Fantasy Mafia [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 3

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-23-2007, 09:47

After a long hard and painful think, I suspect that either Stig, The Stranger or Andres is a spy.

Stig was acting oddly at the start of the game, but Andres, who at least seems to be innocent, is able to defend him.

However, Andres still isn't yet totally cleared. He could have been targeted by a vigilante and really was a mafioso with Stig as his ally. Due to this convenient attack, he was able to manipulate others into sending in PMs to him so he could remove them if he saw them to be dangerous enough. He may also have used this mass connection to his advantage by using it to claim Stig's innocence and the guilt of others such as The Stranger. However, after re-reading the thread, I begin to doubt this theory - why would a spy use an ice-block as a weapon?

Finally, I must mention The Stranger. He's active, too active, and is suspitious too, as some of you have marked out. He also failed to answer Andres' question regarding teams correctly - Andres wasn't lying, The Stranger confessed as to the existence of this conversation. He also seemed desperate to stay alive at the start, a little to desperate for my liking.

On a final note, I recommend the lynching of The Stranger. He's the only one of the above without a decent excuse for his odd actions.

Stig

07-23-2007, 10:38

Aye, I and Andres could be mafia due to your reasoning, but would Andres be mafia he would have killed me by now I think

Warmaster Horus

07-23-2007, 13:27

Unless you were mafia too...

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-23-2007, 17:10

The Stranger

07-23-2007, 18:17

omanes you are also very active for a dead dude..

Stig

07-23-2007, 18:53

omanes you are also very active for a dead dude..
Especially for one we cannot trust ~D

Csargo

07-23-2007, 19:07

Especially for one we cannot trust ~D

:no:

seireikhaan

07-23-2007, 19:13

You are acting odd too Warmaster - your activity over the recent rounds has been borderline lurker. Do you have a reason for your quietness or are you trying to hide from the masses? When you are mafia, you usually have the habit of keeping yourself out of the fray - often to the point of suffering the WoG (as demonstrated in Kung Fu mafia).

Actually, Warmaster had alerted us(the fellow mafiosi) in that game right at the beginning that he was very busy and wouldn't be active. It was more of a rl thing than desperately trying to avoid suspicion. So my guess is he's probably got something going on in rl that results in him 'lurking'.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-23-2007, 19:14

omanes you are also very active for a dead dude..I'm active because I find this game extremely interesting to play. No other reason really. I have had activity once dead before, in Kung Fu mafia. I was innocent then. Another point I wish to make, is that you have always been very quick to defend. Why are you so desperate to stay alive? Is this role critical to the town's survival or is it critical to the mafia's? I suspect the latter since you still have not answered Andres' question correctly. Answer him correctly, and allow him to confirm, and I may be less willing to chase you around.

I did, a while back, round two I believe, send my Role PM to Andres. I am yet to receive a reply - I'm not too sure why.

Actually, Warmaster had alerted us(the fellow mafiosi) in that game right at the beginning that he was very busy and wouldn't be active. It was more of a rl thing than desperately trying to avoid suspicion. So my guess is he's probably got something going on in rl that results in him 'lurking'.I understand your point, but I am quite sure that last time he showed a lack of activity in the forums he normally frequents too. This time, he is perfectly active in the EH and in the EB sub-forum. He also seems to have the time to remain online for long periods of time. I doubt real life is keeping him on this occasion.

Andres

07-23-2007, 21:26

I did, a while back, round two I believe, send my Role PM to Andres. I am yet to receive a reply - I'm not too sure why.

I believe the role pm you sent to me was genuine. Omanes was pro-town. We lynched a townie, unfortunately.

The Stranger

07-23-2007, 21:32

ive already answered correctly and he has confirmed... otherwise i wouldnt be here now... they all withdrew their votes because i was vouched for...btw how maniest night is this? 3rd 4th?

Csargo

07-23-2007, 21:34

ive already answered correctly and he has confirmed... otherwise i wouldnt be here now... they all withdrew their votes because i was vouched for...btw how maniest night is this? 3rd 4th?

:no:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-23-2007, 21:42

I, like Ichigo, see no evidence of that.

Warmaster Horus

07-23-2007, 21:52

He also seems to have the time to remain online for long periods of time.

Been spying on me?

This game is ... complex. There are several different factors that come into play, including the "evil" group. Consider the attack on Andres. Naturally, it would be the mafiosi who tried. However, consider the last kill. The knight, and only one kill. Means some mafiosi are maybe not there, and that the "evil" group may have attacked Andres. I'd look more at those who were/are absent, if I were you.

As for my long periods of time on the Org, well, I'm working on the computer, and a natural reflex I have is to log in this great place. So, I log in, check the Org, begin my work, and from time to time check it again. The Entrance Hall and the EB forums are places where it is "easy", if I may say so, to be active on. Being helpful doesn't require a detailed check up on what they did before, on their tone, or their activity. In the gameroom, it's different.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-23-2007, 22:05

I confess that I have been spying on you. However, I do it to all players whom are acting different, so it's not relevant.

If I were to follow your advise, and take a look at inactive players whom are not posting, I only see Dutch_guy. I'm not sure about him and I suspect other player of being spies more that I suspect him. He's a player whom I would leave till last when there would be nobody else.

Also, Night III, which I presume is the night you are talking about, would have been the night phase in which I could assassinate a player. I don't think pevergreen would allow three kills for a single night while all others only have one.

Is this a clever attempt to arouse any thought of guilt away from you, or are your intentions honest? I'm not sure. The Stranger is a better lynch target for now. I suggest you guys chase after him.

Stig

07-23-2007, 22:08

DG can be left alone, no need to lynch him, he's on holiday ~D

Warmaster Horus

07-23-2007, 22:21

You guys do realize it's night, right? Omanes, we can't do anything right now.

The Stranger

07-23-2007, 22:27

pever could you please type next tyme in the summary which night it is? its quite confusing now... so now its night 3... but its the 4th night because you started with night 0... am i correct?

pevergreen

07-24-2007, 01:36

It started with Night 0

Starting with a day has proven to be stupid, and i dont want to have Night 1, then Day 1. Gets confusing for me.

Night 0, Day 1, Night 1, Day 2, Night 2, Day 3, Night 3, etc

TevashSzat

07-24-2007, 01:39

I think the ominous event that happened earlier is much more significant than Prole's death. Prole didnt really even post here and would probably end up Woged meaning that it wasnt a very good kill, that ominous thing on the other hard may mean something.

All roles have a minor and major victory. That i think was their minor victory whatever it was

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 07:29

You guys do realize it's night, right? Omanes, we can't do anything right now.It's better to prepare for whom will be voted upon in the game during the night. It give more time for people to work out theories and place them into practice.

Could twilightblade select the duelling of Warmaster Horus and The Stranger, if he manages to live, please. I will be interested to see their weaponry - especially The Stranger's selection. If anybody killed with any of their items, you shall know whom to go after the following Day phase.

pevergreen

07-24-2007, 07:38

Night 3 Concluded.

Robin was in the fields, watching an arrow fly overhead. A whistling sound accompanied the arrow's flight. Robin frowned, that wasnt usual, but then again, it was going very fast. Robin had no idea that, as the noise stopped, he had been struck by a poisoned dart. He died as the black robed man stepped over him.

Lancelot was in the barn, revisiting the place of Heckor's death. The lance used was still in the wall. Lancelot pulled it out, and smiled. As he turned around, a shadow entered the barn. "Who goes there" Lancelot yelled, rising the lance to the proper height.
"Foolish Mortal, thou canst not hope to defeat me!"
Lancelot burst into a cloud of blood, bones and nothingness.

Alive:
Ichigo
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
The Stranger
Stig
Motep
Dutch Guy
Andres
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)
Motep (Steve, Day 2)
Beefy (Maxim, Day 3)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)
Prole (Heckor, Night 2)
Sasaki (Lancelot, Night 3)
Sarathos (Robin, Night 3)

Attacked:
Andres (Night 0)

It is now Day 4.

seireikhaan

07-24-2007, 07:43

Ok, so was Sasaki killed by something that's immortal? Also, I think that the guy was being a total sissy, that's a really cowardly way to kill someone, making them go poof and all...

pevergreen

07-24-2007, 07:45

No one is immortal.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 07:48

Presumably Sasaki was the Knight - Lancealot is not a name that would be granted to a normal towniee. The mafia seem to be doing quite well - I presume that the Knight role was quite important.

