Log in

View Full Version : Science in the British classroom



Banquo's Ghost
06-12-2007, 16:10
There has long been a debate about the serious "dumbing down" of education standards that has been going on under the present British government, particularly in the sciences.

This is an interesting and disturbing article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/12/science_education_stuffed/) concerning an open letter published by a physics teacher. It is worth reading his letter in its entirety to get a sense of the politically motivated nonsense being taught and examined in the UK today.


There is much, much more to physics than precision and numbers, we would be doing young people no service to undersell it to them by focusing solely on these aspects

:shocked2:

No wonder schoolkids all want to be on Big Brother.

Physics GCSE: 'insultingly easy, non scientific, and vague'

UK science education flushed away
By Lucy Sherriff

Physics GCSE papers are full of questions that are vague, stupid, insultingly easy, political, and non-scientific.

So says secondary school physics teacher Wellington Grey in an open letter to the Department for Education and Skills (DfES) and the AQA exam board.

Grey writes: "I am a physics teacher. Or, at least I used to be. My subject is still called physics. My pupils will sit an exam and earn a GCSE in physics, but that exam doesn't cover anything I recognise as physics."

Grey lists examples to support his complaints about the latest exam papers: one is a simple comprehension question that tests only a pupil's reading ability; another asks why a dark skinned person would be at a lower risk of getting skin cancer. Acceptable answers are "more UV absorbed by dark skin (more melanin)", or "less UV penetrates deep to damage living cells / tissue".

All well and good, but what about Hooke's law? Grey argues that questions so far removed from the traditional subject of physics amount to an ambush on the students sitting the paper.

AQA, the exam board behind the questions, disagreed. It told us: "The evidence we have is that the mark distributions for these new papers are similar to those for the previous papers so candidates appear to find them equally as accessible e.g. grade boundaries are at similar percentages."

It conceded that some of the questions were not well written, but explained that "some of the questions quoted are from specimen material", and are therefore not as well edited as real exam questions.

Grey says his pupils complained the exam did not test the material they had studied. He argues that they are right.

He says the new physics course allows for plenty of debate about science, but that "pupils do not learn meaningful information about the topics they debate".

In its defence, the AQA says: "Our specifications meet the new requirements for 'science' set by our regulator, the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority, and are fully accredited. The revised requirements place a greater emphasis on 'how science works'. This is the entitlement curriculum for every student: the focus is on scientific literacy with the aim of engaging all students."

The letter comes as thinktank Civitas issued a report saying the school curriculum in the UK has been "corrupted" by political interference. The group says that traditional subjects have been hijacked "to promote fashionable causes such as gender awareness, the environment, and anti-racism". Teachers, meanwhile, are expected to help further the government's social goals, rather than impart knowledge to their students.

Civitas singles out science for particular criticism, while noting that "no subject has escaped the blight of political interference".

Author David Perks suggests that the new scientific curriculum will put more students off studying the subject. The report cites three independent studies that found "students exposed to [the new course] are less likely to trust scientists and less likely to want to continue science at A-level".

Further, independent schools are choosing to enter their students for the International GCSE instead, which still offers the option of studying the three sciences independently. Perks says this is creating an "educational apartheid".

Meanwhile, the DfES says it is not responsible for approving exam specifications. It sent us a statement saying: "There is much, much more to physics than precision and numbers, we would be doing young people no service to undersell it to them by focusing solely on these aspects".

The teacher's letter (http://www.wellingtongrey.net/articles/archive/2007-06-07--open-letter-aqa.html).

I am a physics teacher. Or, at least I used to be. My subject is still called physics. My pupils will sit an exam and earn a GCSE in physics, but that exam doesn’t cover anything I recognize as physics. Over the past year the UK Department for Education and the AQA board changed the subject. They took the physics out of physics and replaced it with… something else, something nebulous and ill defined. I worry about this change. I worry about my pupils, I worry about the state of science education in this country, and I worry about the future physics teachers — if there will be any.

I graduated from a prestigious university with a degree in physics and pursued a lucrative career in economics which I eventually abandoned to teach. Economics and business, though vastly easier than my subject, and more financially rewarding, bored me. I went into teaching to return to the world of science and to, in what extent I could, convey to pupils why one would love a subject so difficult.

For a time I did. For a time, I was happy.

