View Full Version : What Faction will reign Supreme?!
Emp. Conralius
07-13-2002, 09:51
Just a topic I was thinking of to see what you guys wanna do once you get the game...
Emp. Conralius
07-13-2002, 09:54
Really I wanna put spin on the HRE by making it the other wa around. We all know that the HRE was basically Germany, Northern Italy, and some Low Countries. But when I play thesingle-player campaign, I want to twist it around. I'de play as Italy, make a great big trade franchise, and then conquer Germany.
well im going to be the english/scotish empire because they were the number one empire in that time.. well i think so anywho if we can become just plain scotish armies than id do that and conquer the ilands and then attack spain/portagal and some of the western empire of the aribs country.then once that is done i will alie with the aribs and let them go bonkers on the eastern side of europe.and while im attacking from the north and the south ill turn to the east and push on to victory.. fyeeewww that was fun.... and even if i cant use just scotish people ill do the same thine with the english/scottish empire.
Krasturak
07-13-2002, 10:24
Gah!
Krast intends to accumulate an army of tired, hungry, homeless sufferers from all the different territories and use it to chop apart and basically soup-ify everything within reach.
rageXghost
07-13-2002, 11:24
Did someone say soup
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Aelfred Magna
07-13-2002, 11:52
My feeling is that the strongest nations will be those in the corners (England, of course, is the first to come to mind) not necessarily so much due to superiority of units, as to pure geography. There just won't be as many people interested in coming in and taking your land, because, unlike, say, the HRE or Byzantium, you're not "on the way" to anywhere else.
Aelfred Magna
07-13-2002, 11:54
or, Conralius, if you were referring to which faction I wish to USE to reign supreme . . . well then, I'd have to say I'd like to beat the odds, take one of those middle factions, and subjugate everyone in any direction, either by force or by trade influence :-D
Emp. Conralius
07-14-2002, 00:07
I would pick a factio with relatively defendable lands such as Italy, England, Egyptians, or Byzantium.
mizuYari
07-14-2002, 14:09
Corner Factions has the advantage of less exposed to many fronts or in the expansion path of some one else.
Center Faction's strategy is to put yourself into a corner.
But it depends on game's balance. In Diplomacy, Center powers such as Germany and Austria-Hungary have easier access to rich provinces.
MizuYari
mizuYari
07-14-2002, 14:11
MizuYari will perhaps play online as a Japanese Faction http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
MIzuYari
Mithrandir
07-14-2002, 23:07
England, has a nice starting position and ofcourse THE LONGBOWMEN http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif.
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Emp. Conralius
07-15-2002, 01:19
The Egyptians have a great position for expansion. England has a great position, but let's not get too comfortable, on the islands themselves you must take care of the Welsh, the Irish, and the Scots. My strategy To combat them would be to become allie and them devise an unexpected invasion (very effective strategy I used in STW). Italy has a good position too. With a strong navy, trade income, and mot of the sourrounding Medditeranean under their control, I'de swing north into Switzerland an hit the Germans in the South. I believe Italy and Germany start off as allies.
Nobunaga0611
07-15-2002, 09:09
I'm not sure if all these factions are in the game, but I'd probably pick the Welsh, German, or Polish factions, as I am part Welsh, German, and Polish http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif Other than that...any non-muslims will do.
Aelfred Magna
07-15-2002, 12:36
well Nobunga you got two outta three . . . you can play as Polish or as German (by way of the Holy Roman Empire) . . . to play Welsh you'll hafta conquer 'em with the English first :-)
We want England
We love England
England are the best (inc. Scotland, Wales and Ireland) http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
GAH!
The Scotts have Fat Bastard... that makes them a major threat, and why England will not be a heavyweight in the world. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif
The Byzantines have a bad rash all over... its called the Turks.
The French have such bad BO that all their neigbors will gang up on them.
The Italians are merely the puppets of the Pope. Ya thought the papist yoke went away? GAH!
The Spanish eat too many beans and will blow themselves up when gunpowder comes around.
The Egyptians walk funny. Moving the hands back and forth like that makes it difficult to fight effectively against any foe... real or imaginary. "Walk like an Egyptian..." http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
The Germans... well, once they start with that whole aryan race thing again, the world will gang up on them and spank them royally. Again.
The Polish, the quintessential victims, will find their neigbors getting medieval on them yet again...
The danes are too busy making those sweet little pastries to notice their aryan brothers creeping up behind them. That and they have been staring at Claire too long...
