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PenguinLobster
06-20-2007, 22:34
The strongest I've seen are the persian archers and they've won atleast half my battles, nothing kills morale like shooting flaming arrows into the back of a phalanx. Are their any with better range or power then Persians? Or even better are their any archers that can also fight as infantry?

Centurio Nixalsverdrus
06-20-2007, 22:36
Syrians are the best archers, and Cretans are the best in melee.

Fondor_Yards
06-20-2007, 22:44
Nah, Komatai Agrianai are better in meele, they use celtic longswords thus=super ownage.

I'd say Syrians are the best, with Komatai Agrianai in a close 2nd.

blank
06-20-2007, 22:51
Nah, Komatai Agrianai are better in meele, they use celtic longswords thus=super ownage.


Don't the Komatai use the sica blade?

Kralizec
06-20-2007, 22:54
Horse archers, of couse ~D

I'm not entirely sure, but the various nomad horse archers (Scythians, Sarmations and others) may have an even higher missile value then the Syrians.
They Syrians are still better though because of their armour and shields. The Elamite archers are quite good also.

The Cretans have good stats but they have only 60 men (versus 80, large unit size) wich is a rather large disadvantage.

Watchman
06-20-2007, 22:56
Don't the Komatai use the sica blade?The javelin-tossing kind do. The Agrianai diss them for being Old Skool and show off their bling-bling Celtic longswords. :beam:

Pharnakes
06-20-2007, 23:12
The syrinas aren't the best archers, they have missile 4, so do archer spearmen, most other eastern and steppe foot achers have 5 (including indians), and Kretikoi have 6.

Kralizec
06-20-2007, 23:23
The syrinas aren't the best archers, they have missile 4, so do archer spearmen, most other eastern and steppe foot achers have 5 (including indians), and Kretikoi have 6.

I've just taken at look at Arkatreides' relevant unit card (https://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eg5gy7.jpg).

The Cretans indeed have a higher missile value compared to the Syrians: 6 versus 4, however they have only 20 arrows versus 25. They also have significantly less armour, from the looks of it they'd get butchered by the Syrians. And that's not even considering the fact that they have less men per unit.

Watchman
06-20-2007, 23:40
I've seen one unit of Syrians on a hill virtually wipe out two full units of Shuban Fradakshana (the eastern slinger guys) in a straight firefight - all the while all but ignoring the arrows no less than two units of mercenary steppe horse-archers poured into them. Eventually I simply ran out of ammunition and had to go dig out those guys (and their spearman mates) the hard way.

Infantry archers + decent armour = Teh Win.

Sakkura
06-20-2007, 23:58
I've just taken at look at Arkatreides' relevant unit card (https://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eg5gy7.jpg).

The Cretans indeed have a higher missile value compared to the Syrians: 6 versus 4, however they have only 20 arrows versus 25. They also have significantly less armour, from the looks of it they'd get butchered by the Syrians. And that's not even considering the fact that they have less men per unit.
Well the Cretans still have more men per mnai than the Syrians. But for an archery duel the Syrians would surely win due to the armor, as well as more arrows and longer range.

keravnos
06-21-2007, 16:03
The best archers are T...:oops:

Sorry, guys, you gotta wait a while to see them.

LusitanianWolf
06-21-2007, 16:09
The best archers are T.

Sorry, guys, you gotta wait a while to see them.
:dizzy2:
You guys realy love to let us in ignorance and desesperated....:clown:

Intranetusa
06-21-2007, 16:17
What about Imperial auxillary archers? They look pretty cool with their heavy chainmail armor...

Imperator
06-21-2007, 16:24
The best archers are T...

Sorry, guys, you gotta wait a while to see them.
:furious3:
damn the EB team for constantly making new units! There's always some insanely cool new feature or unit that we don't know about!

Kralizec
06-22-2007, 12:56
The best archers are T...:oops:

Sorry, guys, you gotta wait a while to see them.

Thanvare...?
Some kind of semi-elite Iranian archer?
:thinking2:

The Persian Cataphract
06-22-2007, 13:11
The best archers are T...:oops:

Sorry, guys, you gotta wait a while to see them.

Really? Actually Keravnos, the best archers are actually the other T... ~:joker:

Pharnakes
06-22-2007, 13:38
Thanvare...?
Some kind of semi-elite Iranian archer?
:thinking2:


My guess is toxotai something or other.

Batahr
06-22-2007, 14:47
My guess is toxotai something or other.

Toxotai Spartiatai ~D

Teleklos Archelaou
06-22-2007, 20:30
The best archers are so cool they don't even use their bow. I kid you not.

LusitanianWolf
06-22-2007, 21:40
Teleklos Archelaou The best archers are so cool they don't even use their bow. I kid you not.
Lot theres lots of Heavy armoured cavalry that have bows but dont use them... Theres one (Scytian nobles, I think) that even count as missile cavalry, have an bow and fight with the spear/sword combo :clown:

But the best new cool archers that dont use their bows.... Mabe toxotai elephantoi catraphactoi (or something similar, :clown: )... How do you need an bow when you can just smash your enemys like bugs? :laugh4: :2thumbsup:

Watchman
06-22-2007, 21:45
The best archers are so cool they don't even use their bow. I kid you not.How zen.

blank
06-22-2007, 21:55
The best archers are so cool they don't even use their bow. I kid you not.

yeah they use a sniper rifle

bovi
06-22-2007, 22:21
Fireball, cone of cold and lightning storms.

Watchman
06-22-2007, 22:30
Squamous blast.

Imperator
06-22-2007, 23:44
If only "gastraphetes" started with a letter "t" :wall:

Pharnakes
06-23-2007, 00:04
Toxotai gastraphetes:laugh4:


See, I told you it would be toxotai something...

Lovejoy
06-23-2007, 00:22
Nah, it will be a saba archer/inf elite unit!

SwebozGaztiz
06-23-2007, 01:04
for me the most usefull have been the indian and elamite archers they are really really good, but the elite getai archers are nice in both ranged and melee attack!

Pharnakes
06-23-2007, 01:37
Indians are the best though, in one mp battle, a tired unit of them halfed a unti of parthian bodygurd catas in aobut 20 seconds.:smash: (in melee).

Redmeth
06-23-2007, 07:20
I lost a Sauro general to them in melee before I could realize they were that good, I was pleased by the fact that I was taken by surprise, now 10 units of indian archers are on their way to raid the Sweboz :yes: .

JeffBag
06-23-2007, 11:58
Slingers






... I'm sorry.

Dumbass
06-23-2007, 19:02
Definetly Indian longbowmen, beautiful unit, cool longbow and scimitar. Very cheap yet devastating. It think that they may have the AP bonus, but I may be wrong.

Pharnakes
06-23-2007, 19:28
They do, and as stated above, they eat grivpanvar for breakfast...