But this past academic year things changed. The Department for Education and the AQA board brought in a new syllabus for the sciences. One which greatly increased the teaching of `how science works.’ While my colleagues expressed scepticism, I was hopeful. After all, most pupils will not follow science at a higher level, so we should at least impart them with a sense of what it can tell us about our universe.

That did not happen

The result is a fiasco that will destroy physics in England.

The thing that attracts pupils to physics is its precision. Here, at last, is a discipline that gives real answers that apply to the physical world. But that precision is now gone. Calculations — the very soul of physics — are absent from the new GCSE. Physics is a subject unpolluted by a torrent of malleable words, but now everything must be described in words.

In this course, pupils debate topics like global warming and nuclear power. Debate drives science, but pupils do not learn meaningful information about the topics they debate. Scientific argument is based on quantifiable evidence. The person with the better evidence, not the better rhetoric or talking points, wins. But my pupils now discuss the benefits and drawbacks of nuclear power plants, without any real understanding of how they work or what radiation is.

I want to teach my subject, to pass on my love of physics to those few who would appreciate it. But I can’t. There is nothing to love in the new course. I see no reason that anyone taking this new GCSE would want to pursue the subject. This is the death of physics.
Specific Complaints:

My complaints about the new syllabus fall into four categories: the vague, the stupid, the political, and the non-science.
The Vague:

The specification provided by the AQA (available at their website) is vaguely worded. Every section starts with either the phrase ‘to evaluate the possible hazards and uses of…’ or ‘to compare the advantages and disadvantages of…’ without listing exactly what hazards, uses, advantages or disadvantages the board actually requires pupils to learn. The amount of knowledge on any given topic, such as the electromagnetic spectrum, could fill an entire year at the university level. But no guidance is given to teachers and, as a result, the exam blindsides pupils with questions like:

Suggest why he [a dark skinned person] can sunbathe with less risk of getting skin cancer than a fair skinned person.

To get the mark, pupils must answer:
More UV absorbed by dark skin (more melanin)
Less UV penetrates deep to damage living cells / tissue

Nowhere does the specification mention the words sunscreen or melanin. It doesn’t say pupils need to know the difference between surface dead skin and deeper living tissue. There is no reason any physics teacher would cover such material, or why any pupil should expect to be tested on it.
The Stupid:

On topics that are covered by the specification, the exam board has answers that indicate a lack of knowledge on the writer’s part. One question asks `why would radio stations broadcast digital signals rather than analogue signals?’ An acceptable answer is:
Can be processed by computer / ipod [sic]

Aside from the stupidity of the answer, (iPods, at the time of this writing, don’t have radio tuners and computers can process analogue signals) writing the mark scheme in this way is thoughtless, as teachers can only give marks that exactly match its language. So does the pupil get the mark if they mention any other mp3 player? Technically, no. Wikipedia currently lists 63 different players. Is it safe to assume that the examiner will be familiar with all of them? Doubtful.

If the question is not poorly worded, or not covered in the specification, it will be insultingly easy. The first question on a sample paper started:

A newspaper article has the heading: ‘Are mobiles putting our children at risk?’ A recent report said that children under the age of nine should not use mobile phones…

The first question on the paper was:

Below which age is it recommended that children use a mobile phone in emergencies only?

This is the kind of reading comprehension question I would expect in a primary school English lesson, not a secondary school GCSE.
The Political:

The number of questions that relate to global warming is appalling. I do not deny that pupils should know about the topic, nor do I deny its importance. However, it should not be the main focus of every topic. The pupils (and their teachers) are growing apathetic from overexposure.

A paper question asked: `Why must we develop renewable energy sources?’ This is a political question. Worse yet, a political statement. I’m not saying I disagree with it, just that it has no place on a physics GCSE paper.

Pupils are taught to poke holes in scientific experiments, to constantly find what is wrong. However, never are the pupils given ways to determine when an experiment is reliable, to know when an experiment yields information about the world that we can trust. This encourages the belief that all quantitative data is unreliable and untrustworthy. Some of my pupils, after a year of the course, have gone from scientifically minded individuals to thinking, “It’s not possible to know anything, so why bother?” Combining distrust of scientific evidence with debates won on style and presentation alone is an unnerving trend that will lead society astray.
The Non-scientific:

Lastly, I present the final question on the January physics exam in its entirety:

Electricity can also be generated using renewable energy sources. Look at this information from a newspaper report.
The energy from burning bio-fuels, such as woodchip and straw, can be used to generate electricity.
Plants for bio-fuels use up carbon dioxide as they grow.
Farmers get grants to grow plants for bio-fuels.
Electricity generated from bio-fuels can be sold at a higher price than electricity generated from burning fossil fuels.
Growing plants for bio-fuels offers new opportunities for rural communities.

