View Full Version : Move along folks, nothing to see here.
I told you before and I'll likely tell it again, the dutch police is nothing more then then a poetryclub for man/robot hybrids with a compulsive ticketwriting disorder. Not that I am against torturing pedophiles to death mind you, but they didn't know that at the time. So, here goes.
Neighbours hear screaming, and for some reason still think calling the police is the way to go. Must have been a bycicle light razzia somewhere because they were there within 5 minutes. Hey Sherlock do I hear screaming? Yes Dr Wattson that is most definitily screaming. Can we fine him for making too much noise? No I don't think we can, not enough noise. I don't see any double parking, I am having a mental shutdown here. Must...fine...dunno...what....
Fast forward 30 minutes. Hmmmm, screaming stopped. Nothing wrong after all, case closed move along people!! Protect serve you know huh, you know who to call. Hehe yeah us.
Well at that time the 'victim' was kinda tortured to death, and could all this have been prevented? Yes kinda. I guess. Just knocking on the door could have been a apropiate course of action. But nah, they just stood there, for half an hour.
CHAPEAU!
Papewaio
07-06-2007, 09:59
Link?
Link?
Won't help you, or any of us. Is in dutch. But here goes, http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/66891721/Politie_doof_voor_gegil_martelmoord.html?p=2,1
And these are the guys that tell us we can't have firearms :laugh4: :laugh4:
Well, it's sufficient for me Frag, says there were even other bystanders on the street.
It's weird that the neighbors thought the screaming was a reason to call the police but the police didn't think it was sufficient to investigate. Usually you should hear that someone is in danger by the way he screams so I guess I'd put those policemen in prison for that.
Guess you can't even blame the bystanders since when the police is there, I'd assume that everything is under their control or that they at least know what they're doing.:wall:
Ah well, a 9mm, piece of plastic and a saw, dutch home survival-kit. Chop&drop, the only option we have.
Gregoshi
07-06-2007, 14:41
Where is a good, sword-wielding neighbor when you need them?
That is a sad story Fragony.
Where is a good, sword-wielding neighbor when you need them?
If one of those was there, probably in jail right now.
Ah, a Telegraaf link, exaggeration here we come.
So, any link to a quality newspaper?
Ah, a Telegraaf link, exaggeration here we come.
So, any link to a quality leftwing newspaper?
you kidding me? Of course not. :inquisitive:
Yes I vote D66, so what? ~D
My bet is, as I said, it's an exaggeration
Don't know this website, but here is more
http://www.endandit.nl/regionaal/2007/07/05/doodgemarteld-onder-politietoezicht
Even NOS hoaxlines has her version, afraid it's real.
Gah I want edit back forgot link
http://www.nosheadlines.nl/forum.php/list_messages/7256
A translation to English would have been splendid.
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On the picture (http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/66891721/Politie_doof_voor_gegil_martelmoord.html?p=2,1) of the Telegraaf the victim looks a lot younger than 28 (which is his age stated in the other links here (http://www.nosheadlines.nl/forum.php/list_messages/7256) and here (http://www.endandit.nl/regionaal/2007/07/05/doodgemarteld-onder-politietoezicht)).
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Anyway, the police's explanation (from the audio file) does not appear unsound at first. Barging in without proper preparation is futile. However, if the sounds of torture were true and constant as has been stated, then they "should have" recognized that a person was heavily in danger and action was to be executed at once. However (again), one does not know the exact situation, though immediate action would have revealed much. Difficult.
One thing is certain: the police's idle stance did not help.
Anyway, the police's explanation (from the audio file) does not appear unsound at first. Barging in without proper preparation is futile. However, if the sounds of torture were true and constant as has been stated, then they "should have" recognized that a person was heavily in danger and action was to be executed at once. However (again), one does not know the exact situation, though immediate action would have revealed much. Difficult.
There is no excuse, if someone is in mortal danger the police must act. When more cops arived more cops just stood there by the way. I think the sad truth is that they simply don't see it as their job, writing tickets, that's their job.
I think the sad truth is that they simply don't see it as their job, writing tickets, that's their job.
This may be it. Their safety, bureaucracy, and so forth, is possibly so heavily ingrained any dangerous situation is perhaps too much to handle. Maybe a reason for this is lack of "real crime?" (...where I refer to a country like America having it in larger and more dangerous numbers.)
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