Jaffa Battle too easy - here\'s why!

[DrNo]

Just found the problem with Jaffa Battle.

In the Saladin adf file you will find the unit that represents Saladin and is supposed to be the leader. It's the 8th one down the list and looks like this:

UnitStart::"Unit"
InitialLeaderName::"Sultan Saladin"
IsGeneral::false
Position:: 22106 8100
Direction::0
GeneralRank::4
LeaderHonour::4
UnitMon::1
TroopType::MamlukCavalry
TroopNum::120
TroopHonour::2
Columns::20
CurveRadius::1
FormationType::FORMATION_CLOSE
MeleeMode::ENGAGE_AT_WILL
FatigueLevel::FRESH
HoldPosition::true
GeneralIsDaimyo::true
ArmourLevel::0
WeaponLevel::0
UnitEnd::


So with General Rank 4 all units in his army should gain +2 honour, however they don't.

The reason is because of this line in the file:

IsGeneral::false

Change this to true for the Saladin unit to get the battle working as intended.

[oZoNeLaYeR]

lol u put the value to true and ur not going to win the battle. They are simply outnumbered the King Richard.

GO MTW!!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

[theforce]

It will be nearly impossible to win when they all get such honour.

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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!

[DrNo]

No one said the battle was supposed to be easy.
I lost on first attempt at it using same tatics that won very easily before.

I think this was how the developers intended it to be then thought better make it easy to encourage new people.

[LittleGrizzly]

i found the last battle all 2 easy on first go this should make it more challening thnx

[Hirosito]

i made it first time round as well prolly cos of the low honour and the armour you units get.

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Hirosito Mori

Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.

[HardRock]

yes very easy. but at first look , you are up against lots of units. If they had the same level things would be a lot different!

[DrNo]

Are people actually afraid of the challenge?

Having Saladin's army at honour 2 isn't such a problem.
Remember Spearmen get a very good bonus against cavalry and with the armour and weapons upgrades, Richard's troops are still well in advance of Saladins.

Also initially spearmen are lined up in just 2 rows. Change this to 3 to get maximum anti-cavalry effect.

[UglyJun]

i edited the file to "true" and all hell broke lose hehehe http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif on the second go i won with no prob but you realy got to watch your men hehehe http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
ps:just what the doctor orderd hehehe

[This message has been edited by Jun Tokugawa (edited 07-01-2002).]

[This message has been edited by Jun Tokugawa (edited 07-01-2002).]

[This message has been edited by Jun Tokugawa (edited 07-01-2002).]

[Puzz3D]

DrNo,

Very nice find. I'll certainly try it with the adjustment to Saladin. The original is rather easy, and when I played it from the other side I could see why. Saladin's army is all H0 except for one unit.

I don't think it's any mistake that Saladin's rank bonus was removed from the demo by CA. Imagine if most newcomers couldn't win the Jaffa battle after just going through the tutorial. It might hurt sales of the full game.

MizuYuuki ~~~

[DrNo]

Yes Puzz that's what I figured too, that make the game easy for newbies to entice a whole new range of players.

Not sure why they didn't just drop Saladins rank though and why the unit is the 8th one down.

I have a theory that they tested it and found this particular unit was a bit suicidal and would get Saladin killed, so they put him in here http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif.

[shingen]

really harder, but won it at first try http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

anyway nice, if i copy some texts i can add units?

cya
shingen

[1dread1lahll]

Yes, battle was too easy dispite my shock at the massive numbers. Anyone count the units? Is Sal getting off map reinforcements? Will we get the same in multi player?