Suggest why, apart from the declining reserves of fossil fuels, power companies should use more bio-fuels and less fossil fuels to generate electricity.

The only marks that a pupil can get are for saying:
Overall add no carbon dioxide to the environment
Power companies make more profit
Opportunity to grew new type of crop (growing plants in swamps)
More Jobs

None of this material is in the specification, nor can a pupil reliably deduce the answers from the given information. Physics isn’t a pedestrian subject about power companies and increasing their profits, or jobs in a rural community, it’s is about far grander and broader ideas.
Conclusion:

My pupils complained that the exam did not test the material they were given to study, and they are largely correct. The information tested was not in the specification given to the teachers, nor in the approved resources suggested by the AQA board. When I asked AQA about the issues with their exam they told me to write a letter of complaint, and this I have done. But, rather than mail it to AQA to sit ignored on a desk, I am making it public in the hope that more attention can be brought to this problem.

There is a teacher shortage in this country, but if a physicist asked my advice on becoming a teacher, I would have to say: don’t. Don’t unless you want to watch a subject you love dismantled.

I am a young and once-enthusiastic physics teacher. I despair at what I am forced to teach. I have potentially thirty years of lessons to give, but I didn’t sign up for this — and the business world still calls. There I won’t have to endure the pain of trying to animate a crippled subject. The rigors of physics have been torn down and replaced with impotent science media studies.

I beg of the government and the AQA board, please, give me back my subject and let me do my job.

Sincerely,

Wellington Grey

Odin
06-12-2007, 16:29
I read the letter and to be honest skimmed the article. I am not fluent in UK education standards but the letter struck me as a teacher unhappy with being dictated his cirriculum. Thats fair to a point, isnt the department of education required to do this?

Source:
In its defence, the AQA says: "Our specifications meet the new requirements for 'science' set by our regulator, the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority, and are fully accredited. The revised requirements place a greater emphasis on 'how science works'. This is the entitlement curriculum for every student: the focus is on scientific literacy with the aim of engaging all students."

Well that seems to be achieved, even by the professors own admission of more debate in classroom.

So one other question to help me understand this because I am curious about european societial shifts do to immigration (get the sense of where I am going?) This is soely for publicly funded education right? This cirriculum isnt required at private universities is it?

InsaneApache
06-12-2007, 16:30
What would you expect from a government who's leader doesn't know the first thing about history, never mind science.

I wish they'd scrapped calculus and precision when I did my Physics O level in 75, I'd have passed with flying colours. :idea2:

doc_bean
06-12-2007, 17:06
As an engineer: appalling.

Society needs scientists and engineers more than anything else if we want to keep up our economic growth while making it more sustainable. These questions have nothing to do with physics. Not even with science in general. The western world is putting its future on the line with the lowering of educational standards. I'll bet China keeps at least one decent school/uni around to send its smart kids too. With our egalitarian system* we are lowering the standards for everyone, how long will we be able to maintain our technological advantage ?



*The US is exempt, of course.

English assassin
06-12-2007, 17:24
This curriculum isnt required at private universities is it?

This is for secondary schools, high schools in US terms (I think. Pupils up to age 16, anyway). And yes you are right, state schools (public schools in US terms) are obliged to follow the national curriculum, public schools (private schools in US terms) are not.

Although the AQA ia an examination board. If you want your pupils to get its GSCE in physics, then obviously you have to teach to its sylabus whether or not you are legally obliged to follow the national curriculum.

This story depresses me profoundly. I don't have any difficulty with an exam in scientific reasoning, or something similar (although the letter does a good job of showing that this exam is no such thing). But not at the expense of exams for those who might actually, who knows, want to learn some science.

I believe that anyone who doesn't understand at least some form of science to a reasonable level (ie A level, or school leaving exams at age 18 in generic terms) simply doesn't understand about one of the the most important factors affecting all our lives. They are, and on the evidence of this letter it is not their fault, ignorant.

And ideally government would be made up entirely of biochemists. But maybe that is just me.

Odin
06-12-2007, 17:36
This is for secondary schools, high schools in US terms (I think. Pupils up to age 16, anyway). And yes you are right, state schools (public schools in US terms) are obliged to follow the national curriculum, public schools (private schools in US terms) are not.



