Circumcision Removes Most Sensitive Bits

[Lemur]

I know, if lemur isn't posting about torture or debt, it must be about circumcision. Couldn't find the old monster thread, so we'll just have to start a new one.

Anyway, there's a new study (http://www.livescience.com/health/070615_penis_sensitivity.html) that shows how vital the bits removed are. "Researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery."

I feel vindicated in my decision to leave my littlest lemur unchopped.


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Study: Circumcision Removes Most Sensitive Parts

By Ker Than, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 15 June 2007 12:53 pm ET

How much does circumcision alter what a man ultimately feels? Scientific studies aiming to answer this question have been inconclusive.

Now researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery.

The finding, announced today, was detailed in the April issue of the British Journal of Urology (BJU) International.

Circumcision surgery involves the removal of the skin that covers the tip of the penis, called the foreskin. Infant male circumcision is the most common medical procedure in the United States, with an estimated 60 percent of male newborns undergoing the surgery.

Morris Sorrells of National Organization of Circumcision Information Resources Center and colleagues created a “penile sensitivity map” by measuring the sensitivity of 19 locations on the penises of 159 male volunteers. Of the participants, 91 were circumcised as infants and none had histories of penile or sexual dysfunction.

For circumcised penises, the most sensitive region was the circumcision scar on the underside of the penis, the researchers found. For uncircumcised penises, the areas most receptive to pressure were five regions normally removed during circumcision—all of which were more sensitive than the most sensitive part of the circumcised penis.

Circumcision is a procedure practiced in several countries for medical as well as cultural reasons. Most scientists agree that the surgery confers some protection against infection and the risk of contracting sexual diseases. Recent studies have also shown that circumcision can lower the risks of HIV infection by as much as 60 percent in sex between males and females.

But Robert Van Howe, a study team member at Michigan State University, thinks such claims are somewhat overblown. “The [health benefits] that have been consistently shown are very small, and there are less aggressive, less invasive, less expensive ways of dealing with the problems [circumcision] is supposed to address,” Van Howe told LiveScience.

Other practices, such as choosing sexual partners wisely and using condoms consistently, are far more effective in protecting against diseases, he added.

Circumcision is opposed by some groups on the grounds that it is painful and not a life-saving procedure, and that it also makes sex less pleasurable by exposing and numbing the tip of the penis, called the glans. Some have gone so far as recommending foreskin restoration.

Some previous studies found that circumcision led to little, if any, decrease in penile sensitivity, but Sorrells and his colleagues say such findings are suspect because many are based on self-reports from men who were circumcised to correct medical problems.

[Strike For The South]

I hate my mum:thumbsdown:

HATE!

I honestly think Im missing out on so much

[CountArach]

*Shakes head*

All that wasted skin... Its just so hard to think about.

[Strike For The South]

*Shakes head*

All that wasted skin... Its just so hard to think about.

swing....and a miss.

[CountArach]

Intentional.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

"Researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery."


I would think it to be an advantage when you are young and inexperienced :laugh4:

It also explains why Christians do it. People masturbate too often already.:laugh4: Lets not encourage them :clown:

http://msghelp.net/images/smilies/guillotine.gif

From Robin Hood Men in tights


Rabbi Tuckman: [referring to a circumcision] The ladies love it!
Rabbi Tuckman: I am Rabbi Tuckman, purveyor of sacramental wine and moyel extraordinaire.
Robin Hood: What's a moyel?
Rabbi Tuckman: Moyel? He's a very important guy. He makes circumcisions.
Robin Hood: And what, pray tell, sir, is a circumcision?
Rabbi Tuckman: It's the latest craze. The ladies love it!
Achoo: I'll take one.
Little John: I'll take two!
Robin Hood: I'm game, how's it done?
Rabbi Tuckman: [pulls out a carrot and a miniature guillotine, and sticks the end of the carrot into the hole] I take my machine here, I take your little thing, I put it through this hole, and then,
[releases the blade, cutting the end off the carrot]
Rabbi Tuckman: I nip the tip! Whose first?
Little John: I changed my mind!
Blinkin: Christian!
Achoo: I forgot, I already got one!

[Strike For The South]

Intentional.

