what are the faction you never played so far? [Archive]

Obelics

06-08-2007, 17:53

Im curious, i have the mod from 0.72, and i played it a lot, now i noticed there are some faction i never played, and i never tryed too, why? well, i dont know, but im curious to know other experienced player faction that they haven't played yet.

here's mine:
Ptolemaioi: total 0 minutes spent.
Baktria: 0
Seleucids: 0
Makedonia: 0
Epeiros: 0
Getai: few turns
Arverni: few turns but played Aedui a lot.
Casse: few turns.
Saba:very few turns
Armenia:very few turns

from the list ive understood, im not so fascinated by the successors (now that i think on, the faction that i never thought to play in EB, neither in RTW, neither in other mods, was Makedonia, really it has the smallest appeal on me, cant say why, the second faction on the list of the smallest appeal is Ptolemaioi i have to say)
while im more a Easterns/Latin/Nomads/Barbarian/KH/Semitic kind of guy...:laugh4:

just curious on others players' list, you can discover somethink about yourself!:inquisitive:

spirit_of_rob

06-08-2007, 17:56

i play Romans Carthage and the Hellenistics. eastern and "barbarian" factions dont interest me they dont fit my battle tactics

blacksnail

06-08-2007, 18:04

Ptolemaioi was a very fun game for me in 0.74, aside from the Sand War with Carthage. With the Saba now I imagine it would be even more of a challenge. There is a lot of territory to cover so you really need to strategize turns ahead of time and figure out what you're willing to lose if it comes down to that.

Aranor

06-08-2007, 18:04

Getai, Getai and only Getai. I love their mix of troops. I dont ever spend any time playing another faction, even when I am researching for EBCIV!:sweatdrop:

Matic

06-08-2007, 18:14

Pahlav, Carthage, and most of the Successors :shame:. I've played them but never more than a few (10-80) turns. Barbarians and some of the eastern kingdoms really fit my style of warfare :beam:.

Redmeth

06-08-2007, 18:23

I only played Romans, Casse and Sauromatae (completed a campaign with the Casse and will complete my Sauromatae one in the coming weeks, the Romani one ended in ~200 with a CTD in 0.8). Tried the Lusitans but after playing the Casse I got lured by the steppes. I\m waiting for 1.0 to play a great Getai campaign.
I never found the Greek factions or the Successors interesting so far, I find phalanx vs phalanx warfare boring, but I will play a campaign with one of them in 0.9 which will hopefully be released in July (just a hunch).

Obelics

06-08-2007, 18:40

Strange, me too think the successors a bit boring, but not the KH, that i played really a lot (in 0.74), pheraphs because it has not uber phalanx? (anyway in my case, it is somehtink more related with the appeal it has on me, not related with the game mechanics)

Me too i have planned to start a getai campaign in the 1.0

it happens to me that every new EB build, i restart a new campaign from one of the same 4/5 favorite factions... and i dont go to see what's new in some of the other factions... pheraphs it is the mod that is too huge...

Usually as it appear a new version of the mod, the first think i go to check, is if there is somethink new to Chartage, Pahlav, Rome, Sauromate, Lusitania, Gauls or KH and then start a new campaign with one of the 4/5 favorite factions.

Palasta

06-08-2007, 18:50

Only played the Romans so far. And I dont want to play with any other as long as i havent finished the roman campaign. :inquisitive:

d'Arthez

06-08-2007, 19:20

Seleukids: campaign in 0.80.
Baktria: campaigns in 0.80, 0.81
Pahlava: a couple of turns only.
Armenia: never.
Pontos: never.
Ptolemies: campaign in 0.80
Saba: couple of turns.
Epeiros: about 60 turns.
KH: campaign in 0.80
Makedon: campaign in 0.80
Getai: campaign in 0.81a, almost completed, dead because of persistent CTDs.
Sweboz: never
Casse: never
Aedui & Averni: couple of turns
Lusotannan: half a campaign
Carthies: never
Roman: campaign in 0.80 and 0.81av2.

Next campaign will be a Sauro campaign. Had enough of the "civilized" factions.

Bonny

06-08-2007, 19:22

I have never played any of the nomad factions including Pahlava.
Roma, Koinon, Baktria, Karthadastim and the barbarians ai ave played only abit
i almost entirely played Makedonian Campaigns since the relase of 0.72.

I want to play the Lusotanann next, I really like their units.

Kepper

06-08-2007, 19:48

I haven´t play:
Saka
Pahlava
Sauromatae
I have started and new campaign it Baktria they are my favorite faction.
My last as end at CTD,

Moros

06-08-2007, 19:48

The ones I haven't played as yet:
Saka and saba (only for a few turns).

I guess I'm almost there.

L.C.Cinna

06-08-2007, 20:23

hmmm haven't played any of the eastern factions yet. the whole horsearcher action is not my thing, although I have to admit I use them more often now as support than I did before.

Mainly played the Romans, atm playing a campaign with Makedonia and I have to say I like it. Had some tough fighting until I controlled Greece and Southern Italy. I'm now at peace with the Romans and started to expand into Asia Minor. The Seleukides send REALLY good stacks at me with all the best units they can gather and I'm having some great battles.

Waiting for 1.0 to play with Pontus and I'd like to try Armenia as well later on.

Started a campaign with the Ptolies but got bored pretty soon, same with the AS.

The barbarians and KH don't attract me at all, don't know why actually, not that they are not great factions but I just don't feel like playing with them.

The Celtic Viking

06-08-2007, 20:32

The ones I haven't played yet: Any faction on the east side of Epeiros with the exception of Baktria once. Every faction on the west side of Epeiros has had a go at least once.