Okay that makes more sense. My personal opinion is applied universally to all schools, let teachers teach. I understand that someone has to put forth a guideline curriculum, but it shouldnt be limiting. I know nothing about physics really, at least as an applied science, but if a professor is railing against a standard applied to his class, at a minimum there should be some educators review panel.

Don Corleone
06-12-2007, 17:38
As an engineer: appalling.

Society needs scientists and engineers more than anything else....

Spoken like a true engineer!

I'm not certain I understood what you meant by saying the US is exempt, we dumb down our grades and material taught as well (though we attempt to misguidedly compensate for this by increasing the homework load, the net result is our kids are spending more and more time doing less and less).

American math and science scores are downright scary, and it's not as though the material is difficult (they've fluffed it over the years). If we don't do something to reverse this trend, we will soon be passed as one of the world's leading innovators.

Duke Malcolm
06-12-2007, 17:44
This is interesting. I am glad that we in the People's Glorious Republic of Scotland has a different system... Standard Grades (the equivalent of GCSE) are a lot less political and from the look of the sample questions, are damned harder. Although many schools are now replacing Standard Grades...
I really would like to see a GCSE Past Paper now. I might try and find one somewhere...

InsaneApache
06-12-2007, 18:35
And ideally government would be made up entirely of biochemists. But maybe that is just me.

You mean like Hilda? :inquisitive:

doc_bean
06-12-2007, 18:53
Spoken like a true engineer!

I'm not certain I understood what you meant by saying the US is exempt, we dumb down our grades and material taught as well (though we attempt to misguidedly compensate for this by increasing the homework load, the net result is our kids are spending more and more time doing less and less).

American math and science scores are downright scary, and it's not as though the material is difficult (they've fluffed it over the years). If we don't do something to reverse this trend, we will soon be passed as one of the world's leading innovators.

Hmm, I was thinking more of Uni when mentioning the US where you do have the top schools, your high school system seems to suffer the same drawbacks as ours.

Duke of Gloucester
06-12-2007, 20:00
Relax. It is not as bad as this guy makes out. (Why is it people are so willing to believe any article that indicates the education system in the UK is "going to hell in a handbasket"?

The English National Curriculum for science changed from September 2007. One thing that remains the same is that all 14-16 year olds* must study science. Another thing that has not changed is that students can study one, two or three GCSEs in science spending 2.5 to 7.5 hours on science per week. What has changed is the way that the different science topics are shared out between the different GCSEs.

Before 2007 Single Award GCSE was really aimed at bright students who wanted to specialise in non-science subjects, usually languages. They would spend only 2.5 hours on science and use the extra 2.5 hours on their other subjects. A lot of the very hardest topics were in Single Award. This did not quite match the way schools used this qualification. Weaker students find science hard, so many schools entered their weakest candidates for this qualification so that they could spend the extra time on subjects they could cope with better. Double Award (2 GCSEs) was aimed at most students. It contained enough Physics, Chemistry and Biology to prepare students for A level. For students who were really interested and able there were GCSEs in Physics Chemistry and Biology. There was also something called Applied Science which concentrated on the way that science is used in the workplace.

The changes from 2007 onwards involved the way that the topics were shared between the Single and Double Awards. The new single award is compulsory for all students and aims to contain essential science that everyone should know. For physics this comprises Heat Transfer, Energy and Energy Resources, The Electromagnetic Spectrum and Communication and Radioactivity and Space. The Double Award contains the science needed by someone who wants to study science further. For physics this includes Forces and Motion, Static and Current Electricity and more Radioactivity. For those who are really keen (and sensible) you can study even more physics: Movement in a Circle, Sound and Light, Electromagnetic Induction and Astrophysics.

Mr Wellington overstates his case. There has been a change of emphasis for the Single Award topics with topical science issues being discussed, but look at the list of topics yourself. I recognise them all as being physics. What does everyone else think? What is missing? When he says his students will get a GCSE in physics, well that's only true if he is going to teach them all the topics listed in the paragraph above. If he stops with the ones on the exam his students have done, the best they can hope for is a GCSE in science. Engineers can relax. Their successors will have studied plenty of traditional physics at GCSE and A level.

I think the DFES is right. Physics is not about numbers (although maths is pretty important) and the people who taught me at college were anything but precise when it came to arithmetic. Precision with language and terminology is essential. I was rightly called by Doc Bean and others for some imprecision about wave particle duality on another thread. Perhaps Mr Wellington needs a lesson in precision when it comes to what constitutes a Physics GCSE.

