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hopefully it will be world war 1, if a modern war is selected, i think people are thinking to basic, along the lines of shogun and medieval, if they thnik of what you could do with the engine, make a very nice game, it just be different, and not along the same lines, there doesnt have to be units, 16 in each bla bla bla, there are diffrent ways you could use the engine.
Poor CA, they mention an IDEA, every1 goes insane, its an IDEA, I think a good one, with a little bit of work. If I was them I'd release a new game, not call it total war, do exactly as they were planning for a world war total war game, I bet you would all love it!
(This is posted again because I cant see it on my computer, sorry if you can)
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Emp. Conralius
07-17-2002, 02:38
I think the WWI or WWII TW idea really isn't good...
Emp. Conralius
07-17-2002, 02:39
I think after CA covers Rome and the Dark Ages, then they can move on to modern combat.
Mithrandir
07-17-2002, 02:45
I think there are already 3 other discussions on this and this tpic should be closed
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Quote FANTASY TOTAL WAR![/QUOTE]
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Discussions! Discussions! More like slagging off matches! why dont poeple think about it more
Fantasy total war is a great idea!
Emp. Conralius
07-17-2002, 04:34
Mithrandir is right, this whole TW3 discussion has outlived it's welcome. Or that's just my opinion, I could be wrong...
The problem with "modern war" is:
Airplanes! How do airplanes work in battle mode? Or are they a strategic unit like shinobis in Shoggy or ships in MTW?
Ships! Same thing.
Gas! Same thing. Surely you won't have a civ-like unit that is a "cloud of mustard gas" you can move around, complete with "honor", attack and defense bonuses... GAH!
Other than that, the cries of "GUN MONKEY BE GONE" will become deafenning in a game featuring all gun-based units...
Emp. Conralius
07-17-2002, 06:35
Modern diplomacy would be whack too...
Yeah, maybe your right
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"U dare challenge the drunken ninjas!"
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Mithrandir
07-17-2002, 20:46
I truly believe that FTW has a lot of potential, there are unlimited units, already more then enough to chose from ,from my bible (LOTR) and other lore, and games.
It can be exactly as tactical as the other games in the TW series, there's the option of new units,I mean with new abilitys, like dragons (ultimate unite,like kensai but much more expensive ,can fly,slight ranged attack only attackalbe by archer units etc.) etc. etc. etc.
the only thing which would make it "drop out of the series is it's lack of historical background, but who cares if it's a great game,and I think there'll be more people interested in it than just another version of STW (imo MTW will also just be a huge STW expansion, since tehre'll still be the same units (except for siege and a few others)....
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sounds like a great idea, because of the different abilities of trolls and goblins and stuff, oh the joy of sending 200 goblins againts a dragon...
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"U dare challenge the drunken ninjas!"
Rokkaku of the Drunken Ninjas
Quote Originally posted by Vanya:
The problem with "modern war" is:
Airplanes! How do airplanes work in battle mode? Or are they a strategic unit like shinobis in Shoggy or ships in MTW?
Ships! Same thing.
Gas! Same thing. Surely you won't have a civ-like unit that is a "cloud of mustard gas" you can move around, complete with "honor", attack and defense bonuses... GAH!
Other than that, the cries of "GUN MONKEY BE GONE" will become deafenning in a game featuring all gun-based units...
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Like Rokkaku I think it is possible but you have to stop thinking in STW or MTW terms.
It would be a completely different game but still using 3D graphic ability.
Like in Sudden Strike where you hit a button to call up an airstrike. Perhaps aircraft could all be AI controlled and you just see them fighting overhead and dropping bombs all over the place. You would have to adapt your tatics depending on your units getting bombed etc..
Take in anti-aircraft units to cover or take more tanks and infantry?
WW1 you could basically keep aircraft out of it, WWII would be totally different though.
Long Range Artillery could be off-map behind your lines sufficient to not play a part in battle other than the shells landing. Small artillery, tanks etc.. could all be done as MTW is starting to show.
Trenches and barbed wire, mines would all need some thought.
However where the Modern War idea really goes off the rails as far as the Total War series goes, is that it's only 1v1, not multi-faction. So I would see this sort of thing as a side-branching while still carrying on the Total War series.
Unless of course they did a fictional campaign based on the tech of the time http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Would sure stop all the 'That's not how the unit was like in real-life comments'.
I am sure the devs would like to do something a bit different then come back and make a really great third Total War game, with alot of the features that advanced PC's would be able to handle. Say 3-4 years time.
A fictional campaign would work, but I think we are now treading into grey area, airstrikes sound cool, each air strike calling takes up a regiment of your forces, then you call them in, control them four 2 minutes, then retreat.
I think in the next total war game they need to do something really different.
Stephen Hummell
07-17-2002, 22:05
AWNAW, Hell naw
I think the best way to solve this problem is to let the combat evolve. With use of the late era units in this game we can deduce what works and what doesn't and decide how we want said pieces to work. for example if say Napoleonic is next we can practice large formations moving in unisin while we range and aim long range weapons. this in essence can give us an eye for airplanes, gas and potentially nukes....though one nuke on a battle field would be kinda boring...perhaps nuking Shinano before you take it would be more practical...
vyanvotts
07-17-2002, 22:29
wheres the logic in nuking somwhere before you take it?
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