I would like to play as the Ptolemaioi some time too, but I just can't deal with their campaign map UI. I'm too lazy to change back to the old vanilla style too, so I guess I'll just have to blame myself. I just pray that Saba doesn't use the same, so that I can play them with no harm when my computer works again.

Thaatu

06-08-2007, 20:48

I've played with Casse, Aedui, Arvernii, Sweboz, Carthage, Romans, Epirus, Macedon, KH, Seleucids, Ptolemaics, Parthia, Bactria and Saka. Still missing Lusotania, Getai, Sarmatia, Pontus, Hayasdan and Saba. Pretty obvious to say I have never gotten past 190bc.

Mordecai

06-08-2007, 20:59

Factions I have not yet played.
- Aedui
-Averni
-Casse
- Lusitann
-Samauratae
For some reason I can not seem to play as barbarians.

I usually play with one of the Successor Kingdoms. I played too much as Rome in other mods so usually for EB I go with Seleucid, Makedon, Pahlava, Hayasdan, Baktra, and Epiros. But my favorite is Seleuceia.

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

06-08-2007, 21:15

My first campaign was with Casse (for testing~;)), and it lasted one evening or two years - I was destroyed by the rebels. Then I started a Roman campaign, which lastes until 250 BC, then I got bored. Now I'm playing Makedonia (anyone who didn't notice it yet?~;)) since EVER and it's 209 BC now, and every turn takes ages. But I have to say I really love their troop selection. It's just working perfect for me.:2thumbsup:

What I most likely won't play are:

Koinon Greeks. They never had much appeal for me. Always sticking in their own litte polis.~D

Epeiros. The woodland brothers of Great Makedonia...

Gauls. I dunno why.~:confused:

Pontos.~:confused:

Getai. Too barbarian for civilization and two pseudo-civilized for barbarians.

What I must play before I die:

SPQR. Until the very and.~D

Karthago. Have a marvellous troop selection.

Lusotannan. Same as above.

Sweboz. The Menace from the woods.

Perhaps Saba or Ptolemaioi. Fantastic starting position.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus

06-08-2007, 21:40

In EB0.72 I played
-KH: unified Greece
-Makedon: for a couple turns
-Romans: several campaigns, my longest was killed by the rebelling city CTD (yes it was there in RTW1.2)

In EB0.8x
-Romans: many, longest until 115BC when I ran out of enemies
https://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9572/120ja7.jpg
-KH: a couple short campaigns
-Makedon: twice, once until 210BC
https://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6662/mak212wf6.jpg
-Epirus: never (as a fan of Rome, I hate Pyrrhus)
-Aedui: never
-Arverni: a couple short campaigns and campaign where I cheated
-Sweboz: never
-Casse: once for a couple turns, got defeated by wandering rebels and quit
-Lusitanii: never
-Carthage: once for a couple turns (as a fan of Rome, I have a healthy distaste for Carthage)
-Ptolemai: once for a couple turns
-Seleucids: I played a cheating campaign once while betatesting
https://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4103/s262cheattg7.jpg
(thats 262BC :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: )
-Baktria: never (my mortal enemy)
-Armenia: a couple short ones, recently I've started one that is doing well in 225BC
https://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1374/hai227ym2.jpg
-Parthia: a couple times, gotten to 240BC
https://img505.imageshack.us/img505/504/p240jf5.jpg
-Saka: once in 080, recruitment options made me quit
-Sarmations: never

Kralizec

06-08-2007, 21:45

Never played:

Iberians or Lusotana
Karthadast
Makedon (dunno why, really)
Sauromatae
Saka or Yuezhi
Romani
Saba
Baktria I tried once, but shortly after the start another patch came out and I started over with another faction.

Captian Cornelius

06-08-2007, 21:46

Campaigns I've played to the end:
Lusotannan
Sweboz
K H

Campaigns I've A reasonable amount of time on:
Pontus
Ptolemaioi (This was an interesting one apparently, while I was fighting the Seleucids in the west they waged an unsuccessful war in Bactria which led to the death of their last family member.)
Makedonia
Saba
Averni

Campaigns I haven’t played much of:
Roman (A test drive. I have something big planned for them. )
Saka

And any thing else I haven't played

blank

06-08-2007, 22:15

in 0.8x
never played:
Sarmatians
Hayasdan
Arche Seleukeia
Baktria
Getai
Pahlava
Ptolemaioi
Romani :laugh4:
Sabae
Saka

played a little:
Casse
KH
Pontos
Sweboz

played a lot:
Aedui
Arverni
Karthadastim
Epeiros
Makedonia
Lusotannan

Fondor_Yards

06-08-2007, 22:57

Only Armenia. I want too, always plan for it to be my next one, like their roster and position, but end up playing an old favorite.

And all you people who havn't played Baktria or the steppe tribes yet won't be saying that after the next/final release. They will be just too cool...

Sakkura

06-08-2007, 23:17

Seleukids: Played once to about 260 BC.
Baktria: Never. High on my list for an upcoming campaign :yes:
Pahlava: Never.
Armenia: Never.
Pontos: Never
Ptolemies: A few turns.
Saba: Never.
Epeiros: A few turns.
KH: A few turns.
Makedon: Campaign to like 150 BC.
Getai: A few turns.
Sweboz: Never.
Casse: Never.
Aedui: Campaign a few decades.
Arverni: Never.
Lusotannan: Never.
Carthage: Campaign a few decades.
Roman: Two campaigns so far.

