "Caleb_der_Brecher" in the "Looki-Forum", may that what you called "German-Forum"...
but there are some austrians and swiss-peoples too....
...anyway, everybody is "hungry" for new movies....and every clip finds his mention...:laugh4:

Vingetorix

08-04-2007, 20:30

sorry for double-posting, but maybe this thread needs some reanimation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3zOmu8m3cQ
its not my work, but i like this style!

Ciaran

08-05-2007, 10:38

Well, that was really well done, thanks for that link.

Just a thought, is there any way to download videos from youtube to save them on HD?

hoetje

08-05-2007, 10:56

Great movies all thanks a lot :)

ForgotMyOldNick

08-05-2007, 12:00

Awesome stuff!

Anyone see the end of part 3? I think the creator of those films is trying to tell CA something there lol!

Has anyone got some definitive guides for me in regard to this thread; ( because I really want to make some films of my own, and just don't have time to try and work out everything across the net to do with the process unfortunately...) :
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=89406

Anyway thanks for posting Sinan, I'm off to keep reworking my 'Ultimate Total War' post before bed.

Edit: I found this one last week I think it is an original promotion video, the music is pretty cool except for certain lyrics for me. Anyway it just flows very nicely!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0xyW4YfZhk&mode=related&search=

Vingetorix

08-11-2007, 20:33

...another movie ...this time, my own one..
http://rapidshare.com/files/48361880/ME2-Baden_Mod.avi.html

Ciaran

08-12-2007, 11:33

Have you seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdtffeP9Ug0&mode=related&search=
The recreation of the Stirling battle scene from Braveheart. Not original as in something we´ve never seen before, but nicely done, in my opinion.

Vingetorix

08-14-2007, 05:38

...nice video....the sky very well modified...it gives a deep "third dimension-effect"...progress this work please..!
I have posted now a small archive with my both movies and a little "joke-clip." at filefront...here`s the link :
http://hosted.filefront.com/calebderBrecher

Ciaran

10-01-2007, 14:22

To drag this thread back to the light, Sin329 has fairly recently made a movie depicting the battle of Crecy, I don´t have the youtube link right now, but you can also download it from filefront: http://files.filefront.com/M2TW+Battle+Of+Crecywmv/;8514527;/fileinfo.html

Boyar Son

10-01-2007, 18:08

I'm pretty sure sin329 has a grudge against christian europe!!

Swiss Halberd Pike Landsknecht

10-01-2007, 18:51

very nice videos

I'll download some of the 'full size' versions, as usual youtube's compression often makes video's quality seriously crap (even though it's fast to load, etc)

although that being said I've had many problems with youtube the last few months with firefox, most of the time it's extremely slow and won't load, so I have to use AOL's browser (and even then it doesn't always work(

Ciaran

10-31-2007, 14:45

Once again I have to drag this thread up, as I´ve just discovered that Sin239 has outdone himself once again with his rendition of the battle of Ravenna.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=G1O8IaJ-k0w

An absolutely great depiction of a classical rennaisance era battle with an astoundishing use of the Gettysburg movie soundtrack. An absolute must-have (which, thankfully, is possible due to a filefront link kindly provided by Sin) for any fan of M2TW movies.

Now, if I could only read the chinese opening and closing...

TevashSzat

10-31-2007, 22:39

Very very nice, if the quality was only better...

Ciaran

11-01-2007, 10:37

Well, he does have a link to the download in the info box.

Shahed

11-01-2007, 16:51

OUTSTANDING !

Tamur

11-01-2007, 20:42

if the quality was only better

I'd highly recommend going to that link and downloading the full resolution versions, despite the fact that they're huge files. They're very immersive when they're taking up a large part of your screen.

Someone scripted these out completely. They play like what I had hoped Time Commanders would have looked like in many places. I'm still working on downloading Ravenna, but looking forward to seeing that one full resolution!

Shahed

11-16-2007, 01:41

This is a nice one, it's almost nine minutes, and if you're patient you get to some great kill animations, near perfect. Bit of a tragedy though. Personally someone told me to go up that mountain and I'd be like... no THANKS ! bye bye and enjoy your suicide !

Crummy youtube res: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0yK2PLlGBk

Higher Res D/L: http://www.gerudo.trap17.com/Battle%20of%20Mohacs.mpg

Copperknickers

11-16-2007, 23:51

I think sin329 makes the best movies, CA should employ him! And yet we know nothing about him other than he likes turkey an comes from Japan. Show your self!:hide:

TheLastPrivate

11-19-2007, 07:20

Other than not having the footsteps of the cavalry/infantry (what makes battles epic imo), fantastic video - just superb.

Shahed

11-22-2007, 16:50

BTW that movie is by another guy, ploer... forgot the rest of his nick.

IMO Sin329 does'nt like Turks or something, he's probably Japanese or so the legend goes. I think he just tries a different take on movies since everyone can do Euro faction movies. IMO he's just doing something different, showing another perspective. He's done a great job, he's also produced movies from other games.