How convienent

:laugh4:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

How convienent

And as we said true. Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy. :laugh4:

[Reverend Joe]

Wait... is this supposed to be bad news? Wouldn't this be all good news? I mean, if circumcision lengthens the amount of time required to...

I should stop.

Oh, I can't resist... now I have something on all you uncircumcised Christian heathens.

...Or something off, rather. :laugh4:

[Gregoshi]

Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy. :laugh4:
My thoughts exactly.

I have become comfortably numb.

[Strike For The South]

:laugh4:
My thoughts exactly.

I have become comfortably numb.

Best pun ever

/E-hug :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[Papewaio]

And as we said true. Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy. :laugh4:

So by your equation:

Trigger Time = 'Max Pleasure Quota' / 'Pleasure per unit of time'

But what if with control

Trigger Time proportional to 'Pleasure per unit of time'... so more pleasure and longer lasting.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Originally Posted by Gregoshi
My thoughts exactly.

I have become comfortably numb.

Now that gives a whole new meaning to my favorite song of all time. It will never be the same. Thanks m8. :laugh4:

I wonder when the Weird Al version is coming out?

[Ianofsmeg16]

I wonder when the Weird Al version is coming out?
"I have become, annoyingly dumb"

Comfortably Numb, The George W. Bush remix.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I know, if lemur isn't posting about torture or debt, it must be about circumcision. Couldn't find the old monster thread, so we'll just have to start a new one.

Anyway, there's a new study (http://www.livescience.com/health/070615_penis_sensitivity.html) that shows how vital the bits removed are. "Researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery."

I feel vindicated in my decision to leave my littlest lemur unchopped.

Study: Circumcision Removes Most Sensitive Parts

By Ker Than, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 15 June 2007 12:53 pm ET

How much does circumcision alter what a man ultimately feels? Scientific studies aiming to answer this question have been inconclusive.

Now researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery.

The finding, announced today, was detailed in the April issue of the British Journal of Urology (BJU) International.

Circumcision surgery involves the removal of the skin that covers the tip of the penis, called the foreskin. Infant male circumcision is the most common medical procedure in the United States, with an estimated 60 percent of male newborns undergoing the surgery.

Morris Sorrells of National Organization of Circumcision Information Resources Center and colleagues created a “penile sensitivity map” by measuring the sensitivity of 19 locations on the penises of 159 male volunteers. Of the participants, 91 were circumcised as infants and none had histories of penile or sexual dysfunction.

For circumcised penises, the most sensitive region was the circumcision scar on the underside of the penis, the researchers found. For uncircumcised penises, the areas most receptive to pressure were five regions normally removed during circumcision—all of which were more sensitive than the most sensitive part of the circumcised penis.

Circumcision is a procedure practiced in several countries for medical as well as cultural reasons. Most scientists agree that the surgery confers some protection against infection and the risk of contracting sexual diseases. Recent studies have also shown that circumcision can lower the risks of HIV infection by as much as 60 percent in sex between males and females.

But Robert Van Howe, a study team member at Michigan State University, thinks such claims are somewhat overblown. “The [health benefits] that have been consistently shown are very small, and there are less aggressive, less invasive, less expensive ways of dealing with the problems [circumcision] is supposed to address,” Van Howe told LiveScience.

Other practices, such as choosing sexual partners wisely and using condoms consistently, are far more effective in protecting against diseases, he added.

Circumcision is opposed by some groups on the grounds that it is painful and not a life-saving procedure, and that it also makes sex less pleasurable by exposing and numbing the tip of the penis, called the glans. Some have gone so far as recommending foreskin restoration.

Some previous studies found that circumcision led to little, if any, decrease in penile sensitivity, but Sorrells and his colleagues say such findings are suspect because many are based on self-reports from men who were circumcised to correct medical problems.
I'm hardly surprised. Circumcision is a religious-sadistic ritual to suppress the male sexuality, just like female circumcision is a ritual to suppress female sexuality. Good that the study has been presented, so that at least medical research can finally start devising an alternative surgery (that doesn't remove the senses) for those who do it for non-religious reasons. Also, that it will finally not be considered any better than Clitoridectomy. Perhaps this will be the start of a campaign against the oppression of men in the cultures that use circumcision.

[doc_bean]

And as we said true. Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy. :laugh4:

I don't have a problem with that.