However the paper he complains about is a particularly bad one. Many of the questions are vague but only a few answers are acceptable in the mark scheme. However this is a problem with one paper rather than the whole scheme. Don't forget, in the good old days (when IA and I were at school) most people did not study physics at all after age 14.

*Not strictly true since you could study science in Year 10, get your GCSE and then do something else.

Marcellus
06-12-2007, 20:38
A major problem is the incompetence of the exam boards who set (and mark) the papers. An A-level history paper asked students to examine two sources as evidence for Lenin's views on the New Economic Policy. One of the sources didn't mention Lenin at all. Quite how exam boards can mess up such a clear problem is hard to understand. Just a few days ago my S1 (statistics) paper assigned a mark for guessing a musical instrument that weights 85kg. I can think of several other examples just in the few years I've done external exams, but won't bore you with them. The exam boards really need to get their act together to avoid the kind of awful questions mentioned in the article.

When I did GCSE science two years ago we were still on the Double award syllabus, which was actually reasonably good in terms of scientific content. I can understand wanting to include more about how the scientific method works, but from the sound of it they've gone a bit too far.

Lorenzo_H
06-12-2007, 22:00
My GCSE Biology was so easy I think you could have done it in a week. Here is one of my exam questions:

Q: Why do antibiotics not work against Viruses?

The correct answer: Viruses are not affected by antibiotics.

doc_bean
06-13-2007, 10:07
My GCSE Biology was so easy I think you could have done it in a week. Here is one of my exam questions:

Q: Why do antibiotics not work against Viruses?

The correct answer: Viruses are not affected by antibiotics.

That's just rephrasing the question....

Is it multiple choice ?

Duke Malcolm
06-13-2007, 11:23
Do England and Wales have several Exam Boards? I read the plural somewhere above and thought I was reading incorrectly.

English assassin
06-13-2007, 12:05
Do England and Wales have several Exam Boards? I read the plural somewhere above and thought I was reading incorrectly.

Many. For GSCEs IIRC only three, OCR, Edexcel and AQA, and I am sure the Welsh have one, ah yes, WEJC, thank you Google.

Far more bodies than that offer different accredited qualifications though, NVQs and the like.

When I did O levels there were far more but most universities have got out of the game or merged (OCR is former Oxford and cambridge, Edexcel is now privately owned but i think MIGHT have been the old Londion board, and AQA was a bunch of Northern boards I think.)

Lorenzo_H
06-13-2007, 13:11
That's just rephrasing the question....

Is it multiple choice ?
Yes, it is just rephrasing the question.

No, it was not multiple choice. It was actually last year's exam, so I had the mark scheme. It is even the higher tier.

doc_bean
06-13-2007, 14:00
No, it was not multiple choice.

Then how can this answer be possibly deemed acceptable ?

If the students aren't supposed to know *why* antibiotics don't work on virii then don't ask them...

Big King Sanctaphrax
06-13-2007, 14:52
I am inclined to go with Duke of Gloucester's interpretation on this one. I was helping my sister revise for her GCSE's recently, and while there were one or two daft questions, that's always been the case. The main body of the exam seemed sound, they asked about most of the major formulae you'd expect at this level for physics, etc.

What is in my opinion a bigger problem is getting people to continue studying science to A-level and degree. While GCSEs are appropriate for the age they are taken at, I don't think they provide the level of science that you need to manage well in the real world. As a result, we have a large portion of the population who have done no science post-16 falling for the most egregrious pseudo-science and quackery. When I was doing my A-levels, there were eleven people in my physics class-and this is a large sixth-form college.

Something that has happened recently in British science education which really is worrying, however, is University College London forcing David Colquhoun to move his excellent blog off their servers after a ridiculous threat of legal action by some purveyors of quackery. (http://www.badscience.net/?p=431) It makes me ashamed to go there, and sets a worrying precedent.

Duke Malcolm
06-13-2007, 15:05
I have a new ambition: BSc in Homeopathy.
I wonder how it will compare to the 5 year MChem in Chemistry I am to embark on come September... Long arduous lectures on scienfitic precision? Requirements of proof and experimental evidence? Expensive equipment to analyse compounds (water) in the end solution? Or just "Add water, guffaw at the naively pretension 'patients' and walk away with a wad of nice crisp banknotes?

doc_bean
06-13-2007, 15:24
What is in my opinion a bigger problem is getting people to continue studying science to A-level and degree. While GCSEs are appropriate for the age they are taken at, I don't think they provide the level of science that you need to manage well in the real world. As a result, we have a large portion of the population who have done no science post-16 falling for the most egregrious pseudo-science and quackery. When I was doing my A-levels, there were eleven people in my physics class-and this is a large sixth-form college.