Yeah, not much experience with the barbarians or steppe people yet. I'm thinking of playing Baktria which sounds like a nice mix of Hellenic and Eastern warfare.

I really like my Makedon campaign, but doubt I will do much with the other diadochoi anytime soon. It's like, been there done that. Plus managing a huge AS or ptolemaic empire from 272 BC will be slower compared to all the factions that start small.

pockettank

06-09-2007, 02:07

ive never played as:
Aedui- always liked Arverni more
Carthage-idk y always wanted to but havent mayb next campaign will b them =)
Pahlava-wanted to just cuz there Persia but never did (cant stand nomads)
Sauromatae-cant stand nomads
Ptolemaioi-always been more of a fan of the Arche
makedonia-dont know why loved them in RTW but not so much in EB
getai-close to the top of wanting to play but havent gotten around to it =)

factions ive only played a few turns of:
Casse-first time playin just to test it got pwned by rebels ><
Epirus-second shot at the game got pwned by Arche
Roma-started playin it but gave up i still have the save so i may keep goin w/ it later
Saba-cool faction but in debt from start of the game and too many rebels around them
arverni-just started my second campaign w/ them first one Aedui/Roma ate me up this time im watchin my money more carefully =p
Lusotana-(just started the campaign)
Hayasdan-started playin but Arche slaughtered me
Pontos-took a few settelments then bam 3 stacks of Arche troops march in and conquer my half stack army and small garrison troops (263 BC)
Saka-banckrupt with 3 settelments and only 2 units in each settelment (2 generals in homeland and 1 general and a horse archer in other 2)
Sweboz-just started campagin and its a blast so far

Factions i acctually got somewhere:
Arche-playin now loved them in RTW love them now
Baktria-got really far to like 213 then constant CTD and Arche/Saka slaughtered me
KH-love almost beatin only have to deal w/ Roma, Ptolmaioi, and Carthage and im done

Elminster12

06-09-2007, 02:53

I've never played as the Maks or Seleukids. Though I'll probably give the former a shot once their situation gets a little trickier than blitzing the Koinon. Everything else, I play. Like in everything else, I'm a bit of a chameleon. Even in Smash Bros.

Elukka

06-09-2007, 03:06

In all honesty i've not even played that much yet, but anyways.
I seem to find it hard to get into and really play with the factions that have big empire right at the start. For example, Carthage, the Ptolemies and the Seleucids. I find it much easier to fight with a nation i've build, knowing its strenght and what i can and cannot do.

EasternScourge

06-09-2007, 03:08

Except the Sweboz,I never really tried a barbarian faction.I also avoid the steppe factions as cavalry was never something I could do well.I tried Pahlav once,but quit after 10-20 years because I hadn't captured squat.I also avoid the AS.All that land scares me.Never played Ptolemai (SP?) either.Don't know why.Alctually,once I think about it,I never really played most of the factions.I've played Sweboz,Saba,KH,and Bactria,but never really did the others.And I never understood why I'm so attracted to them (I love the Romans but never played them for long).Possible locations of where I lived in past lives?:laugh4:

SwebozGaztiz

06-09-2007, 03:42

well i have never played as the romani!i really hate those bastards hahaha also i have never played neither as the pahlavi and the arche seleukeia,i tried the steppe factions but i really stink with them, i just love the barbarian factions specially aedui, lusotanan and sweboz, about the diadochoi factions well im not a huge fan of them but i really love the makedonians and baktrians, and finally i also like karthadastim and i just didn't liked the unit roster of the sabeans!thanks for this great mod guys, this is the only reason i keep playing this game hahaha!!

Greetings from Mexico

Zalmoxis

06-09-2007, 07:12

Sad to admit it, but I've only played Getai and untill 200BC and I've just started a Lusotani campaign.

kambiz

06-09-2007, 11:08

Only played with these factions :
-Pahlava in 0.8 : My borders was so close to actual historical borders of "Ashkani" (Pahlava) empire before a CTD happen.

-Pontus in 0.8 : Captured most of the Anatolia till it Crashed to Desktop.

-Romani in 0.8 & 0.81a : After "Pahlava" & "Pontus" crashed ,I went for my 3rd favorite ,The Romani in 0.8 which when I was so close to Marian reform ,0.81 came up and I stopped playing it. I began a new Romani campaign in 0.81a which unfortunately again a CTD at around 165 BCE stopped me:no: You can't imagine how mutch pain it has when you reach marian reform and the game get crashed soon:oops:

-Saba in 0.81 : Finished this one by my own.

I'm gonna try again Romani in the next build. Pahlava & Pontus only in 1.0:2thumbsup:

-Kambiz

P.S : Anyone knows the reasons of these CTDs? They are just annoying:thumbsdown:

Conradus

06-09-2007, 11:13

I never played Aedui and Pahlava, I've tried all other factions.

But since my PC is quite slow I've never managed to get really far into a campaign. I untied Gaul with the Arverni, but then quit as the Romani began besieging my cities. I united Italy, and destroyed Epeiros and Carthage as the Romani and then quit, but I don't know why. I've played quite a lengthy campaign as Bactria, uniting India and the eastern seleucid satrapies, but then I moved onto to Makedonia, uniting Hellas. Now I'm into an Epeiros campaign, trying to push the Romans out of Italy.

Tiberius Nero

06-09-2007, 11:32

Sweboz, Romans and Sarmatians, all for a short while. The AI has become a major turn off for me and I don't think I will be playing TW games any longer.

The Wicked

06-10-2007, 12:26

Well i only played as Makedonia and as the Romans, so i never played the rest factions :laugh4:

The Persian Cataphract

06-11-2007, 01:41

I've only played as the Pahlava, Saka-Rauka, Hayasdan, Baktria and Sauromatae; The rest I couldn't possibly fathom to play due to them being more dependant on infantry. Baktria of course is an exception because they are absolute monsters. Pahlava as always is a slaughter-house due to the lovely horse archer and cataphract combo.

I did try Casse once though; Atmospheric is a nice description.

marioo!

06-11-2007, 02:09

Well, I only played consistently with Epeiros and AS ( Big fan of Seleucos and Pyrrhos you know :sweatdrop: )
Had much fun with AS until got CTD, shortly after conquering Alexandria.
In my current Epirote Campaign, Pyrrichos - Pyrrhos son - just wreaked havoc on Sicily, Thrace, Sardinia and the others Mediterranean Islands.:whip:

Underhand

06-11-2007, 11:23

I've only played for any length of time as Rome and Baktria. I almost achieved the victory conditions of the latter, but got bored. It was only a matter of time until I won. I'm currently playing as the Romani, with Gaul, Greece, Illyria and western Africa under my belt, having just reached the Marian era in 240.

I intend to play the nomads and Saba in later builds, but right now I think they're too underdeveloped. I may play Baktria again now that I'm more familiar with different aspects of the mod. I don't think that there are any factions that I won't play, unless I just don't have time for them all.

NeoSpartan

06-12-2007, 08:07

The Errant

06-12-2007, 08:18

Baktria. Haven't gotten around to, yet.

Koinon Hellenon. Classical hoplite armies hold less appeal than Successor states.

Arche Seleukeia. I've develped an unreasonable pathological hatred for the faction. Most likely cause they have been my primary enemy in most of my campaigns.

Saka Rauka. Will get around to it eventually.

Sweboz. Lack "bling, bling". Hold no appeal.

Aedui/Arverni. Too similar to Casse. Got enough of Casse running the money script testcampaigns. *shudders*

BerkeleyBoi

06-12-2007, 08:29

Seleukids: never
Baktria: about 20 turns in 0.8
Pahlava: never
Armenia: never
Pontos: got killed my Seleukids after 10 turns or so
Ptolemies: never
Saba: never
Epeiros: killed Makedon and KH and then stopped
KH: killed Makedon, Epeiros, took Sicily, and ate Pontus as well as other provinces around that area before stopping
Makedon: took out KH and stopped
Getai: got out of debt and invaded Makedon before stopping
Sweboz: never
Casse: took all of Britain, Ireland, and modern day France as well as parts of Germany before getting bogged down in an endless war against the Romans
Aedui: took all of modern day France and got bogged down against endless waves of Triarii
Averni: took out Aedui and stopped
Lusotannan: took all of Iberian peninsula and began invading modern day France before stopping
Carthies: took most of Africa and Sicily before stopping
Roman: played a lot before the GUI changes in 0.8. I plan on trying them out again soon

I just don't like playing cavalry based armies very much so I avoided the steppes and the eastern factions... maybe I'll try it out again someday. I like 'barbarian' style warfare the most, though I wished that the reforms were dynamic so I don't have to wait forever to get new units.

The Persian Cataphract

06-12-2007, 12:02

I have never played any of the Horse Centered Factions. I think I should because otherwise I would never learn to fight with Horses and HA :shame:

HOWEVER... soon I will be fighting them with the Aedui and I hope my learning curve will be short.... (fingers crossed)

Actually, horse archers are some of the most effective units when fighting against "barbarian" or other undisciplined troops. In a single hail the enemy will suffer at least tens in casualty, allowing you to decimate each regiment. Any low to mid-end Celtic infantry will end up butchered against horse archers. No doubt the toughest infantry that horse archers will face are Seleucid or Bactrian high-end phalangites, where archery will seem pretty futile. Once you overcome this obstacle, there is no enemy that you can't tackle with horse archers... Well, except for behemoth heavy cavalry units, or even worse, heavy horse archers :laugh4:

Orb

06-12-2007, 12:03

Never tried Nomads, Baktria, Saba, KH, Makedonia, Epeiros, Casse or Romani (I can't play as the villains, it's just wrong).

Not really done much with Arverni, Seleucids, Sweboz, Ptolemaioi either.

Beefy187

06-12-2007, 12:45

Casse- united ireland and got bored
Rome- Got sicily and CTD after about 20 years
Makedonia- got bored when I saw Epeirus conquering Rome
Koinon Helenion- Got attacked by huge stack of Seleucid
Getai- Rage quited after getting snaped by Epeirus
Carthage- did about 2 turns then realised ill keep the fun for later

Im currently playing Lusottana and loving it

Sakkura

06-12-2007, 12:48

Makedonia- got bored when I saw Epeirus conquering Rome
Lol, that always happens in my Makedonia campaigns too :dizzy2:

Sarkiss

06-12-2007, 21:12

i so far only played as:
Bactria - almost finished my campaign;
Armenia - played as it a lot;
Pontus - the same;
Seleucids - qiute a few turns;
Pahlava - a few turns;
Saba - a few turns;
that would be it. not particularly interested in barbarians, but looking forward to playing as Greeks and especially Rome. just waiting for a new version with new goodies to come out and off we go!:beam:

EDIT: oh, how could i forget about beloved Carthage! sooo looking forward to playing as them! inspired by Hannibal's genius, that was the first faction i ever finished campaign with, back in RTW vanilla:)

Warmaster Horus

06-12-2007, 21:41

I played Rome, a lot. One campaign with the Casse, one with the Sweboz which I abandoned for some reason. Another with Makedon, where I'd gotten to about 195. I also played Baktria twice, though I never finished the second, and Pahlav once. I stopped it because of the Grey Death IIRC.

Lowenklee

06-12-2007, 22:10

blank

06-12-2007, 22:15

MarcusAureliusAntoninus

06-12-2007, 22:43

Actually, horse archers are some of the most effective units when fighting against "barbarian" or other undisciplined troops. In a single hail the enemy will suffer at least tens in casualty, allowing you to decimate each regiment. Any low to mid-end Celtic infantry will end up butchered against horse archers. No doubt the toughest infantry that horse archers will face are Seleucid or Bactrian high-end phalangites, where archery will seem pretty futile. Once you overcome this obstacle, there is no enemy that you can't tackle with horse archers... Well, except for behemoth heavy cavalry units, or even worse, heavy horse archers :laugh4:
In my Roman campaign I sent some Sarmatian horse archers to Britain to guard my border. I thought the real Romans did it, why not give it a try (though the Romans sent lancers and I sent archers - Rome can't recruit Sarmatian lancers in EB). They just sat there for a long time, but when Casse finally betrayed me they slaughtered them. I killed four full stacks in three turns, taking only loses to friendly fire.

Obelics

06-12-2007, 22:47

I have yet to play as the Macedonians. I'm not sure why but I seem to have an irrational dislike of the Macedonians, an academic dislike mind you. It's completely sentimental, and I know this, but they've always struck me as distasteful usurpers and (within EB) bullies.

Well, pheraphs my feeling are somethink like of yours, i also always found them too much overpowered in wichever mod i tryed, or pheraphs it is the fact that my knoweledge in the matter is not professional, but from school, and i only heard of makedonians when we studied the times of Filippo and Alexander. From my studies at school regarding the roman period, i remember i never read of epic fights and struggles for power by the romans against the makedonians; my feel (i repeat, they are just from elementar and middle-school, and they are quit some years ago) are that in the period of the roman expansion they were a sort of agonyzing state, so when i first played some mods, i always thought the makedonians to be a sort of "minor faction".
So playing the mods, i always had this feeling that they were a bit "out of the period" as they were represented in their strong power (hispapistai, super phalanxes, super cavallery etc.), and this made them to me as a bit less interesting.

Also the faction color, "black", (every mod i tryied had the black color for them), give them this sort of "inconscious" feeling that they are a sort of "killer faction", and this recreate in me, that feeling of "out of the period"...
I was just thinking, if they had a more "inoffensive" color, and reduced size army (for example only 160 men phalanxes, and only 40, or 50 men cavalry, and a "very impossible economy", but im going randomly here, cause i never played them) i could become to see them as a "this is a dying faction, i must resurrect it!". But as they are, i have that feeling i already sayd.

But i repeat, this is not an opinion based on some knowledge, it is just some feel i had from confused remembrance of the elementar and middle-school period.

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

06-12-2007, 23:12

Also the faction color, "black", (every mod i tryied had the black color for them), give them this sort of "inconscious" feeling that they are a sort of "killer faction", and this recreate in me, that feeling of "out of the period"...
From the days of vanilla, I always had some kind of obscure fascination for the Macedons. And their factional colour with the sun of vergina adds to this in my opinion. Now that I first played with them, my sympathy for them grew even stronger, getting to know their valuable, shiny military! They are the behemoth of Greece. The dark empire, bringing order to the unruly, childish greeks to the south. Yeah! *evil, mad laughing* Hey, I've always been a fan of Darth Vader as well...

Pharnakes

06-12-2007, 23:20

From the days of vanilla, I always had some kind of obscure fascination for the Macedons. And their factional colour with the sun of vergina adds to this in my opinion. Now that I first played with them, my sympathy for them grew even stronger, getting to know their valuable, shiny military! They are the behemoth of Greece. The dark empire, bringing order to the unruly, childish greeks to the south. Yeah! *evil, mad laughing* Hey, I've always been a fan of Darth Vader as well...

The villians are always the most intersting and likeable cahracters, much better than those goody-goody heros. It seems the same applies to empires.

The Persian Cataphract

06-12-2007, 23:42

In my Roman campaign I sent some Sarmatian horse archers to Britain to guard my border. I thought the real Romans did it, why not give it a try (though the Romans sent lancers and I sent archers - Rome can't recruit Sarmatian lancers in EB). They just sat there for a long time, but when Casse finally betrayed me they slaughtered them. I killed four full stacks in three turns, taking only loses to friendly fire.

Yeah, I know, it's always a bitch when that happens. While you chew up the enemy, hail after hail of arrows, making piles of corpses the losses that always hurt the most are friendly fire casualties among horse archers. I always go "D'oh!" whenever that happens, but for some stupid reason when I play infantry, I don't get that feel at all, and I lose like way more troops by the hands of the enemy. It's like you kill thousands of soldiers and you don't have a single casualty and when you think you are going to have a perfect game the nightmare happens: "NOOOOOOOOOOOO...! YOU DUMBASS HORSE ARCHER, YOU FUCKED UP MY RATIO!!!".

Horse archers are simply that good. You can throw any enemy at me, but all I need in my stack are two high-end heavy cavalry and the rest being horse archers. I'll beat the enemy, regardless of their numbers or what they have (Except for horse archers, believe me those fights can be difficult to win).

MarcusAureliusAntoninus

06-13-2007, 00:16

Yeah, I can only lose to three types of armies with HAs. One is other HA, I can usually win, but take crazy loses. Also cataphracts or cataphract archers. If you take a whole army of HAs against elite Parthian cataphracts and watch the arrows bounce off of them. And of course you cannot defeat elite pike phalanxes that can't be flanked. (Stupid red line!)

mlp071

06-13-2007, 00:29

The villians are always the most intersting and likeable cahracters, much better than those goody-goody heros. It seems the same applies to empires.

But, but , but, ... he didn't say that he likes KH :dizzy2: He was talking about good guys, Makedons. Ones that KH sold to Romani , since they couldn't beat them on their own:2thumbsup:

Anyways , need to finish it with Getai and Saka. Working Sauromatae roght now. Most played ? Makedons 3 versions , 3 campaigns, but only when i don't feel like struggling in game(not counting Casse test runs , which i have bout 2-3 dozens).
Never finished Romans , getting irritated by wandering Karthadastim gipsies, lol

*** Edited part: Only 2 i never tried are Ptolomeoi and Seleukids (have feeling that would be to easy )

Lysander13

06-13-2007, 01:52

tk-421

06-13-2007, 02:13

I have never played:

Lusitani
Aedui
Arverni
Sweboz
Getai
Karthadast
Makedonia
Epeiros
Arche Seleukeia
Pontos
Hayasdan
Baktria
Sauromatae
Saka Rauka
Sab'yn

Lowenklee

06-13-2007, 02:25

I've only ever played as Makedon and KH. So that leaves alot of other factions for me to explore. Believe it or not i've never actually played a Roman campaign not even in vanilla. So one of these days i would like to get around to them. However i'm really looking forward to playing one of the barbarian factions like the Arverni.

Likewise regarding the Romans, or in any game for that matter, I never play as the Romans. The whimsical nature of my dislike for the Macedonians or Seleucids has little in common with the absurd hostility I have toward the Romans in my European campaigns. I blame heredity:laugh4:

I'm not opposed to the occasional profitable alliance with Rome when playing as the Aedui though. But whether as the Sweboz, Casse, Iberians or the Aedui I also tend to hate the Arverni whom I also never play. I think it's the shade of green on their faction icon, that and the two hammers icon is too busy with it's subliminal implications. It confuses my id mind...did I mention i'm capricious:balloon2:

NeoSpartan

06-13-2007, 21:43

Actually, horse archers are some of the most effective units when fighting against "barbarian" or other undisciplined troops. In a single hail the enemy will suffer at least tens in casualty, allowing you to decimate each regiment. Any low to mid-end Celtic infantry will end up butchered against horse archers. No doubt the toughest infantry that horse archers will face are Seleucid or Bactrian high-end phalangites, where archery will seem pretty futile. Once you overcome this obstacle, there is no enemy that you can't tackle with horse archers... Well, except for behemoth heavy cavalry units, or even worse, heavy horse archers :laugh4:

I see.... thats some kind of woop a#%. Only one problem...
I am the NAKED barbarian this time (Aedui)..... I think I better start massing Celtic slingers.

still... I expect 2, 3 Clear Defeats. So far, there is a Hayasdan loose stack roaming close to my borders on the eastern Balkans. Later... much later... there will be full out war against Hayasdan and Parthia. But 1st I must free Galatia and the KH, Pontus, and Ptolemy (sp) are in the way. (AS is almost dead)

however.... in my next game I'll play Parthia (sp)

kalkwerk

06-13-2007, 22:31

And of course you cannot defeat elite pike phalanxes that can't be flanked. (Stupid red line!)
Sure? Even if you fire at short distance from all sides?

Edit: okay got your point about the line. But youll always be able to flank the AI with HA, because they wont hold the formation.

Pharnakes

06-13-2007, 22:37

Thats why its stupid red line, you can't fire at them from all directions.

The Persian Cataphract

06-13-2007, 23:25

I see.... thats some kind of woop a#%. Only one problem...
I am the NAKED barbarian this time (Aedui)..... I think I better start massing Celtic slingers.

still... I expect 2, 3 Clear Defeats. So far, there is a Hayasdan loose stack roaming close to my borders on the eastern Balkans. Later... much later... there will be full out war against Hayasdan and Parthia. But 1st I must free Galatia and the KH, Pontus, and Ptolemy (sp) are in the way. (AS is almost dead)

however.... in my next game I'll play Parthia (sp)

Slingers are great for their purpose, and they make particularly excellent garrison infantry or bait, however they are not tactically flexible in the same as horse archers who are able to double as light cavalry able to make short work out of light infantry. Light infantry have other uses however, especially in sieges where they can be used as fodder or siege manpower. Still though, I think horse-archers have a better counter against light infantry in the form of slingers or foot-archers (Now unless they are one of those lovely Eranshahr Arshtibara who double as spearmen) and that's in melee. When you become able to afford mass-recruiting the Dehbed Asavara, you've reached the true jack-of-all-trades. Cataphract archers is on the other side of the spectrum of versatile cavalry.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus

06-13-2007, 23:49

Sure? Even if you fire at short distance from all sides?

Edit: okay got your point about the line. But youll always be able to flank the AI with HA, because they wont hold the formation.
I've fought with HA against elite phalanxes, and even with flanking and shooting them in the back, most of them are still alive when I run out of arrows. Elite phalanxes = :skull:

Shifty_GMH

06-14-2007, 16:32

Have only ever played EB as Romani (2 or 3 campaigns) and Lusotannan (1 campaign). I don't have a lot of time to play and only started playing EB with the .8 release.

NeoSpartan

06-14-2007, 20:43

Slingers are great for their purpose, and they make particularly excellent garrison infantry or bait, however they are not tactically flexible in the same as horse archers who are able to double as light cavalry able to make short work out of light infantry. Light infantry have other uses however, especially in sieges where they can be used as fodder or siege manpower. Still though, I think horse-archers have a better counter against light infantry in the form of slingers or foot-archers (Now unless they are one of those lovely Eranshahr Arshtibara who double as spearmen) and that's in melee. When you become able to afford mass-recruiting the Dehbed Asavara, you've reached the true jack-of-all-trades. Cataphract archers is on the other side of the spectrum of versatile cavalry.

true.... I'll see how the celtic slingers preform, I expect them to do a good job due to thier range. BUT I'll make sure I don't get into a missile duel with the HA, and eastern archers. I did that once in RTW and got my a#% handed to me.... twice. :no:

pansoiatr

06-15-2007, 09:02

I only discovered EB when 0.81 was out so i have only played epeirus and bactria fairly extensively,but i am really looking forward to play as karthadastim and destroy the romans:laugh4:

Marcus Cornelius

06-15-2007, 20:31

I've played as the Romans up until 180BC and that's probably my longest campaign in EB. The only other faction I've played past a few turns is the Makedonians. I wish I had more time to play EB. ~:(

CrownOfSwords

06-15-2007, 23:26

Hard for me to stay on a single campaign so i've played them all... But the only campaign ive ever played to go past 200BC was as the Romani and I had already conquered past the extent of the roman empire all the way to india :P

polluxlm

06-11-2008, 12:34

The Usual Suspects:

Macedon - Favorite faction, always revert back to them or the Romani after 'odd' campaigns. One went to 160 BC.
Romani - Current campaign, and longest ever. 125 BC.

Conquered at least one fourth of the map:

Carthage
Epeiros
Koinon Hellenon
Sweboz (never again)

Couple of turns:

Getai
Arche Seleukeia
Baktria (going to be my next grand campaign. simply had to after all the praise.)
Casse (never again)

Never:

Pahlava
Saka (never will)
Sauromatae (never will)
Hayasdan
Pontos
Ptolemai
Saba'en
Lusotania
Aedui (never will)
Averni (never will)

I have an utter contempt for barbaric and nomadic factions. Simply not made for empire building.

Victor1234

06-11-2008, 19:03

Well, I've played several games as the Romans starting with EB 0.81. I played one campaign as the Selucids with 1.0 and tried Carthage and Greeks as well. Now I'm waiting for some more unofficial mods and hotfixes to come out for 1.1 before starting another Selucid campaign again. Never tried any other factions apart from Romans, Selucids, Carthage and Greeks. :embarassed:

https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/victorspicstorage/selucid.jpg

210 BC with medium/medium difficulty. I love everything about the Selucids, except for the huge distances and unrest penalties which made moving my capital back to Seleukeia impossible.

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

06-11-2008, 20:42

I love everything about the Maks but their crappy lvl3 government, the possible locations for lvl2 governments, and the missing ability to recruit Thorakitai. Thank god this is all mod-able.:2thumbsup:

I never played as Lusotannan, Aedui, Arverni, Sakae, Sarmatae, Pahlava, Baktria, Seleukeia, Ptolemaioi, Saba, Getai, Hayasdan, Pontos, Koinon Hellenon and Epeiros.

socal_infidel

06-11-2008, 21:48

Romani - NEVER PLAYED - No desire to play them. On one hand, were I to play them, I'd like to play a historical-campaign as QuintusSertorius is doing. On the other hand, I don't want to be constricted by history to that extent. So I just don't play them.

Koinon Hellenon - NEVER PLAYED - It would feel weird conquering any substantial territory with them. Plus of the Hellenic factions, they seem to have the least interesting units.

Epeiros - NEVER PLAYED - they just don't appeal to me for some reason. Maybe since, as a faction, they didn't survive long into EB's time-frame.

Makedonia - PLAYED - my favourite of the Hellenic factions. My last campaign with them, I invaded Egypt after I emerged the victor in Greece. I really like the challenge of their initial starting situation and I love their position on the map. Basically, can choose where to expand.

Ptolemaioi - my second favourite of the Hellenic factions. I love their starting position. And I love the wars with AS.

Arche Seleukeia - NEVER PLAYED - their size still intimidates me. Been meaning to play an AS campaign for awhile, I just get the feeling it will be too easy to get to be a super-super-power territory-wise given that they are so large to begin with. For that reason, I want to roleplay a campaign with them, but don't know enough about their history to serve as a guideline.

Baktria - Awesome. I love this faction. You can put together some awesome armies with Baktria. Eastern units, with Hellenic units, with Indian units, with nomadic horsearchers. They're the Benetton of factions.

Hayasdan - I love these guys. A Hayasdan campaign is such a rewarding challenge. My favorite EB campaign was with them in EB 1.0.

Pontos - NEVER PLAYED - the whole nigh-impossible thing scares me.

Saka Rauka - NEVER PLAYED - the whole nigh-impossible thing scares me.

Sauromatae - - NEVER PLAYED - I love me the cavalry armies, but I dislike their starting position. Too far from civilized territories for me.

Pahlava - what can I say. I love this faction more than any others. Nothing more pleasurable than marching an army of Cataphracts and horsearchers to the field. Thanks to EB, I've started reading a number of books on them. They're just amazing.

Getai - I just started a Getai campaign. I like their roster and their starting position. The chance to get some nasty shock infantry as well as my preferred horsearchers seems very very interesting.

Sweboz - NEVER PLAYED - don't much like infantry

Arverni - NEVER PLAYED - don't much like infantry

Aedui - NEVER PLAYED - don't much like infantry

Casse - NEVER PLAYED - I like to turtle. But these guys seem to be on a whole 'nother level for turtle-ability. They seem to far removed from the rest of the EB factions.

Lusotannan - NEVER PLAYED - dunno why. I've been meaning to play as these guys for some time. Maybe my next campaign.

Qarthadastim - NEVER PLAYED - similar feelings as with the Romani. On one hand, I'd like to play a somewhat historical campaign with them. On the other hand, that means I get destroyed. Plus, I'm not sure the AI Romani would be up to snuff. I'd like to see some naval battles and some naval landings, but I don't the AI could handle. Maybe on BI.exe. But I've heard things about annoying naval invasions.

Saba - NEVER PLAYED - they just don't appeal to me at all.

artaxerxes

06-11-2008, 22:37

I've only played Seleukids (lots of times), Makedonia (several times), Carthage (twice) and Pahlava (once). I tink I'll end up playing KH and Epeiros soon as well, cos' I really like them.

As for the rest

Baktria, Pontus, Hayasdan - find them kinda interesting, MIGHT try them, but prolly won't get far

Ptolemaioi - for some reason, even though I worship all other hellenic factions, I really detest them and have no wish to play them. Perhaps it is because their warmongering weakened the Seleukids, who are my favourites, but I don't think that's the entire story. There's just something I don't like about Egypt. In all games, I've never played Egyptians. I like Hellenes and Mesopotamians and peoples of Iran and Asia Minor, but I've never liked Egypt. I don't even want to conquer it??? (though I do it for the money. Might also play them once, merely because they're so rich)

Casse, Getai, Sauromatae, Saka, Lusotannan - promise you I'll never play them. They're nice when you're hellenic and they represent northern tribes you have to defend against, but they mean nothing to me.

Arverni, Aedui - MIGHT just try them. But would have to be a day when I'd just seen an Asterix movie:laugh4:

Sweboz - seem somewhat mystic, dark and sinister up in that dark forest. But dunno if I'd get more than a few turns done

Romani - they destroyed all of those contemporary states which I liked, so NO. Hate them and like leaving them alone till they're big enough to be a challenge and then crush them in battle after battle (though I detest their very possessions too much to want to invade them:inquisitive::laugh4:)

Actually, beat this: I have NEVER progressed farther north than the starting territories of Makedonia/Epeiros, southern Romani, starting territories of Carthage or north of the Caucasus or the VC's of the Seleucids (except with diplomats).
I have never actually BEEN (in EB) in modern Germany, France, England, Scandinavia, most of Iberian peninsula or Russia - Prolly one third of the map that I haven't even SEEN:smash:

Obelics

06-11-2008, 23:24

Just as an update, i have to say that i played the Getai for a lot of turns in 1.1, and i have to say that they are fun! There are a lot of forests there, and i cant say the satisfaction of hiding the falxemen in the forest, then wait that the various enemys engage my first line in guard mode, and then let the falxmen to break out from the forest and charging the engaged enemy in the back... it's a slaughter... i like them. (they have very few armour, so you keep them well hidden and safe, and you use them just as a sort of "terminators"...:chucks:)

Also new factions that I played for a good amount of turns are Epeiros, Saba and Arverni, so the list of non played faction is becoming very tiny...

Sarkiss

06-12-2008, 19:59

never played as Casse, Lusotana, Sweboz, Rome, Saka, Sarmatians, Getai, Aedi and Arverni.
i guess im just not a big fan of "barbarians". dont really miss Romans either.
will give those factions a try one day though. Gaul and Iberia look the most attractive.

Olaf The Great

06-12-2008, 20:15

Sauromatae and to a lesser extent the celtic factions(I played casse extensively, but not Aedui or Arverni.
Oh and the seleucids, I will eventually start a campaign as them when they're constricted to Syria.

I just started my first Parthian Campaign.

Hooahguy

06-12-2008, 20:30

all but the getai, romani, and baktria
EDIT: i mean, i only played the above 3 factions....

Ibrahim

06-12-2008, 20:36

Swordmaster

06-12-2008, 23:07

I've never played the Ptolemaioi. All others I've done at least a couple of turns with. I'm now doing Casse again. Next up will be either Macedon or the Seleucids, again too.

Gazius

06-13-2008, 05:40

The main factions I like playing are Carthage, the Iberian one, Rome, Makedonia, Baktria, and I had a multiplayer game going with Kionon Hellon, where we would alternate faction leaders, so one would die, the other play would advance his goals, then I'd get it back and fix it in line with what I wanted to do, but then I never got the turn back.

Power2the1

06-13-2008, 06:05

I have never played the Saromatae, Saka, or Parthians because in custom battles, I do not much like running around with horse archers, waiting for them to finish their arrow supply, then run around some more and charge. However, the mystery of these factions are growing on me, and lately I've been wanting to try out Parthia so that should be a great, refreshing campaign with a fighting style I am not overly familiar with with units I am not familiar with ~:).

Overall, I'm a heavy infantry type player. I love the northern barbarian factions, and have had many a fun campaign with the Sewboz, Aedui, Arverni, Casse, and probably my most fun campaign was with the Getai. Those are my main factions that I do play with. Currently with Lusotana I am around 30 turns in and things are going well. Hellenistic factions and Carthage I've played them all. Seleucids and Bactria have a great and varied roster, some of the horse archer fighting style, and they are very fun to play. Rome is great, but I think it would be more challenging/rewarding if the Aedui or Arverni reached supremacy in Gaul sooner so once I arrive, they put up a great struggle against my Polybian armies. Regardless, who I play, its always fun, and I am looking forward to trying out the horse archer faction soon.