Also: Greg somebody beat you to that pun by a couple of years, although then it was about masturbation :laugh4:

[Ironside]

Circumcision surgery involves the removal of the skin that covers the tip of the penis, called the foreskin. Infant male circumcision is the most common medical procedure in the United States, with an estimated 60 percent of male newborns undergoing the surgery.

So uhm, how did the USA end up in Bizzaro World in this issue? :dizzy2: :inquisitive:

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Well, if you want to last longer it's probably easier to rub a little topical anaesthetic on then, say, getting circumcised. The former's more reversible.

[Grey_Fox]

I'm hardly surprised. Circumcision is a religious-sadistic ritual to suppress the male sexuality, just like female circumcision is a ritual to suppress female sexuality. Good that the study has been presented, so that at least medical research can finally start devising an alternative surgery (that doesn't remove the senses) for those who do it for non-religious reasons. Also, that it will finally not be considered any better than Clitoridectomy. Perhaps this will be the start of a campaign against the oppression of men in the cultures that use circumcision.

I'm almost tempted to tell you what you could do, but I won't. I'm circumcised and never had a problem with it. I don't want somebody else to tell me that I've been brutalised, mutilated or oppressed, and indeed if you said that to me face to face I'd have no problem punching you.

And no that isn't an inferiority complex speaking.

And no, I don't feel 'numb'. I enjoy sex very much thank you, and I like the fact that there's no bacterial growth on my penis.

[Reverend Joe]

@Grey Fox: I'm pretty sure Legio was joking... "oppression of men in cultures that use circumcision?" Come on. :laugh4:

@Lemur: You really should have your kid(s?) clipped. If nothing else whatsoever, it greatly reduces the odor. Hate to be crude, but it's true.

Besides which, who is really going to want to rub on some "topical anesthetic" before sex? "Excuse me, lover, whilst I rub some cream onto my penis, and then we can get going." :inquisitive:

[HoreTore]

@Lemur: You really should have your kid(s?) clipped. If nothing else whatsoever, it greatly reduces the odor. Hate to be crude, but it's true.

I'd say soap is an easier way of doing it. My schnauser smells perfectly well.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Circumcision is a religious-sadistic ritual to suppress the male sexuality, just like female circumcision is a ritual to suppress female sexuality. Very much so.

It originated as a religious-sexual ritual to emphasize male sexuality. Like female mutilation, it belongs to the Nile / Red Sea basin. Where men used to be able to walk around naked, proudly swinging their exposed red knob at other men to emphasize their masculinity.
Circumcision has no place in societies where men don't routinely flaunt their willy to impress other men. (Yes, it's to impress men, not women).

It is a religious, not a medical practice. The Jews and many Muslims do it, along with some scattered stone-age tribes, and the Americans. The puritan Americans started this brutal practice at the end of the 19th century. The object is to remove the sensitive, moving parts so boys would be less inclined to play with their toys.

Circumcision can lead to many medical complications during the circumcision itself, and often creates later problems, while the hygienic and preventative benefits are non-existent for first-world peoples with access to condoms and clean water.

[Lorenzo_H]

This conversation is gross and making me shudder uncontrolably.

It reminds me of this one guy who's circumcision went wrong; the whole thing got cut off, so his parents decided to raise him as a girl.

I'm fighting not to vomit as I (try not to) think about it.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I don't have a problem with that.

Well maybe you could still do better :laugh4: You will never know until you try it . Then if your married you can get an unbiased opinion from your wife.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I'm almost tempted to tell you what you could do, but I won't. I'm circumcised and never had a problem with it. I don't want somebody else to tell me that I've been brutalised, mutilated or oppressed, and indeed if you said that to me face to face I'd have no problem punching you.

And no that isn't an inferiority complex speaking.

And no, I don't feel 'numb'. I enjoy sex very much thank you, and I like the fact that there's no bacterial growth on my penis.
I'm circumcised myself so I know what I'm talking about. I used to brag about cleanness and "sex lasts longer" when I was still in my denial phase, but I now realize how pathetic I was at that time. It's not at all cleaner, unless you live in a desert without water to clean yourself, and women don't have a problem with the length of intercourse with most unmutilated men, if at all it lasts longer with mutilated penis, it's a diluted experience. "Clean" and "long lasting sex" were excuses I used to accept my condition.