I also think that we can safely say that the dart-thrower is a mafioso.

I would prefer it if The Stranger was to be killed off this round, although, if you want to be sure you are killing off a mafioso, duel him against any random player. Preferably another suspect. If that occurs, you will see his weapon type so that you can compare it with the items used in the kills.

Twilightblade

07-24-2007, 08:12

It seems that sarathos was an archer as there was an arrow in his death write-up. Robin & Lancelot are both names of important people in stories(aka heros), is this a hint into which team they were on?

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 08:48

I suspect that there is a hero group, possibly on the town's side or possibly an independent team, somewhere along the line if that is the case. Perhaps Xdeathfire's PMing was related to this group?

Stig

07-24-2007, 08:53

Vote: GH, we have to start somewhere and I have heard little of you

And let me say it's interesting that Sasaki and Sarathos died at the same night. Andres told me they vouched for eachother.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 09:22

Hmm, yes, GH is a little quiet, although he was in Kung Fu mafia, but life was consuming him. In this game, we just seem to have our core of active players and a large number of players who are just staying out of the fray. You cannot help but wonder why they are not talking while they are still active on other areas of the .Org.

However, I suggest we go after them when there are no visible leads, closer to the end. I would prefer to go after the players who are a little overly active and dangerous - they are the ones whom are most likely to be a threat to us.

Stig

07-24-2007, 09:31

However, I suggest we go after them when there are no visible leads, closer to the end. I would prefer to go after the players who are a little overly active and dangerous - they are the ones whom are most likely to be a threat to us.
Au contraire
People who are active talk now, and talk at the end, they should be left over. Lynching the active people early on only helps the mafia, as most of those will leave the game.

Lynching less actives now will still help us, if in the finale you are left with lurkers you get nowhere. If you have actives they will talk, and thus make mistakes.

Killfr3nzy

07-24-2007, 12:18

It seems there's a bit of a move to have TS off'd, apparently from him fking up another game. Also, GH is vaguely suspiscious with his absence I think, so I'm going to vote for them to duel. This should either provide the final nail in TS's coffin, or potentialy clear his name. It might also start a case against GH if he seems scummy. Who's with me?
Duel: The Stranger vs General Hankerchief.
And now, I just sit back and hope I spelt that correctly....

Oh and
Vote Count;
GH - 1 (Stig)

TevashSzat

07-24-2007, 14:45

This is quite suspicious now. Me, Sasaki, Sarathos, and greaterkhaan were all neutral heroes. Greater died before we linked up, but of us 3 only two people that I know off know who we are. Andres who we told and TS who somehow knows. I think that they are trying to kill us off just in case we can do something to stop them.

Personally, I think either Andres or TS is scummy. Andres was attacked 1st round but it wasnt necessarily mafia. The day that Prole died had no mafia attacks. A viligante role killed her So that day the viligantes killed no one either meaning we are wiping them out or that ominous post pever made was really important to their role.

This all being said, FOS: Andres and TS

Andres

07-24-2007, 14:48

I only told Stig that you, Sarathos, GK and Sasaki have vouched for each other.

Who told TS?

TevashSzat

07-24-2007, 14:53

TS knew that Sarathos had a neutral role from the beginning even before I tried link up with everyone. Chances are the Sarathos gave him his role. However, TS just sent me a PM where he knew Sasaki was also in my group. How he got that I dont know. Might be from another role, but its kinda convenient that of the 4 of us, 3 of us have died in the first 3 nights

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:01

you stupid... i was trying to help you... ask sarathos... i knew sarathos was a hero because he asked me the same question as you did and he told me he was a hero... so i knew you were... i didnt knew sasaki was a hero... i asked you... and i did that because someone on this page said they might both be heros... i knew sarathos was... so sasaki might have been one too... let me duel someone and youll see that im not a spy... and that i donot posses darts or a lance..

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:08

i was never told this is were i got the info from... and Xdeath didnt i told you to link up with sarathos... omg... you guys are weird...

[QUOTE]It seems that sarathos was an archer as there was an arrow in his death write-up. Robin & Lancelot are both names of important people in stories(aka heros), is this a hint into which team they were on?[/
QUOTE]

stig also said they vouched for each other, knowing sarathos was hero... presumably sasaki was one too... im not dumb although manyt may think so... i can link things you know..

btw you do realize its the same vigilante that killed prole that killed sasaki... it was no mafia kill

Warmaster Horus

07-24-2007, 15:09

Wasn't Prole killed by a lance, and Sasaki killed by Magic?

Hmm, magic... Who uses that?

Stig

07-24-2007, 15:11

My guess is that one of them was a vigilante kill

Andres

07-24-2007, 15:13

Wasn't Prole killed by a lance, and Sasaki killed by Magic?

Hmm, magic... Who uses that?

I use magic.

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:14

My guess is that one of them was a vigilante kill

oh if thats the case then the lance was from sasaki... which means sasaki killed prole... hmm... so your teaM was in dirty activity... explain that xdeath...

Stig

07-24-2007, 15:21

The lance was not Sasaki's, he fought using bare-hands.
I got a lance, but I can't kill ... well in Duels maybe

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:23

then why would he go back and pull the lance out... being a knight and then fight barehanded is odd... though a lance isnt a real duel weapon... so maybe in duels he fights barehanded

Andres

07-24-2007, 15:27

oh if thats the case then the lance was from sasaki... which means sasaki killed prole... hmm... so your teaM was in dirty activity... explain that xdeath...

Yeah, but his "team" consists of 4 players, all of them vouched for each other.

There are only 3 spies...

Now, TS, you knew about the heroes as did Stig and I. I know for sure both Stig and I are innocent.

You explain to us.

Who else did you share your information with? And why did you share your information?

Remember, this game is not about staying alive, it is about gaining victory for your team. Sometimes it is necessary and better to get lynched than to give away too much information in order to save your own life.

You are a neutral solo character, at least that is what you claimed to be.

Who's side are you on? Town or mafia? If you decide your personal interest is more important than that of our town, we might as well kill you. It is not in our interest that you go around sharing vital information with everybody, at the risk of sharing it with the mafia, to save your live.

Besides, I am still waiting for those investigation results you promised me.

EDIT: The Stranger, you have 1 hour to give a satisfying explanation.

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:36

sarathos told me... he was a hero... i knew xdeath was because they asked me the same question... i never said they were mafia... im on the town side...

well i will give the results but you never answer my pms so i dont know what you want...

Andres

07-24-2007, 15:39

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:43

describe satisfying... i answered all you asked and i will pm you 1 result now... the other ill recieve next night... if i get it at all cuz sarathos is dead so i dont know wether it succeeded or not...

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:44

oh and i didnt share my info with anybody but you... though i told some bits to sarathos ichigo and stig...

Andres

07-24-2007, 15:47

oh and i didnt share my info with anybody but you...

Not even with the lynched Omanes?

Weren't you pm'ing him when you were facing a lynching? A lynched player = not confirmed innocent?

Didn't you put your personal interest above that of your team, the town?

I am not satisfied.

though i told some bits to sarathos ichigo and stig...

This part wasn't there before you edited your post. Why at first telling you didn't share but with me and afterwards editing you shared with Stig and Ichigo?

Warmaster Horus

07-24-2007, 15:49

Being a lawyer helps prepare for this game, I see...

We're not in a courtroom, Andres.

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 15:55

i sent omanes 1 pmthat pm was posted in thread... and was sent before thel lynch and you being attacked... so... your point...

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 16:05

We're not in a courtroom, Andres.It's working though, isn't it? More to the point though, why are you so against the rigorous interrogation of TS? Are you afraid of what he may let slip?

Like Andres said, TS's defence is not satisfying. He will need to think of something clever to save yourself from this. Andres is very stubborn.

Andres

07-24-2007, 16:06

The Stranger, how did you know you could trust Ichigo?

You gave him vital information, didn't you? Why did you do that? And why Ichigo?

Warmaster Horus

07-24-2007, 16:08

Omanes, I just found the situation "funny". As for the courtroom comment, I was just saying that this is a game.

