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KafirChobee
05-25-2007, 19:16
Seems the lone gunman theory is in jepoardy ... again.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/25/tech/main2851464.shtml

It is just one of those curious things. More tests are required. Is just one of those things that will not die.

Personall, after watching that ABC production using computer generated action of the assassination (despite seeing all the flaws in it), I figured that was that.

Though the misplacement of JFK's brain always bothered me. I mean, how do you lose a brain? That a real pathologist wasnot involved in the autopsy, and all the unnamed military attending still seems a bit weird.

The entire affair could and should have been handled in a manner of respect for our dead President, and with the purpose to assure it was thoroughly above board. Then this entire affair might have passed into the past where it belongs.

More's the shame. Seems some of our officials have always been incompetent.

Gawain of Orkeny
05-25-2007, 19:18
You do realise that the Warren commision and the later investigation by congress do not match either. I saw it on the history channel the other night and they said congress found two shooters. Although they didnt word it that way.

Don Corleone
05-25-2007, 19:20
How can you possibly know that, Gawain? Every time the Warren commission's scheduled release date comes up, Congress votes to extend it again. I think the next possible viewing is in 2038. (Was originally 2013, 50 years after it was issued, then it got extened by another 25 after that).

Gawain of Orkeny
05-25-2007, 19:21
How can you possibly know that, Gawain

I told you I saw it on the History Channel I dont KNOW if their right.

Don Corleone
05-25-2007, 19:25
OHHHH. Sorry, I wasn't reading closely. The History Channel probably wasn't commenting on the report itself (they can't, it's not just classified, it's eyes-only). They must have been commenting on the publicly announced conclusions that the Warren Commission made AFTER they delivered the report.

KafirChobee
05-25-2007, 19:32
2038? Are you serious? I mean, the witnesses are dead (many of the primaries within a few years of the assassination itself - and those on the Warren Commission are mostly gone as well, So, whom is left to protect? The American public?

Tran
05-25-2007, 19:33
Well, you can always trust the KGB (http://itwasjohnson.impiousdigest.com/KGB.gif)

Lemur
05-25-2007, 19:36
I blame the Freemasons (https://youtube.com/watch?v=n-cCfZrkCFI).

HoreTore
05-26-2007, 12:38
2038? Are you serious? I mean, the witnesses are dead (many of the primaries within a few years of the assassination itself - and those on the Warren Commission are mostly gone as well, So, whom is left to protect? The American public?

The only answers I can think of, are foreign powers or big companies... Perhaps political parties as well, though not likely as it's likely to only affect one, and then the other would want it out...

Gawain of Orkeny
05-26-2007, 13:36
You left out suspect #1 and 2 the mafia and the CIA.

Zaknafien
05-26-2007, 13:45
I think its very likely the CIA and vice president were responsible. Kennedy was seen as a threat to national security since he was so nice to the commies.

Devastatin Dave
05-26-2007, 13:46
It's all Bush's fault.

KukriKhan
05-26-2007, 14:02
It's all Bush's fault.

I blame Blair.

LeftEyeNine
05-26-2007, 14:17
Kennedian Genocide.

Guess who (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/85/Tavuk_doner.JPG/200px-Tavuk_doner.JPG) had done that.

Gawain of Orkeny
05-26-2007, 14:33
I think its very likely the CIA and vice president were responsible. Kennedy was seen as a threat to national security since he was so nice to the commies.

Much of the military was pissed about the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Its kind of funny though calling him nice to commies considering the Cuban missile crises though I know that he was accusssed of it.

Zaknafien
05-26-2007, 14:36
by 'nice' i mean willing to talk.

Gawain of Orkeny
05-26-2007, 14:50
Well he certainly talked to them about the missiles. Is that what upset them ? :laugh4:

Zaknafien
05-26-2007, 15:04
well, not to mention Kennedy wasnt a fan of theirs.


Kennedy said to his collaborator Clark Clifford (shortly after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion) that, "Something very bad is going on within the CIA and I want to know what it is. I want to shred the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the four winds."[41][42]

Bijo
05-26-2007, 17:13
Sounds logical that he was... "removed" because of that, Zaknafien. His removal would benefit quite a bit of entities that havehad the power too to remove him.

Kralizec
05-26-2007, 17:29
Kennedian Genocide.

Guess who (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/85/Tavuk_doner.JPG/200px-Tavuk_doner.JPG) had done that.