I don't need a random stranger on the Internet telling me that he'll punch me in the face when I say I feel repressed and deprived of my human rights after this mutilation. How many people do I need to hear telling me that it's not normal to feel mutilated - here I'm even threatened with violence over it. I think people who have suffered such mutilation should receive support to get past the denial state, rather than being scared into keeping the frustration inside and feeling increasingly traumatized. I'm glad this study has finally proven that circumcision is mutilation, and that other circumcised people, as well as some unmutilated people, can stop calling me abnormal for feeling mutilated and repressed, and that I can receive support to live a normal life despite this. And that perhaps states will invest money into researching organ regeneration to find a way of perhaps reversing this mentally painful condition. And that people who do circumcision for non-religious reasons receive alternate treatments, such as possibly removing only the upper 10th of the foreskin, rather than all of it, or similar. And that society fairly either takes stance against both male and female genital mutilation (in the name of human rights), or none of them (in the name of religious tolerance).

[Rodion Romanovich]

@Grey Fox: I'm pretty sure Legio was joking... "oppression of men in cultures that use circumcision?" Come on. :laugh4:

I wasn't joking

[Lemur]

So uhm, how did the USA end up in Bizzaro World in this issue? :dizzy2: :inquisitive:
I researched the heck out of this when I was deciding what to do with my boy lemur. Basically, circumcision was really uncommon in the U.S.A. until the early 20th century, when it was promoted as an anti-masturbation measure. That was the first argument put forward. By the '40s and '50s it was said to be an essential hygenic step. These days they say it's a great way to prevent cancer of the foreskin, and stop aids.

It's good to be suspicious when the rationales keep changing but the goal stays static.

[Reverend Joe]

:inquisitive: Holy crap, you really weren't... wow.

Seriously, man, it sounds like you have some very weird sexual issues that you are expressing via your hatred of circumcision. Please, go see a psychologist and bother us not with your surreal rants.

[doc_bean]

Well maybe you could still do better :laugh4: You will never know until you try it . Then if your married you can get an unbiased opinion from your wife.

I'm not worried, sex can be exhausting for the woman too, you know and they don't always want it to go on forever.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I don't need a random stranger on the Internet telling me that he'll punch me in the face when I say I feel repressed and deprived of my human rights after this mutilation. How many people do I need to hear telling me that it's not normal to feel mutilated

Seriouly this sounds like a physiological problem. How many here remember being circumcized? :laugh4: All that counts is what your woman thinks.

[doc_bean]

Seriouly this sounds like a physiological problem. How many here remember being circumcized? :laugh4: All that counts is what your woman thinks.

I don't want to suggest anything that's not based on fact or logic, but...circumcision makes some men unable to orgasm or unable to enjoy sex at all (physically).

I also don't really understand what all these comments about women have to do with it, it's not like they feel the difference...

[Rodion Romanovich]

Seriouly this sounds like a physiological problem. How many here remember being circumcized? :laugh4: All that counts is what your woman thinks.
So men are not allowed to enjoy sex in your society?

[Rodion Romanovich]

Seriously, man, it sounds like you have some very weird sexual issues that you are expressing via your hatred of circumcision. Please, go see a psychologist and bother us not with your surreal rants.
Unlike people who were mutilated as babies, I know the difference in sexual sensibility by experience. Maybe you should go see a phycologist for insisting that people should have the most important part of their penis cut off, and trying to call me mentally ill for opposing your view. I'm tired of random strangers calling me abnormal for openly admitting that I've suffered from and been reppressed by this mutilation. It's like calling a raped woman abnormal for suffering afterwards.

I don't mind if you mutilate yourself and your children, I will respect it and won't try to stop it. But for God's sake don't try to hide and deny that it removes sexual sensitivity, to prevent the circumcision for non-religious purposes from being replaced by an alternate, less mutilating surgery or medication. And give other people a chance to decide whether to be mutilated or not when they've reached a high enough age to make decisions for themselves.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I also don't really understand what all these comments about women have to do with it, it's not like they feel the difference...Oh but they do feel it. Uncircumcised ones are wider in the area where it counts. ~;)



and they don't always want it to go on forever.Maybe with you they don't...~;p

[/machismo ]

[Strike For The South]

ok guys it really isnt that big of a deal. Im pretty sure sex is an enjoyable experenice for all of us. No need to be at each others throats about wether you have a hood or not

[Gawain of Orkeny]

So men are not allowed to enjoy sex in your society?