Stig

07-24-2007, 16:11

Andres happens to be a lawyer

Unvote, Vote: TS btw

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 16:11

i didnt... but he thought i wasnt guilty... so i though he could help me... but i dont see what you are trying to prove... early in the game you must take risks.. i always randomly contact people early in a game... thats how i found out pever was a don and gg a detective in CDTC

Andres

07-24-2007, 16:11

I was just saying that this is a game.

I know. All of this is in-game. I'm just playing my role... No offense meant (and none taken I hope).

Now, let's continue.

Answer me TS :whip:

Or face the consequences :skull:

Warmaster Horus

07-24-2007, 16:15

None at all.

How much time left?

shlin28

07-24-2007, 16:15

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 16:18

answer what... list the question like this 1. 2.

Andres

07-24-2007, 16:31

but i dont see what you are trying to prove...

That you have told alot of lies right now.

First you said:

oh and i didnt share my info with anybody but you...

Afterwards you edit your post and you say:

oh and i didnt share my info with anybody but you... though i told some bits to sarathos ichigo and stig...

After pushing you, you admit you contacted Omanes as well.

Andres

07-24-2007, 16:33

About the heroes, what do they actually do? They are neutral, so they could help either side, but Andres said early on that we should get rid of the neutrals, as they dont help the town and they could aid the mafia.

I did :inquisitive: ?

Didn't I say something like "get rid of the neutrals who don't want to be on our side or the neutrals who place their own interest above that of the town?"

shlin28

07-24-2007, 16:38

Bah, I got the basic gist of it anyway...
The point is, we need to find neutrals who are willing to work with the town, and alienate those who won't.

Andres

07-24-2007, 16:39

How much time left?

Time is up.

OH, ALLMIGHTY PEVERGREEN! I CALL UPON THEE! DESTROY THE STRANGER !

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 16:39

i didnt contact omanes to tell him something... get your facts right...

I pmd omanes in the first night when everyone wanted to lynch me for schrewing up KFM... after that i didnt pm him...

i didnt lie about giving info to anyone but you... because i hadnt gave it to anyone untill i just sent you the pm... what i told ichigo and stig and sarathos were pieces of my role... of what i could do... i knew sarathos was innocent when i gave it... i didnt knew it of stig and ichigo because it was early ingame and i had to take risks...

please, be fair and honest and dont twist the facts...

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 16:41

what do you think man... its not my entire life im playing a game next to you blablaing... i dont have all the time of the world for you... and as again your case is weak... your questions ambigious and your judgement flawed... for a lawyer thats pretty weak... so start the bandwagon on me again... sigh...

Andres

07-24-2007, 16:44

There's no need for a bandwagon on you. Once my mighty master appears, you will be dealt with.

Up to the next suspect:

Unvote ; Vote : shlin28

Warmaster Horus

07-24-2007, 16:45

Once your "mighty master appears"?

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 16:49

If pevergreens a wizard, would I be correct in saying that Andres is his assistant or lower? Perhaps one of his abilities is to ask pevergreen to kill a player by posting it in thread? Is this theory correct Andres?

shlin28

07-24-2007, 16:50

There's no need for a bandwagon on you. Once my mighty master appears, you will be dealt with.

Up to the next suspect:

Unvote ; Vote : shlin28

Not even gonna give a chance for a proper investigation to take place? Let the detective or whatever it is in this game to investigate me tonight and discover my role, then try and vote for me. You will see that I am innocent.

Or if someone would duel me to find out my alliegiance, it would be fine.

Andres

07-24-2007, 16:51

If pevergreens a wizard, would I be correct in saying that Andres is his assistant or lower? Perhaps on of his abilities is to ask pevergreen to destroy a player by posting it in thread?

:yes:

Ability only to be used once.

And used well, I hope. If not, well, we all make mistakes, don't we?

Stig

07-24-2007, 16:51

though i told some bits to sarathos ichigo and stig.
You did? Where? When? To me?

And TS is going to die anyway? ok
Unvote, Vote: Shlin, I believe I did that same last round

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 16:57

pever isnt playing is he?

stig in the vey beginning i told you my figthingscore my weapons and on which nights i could use my ability... i gave my entire role to ichigo... and i cant remember what i told sarathos... but it wasnt something very important...

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 16:58

i think its the event... so andres killed me... hmm.. neat... just wait what ill do to you in MoM :P

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 17:12

pever isnt playing is he?pevergreen is the host of this game. He takes the non-player role of a "wizard" - basically a person who features in write ups, but doesn't actually participate.

i think its the event... so andres killed me... hmm.. neat... just wait what ill do to you in MoM :PIs that a sign of guilt within that game?

Warmaster Horus

07-24-2007, 17:19

Or maybe he's a vigilante?

Anyway, this is distracting us from this day. We're lynching Shlin, from what I understand. Why? And TS is gonna die because of Andres?

The Stranger

07-24-2007, 17:20

you are seeing ghosts my friend... seriously... im not even going to answer questions like those coming from you... sigh... now im going to cook... cya

Stig

07-24-2007, 17:21

Shlin, because he's acting as if he's quilty

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 17:30

Isn't it odd how you turn up, Warmaster Horus, and increase your activity after I point it out that you are reasonably quiet. You also seem to be acting very defensive of players for no apparent reason - as if you are seeing it from a much more neutral point of view than a normal innocent would. I'm not too sure, but isn't that a classical mafia tactic?

shlin28

07-24-2007, 17:55

Vote: GH

Too inactive and acts scummy.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 18:02

I don't disagree shlin, GH is as suspitious as several others, but really you should post as to why he is scummy. It's more likely to result in your lynch than it is the person's whom you are voting for without strong reasons backed-up by hard evidence.

shlin28

07-24-2007, 18:12

Here, is my reasons for voting for GH

So what exactly is the case against TS?

Behaving exactly like I did in Stig's mafia, trying to pretend to be a simple townie, asking a seemingly simple question, when the answer had been discussed for a page and half already.

think TS is innocent because I can't seem to find a case against him.I

Same as above.

After these 2 replies he goes inactive for a long time...
The next thing he said was...

Ah but Motep always does this.
The point of this phrase? Surely other mafia veterans would know this by now.

So did everybody, apparently. Hardly a reason for a vote.
Still trying to pretending to be a harmless townie, but without contributing anything importan.

His next post is about what is exactly a "rake"...

There could be more, but when i come back after an hour or too, I may write some more.

Sasaki Kojiro

07-24-2007, 18:40

yeah, I'll vote:GH too

Sasaki Kojiro

07-24-2007, 18:41

...or I would if I wasn't dead

Andres

07-24-2007, 20:24

...or I would if I wasn't dead

What are your thoughts on shlin and CA ?

Sasaki Kojiro

07-24-2007, 20:55

no thoughts

GeneralHankerchief

07-24-2007, 21:23

Give me one more round of semi-silence and I'll start contributing. Life (work, writing for RL, writing for KotR, me finishing a long book) is going to ease up very shortly.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-24-2007, 21:53

It's not just the lack of contribution that make you appear guilty. It also just the fact that you seem to lack the ability to see guilt in players. This makes you appear neutral - a tactic often used by .Org mafiosos.

GeneralHankerchief

07-24-2007, 21:58

Mmm, I disagree. Every game is unique and thus the mafiosi and the events that they react to are also unique. Considering the amount of time I've put into this game (quite little) neutral's really the only way I've been able to act. I can see innocence a lot easier than comb through threads to find guilt.

CountArach

07-25-2007, 06:00

What are your thoughts on shlin and CA ?
Could someone point me to where a question was asked of me? I will answer it.

Tran

07-25-2007, 06:08

If someone can count the votes tally, I'll appreciate it :bow:

Twilightblade

07-25-2007, 07:32

Tally
Shlin28 2- (Andres, stig)
GH 1-(shlin)

This is by my count so if anyone wants to make sure count yourselves

pevergreen

07-25-2007, 07:38

pevergreen awakes from his slumber, hearing his apprentice call his name. He is filled with an unnatural want to see dead bodies. Out in the field, he sees Clem and Siegfried. Remembering his dreams, he gathers his might, sending a bolt of lightning, chained, towards Clem and Siegfried. Both are turned into a crisp.

Alive:
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Stig
Motep
Dutch Guy
Andres
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)
Motep (Steve, Day 2)
Beefy (Maxim, Day 3)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)
Prole (Heckor, Night 2)
Sasaki (Lancelot, Night 3)
Sarathos (Robin, Night 3)
The Stranger (Siegfried, Day 4)

Attacked:
Andres (Night 0)

Suicided/Host killed (Wogged)
Ichigo (Clem, Day 4)

Around four hours left in this Day.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 07:58

I recommend the duelling of Warmaster Horus and GeneralHankerchief. Their activity excuses don't seem to be of high quality and neither do their other defences. Both of them are, from evidence demonstrated in other forums, young individuals. I thought that the majority of children under-sixteen were off school with plenty of free time to dedicate to whatever cause they wish?

Twilightblade

07-25-2007, 08:59

Hey Pever what happened to the chain lightning that you were saying that you would use if there was a multikill/WoG

Andres

07-25-2007, 09:12

Vote duel: GeneralHankerchief vs. Warmaster Horus
Vote : to the death

pevergreen

07-25-2007, 11:42

Remembering his dreams, he gathers his might, sending a bolt of lightning, chained, towards Clem and Siegfried. Both are turned into a crisp.

Shlin28 lynched, waiting method from Lord Twilightblade.

Alive:
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Stig
Dutch Guy
Andres
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)
Motep (Steve, Day 2)
Beefy (Maxim, Day 3)
Shlin28 (Kate, Day 4)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)
Prole (Heckor, Night 2)
Sasaki (Lancelot, Night 3)
Sarathos (Robin, Night 3)
The Stranger (Siegfried, Day 4)

Attacked:
Andres (Night 0)

Suicided/Host killed (Wogged)
Ichigo (Clem, Day 4)

IT IS NOW NIGHT 4.

GeneralH vs WarmasterH

Lycan (GH) faces off against Remin (WH) both seem to have no weapon. As the duel commences they spring backwards, making the gap between them larger. Remin pulls out a row of darts, throwing them towards Lycan. Lycan makes a gesture, all the darts fall to the ground. Remin looks on in horror as Lycan makes another gesture and a small pebble floats unstably towards Remin. It stops just before his eye. Remin understands and locks himself in his room for the night.

shlin28

07-25-2007, 12:00

:furious3:Warmaster Horus is a spy!:furious3:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 12:03

Yep, we most certainly found one! If The Stranger was a spy, then I think that we will have the whole lot, unless there are three or more. If that is the case, we just have to get rid of the lone player.

Warmaster Horus

07-25-2007, 12:09

So I'm incapacitated, right?

By the way, I'm a spy because of my weapons?

shlin28

07-25-2007, 12:10

If you haven't noticed, almost all of the night kills were caused by darts... :inquisitive:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 12:27

By the way, I'm a spy because of my weapons?The majority of Night kills were caused by darts. Since all weapons seem to be unique, I fear that they more than likely belong to you. You either are a vigilante who just happens to be able to kill nightly, something which I sincerely doubt - I had a vigilante type role and could only kill on every third night, or you are a spy, which is a theory I can almost guarentee is true. The evidence is strongly in favour of your guilt. I doubt that there is anything that can save you from death now.

Warmaster Horus

07-25-2007, 12:32

There are +20 participants?

What are the odds, then, that some players have the same weapons?

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 12:34

What are the odds, then, that some players have the same weapons?Nobody, as of yet, has been seen to have the same weapons. If we were force everybody to duel, then I honestly do not think that your theory would be fully proven.

Andres

07-25-2007, 13:17

Correct me if I am mistaken, but I think I'm the only one who voted for the consequences of losing the duel and I voted 'to the death'...

Shouldn't WH be dead instead of incapacitated?

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 13:19

Shouldn't WH be dead instead of incapacitated?I thought that the voting for that was for the whole of the game earlier on. I'm not too sure though, so you'll have to wait for pevergreen to confirm, sorry.

BTW, pevergreen, may I ask what the conditions of Castle Fear's victory are - do we have to destroy all opposing teams, including the lone players, or do we just have to kill the spies?

The Stranger

07-25-2007, 14:14

im not a spy you stupid idiots... im the detective... the inquisitor... warmaster is prolly a spy so there are still 2 left... if you havent got one already.. am i not right OMANES... :inquisitive:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 15:47

It depends upon which piece you are asking me about as to whether I consider you correct or not. Anyhow, you're dead, it's too late to begin protesting your innocence.

BTW, can we have the results you collected if you happen to be the detective.

GeneralHankerchief

07-25-2007, 18:22

Omanes, I am 17 but I have work in the summer.

Csargo

07-25-2007, 19:30

im not a spy you stupid idiots... im the detective... the inquisitor... warmaster is prolly a spy so there are still 2 left... if you havent got one already.. am i not right OMANES... :inquisitive:

I don't like playing games with you.

seireikhaan

07-25-2007, 19:45

Ok, a couple of things here: first of all, am I the only one to find it a tad suspicious that GH's character is named 'lycan'? I'm assuming you all know what a lycan is...

Also, having darts doesn't automatically mean he's a spy. It does make him a candidate to be one, but darts doesn't necessarily= spy. I was a hero, and my weapon was knives/darts as well.

Csargo

07-25-2007, 19:47

The Stranger

07-25-2007, 19:48

hmm... i slipped... and i apologize... i have a problem controlling my temper... get warned for it quite often... dont really mean it...

seireikhaan

07-25-2007, 19:50

And what were you?

I was a hero who was dubbed 'the silent assassin' in the role PM.

The Stranger

07-25-2007, 19:54

what is a "lycan"?

shlin28

07-25-2007, 19:58

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycan

They are werewolves basically.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 20:07

Another key question is what team are the heroes on. Are they on ours, are they on their own or are the neutral with the ability to align to whomever they wish. If the correct theory is either of the latter, then we may wish to focus on them after the more reliable leads have been exploited.

As for GH, perhaps he's an independent player. I doubt ether spies or heroes would have one of those on their team.

As for Warmaster Horus, I doubt that pevergreen would give darts to three players. This means that it was either greaterkhaan or him whom killed on those nights. The most likely candidate for the attacks is, in my opinion Warmaster Horus. He's the only one of you two whom has been acting reasonably dodgy. Even if there was more evidence biased in his favour, I would still suggest that the town target him the next round. The risk is worth it.

seireikhaan

07-25-2007, 20:07

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycan

They are werewolves basically.

Exactly. Not the sort of creature we probably want running around our castle.(at least imo) I suggest we get rid of GH first, then Warmaster, as we don't quite have any true evidence against WM. GH, on the other hand, well, he's a lycan! That can't be a friendly role.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 20:13

greaterkhaan, may I ask if you have killed anybody during this game? The answer to this question will either prove or dis-prove Warmaster Horus' guilt - I doubt that any more than two players will have darts. So far everybody's weapon has been different.

seireikhaan

07-25-2007, 20:22

Stig

07-25-2007, 20:29

Actually not everyone's weapon is different. I know more people who have a lance. And I bet swords are pretty common as well.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-25-2007, 20:30

There is a high chance that he is guilty then greaterkhaan. The only way that I could possibly be convinced otherwise would be if another player were to come forward and confess their ownership of darts. I doubt that this will happen since pevergreen probably would not have given the same weapon out to more than two people - duels have demonstrated that the majority of weapons were unique.

seireikhaan

07-25-2007, 20:32

I repeat: I AM ALREADY DEAD! I WAS KILLED BY SOMEONE WHO USES DARTS. SO EVEN IF I HAD BEEN A SPY, IT WOULDN'T MATTER SINCE I'M DEAD.

TevashSzat

07-25-2007, 21:22

I thought this was pretty clear before, but Greaterkhaan is a neutral herop part of my party so he cannot be mafia. I think I sense a lynched mafia determined to help out his fellow members as much as he can....

pevergreen

07-25-2007, 23:31

Lycan... :laugh4: There are no shape-shifting roles in this.

As i said, names give no hint towards roles. In some cases, names are given to certain people to make it appear pro-town or mafia.

:bow: Have fun

(The duels incapitate)

pevergreen once again awoke from his sleep, beginning to feel once more the unnatural fury of bloodlust. He was hunting Remin. He sighted Remin, loosing a meteor from the heavens. Remin was no more.

Alive:
CountArach
Tran
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Stig
Dutch Guy
Andres
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)
Motep (Steve, Day 2)
Beefy (Maxim, Day 3)
Shlin28 (Kate, Day 4)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)
Prole (Heckor, Night 2)
Sasaki (Lancelot, Night 3)
Sarathos (Robin, Night 3)
The Stranger (Siegfried, Day 4)
Warmaster Horus (Remin, Night 4)

Attacked:
Andres (Night 0)

Suicided/Host killed (Wogged)
Ichigo (Clem, Day 4)

Night 4 for 12 more hours.

pevergreen

07-25-2007, 23:52

A hooded wanderer went to the graveyard. As he got the earth off Remin's grave, he levitated his body, before imploding it.

Andrew was walking down the corridor from the library again. Once more he felt the shadows go past. He knew what was happening. He started raising a fire elemental to fight off the attacker as an arrow thudded into his arm. The unseen archer screamed with glee, but that was cut short as a shrieking sound filled the air.
"Foolish Mortals, all that can oppose me has fallen! THOU ART DOOMED!"
Andrew imploded, just as has happended the night before.

Alive:
CountArach
Tran
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Stig
Dutch Guy
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)
Motep (Steve, Day 2)
Beefy (Maxim, Day 3)
Shlin28 (Kate, Day 4)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)
Prole (Heckor, Night 2)
Sasaki (Lancelot, Night 3)
Sarathos (Robin, Night 3)
The Stranger (Siegfried, Day 4)
Warmaster Horus (Remin, Night 4) [DOUBLE KILLED]
Andres (Andrew, Night 4) [DOUBLE KILLED]

Attacked:
Andres (Andrew, Night 0)

Suicided/Host killed (Wogged)
Ichigo (Clem, Day 4)

It is now Day 5.

WOG will happen this round.

seireikhaan

07-26-2007, 00:02

WHAT?! How can someone be 'double killed'? That doesn't seem too logical to me.

Killfr3nzy

07-26-2007, 00:07

Well that was kinda 'lol'.

Csargo

07-26-2007, 00:15

Well that was kinda 'lol'.

:inquisitive:

TevashSzat

07-26-2007, 00:45

I think he meant that 2 guys went for the same person

Csargo

07-26-2007, 01:01

Nevermind

pevergreen

07-26-2007, 01:20

I think he meant that 2 guys went for the same person
Correct. In both cases.

Killfr3nzy

07-26-2007, 02:14

Someone dug up a guy and imploded him.
I think that merits a 'lol'.

Caius

07-26-2007, 02:17

Vote:Abstain

TevashSzat

07-26-2007, 02:18

Nevermind

Did anyone get what Ichigo posted?

Caius

07-26-2007, 02:19

Did anyone get what Ichigo posted?
Why do you want to know?

GeneralHankerchief

07-26-2007, 02:20

Why do you want to know?

Why are you withholding it in the first place? It was a simple question.

Vote: Caius

Caius

07-26-2007, 02:23

Why are you withholding it in the first place? It was a simple question.

Vote: Caius
I know it, GH.

Just wondering.

Killfr3nzy

07-26-2007, 02:26

Uh, Cauis isn't withholding it, because it was Ichi's post?
FoS: GH.

GeneralHankerchief

07-26-2007, 02:27

If he knew what was said there should be no reason why he was hiding it.

Killfr3nzy

07-26-2007, 02:28

Fair 'nough.
Uh, un-FoS? ;p

Csargo

07-26-2007, 02:49

Did anyone get what Ichigo posted?

It had something to do with WoG...

TevashSzat

07-26-2007, 03:46

It seems that Tran and Dutch guy will be Wogged and maybe CA too. Search time delay is really irritating me here. So that effectively leaves the lunchables as:

Alive:
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Stig
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief
CountArach(maybe)

Caius is lurking too much for my tastes so I will

Vote: Caius

Csargo

07-26-2007, 03:46

Oh btw I know who the spies are. Who the great evil is. And everyone inbetween if you don't believe me I'll gladly show you proof.

pevergreen

07-26-2007, 07:17

Oh really?
-^

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 07:27

I dislike Caius' inactivity. He has been quiet in his other game though, so it must be universal silence rather than just a Fantasy Mafia one.

All of a sudden though, two people have turned up, presumably because of the threat of the WoG - Killfr3nzy and Xdeathfire. Xdeathfire is vouched for as a hero, a member of a neutral party. On the other hand though Kilfr3nzy isn't. He's been quieter than usual all the way through this game - normally he moderately active. He has been lurking in the thread and constantly observing it though. A more than definite lurker. Do you have an acceptable excuse for this Killfr3nzy.

Also, in the previous kills, in which levitation occurred, isn't that GH's trademark? Didn't he cause the stone to hover near Warmaster Horus' face in their duel? His name further arouses questions about his innocence. Perhaps he is the one we should lynch this round.

Csargo

07-26-2007, 07:43

Oh really?
-^

Hmm. Maybe I won't show proof, but I do know.~;)

Twilightblade

07-26-2007, 08:24

I personally believe that killfr3nzy is not a spy and that he's just too lazy to post often

Andres

07-26-2007, 08:31

I'd vote GeneralHankerchief if I was still alive.

Stig

07-26-2007, 09:29

Alive:
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade (being boss)
Xdeathfire (being hero)
Stig (being me)
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief
CountArach(maybe)

Easy as that, say we still have 2 of the bastards.

I'd say Caius and GH

Vote: GH

Killfr3nzy

07-26-2007, 10:03

Lol I like Stig's list.
As to my level of activeness, this is my first game in a while so I'm a little more awkward with it than I may have been in others. Also, how much I post really depends on if I'm under threat, someone dies in an amusing way, I see something I think is worthy of a comment while ignoring the teacher in Computer Studies, and if I'm doing anything else.
Recently I've been playing some WoW (it's not my fault), and I read Harry Potter 7.
As there's not that many of us left I've become a little more active though, in an attempt to win/not be wogged. :)

Moving on to voting. I hadn't actualy noticed that GH also used levitation. >.< But that would seem fairly suspiscious, and he seemed kinda eager to cast our eyes towards Caius, who from what I see/remember has died a few times from less-than perfect english skills. Although, fair to say, this is the internet.
In some above post's there are reasons to lynch GH, one of which is that if he is evil and can kill two people per night phase he must die NOW.
Therefore, my vote goes for him.
Vote: GH

Vote Count:
GH - 2 (Stig, Killfr3nzy)
Caius - 2 (Xdeath, GH)
Abstain - 1 (Caius)

Two-way tie atm.

CountArach

07-26-2007, 10:56

Vote: Caius

Abstaining does not help at all...

Killfr3nzy

07-26-2007, 11:14

Any reason for voting him over GH? Caius, I suggest you switch your vote.

Vote Count:
GH - 2 (Stig, Killfr3nzy)
Caius - 3 (Xdeath, GH, CA)
Abstain - 1 (Caius)

TevashSzat

07-26-2007, 12:03

I will break the tie then

Unvote, Vote: GH

Vote Count:
GH - 2 (Stig, Killfr3nzy, Xdeath)
Caius - 2 (GH, CA)
Abstain - 1 (Caius)

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 12:11

Possibly a little too obvious, but is there some form of unity between GH and CountArach? It seems peculiar that they are the only two willing to target Caius.

Killfr3nzy

07-26-2007, 12:37

I hope that GH goes down today. And that he's the evil one. :)
Otherwise.......
The vote from CA was kinda random I agree, with only the fact that abstaining is fairly useless this late putting the guilts on Caius imo, but meybe he's just tired/cbf typing his reasons.

Vote Count:
GH - 3 (Stig, Killfr3nzy, Xdeath)
Caius - 2 (GH, CA)
Abstain - 1 (Caius)

RoadKill

07-26-2007, 14:55

Hey everyone, i'm in japan right now on vacation so i've been lurking a lot, just went in a cafe to post something, but i just read like 8 pages so Vote: GH just cuz he sounds suspicious.

Caius

07-26-2007, 17:13

Vote: Caius

Abstaining does not help at all...
Thats not a reason, same goes for GH

Vote:CountArach
Tell us your thoughouts in the game.

EDIT:Added RoadKill vote and Vote Count Added
Vote Count:
GH - 4 (Stig, Killfr3nzy, Xdeath, RoadKill)
Caius - 2 (GH, CA)
CA- 1 (Caius)

Stig

07-26-2007, 18:12

Why CA instead of GH? defending something?

GeneralHankerchief

07-26-2007, 18:42

Alright look Omanes, you've been annoying me this entire game. So, let me plainly state my defenses.

I HAVE NOT CONSCIOUSLY CHOSEN TO BE INACTIVE FOR THIS GAME.

AS PEVER HAS REPEATEDLY MENTIONED, NAMES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ROLE DESCRIPTION.

I have no idea why pever named me "Lycan." Personally I don't think it matters. I do have magic powers but I hereby swear in front of all of you that I possess no night-killing ability.

Csargo

07-26-2007, 19:14

:rolleyes: :angel:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 19:18

AS PEVER HAS REPEATEDLY MENTIONED, NAMES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ROLE DESCRIPTION.I have to disagree. The heroes have had "heroic" names - for example one was named Robin and another Lancelot. Why shouldn't a bad guy have an evil name?

I doubt you are in cooperation with the spies, but I would bet quite alot of hard earned cash that you are the lone player. Some sort of werewolf most likely.

shlin28

07-26-2007, 19:22

I wasn't evil as such, but I got a pretty normal (female) character name... Kate... :no:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 19:23

What role did you earn shilin?

GeneralHankerchief

07-26-2007, 19:25

I have to disagree. The heroes have had "heroic" names - for example one was named Robin and another Lancelot. Why shouldn't a bad guy have an evil name?

Stop acting on hunches and start following the facts.

If the host says it, then it is obviously true. Take your vendetta somewhere else.

shlin28

07-26-2007, 19:27

My role?

A witch who pretends to be evil... but actually can't do anything apart from scaring the hell out of people.

If I wasn't lynched, my special ability would have prevented anyone from doing anything during the night. (The Fake Rising of the Ancient Evil that Pever hinted at)

Csargo

07-26-2007, 19:29

WoG...evil...murderer...

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 19:31

The more you post GH, the more I slowly suspect you. Would a normal innocent player be as disparately defensive as you are been. I most sincerely doubt it. The Stranger, a strongly suspected spy, was lynched, among other reasons, because he acted like you are doing now.

shlin, can we see your role PM. It may contain some information about the ancient evil and/or what/who it is. It may help us in locating it.

shlin28

07-26-2007, 19:37

The dirty, filthy Witch you are. You sell fake magicks. You have heard the peddler, and now you are scheming to pretend to become the Ancient Evil. Will your plot succeed? Who knows…

Role In-Depth:
Name: Kate
Team: Solo Character
Weapon Type: Magic
Fight Skill: 4
Minor Victory: Kill a Hero
Major Victory: All Heroes die
Special Role Specifics: In a duel against a hero, your fight will increase. Once in the game, before the game special event, you may hold a fake uprising of an Ancient Evil. You will scare people, but not kill anyone.

Thats why I suggested lynching heroes couple pages back, had the exact opposite of what was supposed happen to me instead... :wall:

I dont think the Ancient Evil actually exist personally.
And how was I lynched??? Did I just puff into a cloud of smoke? HOW DID I DIE! :furious3:

Csargo

07-26-2007, 19:40

Ancient...Evil....exists...

Stig

07-26-2007, 19:42

Unvote: GH
Vote: Caius

tied

shlin28

07-26-2007, 19:42

Ancient...Evil....exists...

Er... does it?

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 19:44

Ancient...Evil....exists...Ichigo, may I ask what is happening here. What did you find out, how did you find it? Was it through a detective, or did you locate the information regarding roles through less legal means?

Also, shlin, do you know anything else about this peddler? Will the town have to kill him to win?

Csargo

07-26-2007, 19:48

Ichigo, may I ask what is happening here. What did you find out, how did you find it? Was it through a detective, or did you locate the information regarding roles through less legal means?

:shifty: I'm just doing what pever told me, not in so many words though. Am I lieing? Am I not? You'll never know.:grin:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 19:50

:shifty: I'm just doing what pever told me.:grin:May I request your elaboration. It's not really relevant, I'm just curious as to what reason pevergreen had to give you all this sensitive information.

seireikhaan

07-26-2007, 19:52

Vote: Ichigo

He's being deliberately unhelpful. Dig up his bloated corpse and lynch it again. Hey, if we can have double kills, why not double lynches?

PS- I am fully aware that I am dead. Do not take this post seriously.

Csargo

07-26-2007, 19:53

May I request your elaboration. It's not really relevant, I'm just curious as to what reason pevergreen had to give you all this sensitive information.

Well he didn't give in to me. You see I stole such secretive information from him. If you can believe such a story....be my guest. I'm sure you'll find out in the end game.

Csargo

07-26-2007, 19:54

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-26-2007, 19:54

You stole it from him? Is that why pevergreen selected to WoG you?

shlin28

07-26-2007, 19:57

Ghost lynch tally:

Ichigo: 1 (GreaterKhaan)
GreaterKhaan: 1 (Ichigo)

Who will be lynched and sent to the beyond??? Ghosts of the Castle of Fear, come out of your graves and vote!

Csargo

07-26-2007, 20:05

You stole it from him? Is that why pevergreen selected to WoG you?

I wasn't WoGed. The ancient evil exists, there is a spy or two left, I know every role in this game, I have left hints in my posts to locate such people, I have also left hints for the evil ones also.

The Stranger

07-27-2007, 00:03

shlin was the heretical witch, i was the inquisitor... my job was to investigate this witch succesfully... youve been hunting the wrong people for the entire time...

Twilightblade

07-27-2007, 00:54

I think I shallvote: GH

srry but you have been really inactive all game

TevashSzat

07-27-2007, 03:20

Bah!

:bandwagon: :bandwagon: :bandwagon:

I knew you were scummy Twilightblade!

lol :wink:

GeneralHankerchief

07-27-2007, 03:28

And Caius hasn't?

I have six more posts than him. C'mon.

CountArach

07-27-2007, 05:33

Thats not a reason, same goes for GH

Vote:CountArach
Tell us your thoughouts in the game.

EDIT:Added RoadKill vote and Vote Count Added
Vote Count:
GH - 4 (Stig, Killfr3nzy, Xdeath, RoadKill)
Caius - 2 (GH, CA)
CA- 1 (Caius)
Come on people! He isn't even being subtle! Voting against someone simply becayse they voted for you is so scummy. That is what this is!

pevergreen

07-27-2007, 07:26

this day is going to have to go a bit longer, sorry. busy.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-27-2007, 07:37

shlin was the heretical witch, i was the inquisitor... my job was to investigate this witch succesfully... youve been hunting the wrong people for the entire time...Strange how you didn't reveal this before you died, we may have trusted you more then. The really odd thing I find though, is that it took you time to post the role up - were you thinking about it during the time? Also, why do you suddenly reveal that you have to kill the witch after she reveals herself? From what I can see here, you are inventing the inquisitor role as you go along.

Anyhow, you are dead, there is no point contesting your guilt. It will do nothing for you or the town. It will just give the spies a distraction, or is that what you want?

Csargo

07-27-2007, 07:58

Role In-Depth:
Name: Siegfried
Team: Solo Character
Weapon Type: Knives
Fight Skill: 5
Minor Victory: Succesfully investigate atleast one spy
Major Victory: Succesfully investigate atleast one spy and the heretical witch
Special Role Specifics: You can investigate one person every second night, a succesful attempt says wether a person is guilty or not (mafia and evil are listed guilty). The results will be given to you the night after you investigated. 75% chance on succes and 25% chance on failure.

Notice the obvious misspellings, also the grammar. pever wouldn't make such mistakes. Obviously you were lieing.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-27-2007, 08:02

Notice the obvious misspellings, also the grammar. pever wouldn't make such mistakes. Obviously you were lieing.It also may be important to note that pevergreen didn't supply any percentages in the PMs of others.

Csargo

07-27-2007, 08:13

It also may be important to note that pevergreen didn't supply any percentages in the PMs of others.

