Map error

[Red Spot]

have reinstalled RTW as I .. er .. lost some back-up files, however forgat to make a back-up of the regions and settlements text file in the text folder...

now I made a new one and afaik it seems to be ok as it doesnt cause any CTDs, but it keeps giving me a KTM

the map ran fine before and the only change is the textfile I forgat


anyway the error I get from show_err;
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6906/errorue5.th.png (https://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorue5.png)

hope someone can shed some light on this one as I've been trying to find whats wrong for like the last 4 hours and only have been able to turn the KTM into CTD by on purpose making mistakes in text file


the, afaik, correct file;



¬ Names for regions and settlements in my campaign
{Latium} Latium
{Rome} Rome
{Etruria} Etruria
{Arretium} Arretium
{Venetia} Venetia
{Patavium} Patavium
{Liguria} Liguria
{Segesta} Segesta
{Bruttium} Bruttium
{Croton} Croton
{Apulia} Apulia
{Tarentum} Tarentum
{Epirus} Epirus
{Apollonia} Apollonia
{Campania} Campania
{Capua} Capua
{Sicilia_Romanus} Sicilia Romanus
{Messana} Messana
{Sicilia_Graecus} Sicilia Graecus
{Syracuse} Syracuse
{Sardinia} Sardinia
{Caralis} Caralis
{Byzacium_N} Byzacium N
{Thapsus_N} Thapsus N
{Byzacium_S} Byzacium S
{Thapsus_S} Thapsus S
{Phoenicia_N} Phoenicia N
{Sidon_N} Sidon N
{Phoenicia_S} Phoenicia S
{Sidon_S} Sidon S
{Sahara_N} Sahara N
{Nepte_N} Nepte N
{Sahara_S} Sahara S
{Nepte_S} Nepte S
{Africa_NW} Africa NW
{Carthage_NW} Carthage NW
{Africa_NE} Africa NE
{Carthage_NE} Carthage NE
{Africa_SW} Africa SW
{Carthage_SW} Carthage SW
{Africa_SE} Africa SE
{Carthage_SE} Carthage SE
{Cilicia_NW} Cilicia NW
{Tarsus_NW} Tarsus NW
{Cilicia_NE} Cilicia NE
{Tarsus_NE} Tarsus NE
{Cilicia_SW} Cilicia SW
{Tarsus_SW} Tarsus SW
{Cilicia_SE} Cilicia SE
{Tarsus_SE} Tarsus SE
{Syria_NW} Syria NW
{Antioch_NW} Antioch NW
{Syria_NE} Syria NE
{Antioch_NE} Antioch NE
{Syria_SW} Syria SW
{Antioch_SW} Antioch SW
{Syria_SE} Syria SE
{Antioch_SE} Antioch SE
{Thebais_NW} Thebais NW
{Thebes_NW} Thebes NW
{Thebais_NE} Thebais NE
{Thebes_NE} Thebes NE
{Thebais_SW} Thebais SW
{Thebes_SW} Thebes SW
{Thebais_SE} Thebais SE
{Thebes_SE} Thebes SE
{Sinai_NW} Sinai NW
{Petra_NW} Petra NW
{Sinai_NE} Sinai NE
{Petra_NE} Petra NE
{Sinai_SW} Sinai SW
{Petra_SW} Petra SW
{Sinai_SE} Sinai SE
{Petra_SE} Petra SE
{Colchis_NW} Colchis NW
{Kotais_NW} Kotais NW
{Colchis_NE} Colchis NE
{Kotais_NE} Kotais NE
{Colchis_SW} Colchis SW
{Kotais_SW} Kotais SW
{Colchis_SE} Colchis SE
{Kotais_SE} Kotais SE
{Media_NW} Media NW
{Arsakia_NW} Arsakia NW
{Media_NE} Media NE
{Arsakia_NE} Arsakia NE
{Media_SW} Media SW
{Arsakia_SW} Arsakia SW
{Media_SE} Media SE
{Arsakia_SE} Arsakia SE
{Sahara_NW} Sahara NW
{Jeruzalem_NW} Jeruzalem NW
{Sahara_NE} Sahara NE
{Jeruzalem_NE} Jeruzalem NE
{Sahara_SW} Sahara SW
{Jeruzalem_SW} Jeruzalem SW
{Sahara_SE} Sahara SE
{Jeruzalem_SE} Jeruzalem SE
{Ionia_NW} Ionia NW
{Sardis_NW} Sardis NW
{Ionia_NE} Ionia NE
{Sardis_NE} Sardis NE
{Ionia_SW} Ionia SW
{Sardis_SW} Sardis SW
{Ionia_SE} Ionia SE
{Sardis_SE} Sardis SE
{Mauretania_NW} Mauretania NW
{Tingi_NW} Tingi NW
{Mauretania_NE} Mauretania NE
{Tingi_NE} Tingi NE
{Mauretania_SW} Mauretania SW
{Tingi_SW} Tingi SW
{Mauretania_SE} Mauretania SE
{Tingi_SE} Tingi SE
{Tribus_Sakae_NW} Tribus Sakae NW
{Sakae_NW} Sakae NW
{Tribus_Sakae_NE} Tribus Sakae NE
{Sakae_NE} Sakae NE
{Tribus_Sakae_SW} Tribus Sakae SW
{Sakae_SW} Sakae SW
{Tribus_Sakae_SE} Tribus Sakae SE
{Sakae_SE} Sakae SE
{Tribus_Alanni_NW} Tribus Alanni NW
{Alanni_NW} Alanni NW
{Tribus_Alanni_NE} Tribus Alanni NE
{Alanni_NE} Alanni NE
{Tribus_Alanni_SW} Tribus Alanni SW
{Alanni_SW} Alanni SW
{Tribus_Alanni_SE} Tribus Alanni SE
{Alanni_SE} Alanni SE
{Tribus_Getae_NW} Tribus Getae NW
{Getae_NW} Getae NW
{Tribus_Getae_NE} Tribus Getae NE
{Getae_NE} Getae NE
{Tribus_Getae_SW} Tribus Getae SW
{Getae_SW} Getae SW
{Tribus_Getae_SE} Tribus Getae SE
{Getae_SE} Getae SE
{Tribus_Sarmatae_NW} Tribus Sarmatae NW
{Sarmatae_NW} Sarmatae NW
{Tribus_Sarmatae_NE} Tribus Sarmatae NE
{Sarmatae_NE} Sarmatae NE
{Tribus_Sarmatae_SW} Tribus Sarmatae SW
{Sarmatae_SW} Sarmatae SW
{Tribus_Sarmatae_SE} Tribus Sarmatae SE
{Sarmatae_SE} Sarmatae SE
{Tribus_Saxones_NW} Tribus Saxones NW
{Bordesholm_NW} Bordesholm NW
{Tribus_Saxones_NE} Tribus Saxones NE
{Bordesholm_NE} Bordesholm NE
{Tribus_Saxones_SW} Tribus Saxones SW
{Bordesholm_SW} Bordesholm SW
{Tribus_Saxones_SE} Tribus Saxones SE
{Bordesholm_SE} Bordesholm SE
{Tribus_Silurii_NW} Tribus Silurii NW
{Deva_NW} Deva NW
{Tribus_Silurii_NE} Tribus Silurii NE
{Deva_NE} Deva NE
{Tribus_Silurii_SW} Tribus Silurii SW
{Deva_SW} Deva SW
{Tribus_Silurii_SE} Tribus Silurii SE
{Deva_SE} Deva SE
{Tribus_Chattii_NW} Tribus Chattii NW
{Damme_NW} Damme NW
{Tribus_Chattii_NE} Tribus Chattii NE
{Damme_NE} Damme NE
{Tribus_Chattii_SW} Tribus Chattii SW
{Damme_SW} Damme SW
{Tribus_Chattii_SE} Tribus Chattii SE
{Damme_SE} Damme SE
{Tribus_Hibernia_NW} Tribus Hibernia NW
{Tara_NW} Tara NW
{Tribus_Hibernia_NE} Tribus Hibernia NE
{Tara_NE} Tara NE
{Tribus_Hibernia_SW} Tribus Hibernia SW
{Tara_SW} Tara SW
{Tribus_Hibernia_SE} Tribus Hibernia SE
{Tara_SE} Tara SE
{Tribus_Maeotis_NW} Tribus Maeotis NW
{Tanais_NW} Tanais NW
{Tribus_Maeotis_NE} Tribus Maeotis NE
{Tanais_NE} Tanais NE
{Tribus_Maeotis_SW} Tribus Maeotis SW
{Tanais_SW} Tanais SW
{Tribus_Maeotis_SE} Tribus Maeotis SE
{Tanais_SE} Tanais SE
{Bosphorus_W} Bosphorus W
{Chersonesos_W} Chersonesos W
{Bosphorus_E} Bosphorus E
{Chersonesos_E} Chersonesos E
{Armorica_W} Armorica W
{Condate_Redonum_W} Condate Redonum W
{Armorica_E} Armorica E
{Condate_Redonum_E} Condate Redonum E
{Lusitania_NW} Lusitania NW
{Scallabis_NW} Scallabis NW
{Lusitania_NE} Lusitania NE
{Scallabis_NE} Scallabis NE
{Lusitania_SW} Lusitania SW
{Scallabis_SW} Scallabis SW
{Lusitania_SE} Lusitania SE
{Scallabis_SE} Scallabis SE
{Baetica_NW} Baetica NW
{Corduba_NW} Corduba NW
{Baetica_NE} Baetica NE
{Corduba_NE} Corduba NE
{Baetica_SW} Baetica SW
{Corduba_SW} Corduba SW
{Baetica_SE} Baetica SE
{Corduba_SE} Corduba SE
{Narbonensis_NW} Narbonensis NW
{Narbo_Martius_NW} Narbo Martius NW
{Narbonensis_NE} Narbonensis NE
{Narbo_Martius_NE} Narbo Martius NE
{Narbonensis_SW} Narbonensis SW
{Narbo_Martius_SW} Narbo Martius SW
{Narbonensis_SE} Narbonensis SE
{Narbo_Martius_SE} Narbo Martius SE
{Lugdinensis_NW} Lugdinensis NW
{Lugdunum_NW} Lugdunum NW
{Lugdinensis_NE} Lugdinensis NE
{Lugdunum_NE} Lugdunum NE
{Lugdinensis_SW} Lugdinensis SW
{Lugdunum_SW} Lugdunum SW
{Lugdinensis_SE} Lugdinensis SE
{Lugdunum_SE} Lugdunum SE
{Aquitania_NW} Aquitania NW
{Lemonum_NW} Lemonum NW
{Aquitania_NE} Aquitania NE
{Lemonum_NE} Lemonum NE
{Aquitania_SW} Aquitania SW
{Lemonum_SW} Lemonum SW
{Aquitania_SE} Aquitania SE
{Lemonum_SE} Lemonum SE
{Barbaria_Superior_NW} Barbaria Superior NW
{Batavodurum_NW} Batavodurum NW
{Barbaria_Superior_NE} Barbaria Superior NE
{Batavodurum_NE} Batavodurum NE
{Barbaria_Superior_SW} Barbaria Superior SW
{Batavodurum_SW} Batavodurum SW
{Barbaria_Superior_SE} Barbaria Superior SE
{Batavodurum_SE} Batavodurum SE
{Barbaria_Inferior_NW} Barbaria Inferior NW
{Trier_NW} Trier NW
{Barbaria_Inferior_NE} Barbaria Inferior NE
{Trier_NE} Trier NE
{Barbaria_Inferior_SW} Barbaria Inferior SW
{Trier_SW} Trier SW
{Barbaria_Inferior_SE} Barbaria Inferior SE
{Trier_SE} Trier SE
{Agri_Decumates_NW} Agri Decumates NW
{Mogontiacum_NW} Mogontiacum NW
{Agri_Decumates_NE} Agri Decumates NE
{Mogontiacum_NE} Mogontiacum NE
{Agri_Decumates_SW} Agri Decumates SW
{Mogontiacum_SW} Mogontiacum SW
{Agri_Decumates_SE} Agri Decumates SE
{Mogontiacum_SE} Mogontiacum SE
{Pripet_NW} Pripet NW
{Venedae_NW} Venedae NW
{Pripet_NE} Pripet NE
{Venedae_NE} Venedae NE
{Pripet_SW} Pripet SW
{Venedae_SW} Venedae SW
{Pripet_SE} Pripet SE
{Venedae_SE} Venedae SE
{Locus_Gepidae_NW} Locus Gepidae NW
{Domus_Dulcis_NW} Domus Dulcis NW
{Locus_Gepidae_NE} Locus Gepidae NE
{Domus_Dulcis_NE} Domus Dulcis NE
{Locus_Gepidae_SW} Locus Gepidae SW
{Domus_Dulcis_SW} Domus Dulcis SW
{Locus_Gepidae_SE} Locus Gepidae SE
{Domus_Dulcis_SE} Domus Dulcis SE
{Laconia_W} Laconia W
{Sparta_W} Sparta W
{Laconia_E} Laconia E
{Sparta_E} Sparta E
{Attica_NW} Attica NW
{Athens_NW} Athens NW
{Attica_NE} Attica NE
{Athens_NE} Athens NE
{Attica_SW} Attica SW
{Athens_SW} Athens SW
{Attica_SE} Attica SE
{Athens_SE} Athens SE
{Peloponnesus_NW} Peloponnesus NW
{Corinth_NW} Corinth NW
{Peloponnesus_NE} Peloponnesus NE
{Corinth_NE} Corinth NE
{Peloponnesus_SW} Peloponnesus SW
{Corinth_SW} Corinth SW
{Peloponnesus_SE} Peloponnesus SE
{Corinth_SE} Corinth SE
{Aetolia_NW} Aetolia NW
{Thermon_NW} Thermon NW
{Aetolia_NE} Aetolia NE
{Thermon_NE} Thermon NE
{Aetolia_SW} Aetolia SW
{Thermon_SW} Thermon SW
{Aetolia_SE} Aetolia SE
{Thermon_SE} Thermon SE
{Thessalia_NW} Thessalia NW
{Larissa_NW} Larissa NW
{Thessalia_NE} Thessalia NE
{Larissa_NE} Larissa NE
{Thessalia_SW} Thessalia SW
{Larissa_SW} Larissa SW
{Thessalia_SE} Thessalia SE
{Larissa_SE} Larissa SE
{Paionia_NW} Paionia NW
{Bylazora_NW} Bylazora NW
{Paionia_NE} Paionia NE
{Bylazora_NE} Bylazora NE
{Paionia_SW} Paionia SW
{Bylazora_SW} Bylazora SW
{Paionia_SE} Paionia SE
{Bylazora_SE} Bylazora SE
{Propontis_NW} Propontis NW
{Byzantium_NW} Byzantium NW
{Propontis_NE} Propontis NE
{Byzantium_NE} Byzantium NE
{Propontis_SW} Propontis SW
{Byzantium_SW} Byzantium SW
{Propontis_SE} Propontis SE
{Byzantium_SE} Byzantium SE
{Dalmatia_NW} Dalmatia NW
{Salona_NW} Salona NW
{Dalmatia_NE} Dalmatia NE
{Salona_NE} Salona NE
{Dalmatia_SW} Dalmatia SW
{Salona_SW} Salona SW
{Dalmatia_SE} Dalmatia SE
{Salona_SE} Salona SE
{Pannonia_NW} Pannonia NW
{Aquincum_NW} Aquincum NW
{Pannonia_NE} Pannonia NE
{Aquincum_NE} Aquincum NE
{Pannonia_SW} Pannonia SW
{Aquincum_SW} Aquincum SW
{Pannonia_SE} Pannonia SE
{Aquincum_SE} Aquincum SE
{Illyria_NW} Illyria NW
{Segestica_NW} Segestica NW
{Illyria_NE} Illyria NE
{Segestica_NE} Segestica NE
{Illyria_SW} Illyria SW
{Segestica_SW} Segestica SW
{Illyria_SE} Illyria SE
{Segestica_SE} Segestica SE
{Bithynia_NW} Bithynia NW
{Nicomedia_NW} Nicomedia NW
{Bithynia_NE} Bithynia NE
{Nicomedia_NE} Nicomedia NE
{Bithynia_SW} Bithynia SW
{Nicomedia_SW} Nicomedia SW
{Bithynia_SE} Bithynia SE
{Nicomedia_SE} Nicomedia SE
{Phrygia_NW} Phrygia NW
{Pergamum_NW} Pergamum NW
{Phrygia_NE} Phrygia NE
{Pergamum_NE} Pergamum NE
{Phrygia_SW} Phrygia SW
{Pergamum_SW} Pergamum SW
{Phrygia_SE} Phrygia SE
{Pergamum_SE} Pergamum SE
{Lycia_NW} Lycia NW
{Halicarnasus_NW} Halicarnasus NW
{Lycia_NE} Lycia NE
{Halicarnasus_NE} Halicarnasus NE
{Lycia_SW} Lycia SW
{Halicarnasus_SW} Halicarnasus SW
{Lycia_SE} Lycia SE
{Halicarnasus_SE} Halicarnasus SE
{Crete_NW} Crete NW
{Kydonia_NW} Kydonia NW
{Crete_NE} Crete NE
{Kydonia_NE} Kydonia NE
{Crete_SW} Crete SW
{Kydonia_SW} Kydonia SW
{Crete_SE} Crete SE
{Kydonia_SE} Kydonia SE
{Rhodos_NW} Rhodos NW
{Rhodes_NW} Rhodes NW
{Rhodos_NE} Rhodos NE
{Rhodes_NE} Rhodes NE
{Rhodos_SW} Rhodos SW
{Rhodes_SW} Rhodes SW
{Rhodos_SE} Rhodos SE
{Rhodes_SE} Rhodes SE
{Baliares_NW} Baliares NW
{Palma_NW} Palma NW
{Baliares_NE} Baliares NE
{Palma_NE} Palma NE
{Baliares_SW} Baliares SW
{Palma_SW} Palma SW
{Baliares_SE} Baliares SE
{Palma_SE} Palma SE



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[Makanyane]

The campaign_regions_and_settlement_names.txt file in data/text can be a pain in the .....

For some reason that must be to do with the save type or hidden formatting it often doesn't seem to like you trying to write one from scratch. Or even sometimes typing in chunks from scratch. I got fed up with trying to work out why and just copy a working version like imperial_campaign_regions_and_settlement_names.txt, re-name it copy and paste chunks of the file and overwrite my info into existing brackets etc! Try copying and pasting your info to the bottom of a copy of an existing one and see if that works. Or using copy of existing one overwrite info for first few regions with your names and see if that gets you off error for region (0)

Only flaw in this suggestion is I think error you normally get when it can't read the text file is " can't find region .... in region DB ", but if you really have got rest of map files the same as before I can't think of anything else

(PS if anyone else knows why that file is difficult to edit could they please explain!)

[Squid]

To me that errors looks like the error you'd get if one of the faction listed as a region "owner" faction in descr_regions doesn't appear in descr_stat. So if the macedon faction wasn't listed as playable, unlockable or unplayable in descr_stat, but is listed in descr_regions I'd expect an error like this.

[Red Spot]

Squid that was exactly what "seemed" to be the problem ...


I had, but succesfully ran so before, the senate as faction creator in the descr_regions file as creator of all regions but didnt use it in the descr_strat file ..

I altered it to the greek_cities wich is in the descr_strat file and I got an other error about not being able to create settlement at line 860 wich was the first settlement in the descr_strat file

So I made sure the text file got the same order in regions as I had in the descr_regions file and all my problems are gone ...

better yet I now can pull of what I couldnt before, run a campaign game with no Roman faction whatsoever ... (with just 5 factions I made turn 20 without any visible problems)


anyway, that'll teach me putting back images/reinstalling without taking good care I made a back-up of everything

Do apreciate the feedback/help guys ..;)
(or might it girl Makanyane....?)


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[Makanyane]

Do apreciate the feedback/help guys ..;)
(or might it girl Makanyane....?)
Oh well I was completely wrong again - curious why it worked before with faction creator not in strat? :dizzy2:

But yeah, girl, and the relevant bit is probably the Makanyane, prefix but it's from a language I'm not that good on...

[Red Spot]

maybe its one of those things that only pops up if you push things, like I'm pushing the max. of about anything with this map (its not like its the first weird thing I uncover by making this map ..:P)


In my language, Dutch, you'd translate it to "Mom can yane", the yane could at most be a name as it doesnt mean a thing but the first part pretty much adds up .... "Mom can .." ..;)


Edit;
Seems the faction-creator isnt relevent, I can now go back to setting the senate as faction-creator since I have lined up the regions/settlements as they appear in the descr_regions file, so I guess that that is .. er .. "the rule" here, keep it in the same order as descr_regions ...
/edit

Edit2;
The faction-creator setting doesnt seem to matter for loading a game, it does matter for keeping a game going!!
when I use the greek_cities as faction-creator I can run a game without any issues (at least not up to 20-ish turns), but when I make it the senate the first rebel army that pops-up causes a CTD (explains why rebels kept causing me CTDs in a provincial campaign)
/edit


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[Monkwarrior]

The campaign_regions_and_settlement_names.txt file in data/text can be a pain in the .....

For some reason that must be to do with the save type or hidden formatting it often doesn't seem to like you trying to write one from scratch. Or even sometimes typing in chunks from scratch. I got fed up with trying to work out why and just copy a working version like imperial_campaign_regions_and_settlement_names.txt, re-name it copy and paste chunks of the file and overwrite my info into existing brackets etc! Try copying and pasting your info to the bottom of a copy of an existing one and see if that works. Or using copy of existing one overwrite info for first few regions with your names and see if that gets you off error for region (0)

Only flaw in this suggestion is I think error you normally get when it can't read the text file is " can't find region .... in region DB ", but if you really have got rest of map files the same as before I can't think of anything else

(PS if anyone else knows why that file is difficult to edit could they please explain!)
Several (if not all) the files in text folder behave "strange" in some aspects. For example, I cannot compare them with KDiff3, as only symbols appear instead of normal text. This doesn't happen with any other txt file. :dizzy2:
https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/Monkwarrior/th_KDiff_fallo.jpg (https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/Monkwarrior/KDiff_fallo.jpg)