I enjoy it. Whats your problem? Did they mess up and take an extra inch? :laugh4:


I know the difference in sexual sensibility by experience\

So just when were you circumsized? How can you know what your missing? Hell if I felt any better Id explode. :laugh4: I dont know if I could take any more.

[Grey_Fox]

I am NOT going to have what I should and shouldnt feel and think dictated to me. I am intelligent, I am not denying anything. I have not had any problems with being circumcised. I have never been ridiculed or made fun of because of it.

You want to feel oppressed and mutilated, that's your business, but do not dare shove it down anybody else's throat (is that a pun?)

[doc_bean]

Maybe with you they don't...~;p

[/machismo ]

Heh, I was expecting that one.

I think all this 'last longer' talk is just about bragging rights and not really about pelasuring women. Honestly, am I supposed to believe that pleasuring a woman is the sole/main reason a guy should:would have sex ? Well, maybe after the marriage...

[Rodion Romanovich]

I am NOT going to have what I should and shouldnt feel and think dictated to me. I am intelligent, I am not denying anything. I have not had any problems with being circumcised. I have never been ridiculed or made fun of because of it.

You want to feel oppressed and mutilated, that's your business, but do not dare shove it down anybody else's throat (is that a pun?)
I'm not trying to make you feel mutilated, I'm fighting for my right to not be called abnormal when I feel mutilated about losing the most important part of my penis. You even threatened to punch me in the face.

[Strike For The South]

I'm not trying to make you feel mutilated, I'm fighting for my right to not be called abnormal when I feel mutilated about losing the most important part of my penis. You even threatened to punch me in the face.

Man you are blowing this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. Calm down dude it really doesnt matter at all.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I'm fighting for my right to not be called abnormal when I feel mutilated about losing the most important part of my penis.

Well most people dont feel that way so in this case you are abnormal. Again I suggest you seek proffesional help.

[Grey_Fox]

I threatened to punch you if you dared to tell me that I was mutilated or brutalised. You can feel however you want, but do not start insulting me.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Man you are blowing this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. Calm down dude it really doesnt matter at all.
Yes it does, it's a third of my life. Life consists of survival, sex, and getting children. Given how hopeless and harsh economical survival situation is becoming in the western world with all right wing policies and aggressive economic competition, and global warming/environmental destruction is ruining future generation survivals, what is left? Survival taken by right wingers, sex taken by penis mutilation, children taken by environmental destructions. Only thing I ever had a chance of enjoying in this society was sex, but that ability is almost gone now.

[Gregoshi]

A moment of reflection: I've not been tracking the bickering too closely, but are the circumcised participants being too insensitive and the uncircumcised being overly sensitive, or is the verbal squabbling independent of their circumcision status? :inquisitive:



Also: Greg somebody beat you to that pun by a couple of years, although then it was about masturbation :laugh4:

:shame:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Damn now Im really wondering how much they lopped of this poor dude.:shame:


but are the circumcised participants being too insensitive and the uncircumcised being overly sensitive, or is the verbal squabbling independent of their circumcision status?

Is that supposed to be funny ? Because it sure made me chuckle.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I threatened to punch you if you dared to tell me that I was mutilated or brutalised. You can feel however you want, but do not start insulting me.
I never did. You must be paranoid.

[Strike For The South]

Yes it does, it's a third of my life. Given how hopeless and harsh economical survival situation is becoming in the western world with all right wing policies and aggressive economic competion, and global warming/environmental destruction is ruining future generation survivals, what is left? Survival taken by right wingers, sex taken by penis mutilation, children taken by environmental destructions. Only thing I ever had a chance of enjoying was sex, but that ability is almost gone now.

Quit being such a damn drama queen. Sex isnt all about the phyiscal aspect (well if your drunk but i digress) if you honestly like the girl your gonna enjoy it on a whole nother levela nd you'll still feel it dude. If you are using your circumsized penis are a crutch you are just being retarded go out and live life man. You say its all gonna end so got out and live dont bitch!