Hmm, if the questions are aimed at <16 year olds then they are probably understandable, most physics involve knowledge of deriatives and such, something which is only taught in the later years of HS or later (here anyway).

Husar
06-13-2007, 15:58
I just wish there were more mathematics teachers/professors who can actually teach me their subject instead of confusing me until I completely lose interest.:wall:

Gawain of Orkeny
06-13-2007, 16:43
Hmm, if the questions are aimed at <16 year olds then they are probably understandable, most physics involve knowledge of deriatives and such, something which is only taught in the later years of HS or later (here anyway).

To be sure. This happened to me. I was great at math and science and had moved two years ahead in science so I was taking Physics in 10th grade. Now here in 10th grade you take Geometry and basic trig. I can still remember my first day in physics the teacher drew a parabula . Instantly my hand goes up "whats a parabula? ". He was like what grade are you in and what are you doing here :laugh4: He says ok lets start with a vector then. Up goes the hand again:laugh4:

Don Corleone
06-13-2007, 17:04
It's possible to teach Physics without a rigorous background in Calculus (derivatives and integrals) but it's very difficult. I've frequently heard that the science progression taught in US High Schools: Biology->Chemistry->Physics is backwards. Most science teachers feel it should be taught Physics->Chemistry->Biology.

I also want to note that once again 'liberal' Europe leads the way. According to the NEA, standardized tests, the gist of this thread, are dangerous and serve no positive role. Allowing teachers to assign grades as they see fit, with no focus on curriciulum or objective evaluation of knowledge attained, the NEA argues is the only way for the education system to function.

NEA = National Education Association (the public school teacher's union).

ajaxfetish
06-13-2007, 20:21
Based on his letter, it sounds like they are trying to teach the students the philosophy of physics (not a bad thing in itself) and calling it physics (problematical). The two subjects should be clearly separated.

Ajax

AntiochusIII
06-13-2007, 22:46
It's possible to teach Physics without a rigorous background in Calculus (derivatives and integrals) but it's very difficult. I've frequently heard that the science progression taught in US High Schools: Biology->Chemistry->Physics is backwards. Most science teachers feel it should be taught Physics->Chemistry->Biology.(One of) my science teacher says that too. And I must admit, I agree with him: the preferred curriculum would have students go from micro to macro and connect the dots. The current curriculum has it the opposite way. Currently we go from saying that protein has nitrogen to what is nitrogen and eventually what makes up nitrogen. It moves from arguably the perceivable to the theoretical.

Though since my Physics class is "taught" by an incompetent I don't really have much to offer in opinion. What little I actually got to learn turns out to be quite fascinating even if I *hate* the homework load.

Ironside
06-14-2007, 09:04
I have a new ambition: BSc in Homeopathy.
I wonder how it will compare to the 5 year MChem in Chemistry I am to embark on come September... Long arduous lectures on scienfitic precision? Requirements of proof and experimental evidence? Expensive equipment to analyse compounds (water) in the end solution? Or just "Add water, guffaw at the naively pretension 'patients' and walk away with a wad of nice crisp banknotes?

Bah, the testing equipment will affect the water, making it lose it's special abilities and ruin the experiment. See a scientiffic solution why the effect can never be scientiffically explained. :book: ~;p


Though since my Physics class is "taught" by an incompetent I don't really have much to offer in opinion. What little I actually got to learn turns out to be quite fascinating even if I *hate* the homework load.

Reminds of the teacher for my Physics 1 at the university.
You needed to thorougly study the book to understand what he was talking about, aka the opposite on what the teacher is supposed to do.

Husar
06-14-2007, 11:42
Bah, the testing equipment will affect the water, making it lose it's special abilities and ruin the experiment. See a scientiffic solution why the effect can never be scientiffically explained. :book: ~;p
Reminds me of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc).:sweatdrop:

ah_dut
06-15-2007, 14:10
As a present ''victim'' of this education system I've got to agree with BKS: there are some really stupid questions but most of it makes sense as real physics. Maybe not with AQA if my Spanish test this year was anything to go by though ;)