The Almohads are stuck in Africa. Since when has any african country threatenned Europe? Those turban-clad desert nomads will freeze their cojones off when they hit the European lands north of the Pyrennes.
That leaves the Turks and the Russians.
It can't be the Turks because their starting position is just too lousy (if its anything like that conveyed in the screen shots so far). Unless they actually have some provinces worth a rat's arse, their chances are limited at best, especially if Byzantium mounts an effective defense.
So, that leaves the Russians. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
The Russians will steamroll over the world! Vanya's Tatar legions will smash all opposition!
GAH!
Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 00:58
Actually the Saracens deeply threatened Europe when they crushed many French armies, but were finally stopped by Charles Martel at Tours (circa 732). Ya know, Charlemagne's grandpa...
ok this is how its gonna happen.
1)scottish/english:they will rule because they have the advantage of position,r very rich,and if u r good enough will have the scottish on there side(scottish r the best http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif )
2-4)will be german,french and spanish:this is because they have always been one of the countries who follow the brits in historical events,and they have good wealth and armies.
5-9)are the italians,no efence to the italians but this how it is, im part italian http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif,russians,byzintane,turks and egyptians,this is because they r the empires that sound great and have achieved much and r rich.... but r greedy little lurkers or r ignorant and admire there own beauty.
and finally,10-12)are the danes,polish and aribs:this is because they r the empires that dont really have their eye on conquering as much as wealth and self power and pleasure.also filling our number 12 catagorie r the dirty aribs.they maybe rich and seem powerful in these times but never the less they live in a desert!!!! not much resources.and dont forget that they r dirty little doon coons.
Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 02:57
Lets not forget that the Italians have great naval advantages as well as technilogical innovations. I read that in the game that the Germans/HRE become very powerful very quickly.
Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 02:59
Carnage,
Are you some kind of racist? I personally found your comments offensive! Please refrain from using those steriotypes or prejudice remarks...
Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 03:07
Carnage,
I would also like to inform you that those "sand coons" were able to stay 500 years ahead of the European civs. They made great strides in education, technology, and religion. It wasn't until the Crusades when Europe became the cockpit of the world. After using many customs and trades of the "dirty aribs" (which you spelled wrong), only then did Europe becme what it is today.
sry but when aribs fly into a building and blow away someone in your family,then u can can start crittisizing me but not till then.but since this has happened to me i have every right. he was a friend not family but was to me http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
[This message has been edited by carnage (edited 07-15-2002).]
Red Peasant
07-16-2002, 03:18
Is anyone moderating this discussion? I'm not a rabid PC type but please moderate the racism, it's just soooo mediaeval, as well as stooopid.
England has to control her sea lanes and approaches to prevent interference by her continental neighbours. Is this possible in the game?
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sry if afended anyone else anyone about coments
Red Peasant
07-16-2002, 03:29
Sorry pal, but it is better to show some class. Plenty of Americans have had this quality, join their ranks. Hatred is a useless preoccupation, don't let it warp your life and your perception of the outside world.
Be cool, be tolerant, and believe in karma. The perpertrators of that heinous deed, and their confederates, will get their just desserts in this life or the next. No need to go around hating the millions of people who just happen to share some racial or religious characteristics as them....that's whole lotta hate for one person! Chill. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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[This message has been edited by Red Peasant (edited 07-15-2002).]
i think that what u said made alot of sence and was a good statemnet.. but there is hatred always has been always will be..when u r being created ur characteristics r being developed as is ur brain.
one does not control the mind it controls u.u r just what the mind is putting out.so once again im am sry but do not take it back. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Red Peasant
07-16-2002, 03:49
I feel them bad vibes turnin' to cool ones, nice one Carnage. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
It's difficult to retain one's equilibrium and sense of proportion in this world, but ya gotta keep tryin'...even when the pain and anger rips deepest...especially then. Fight the GOOD fight.
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"Gutta cavat lapidem non vi sed saepe cadendo"
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(The drop hollows the stone not by force but by dripping often)
Red Peasant
07-16-2002, 03:53
....and as for which faction will win, well, once the English, Scots, Irish and Welsh stop burying the hatchet in each other and unite, then they are unstoppable! Always have been.
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"Gutta cavat lapidem non vi sed saepe cadendo"
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(The drop hollows the stone not by force but by dripping often)
Mithrandir
07-16-2002, 03:54
Quote Originally posted by Vanya:
GAH!
The Scotts have Fat Bastard... that makes them a major threat, and why England will not be a heavyweight in the world. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif
The Byzantines have a bad rash all over... its called the Turks.
The French have such bad BO that all their neigbors will gang up on them.
The Italians are merely the puppets of the Pope. Ya thought the papist yoke went away? GAH!
The Spanish eat too many beans and will blow themselves up when gunpowder comes around.
The Egyptians walk funny. Moving the hands back and forth like that makes it difficult to fight effectively against any foe... real or imaginary. "Walk like an Egyptian..." http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
The Germans... well, once they start with that whole aryan race thing again, the world will gang up on them and spank them royally. Again.
The Polish, the quintessential victims, will find their neigbors getting medieval on them yet again...
The danes are too busy making those sweet little pastries to notice their aryan brothers creeping up behind them. That and they have been staring at Claire too long...
The Almohads are stuck in Africa. Since when has any african country threatenned Europe? Those turban-clad desert nomads will freeze their cojones off when they hit the European lands north of the Pyrennes.
That leaves the Turks and the Russians.
It can't be the Turks because their starting position is just too lousy (if its anything like that conveyed in the screen shots so far). Unless they actually have some provinces worth a rat's arse, their chances are limited at best, especially if Byzantium mounts an effective defense.
So, that leaves the Russians. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
The Russians will steamroll over the world! Vanya's Tatar legions will smash all opposition!
GAH!
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I'll have to wait and see but my first choice to play with will probably be the English since they have the unit closest to an Elf (The Longbowmen).
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Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 05:10
Good show Red Peasent!
Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 05:17
The Turks will reign supreme. Great technology, strategic position, good cav., powerful infantry. If I were to play the campaign with the Turks (and I will), I predict that toward the end of the game, I would rule the Mid East, N. Africa, and Eastern Europe, while the West will be disputed by Spain, England, and Germany. Then again, when the Mongolscome, they'll spread like wildfire!
Papewaio
07-16-2002, 11:34
Quote Originally posted by carnage:
i think that what u said made alot of sence and was a good statemnet.. but there is hatred always has been always will be..when u r being created ur characteristics r being developed as is ur brain.
one does not control the mind it controls u.u r just what the mind is putting out.so once again im am sry but do not take it back. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif[/QUOTE]
Actually as a fully functional human you have the capacity to control your mind just like a muscle. It may require a lot of training and there is definite capactiy on how much it can do. But the control is all yours as far as emotional response to a situation you have the choice in how you react.
As for Arabs, in the time period of MTW they were far more advanced then Europe in many different ways. And as for 9/11 that was a single faction of an extremist group of Arabs. Many of them are at war/disagreement with each other. There is at least two major divisions in the Muslim world probably more. And like all religions it is the internal sects that hate each other the most, look at Ireland.
Using the same logic, you might as well hate all Europeans because of Timothy McVeigh.
I'm going to play as the English and Conquer the whole world.... I really cant wait to play this... its going to be so fun!!!
ThorfinnSkullsplitter
07-16-2002, 21:02
I believe Byzantium has all the advantages at 1087 one needs to dominate.By taking out the Turks early before they get to strong,it will clear a path to N Africa.Then you can conncentrate on the Balkans then into Cent. Euro. and italy.
Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 22:39
It won't be so easy for those western civs to conquer the world as you think. The desert will present a whole new level of strategy, your foot knights get tired just by standing around...
Emp. Conralius
07-16-2002, 22:41
Probably the Turks have the best chance of European domination. Although used to the desert climate, the Jannisary core have been trained in harsh winter climates. So you've got a pretty versatile Islamic fation.
ThorfinnSkullsplitter
07-16-2002, 23:42
The Almohads could be set ifthey can conquer the Spanish. Then they could backdoor France and have Camels parade through Paris.
bruteztrausen
07-17-2002, 00:11
Mithandrir are the Mexicans who eat a lot of beans , not the spanish. Be informated, And they killed a lot of russians in the 2nd world war in Leningrad
Emp. Conralius
07-17-2002, 02:25
SkullSplitter,
The Almohads have actually went into France and defeated many of the Frankish armies unitl they were stopped at Tours in 732 AD by Charles Martel (ya know, Charlemagne's grandpa). I hope the Battle of Tours is in the Hisorical Battle section even though it's so long before the game starts. I'de also like to see the Battle of Lepanto, when the Spanish met the Turks, although, for the most part it was a naval battle...
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