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Yeah stand up like a man. ......That is if you still can :laugh4:

[Grey_Fox]

Get professional help.

If you can't have sex, it means you have a mental issue. Getting a circumcision does not stop you froom getting an erection, ejaculate, feel pleasure or orgasm (which is caused by ejaculation - men always orgasm, it's our advantage).

[Rodion Romanovich]

My thesis is that religious tolerance and admitting the truth (and tolerating individuals) can be combined. I would be the first to fight religious intolerance if it were to settle in my country, but right now, intolerance of individuals is the only problem present.

[Lemur]

Are the circumcised participants being too insensitive and the uncircumcised being overly sensitive?
You, sir, are a madman. A madman!:laugh4:


My thesis is that religious tolerance and admitting the truth (and tolerating individuals) can be combined. I would be the first to fight religious intolerance if it were to settle in my country, but right now, intolerance of individuals is the only problem present.
You're freakin' me out, man. What does this have to do with the topic in hand?

[Rodion Romanovich]

You're freakin' me out, man. What does this have to do with the topic in hand?
People traditionally deny that circumcision removes important sensory nerves because they fear religious intolerance may be the result of the opposite. I don't think there's any such danger, and if there were, I'd be prepared to fight such a danger, and therefore I think my position is justified no matter what possible outcome propagating for admitting this simple truth would have. Is it now clear how this is related to the topic?

[Louis VI the Fat]

The police caught a doctor today suspected of cutting foreskins off without the patient's consent. They had to let him go after the evidence was deemed circumstantial.
And did you hear about this short-sighted circumciser last year? He got the sack.

:sweatdrop:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

People traditionally deny that circumcision removes important sensory nerves because they fear religious intolerance may be the result of the opposite

No they dont. As we said thats exactly the purpose.

[King Henry V]

Heh, I was expecting that one.

I think all this 'last longer' talk is just about bragging rights and not really about pelasuring women. Honestly, am I supposed to believe that pleasuring a woman is the sole/main reason a guy should:would have sex ? Well, maybe after the marriage...
Well I suppose you could put it this way: satisfied customers come back for more.

Personally, I find this thread hilarious. I'm just waiting for "Penis Rights" to be shouted out any time soon.

Edit: It would be interesting to see statistics about the rate of penile cancer in Jewish and Muslim men.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I'm just waiting for "Penis Rights" to be shouted out any time soon

Let me be the first to stand up for Penis Rights

[Pannonian]

You're freakin' me out, man. What does this have to do with the topic in hand?
I believe that was one of the reasons the religious fanatics promoted the chop, to prevent the topic from getting into the hand.

[doc_bean]

Personally, I find this thread hilarious. I'm just waiting for "Penis Rights" to be shouted out any time soon.


I nearly went there :shame:

[Reverend Joe]

Okay, I think we really need to stick to amusing puns about circumcision, because the other thread of conversation in this thread is not going good places.

[Gregoshi]

In light of this thread, one has to wonder what professional golfers are really playing for in the Skins Game. :sweatdrop:

[Louis VI the Fat]

In light of this thread, one has to wonder what professional golfers are really playing for in the Skins Game. :sweatdrop:I bet they're shouting: "Fore!...skins game going on!"

[Rodion Romanovich]

No they dont. As we said thats exactly the purpose.
So you're saying important sensory nerves are removed on purpose? In that case, you live in a society that is clearly reppressive towards the male sexuality and the rights of males. In that case, it's ridiculous for people like you to go tell Islamists who oppress women are any worse than yourself.

What happened to "balance between masculine and feminine"?

[HoreTore]

orgasm (which is caused by ejaculation - men always orgasm, it's our advantage).

Not true.

1. We can ejaculate without orgasm.
2. It's very possible to have sex without ejaculation at all, for example when you've gone on for a long time while holding it back, and you're(or the gal) simply too tired for the final push.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

How do you circumcise a whale?
Send down four skin divers.

Did you hear about the 'circumcisor' who kept the old foreskins and made a wallet out of them?

If you rub it, it turns into a briefcase.


Did you hear about the short-sighted circumciser?
He got the sac(k)!

