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amoebe
05-31-2007, 14:56
I read before that in siege autocalc treats it as a field battle, but this is jfor me really an example for how screwed it is. I was sieged in antioch (huge city with ballista towers) by about 1500 egyptians (mostly spearmen). My army was 3 missile units, several spear and a few bodyguards.
Just for the heck of it I decided to press start battle without changing anything and letting it run while I went to take a shower. Turns into a heroic victory - 54 losses. I load, autocalc: a clear defeat with over 600 losses.

:inquisitive:



In the last 3 campaigns I don't believe I performed a single (attacking) siege in a real battle as autocalc always does the trick.

Mithradates
05-31-2007, 15:11
If u are defending a siege i find when the enemy win even when you have a fairly decent garrison they often win without taking sunstantial loss which makes fighting holding battles against the Mongols difficult.

Kobal2fr
05-31-2007, 15:20
I read before that in siege autocalc treats it as a field battle, but this is jfor me really an example for how screwed it is. I was sieged in antioch (huge city with ballista towers) by about 1500 egyptians (mostly spearmen). My army was 3 missile units, several spear and a few bodyguards.
Just for the heck of it I decided to press start battle without changing anything and letting it run while I went to take a shower. Turns into a heroic victory - 54 losses. I load, autocalc: a clear defeat with over 600 losses.

:inquisitive:



In the last 3 campaigns I don't believe I performed a single (attacking) siege in a real battle as autocalc always does the trick.

Oh, so you want to have your cake and eat it too, eh ? Fight the defenses but autocalc the attacks ?
Cheese factor : intense. :laugh4: :clown:

Caliburn
05-31-2007, 15:36
Well, the way I see it, I would win most of the battles anyway, but just don't have the time to do it more than half the time (that would be defence) as framerates in sieges are abysmal, and they make playing assaults feel like driving a hot nail through my temple. I got so tired with the endless siege battles in Rome, so why not? it's after all meant to be fun and not feel like trying to dig a well with a plastic toy shovel, having to fight through 2 rings of defence while the framerates go down to new lows and the enemy doesn't really know how to defend itself. Defences are a bit more fun as they can be dealt with so that the framerates stay at decent level (by not looking towards the city/castle).

The same goes with pre-1.2 inquisitor smashing with 8 military units. Perhaps I just like cheesecake more than dry bread with nails baked into it. It's a fun game, but I still prefer the field battles.

amoebe
05-31-2007, 15:42
Oh, so you want to have your cake and eat it too, eh ? Fight the defenses but autocalc the attacks ?
Cheese factor : intense. :laugh4: :clown:

I don't totally get your post..

I'd much rather have it the other way around - having to fight sieges that I start and skipping those endless suicide attakcs by computers. Mainly because lately I've been playing non-expansive style.

crpcarrot
05-31-2007, 15:42
thats a not the games fault its your rigs

autocalcing seiges always game wiered results but i always thought it was in favour of the attacker right?

but int he example u gave in the actual battle it could have been thet ther seige equipemnt got destroyed and they just withdrew. how would u factor that into autocalc?