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Emp. Conralius
07-04-2002, 07:06
Just a topic about the Faction's colors:

Byzantines- Purple w/ white
Turks- Green w/ orange
Danes- not sure
Russians- not sure
HRE/Germans- Black w/ gold
French- Blue w/ gold
English- Red w/ gold
Almohads- Orange w/ black
Saracens/Egyptians- Tan w/black
Spanish(Christian)- Yellow w/ red
Poland- Dark Red w/ white
Italians- Green w/ gold

Emp. Conralius
07-04-2002, 07:09
Some corrections:

Saracens/Egyptians- Tan w/ White
Danes- White w/ dark red


have yet to see the Russians...

Emp. Conralius
07-04-2002, 07:13
Just recently saw the full map! the Golden Horde starts out with a shit load of land! You'de think they'de be a playbe civ. (bronze)

Russia- some wierd shade of blue!

Gregoshi
07-04-2002, 09:40
STW: Hojo = richest clan = eastern clan = purple
MTW: Byzantines = richest faction = eastern faction = purple

Coincidence? Will we have the "Byzantine Horde" in MTW? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

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PSYCHO
07-04-2002, 14:20
hehe ...hope not Greg !

Cheers

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Darkmoor_Dragon
07-04-2002, 16:00
Quote Originally posted by Emp. Conralius:
Just recently saw the full map! the Golden Horde starts out with a shit load of land! You'de think they'de be a playbe civ. (bronze)

Russia- some wierd shade of blue![/QUOTE]

Golden Horde are actually an AI invasion in the periodic campaigns (full campaign) other than late period (must check they might also be an invasion then).. what this means is that its down to how well the AI copes with bashing them back as to how far they get on the map!!

On game ive seen them rreach france after the russians turned out to be a "Hollow shell" and the Poles and Byzantines both collapsed - I ended up fighting Mongol Hordes with my english in Flanders even!!!!

Next game i didn't even see them even though I'd conquered nicacea, constantinople and armenia... not a sign of em - guess the rushkies must've beaten back out of the first province or so and their invasion died a death. (THe Mongol AI uses a similar routine to STW:MI in that the more provinces it gets the bigger it gets - so if it gets hammered back early on it can be quashed - playing as the rushkies you always need to bear this in mind and makes it a REAL challenge for that faction)

Hirosito
07-04-2002, 22:20
cool info darkmoor, that's a neat way to handle the mogol invasions

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Hirosito Mori

Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
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Orda Khan
07-04-2002, 22:32
Some confusing colour combos --
White/dark red and dark red/white
Green/gold and green/orange
.....Ah well...
Mongols...in historcal campaign you can fight them. How about the reverse? You can't invade as Mongols, as in Shogun?
........Orda

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Emp. Conralius
07-04-2002, 23:24
DakmoorDragon, in the event when the mongols invade, they sprea like wildfire andwipe out a lot of theeatsern powers. Darkmoor could you send me that beta your playing?

Stephen Hummell
07-05-2002, 08:09
Russians/Light blue w/ a Golden eagle or White eagle i forget

Prodigy
07-05-2002, 11:55
I dont think light-blue with yellow eagle are "Russians". Some sreenshots show them having Templars, which Russians never did.

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Hirosito
07-05-2002, 20:38
i thought that could be maybe non-playable or hungarians maybe?

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Hirosito Mori

Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.

Emp. Conralius
07-05-2002, 21:25
They have to be Russians, if they were Hungarians, they'de to too far north.

Stephen Hummell
07-05-2002, 21:36
Maybe the Russians got mercenarys or took over the province you need to have to make templars.

Prodigy
07-06-2002, 00:32
Maybe, but that would be really strange. Light-blue color sertainly matches. I dont recall though Templars have ever been mercinaries, they were Worior Monks of Europe....... not mercinaries. Maybe Hospitalers, but not Templars.

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Emp. Conralius
07-06-2002, 00:39
Remeber that the Teutonic Knights conquered the lands west of Russia (parts of Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia).

Prodigy
07-06-2002, 05:06
I dont know what is your point Emp. Conralius..... but, anyways, I think Templar Khights are something that is only availible to the Catholic fractions in the game. At least that was in reality.

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Emp. Conralius
07-06-2002, 05:54
Prodigy, my point was that the Teutonic Knights conquered lands that were relatively close to Russia. I was toalking about the whole topic about the Russians having Templars.

Emp. Conralius
07-06-2002, 09:28
Are these historically accurate banners? We know a few are.

Prodigy
07-06-2002, 10:26
Emp. Conralius
I think you confuse Teutonic Khights with Templar ones. Templar were French and English, they had nothing to do with Teutonic Order. The same is in the game.

PS. Yes,this are historically accurate banners. CA has top historians sitting next to them.

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Emp. Conralius
07-06-2002, 10:36
at least he answers my questions! ood job Prodigy!

Emp. Conralius
07-06-2002, 10:41
I think the best Factions are England, Byzantium, and Turks. England has a pretty defendable homeland and have a well army. As do the Byzantines, who start off with a decent amount of land as well as an influence bonus and in Anotolia, can buy mercenaries at a cheaper price. Whereas the Turks get bonuses on their siege cannons and have lots of powerful infantry.