This little 7 year old boy was sitting at his desk in school and he was squirming and squirming around. Finally the teacher asks him what is wrong.
He tells her he is sore because he just got circumsised yesterday.

She tells him to go and see the principal. He goes to the principal and comes back 5 minutes later with his penis hanging out of his fly.

The teacher is outraged and asked him the meaning of this type of behaviour.

He says "The principal asked me to see if I could stick it out until the end of the school day"!!!!!


A handsome young lad went into the hospital for some minor surgery and the day after the procedure, a friend stopped by to see how the guy was doing. The friend was amazed at the number of Nurses who entered the room in short intervals with refreshments, offers to fluff his pillows, make the bed, give back rubs, etc. "Why all the attention ?" the friend asked. "You look fine to me."

"I know " grinned the patient. "But the Nurses kinda formed a little fan club when they all heard that my circumcision required twenty-seven
stitches."

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I would say one of them ain benefits of having a foreskin is masturbation. Let's be honest, everyone has a tug once in a while, and it makes it considerably easier.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I would say one of them ain benefits of having a foreskin is masturbation. Let's be honest, everyone has a tug once in a while, and it makes it considerably easier.

How is that an advantage? I never had any problem :laugh4:

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I was always under the impression you had to use a lubricant if you were circumcised, which sounds like a hassle. Whereas if you aren't, the foreskin is effectively a lubricant.

[Ironside]

I researched the heck out of this when I was deciding what to do with my boy lemur. Basically, circumcision was really uncommon in the U.S.A. until the early 20th century, when it was promoted as an anti-masturbation measure. That was the first argument put forward. By the '40s and '50s it was said to be an essential hygenic step. These days they say it's a great way to prevent cancer of the foreskin, and stop aids.

It's good to be suspicious when the rationales keep changing but the goal stays static.

Well, if I've understood US politics properly there's 2 groups that want it to stay. Those who came up with it in the first place and the ones that the answer on the question "how much does it cost?" matter...

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I was always under the impression you had to use a lubricant if you were circumcised, which sounds like a hassle.

Yeah spit is hard to come by :laugh4:

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Um, I hadn't considered that. Fair enough, I suppose.

:sweatdrop:

[Louis VI the Fat]

You even threatened to punch me in the face. Well he's just a hoodie for saying that!

But seriously. I'm sorry to hear you have such a problem with being circumcised. I'd love to give you a 'tip' to make it easier on you...


Sorry for tossing all those bad puns around. But they, unlike the circumcised, come so easily.

[Whacker]

I was always under the impression you had to use a lubricant if you were circumcised, which sounds like a hassle. Whereas if you aren't, the foreskin is effectively a lubricant.

Where the :daisy: did you hear that one from?? :dizzy2: I guess wangcheese is supposed to be a lubricant?? :laugh4: J/K

As for the topic, for once I actually agree with STFS, this isn't a big deal.

I'm cut, and if I had a choice I'd go back and do it again in a heartbeat. My future boys (if I have any) will be cut as well. As for my honest opinion, I think non-circumsized wangs look wierd and freakish, but that's just my personal opinion. I don't think there's anything wrong medically with either from my limited reading on this, though uncut guys do need to be more concious of hygiene.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Hah, amusingly appropriate name considering the topic. It does make sense though, your hand is in contact with your forsekin rather than your glans, and the foreskin glides over your glans smoothly-at least, it should do normally. So there's less friction and you don't need a lubricant.

Personally, I like my foreskin. But, if I didn't, I'd just get it done now, and be glad my parents gave me the choice, rather than making it for me when I was a baby.

[Reverend Joe]

I guess wangcheese is supposed to be a lubricant?? :laugh4:
Oh god. :sick: I was really trying not to think about that.

I still don't see what the big deal is, anyway. You're either chopped or you're not. Just deal with it.

[Lemur]

It becomes a big deal if/when you have a male baby. For an adult male, it's a bit of a non-issue. There's no point in getting worked up or being thin-skinned about the end result.

But the cut was a long-standing debate between me and Mrs. Lemur, with months of back-and-forth on the subject. She wanted the son to look like the father, while my argument was summed by saying that doing something because it's been done before is the blindest, stupidest sort of traditionalism.

You can always take away, but you can never give back. So if Max decides he wants to get chopped in in 2022, that's his business. In the meantime, I will first do no harm.