:yes:

Omanes Alexandrapolites

07-27-2007, 09:16

Before I depart, I wish to supply you with my opinions of the remaining players:

Garcilaso - Not quite a mafia suspect, but close too it. He has been lurking quite alot, and, when he did return, he immediately abstains demonstrating a neutral projection on the game so far. Mafia players often use this tactic. However, he has been inactive in other areas of the .Org. I doubt one game means that much to him that he will simply not show many signs of activity anywhere.

Xdeathfire - A confirmed hero.

Stig - Confirmed innocent. His Role PM seemed genuine with no discrepancies. Andres, also confirmed innocent, can vouch for him.

Roadkill - Another one of our lurkers. He's on vacation in Japan though, so we could probably excuse him. He hasn't really posted enough to give any signs of suspicion. He's to be considered as a potential target, but I doubt that he should be lynched unless there is nobody else.

Killfr3nzy - Suspiciously turns up in the most recent round, more than likely in fear of suffering the WoG. He hasn't been active anywhere else either, although I think the Gameroom is the only place he does post nowadays. He has been lurking in the thread and constantly observing it though. He's definitely avoiding posting, whatever he may say.

GeneralHankerchief - A very dangerous player. He has a werewolf name, and names do seem to hint towards a player's role, despite what he claims. In addition, he is overly defensive, always crying out his innocence, often using unproven theories to re-enforce his argument - as if he's going to suffer a defeat if he is killed. He also, in a duel, levitated an object towards Warmaster Horus - all of the more recent kills have also involved levitation. If there is an Ancient Evil, I would gamble most of my money that he is most likely to be it.

CountArach - An almost silent player, although not too silent for any evidence to be found against him. He seems a little too eager to lynch Garcilaso. Other than that though, sadly, nothing.

I henceforth suggest, lynching in this order:
GeneralHankerchief
Killfr3nzy/Garcilaso
CountArach
RoadKill
Xdeathfire
Stig

Andres

07-27-2007, 09:21

Ok, GH, you have been screaming out your innocence. I am not convinced, but I don't want to bore you any longer by obliging you to say "I'm innocent, you are all wrong".

Instead, I want to come back here:

I can see innocence a lot easier than comb through threads to find guilt.

Since it is easy for you to see who is innocent, I would like to know which living players are innocent in your opinion and why ?

Stig

07-27-2007, 09:41

I agree with the Lynch Order Omanes made, seems to only proper one.
Let's just hope we can hold on that long.

Tran

07-27-2007, 12:24

Andres

07-27-2007, 13:12

Vote: Caius

A quick-read through these pages made me think he is scummy

Which posts in particular made you think so?

Stig

07-27-2007, 13:36

Andres

07-27-2007, 13:47

I did not vote GH, I unvote and voted Caius to tie the damned thing

However as it seems that people are unwilling to have a tie, I'll tie it again:
Unvote, vote: Tran
Where did you come from? Did you finally read the PM from your mafia friend who told you to get back in the game?

Vote Count:
GH - 3 (Killfr3nzy, Xdeath, RoadKill)
Caius - 3 (GH, CA, Tran)
CA- 1 (Caius)
Tran -1 (Stig)

The round is extended by pevergreen. However, a tie won't mean another extension, TB will have to decide who to lynch. So I'm afraid a tie won't create more discussion. En plus, it's easy for the mafia to quickly cast a vote and break the tie, saving his buddy or himself.

Tran, CA, GH and Caius need special attention imo.

I want an answer to my questions:

@GH: Since you said yourself that it is easy for you to see who is innocent, I would like to know which living players are innocent in your opinion and why ?

@Tran: You said Caius seems scummy to you. On which posts in particular is that opinion based?

@CA: you voted Caius because he abstained. Do you have other reasons to vote him? Why is Caius scummier than other players? What are your thoughts on GH and Tran?

Thats not a reason, same goes for GH

Vote:CountArach

Ok Caius, I'll repeat Stigs' question: why did you vote CA over GH? Or was your vote a simple retaliation vote? What are your thoughts on GeneralHankerchief? Do you have other suspects on your list?

Tran

07-27-2007, 13:50

Which posts in particular made you think so?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1620441#post1620441

Also, why do you suspect all people who voted Caius? Do you think Caius is innocent? Why?

Where did you come from? Did you finally read the PM from your mafia friend who told you to get back in the game?
Been away for a while. Nope

Stig

07-27-2007, 13:55

Stig

07-27-2007, 13:58

Next to that you haven't even been properly away, you checked this game every other day. But you aren't as active as normal. Surely you have other things to do, but that's no excuse, as you were lurking, to avoid suspicion, you dirty little mafia you.

Andres

07-27-2007, 14:12

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1620441#post1620441

Also, why do you suspect all people who voted Caius? Do you think Caius is innocent? Why?

Tran, CA, GH and Caius need special attention imo.

So, no, I am not convinced Caius is innocent. I just wonder why you think he is guilty. Now that you have showed us the post which caught your eye, can you tell me what in particular makes it a scummy post? It doesn't say "Hi, I'm Caius. I am mafia", so it must be something else. What?

And now that you have found the time to read and post in this thread, can you tell us what you think about GeneralHankerchief and CA?

Tran

07-27-2007, 15:29

Well how did you come back to this game?

Surely you forgot about it?
And if people forget about things they never like coming back, even if they do they never read all of the posts very well. So you could never see that Caius was more scummy than GH? Surely you are saving your friend here around you?
Check my posts and previous activity in this thread.

Or are the three of you mafia? And did you have to make a choice and would you rather have had GH than Caius?
Nope.

And if you are truely innocent send your Role PM to Andres.

And now he edits: "nope" to "Been away for a while. Nope". You thought that might give you away, did you?
Does it really make any differences? ~:rolleyes:

Next to that you haven't even been properly away, you checked this game every other day. But you aren't as active as normal. Surely you have other things to do, but that's no excuse, as you were lurking, to avoid suspicion, you dirty little mafia you.
Excuse me?

So, no, I am not convinced Caius is innocent. I just wonder why you think he is guilty. Now that you have showed us the post which caught your eye, can you tell me what in particular makes it a scummy post? It doesn't say "Hi, I'm Caius. I am mafia", so it must be something else. What?

And now that you have found the time to read and post in this thread, can you tell us what you think about GeneralHankerchief and CA?
You haven't answered my first question. :bow:

Stig

07-27-2007, 15:33

So you're not willing to answer?
Why?

You are avoiding our questions, because you don't want to be caught. I'd say we lynch Tran today

Andres

07-27-2007, 15:42

Been away for a while.

This is a lie.

With the exception of the 24th and the 26th of July, you posted at the Org every day since the beginning of this game (and you posted in other "time consuming" mafia games as well).

You haven't answered my first question.

I never said I suspected all who voted Caius. Me being suspicious about the players I named is not necessarily related to the fact that they voted Caius.

So, no, I am not convinced Caius is innocent. I just wonder why you think he is guilty. Now that you have showed us the post which caught your eye, can you tell me what in particular makes it a scummy post? It doesn't say "Hi, I'm Caius. I am mafia", so it must be something else. What?

And now that you have found the time to read and post in this thread, can you tell us what you think about GeneralHankerchief and CA?

Now, is it possible to give a decent reaction to this post, please?

Stig

07-27-2007, 15:45

As I said Tran, PM your role to Andres and you can be confirmed innocent.
If Andres does not get your PM within an hour (and you are active now) you are quilty

Tran

07-27-2007, 16:06

This is a lie.
When did I say "I was away for a week"?

I never said I suspected all who voted Caius. Me being suspicious about the players I named is not necessarily related to the fact that they voted Caius.
The fact remained that you placed your suspicion on all people who voted Caius.

So, no, I am not convinced Caius is innocent. I just wonder why you think he is guilty. Now that you have showed us the post which caught your eye, can you tell me what in particular makes it a scummy post? It doesn't say "Hi, I'm Caius. I am mafia", so it must be something else. What?

And now that you have found the time to read and post in this thread, can you tell us what you think about GeneralHankerchief and CA?
Now, is it possible to give a decent reaction to this post, please?
Which particular post? You can read GH's post and which post he responded to, and all Caius posts. That's enough for me.

As for GH and CA, I don't think they're mafia. GH also ever said he'll be away for a while too. And if you insist, then I'd like to know what make them suspicious.

As I said Tran, PM your role to Andres and you can be confirmed innocent.
If Andres does not get your PM within an hour (and you are active now) you are quilty
https://img231.imageshack.us/img231/861/mobsterfu3.jpg

Stig

07-27-2007, 16:11

Any innocent can PM his role to Andres (or Omanes) and they will be cleared and known as innocent. Surely you want that, as you are innocent.

Or aren't you you little dirty mafioso

Tran

07-27-2007, 16:19

Any innocent can PM his role to Andres (or Omanes) and they will be cleared and known as innocent. Surely you want that, as you are innocent.
Hold on, how do you know that Omanes is innocent?

Andres

07-27-2007, 16:25

The fact remained that you placed your suspicion on all people who voted Caius.

Coincidence.

Which particular post? You can read GH's post and which post he responded to, and all Caius posts. That's enough for me.

But not for me. What makes those posts suspicious. Is there something scummy? A flaw in his reasoning? Something evasive? Please explain.

And if you insist, then I'd like to know what make them suspicious.

I'm dead and confirmed innocent. I don't need to give explanations. The living do. You're alive and I want to know if you are mafia or not, so I need you to talk.

Can you pm me your role ?

Stig

07-27-2007, 18:53

Hold on, how do you know that Omanes is innocent?
Andres told me

Caius

07-27-2007, 19:02

Ok Caius, I'll repeat Stigs' question: why did you vote CA over GH? Or was your vote a simple retaliation vote? What are your thoughts on GeneralHankerchief? Do you have other suspects on your list?

Look Andres, I think GH wanted the first "mistake" to vote who made the error, he could ask the same thing without voting me.

GeneralHankerchief

07-27-2007, 19:03

Andres, in response to your previous question on who I think is innocent:

CountArach
Tran
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Stig
Dutch Guy
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

These are the liv'uns. Out of all of these I'd say Dutch_guy is the most innocent. He is inactive in all places on the .Org but the kills are still coming. However, this also means that he is WoG-bait.

After that I'd say Killfr3nzy because he is posting in his usual style and to my knowledge he hasn't been mafia at all. If he's guilty, he's doing a good job at it.

Finally, I'd say Stig because he keeps trying to extend the round and keep the tie going. Not mafia behavior at all.

Stig

07-27-2007, 19:05

As I said DG is on holiday, he won't post

Andres

07-27-2007, 19:05

Can you pm me a non forged role pm, GH?

Caius

07-27-2007, 19:07

Can you pm me a non forged role pm, GH?
Why would GH send Andres a forged PM? Are you hiding something.

Csargo

07-27-2007, 19:52

Oh this is getting good :evil:

CountArach

07-27-2007, 22:59

@CA: you voted Caius because he abstained. Do you have other reasons to vote him? Why is Caius scummier than other players? What are your thoughts on GH and Tran?
I really haven't been paying much attention to this game. I also wanted to get some talking out of him, which Abstaining wouldn't do, sso therefore it was a pressure votes. The only effective pressure votes I have seen are the ones where you don't tell them that they are a pressure vote. I kept my vote on him because he voted for me in response.

As for Tran and GH. I really don't think that Tran is evil, but nor do I think he is innocent. My bet is on a neutral role, so I think everyone should keep their eye on him. This new evidence against GH is intriguing. I really don't buy the whole names point towards roles thing, because pever said that they don't.

Edit: Spelling.

GeneralHankerchief

07-27-2007, 23:05

Can you pm me a non forged role pm, GH?

See, that's a nice little trick that Andres did, which I'm pretty sure he learned during his time in law. The wording of it assumes that I have already sent him a PM, presumably a forged one. This is not the case.

CountArach

07-27-2007, 23:09

I find it hard to believe that Andres would simply pretend that you had sent him a Role PM.

Unvote, Vote: Hanky

Csargo

07-27-2007, 23:33

I think I may have to step in here, but I'll wait a little while. See if any of you change your minds.

Andres

07-27-2007, 23:50

See, that's a nice little trick that Andres did, which I'm pretty sure he learned during his time in law. The wording of it assumes that I have already sent him a PM, presumably a forged one. This is not the case.

Tricks? Moi?

Anyway, I confirm what GH is saying. He didn't send me a role pm. He just told me he has deleted it and I should think of it what I wanted.

Stig

07-27-2007, 23:54

Sure he has deleted it :yes:

That's an easy way out GH

GeneralHankerchief

07-27-2007, 23:56

Oh please. I could have easily faked a PM if I wanted to. I've done it plenty of times before.

CountArach

07-28-2007, 00:03

So, Unvote: Hanky

Stig

07-28-2007, 00:04

That's kind of a lame excuse GH, why throw it away in the first place. It's the only thing that can prove your innocence. Delete some send PM's instead.

GeneralHankerchief

07-28-2007, 01:56

Stig, you know how fast the KotR PMs have been flying (at least, for me). I just deleted a whole bunch at once.

Caius

07-28-2007, 02:00

Do you know you can save your entire Pm box?

Stig

07-28-2007, 08:28

Stig, you know how fast the KotR PMs have been flying (at least, for me). I just deleted a whole bunch at once.
I only delete the KOTR PMs and all other mafia PMs, always save the role PM

Killfr3nzy

07-28-2007, 09:10

Vote Count:
GH - 4 (Xdeath, RoadKill, TB, Killfr3nzy)
Caius - 2 (GH, Tran)
CA- 1 (Caius)
Tran - 1 (Stig)

pevergreen

07-28-2007, 11:50

Lycan stepped forward. He knew what was going to happen. He had seen it before, the destruction of the chosen ones. It was not going to happen to him. Lycan teleported himself out of the building, to an unknown place.

Alive:
CountArach
Tran
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Stig
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)
Motep (Steve, Day 2)
Beefy (Maxim, Day 3)
Shlin28 (Kate, Day 4)
GeneralHankerchief (Lycan, Day 5)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)
Prole (Heckor, Night 2)
Sasaki (Lancelot, Night 3)
Sarathos (Robin, Night 3)
The Stranger (Siegfried, Day 4)
Warmaster Horus (Remin, Night 4) [DOUBLE KILLED]
Andres (Andrew, Night 4) [DOUBLE KILLED]

Attacked:
Andres (Andrew, Night 0)

Suicided/Host killed (Wogged)
Ichigo (Clem, Day 4 [Suicided])
Dutch Guy (Warriv, Day 5 [Wogged])

Killfr3nzy

07-28-2007, 12:01

And now we hope like hell he was evil...

Csargo

07-28-2007, 16:45

And now we hope like hell he was evil...

Nope. He was innocent.

GeneralHankerchief

07-28-2007, 17:12

Thanks Csar, why couldn't you have told them that before I was lynched? :wall:

Csargo

07-28-2007, 17:14

Thanks Csar, why couldn't you have told them that before I was lynched? :wall:

Well, I hinted at it, but no one seemed to catch on. I wasn't just going to say it.

TevashSzat

07-28-2007, 17:52

Well im gonna go on vacation tomorrow and wont be back until friday night so Im pretty sure we are gonna need a replacement for me

pevergreen

07-29-2007, 00:05

We'll see.

Caius

07-29-2007, 00:13

Nmd:

CountArach

07-29-2007, 00:54

Everyone has a role.

pevergreen

07-29-2007, 10:45

Write-ups to come, busy.
Stig and Tran killed.

Alive:
CountArach
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)
Motep (Steve, Day 2)
Beefy (Maxim, Day 3)
Shlin28 (Kate, Day 4)
GeneralHankerchief (Lycan, Day 5)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)
Prole (Heckor, Night 2)
Sasaki (Lancelot, Night 3)
Sarathos (Robin, Night 3)
The Stranger (Siegfried, Day 4)
Warmaster Horus (Remin, Night 4) [DOUBLE KILLED]
Andres (Andrew, Night 4) [DOUBLE KILLED]
Tran (Night 5)
Stig (Night 5)

Attacked:
Andres (Andrew, Night 0)

Suicided/Host killed (Wogged)
Ichigo (Clem, Day 4 [Suicided])
Dutch Guy (Warriv, Day 5 [Wogged])