Hmmm, Kebab :2thumbsup:

LeftEyeNine
05-26-2007, 20:41
Hmmm, Kebab :2thumbsup:

That's Döner :whip:

Kralizec
05-26-2007, 20:42
Donner Kebab? (http://members.lycos.nl/rubenvandermeer/hpbimg/Donner%20Kebab.jpg)

(Dutch political joke)

LeftEyeNine
05-26-2007, 23:20
:laugh4:

UltraWar
05-27-2007, 22:04
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/Shooter2.5/Diagram3.jpg

This is where each shot happened. Of course, the most logical solution is that John F. Kennedy was shot by his older version. This is obvious due to the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald only fired at least one bullet, but not at that exact time. The fact that the older JFK shot his younger self is due to the fact that in a alternative reality, he survived the shootings as Oswald completely missed or was interrupted for some reason. This, of course meant that JFK went down a road of corruption and in a plan to reverse this, he plotted to hijack a time machine to stop this event taking place. Armed with a PSG-1 sniper rifle, he plotted his own death. This, of course, would have some severe consequences later, but he didn't worry about that. Knowing that Oswald was still in the Book Depository preparing. After noticing the car in which his younger self was driving in, he ran to the Grassy Knoll at the Dealey Plaza and positioned himself for his fate. After seeing the car about to pass, he drew up his sniper rifle, and let off the rounds which would seal his fate. After the deed was done, he walked off into the sunset, slowly disappearing due to the fact he had killed himself. This, my friends, is the TRUE and ONLY logical explanation into the assassination.

KafirChobee
05-28-2007, 01:50
Actually, the new info is about new forensic methodology not available during the Warren Commission era.

But, concerning the bullets recovered - and the "magic bullet":
http://www.jfk-info.com/fragment.htm

What was left out of the Warren Report, maybe of as much interest as what is in it.

Gawain of Orkeny
05-28-2007, 01:58
Actually, the new info is about new forensic methodology not available during the Warren Commission era.

Thats pretty much what the show on the history channel was about. They were saying if the original investigation hadnt been so botched and so much evidence destroyed they probably could know for sure today. I couldnt believe it when I saw them cleaning the limo as soon as they removed Kennedy or moments there after.

discovery1
05-28-2007, 02:10
This is where each shot happened. Of course, the most logical solution is that John F. Kennedy was shot by his older version. This is obvious due to the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald only fired at least one bullet, but not at that exact time. The fact that the older JFK shot his younger self is due to the fact that in a alternative reality, he survived the shootings as Oswald completely missed or was interrupted for some reason. This, of course meant that JFK went down a road of corruption and in a plan to reverse this, he plotted to hijack a time machine to stop this event taking place. Armed with a PSG-1 sniper rifle, he plotted his own death. This, of course, would have some severe consequences later, but he didn't worry about that. Knowing that Oswald was still in the Book Depository preparing. After noticing the car in which his younger self was driving in, he ran to the Grassy Knoll at the Dealey Plaza and positioned himself for his fate. After seeing the car about to pass, he drew up his sniper rifle, and let off the rounds which would seal his fate. After the deed was done, he walked off into the sunset, slowly disappearing due to the fact he had killed himself. This, my friends, is the TRUE and ONLY logical explanation into the assassination.

Wasn't that from an episode of 'Red Dwarf'?

Vaguely on topic, there was a thread in the arena about a game called JFK reloaded. Seemed like the point, as far as the makers were concerned, was to demonstrate that it could not have been one man, although all I did was get JFK's car to jump the grassy knoll.

Ronin
05-28-2007, 12:57
I find Seinfeld's reenactment of the event to be quiet elucidative.....

what I wonder is how the warren commission managed to present their findings with a straight face....magic bullet my ass :book:

now THAT, is one magic loogie!!! :laugh4:

Zaknafien
05-28-2007, 14:06
I remember that episode of Quantum Leap where he went back as Oswald... hahaha

Major Robert Dump
05-28-2007, 15:55
The secret service meat shields who normally rode on the back of the car were called off at the turn before the shooting. You can see them in the film reacting to this order in a typical WTF fashion. It was an inside job, and sealing the recordsfor so long is merely an attempt to hope the sting has faded because all the people who ever gave a crap are now in a nursing home or better yet dead.

KafirChobee
05-30-2007, 01:15
Dump, you're right of course. Once all of us that still remember where we were when we first heard JKF was shot, and when Oswald was - are dead. Then maybe all the information will be released.

Still, I understand that some of the information concerning Linclon's assassination are still classified - so, who knows. As someone said, if a political family was involved there will always be a reason not to release all the information.