[Husar]

Lately, my doctor thought I might have a medical problem down there(phimosis) which might have resulted in a chop, but when I went to the specialist(urologist?), he only found another irregularity which is only of cosmetic nature and we both agreed that that is no problem(the erm "hole" is somewhat underneath instead of on the tip of my penis, it's always been that way and I always thought it was normal, according to the doctor, many want that to be treated just because they don't want to be different but erm, well...).
Oh and my point was that I wasn't worried.:sweatdrop:

Didn't know that circumcision was that common in the US, I think my parents didn't even consider it.

Oh, and I liked those puns Louis and Gawain.:laugh4:

[Gregoshi]

Based on thread title alone it appears that this topic and "More Moore or Less Moore? A Question of Healthcare." should be merged. :inquisitive:

[Rodion Romanovich]

Well he's just a hoodie for saying that!

But seriously. I'm sorry to hear you have such a problem with being circumcised. I'd love to give you a tip to make it easier on you...


Sorry for tossing all those bad puns around. It's just that, when it's about circumcision, they come so easy.
Hehe, no problem :2thumbsup:

[KukriKhan]

Based on thread title alone it appears that this topic and "More Moore or Less Moore? A Question of Healthcare." should be merged. :inquisitive:

I know you won't believe me, but my first reading of the topic title had the last word as "Brits" - and I thought: "What has Lemur got up to now??!?"

[PanzerJaeger]

I think circumcision messed me up. I have no problems pleasing a partner, and its definitely pleasurable for me, but I can never "finish". Maybe its psychological, I dont know why it would be though. :dizzy2:

[Strike For The South]

I think circumcision messed me up. I have no problems pleasing a partner, and its definitely pleasurable for me, but I can never "finish". Maybe its psychological, I dont know why it would be though. :dizzy2:

Well being the doctor I am Id out my money on a simple case of mind over matter.

[lars573]

And no, I don't feel 'numb'. I enjoy sex very much thank you, and I like the fact that there's no bacterial growth on my penis.
On that your ineligible for comment. You don't know the difference, you were mutilated (if female curcumcision is multilation then so is male) as an infant. You litterally don't know the difference, and you can't ever know. Neither do I though, for the opposite reason. My brother however said sex isn't as good (for him) without the foreskin. But he's since over come his self inflicted hadicap.

Oh, and in case your wondering I never got mine more than half way back. Then my knees give out and my eyes roll back into my head from the sensory over load.

[Strike For The South]

Grey Fox why do you care about what these guys think? You seem to be taking allot of offense over a thread that should be nothing more than puns

[HoreTore]

On that your ineligible for comment. You don't know the difference, you were mutilated (if female curcumcision is multilation then so is male) as an infant. You litterally don't know the difference, and you can't ever know. Neither do I though, for the opposite reason. My brother however said sex isn't as good (for him) without the foreskin. But he's since over come his self inflicted hadicap.

Oh, and in case your wondering I never got mine more than half way back. Then my knees give out and my eyes roll back into my head from the sensory over load.

Haha! I remember I thought I broke the damn thing when I finally managed to roll mine out completely... But then, I was around 8 at the time :laugh4:

I'd advise you to take it slowly, a millimeter a day or something. The skin under the foreskin has never been exposed to air, and so it needs some time to adjust.

Oh and as for female/male circumcision, they are two quite different things. The male version removes a small part, the female version often includes sewing the thing shut, and causes a whole bunch of issues, like diseases, as it's not very easy to clean the thing....

[Fwapper]

I'm sure there are other factors that influence how good sex is more than circumcision, so I don't really see why it's worth arguing with people about it.

If and when I have children... I'll leave them intact simply because I don't particually want to go cutting bits of them off, and also circumcision is rather rare in the UK, and even rarer up here in Scotland, so circumsised children tend to be mocked. (Which brings back memories of one boy who got taunted with the words "Skin's in the bin, skin's in the bin" over and over...)

[Grey_Fox]

What the hell do you know Lars? I don't think I've been mutilated, so who the hell gave you permission to insult me and my intelligence?

[Banquo's Ghost]

I think that this discussion has run its course and tempers are becoming frayed.

Consider it cut off.

:closed: