Donation request

[bovi]

Fellow EBers!

EB is free to download and use, and will stay that way. However, keeping our servers and bandwidth up is not free, and we are downgrading them now in order to reduce this cost. We ask you to consider supporting EB with a small donation for this purpose (Paypal charges $0.30 per transaction in some cases, plus a percentage, so please make the donation bigger than this :beam:). You can do so through our website at https://www.europabarbarorum.org, the button is in the lower right corner.

Note that we are not trying to make a profit, nor will we accept money for any other purpose than these running costs. All donations will strictly be used for this server/bandwidth maintenance, and the donation button will be disabled when the costs are covered. See the Disclaimer (https://www.europabarbarorum.org/ebcomwww/disclaimer.html) for more information on this policy.

Edit by Kull: Fixed URL links

[Lovejoy]

Bah! No money left. I used the last on the pub and on a pair of jeans. I destroyed my last good pair at the pub while dancing. Erhm..

I dont have a mastercard or a visa anyway. How does Paypal works? Do I need a visa or a mastercard for it to work?

[Aristophanes]

Have you considered a contest or some sort of game where, depending on the level of donations, new content is displayed, information provided, etc...

What about giving recognition to people who have made contributions and significant contributions?

Maybe a thread with a list of names, etc...? Just a thought.

[bovi]

Paypal is a debit payment service. In contrast to credit payment where you first buy stuff and pay later, here you add money to your account and then pay. You can add money to your account by mastercard/visa, certainly, but also by single payments from your bank, so you do not have to give paypal your credit card information and do not require having it either. I believe Paypal restricts accounts without credit card information registered to 1000$ worth though, but that's irrelevant for this.

Note that Paypal works in dollars or euro, I think conversion rates apply to those with other currencies.

[edyzmedieval]

Have you considered a contest or some sort of game where, depending on the level of donations, new content is displayed, information provided, etc...

What about giving recognition to people who have made contributions and significant contributions?

Maybe a thread with a list of names, etc...? Just a thought.

I second this thing, with the name list.

[Pode]

Wow, I just checked the progress chart and think I'd better hurry if I'm going to donate. You posted the request not quite 7 hours ago and are already more than 80% to your goal. Do you guys feel the love yet?:2thumbsup:

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Hehe. That amount is over the last two years. Most of that (roughly 90% is from a handful of EB members). We need some help with the most current quarter's server costs, which are a part of that total, but we definitely don't have those sort of costs every quarter. Sorry if that was confusing to anyone.

[Iasonis]

What about giving recognition to people who have made contributions and significant contributions?

Maybe a thread with a list of names, etc...? Just a thought.



This is a good idea and im sure you will always reach your goal

[CutLunch]

I'm extremely pleased with EB - it's the best mod by a mile.
Happy to help with the costs. :)

[abou]

Thanks, man. We appreciate it greatly.

[Reno Melitensis]

Because I love so much to play EB, I decided to make my thanks to you via a donation. Thanks for this wonderful mod guys, hope that your target fee is reached.

Cheers.

[Gaias]

Just donated! Keep up the great work on making my RTW experience as wonderful and fun as possible. :2thumbsup:

[Perturabo]

Been playing EB for over a year now and its by far the best.. happy to help :2thumbsup:

[paullus]

Thanks guys! I hope you'll stick around and enjoy both the eb mod and the forums here as well!

[KARTLOS]

do you guys have any lines of comunication open with CA? i was under the impression that they were big fans of alot of the modding community and (imo) yours is probably the most impressive out there. i would have thought they might be willing to contribute something to your running costs. you do essentially provide a great advert for their company.

[LusitanianWolf]

Can you put here the link for donations, please?
I think the europabarbarorum.com is down:

[QwertyMIDX]

We changed domain names actually. https://www.europabarbarorum.org/

[tribunus militaris]

brblblbrrbr

I tried to get at the link but I got this reply: This Account Has Been Suspended

and now?

[Gazius]

Whatever EB does, please, please, do not keep your money in a paypal account. It is not a registered bank, they can freeze your account at will, and you will never see that money again. I've known way too many people personally, and read about many more, who've had this happen to them.

[Kull]

brblblbrrbr

I tried to get at the link but I got this reply: This Account Has Been Suspended

and now?

Just a bad link - it should work fine now. Thanks.

[Wladyslaw IV]

I'll donate 30. Because I saw your orginal website id has been suspended. Now you are at europabarorum.org which might and probably is cheaper, I guess.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Because I saw your orginal website id has been suspended. Now you are at europabarorum.org which might and probably is cheaper, I guess.
Is it permanent or only a temporary change?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

We did switch to a cheaper host, so it will save some money for us, but the europabarbarorum.com url is just temporarily not working. Everything should be back up again in a few days but for now all the files are up on the .org version of the same.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Ah, OK. I would donate but I'm a poor student who had to pay €650,- to my university last week, plus I'm afraid of Paypal.~:0

[Xehh II]

Is paypal the only way to donate?

[KARTLOS]

We did switch to a cheaper host, so it will save some money for us, but the europabarbarorum.com url is just temporarily not working. Everything should be back up again in a few days but for now all the files are up on the .org version of the same.

have you considered asking ca?

[Digby Tatham Warter]

have you considered asking ca?
That's an interesting point, certainly from the perspective that CA benefit from the mods IMO, in that they increase both appeal and interest in their games, and thus sales, one would presume.

But when it comes to the big guys parting with the dosh, well that's perphaps a different matter.

[KARTLOS]

That's an interesting point, certainly from the perspective that CA benefit from the mods IMO, in that they increase both appeal and interest in their games, and thus sales, one would presume.

But when it comes to the big guys parting with the dosh, well that's perphaps a different matter.

well it could be considered a form of marketing. how much money is needed to run the website for the year?

i imagine a few hundred £'s would be nothing on the overall running costs of CA but could probably go a long way to helping EB out.
I seriously think it is something worth looking at. Are their lines of communication available? I know Lusted who posts here on the org has just started working for them for example.

[Foot]

well it could be considered a form of marketing. how much money is needed to run the website for the year?

i imagine a few hundred £'s would be nothing on the overall running costs of CA but could probably go a long way to helping EB out.
I seriously think it is something worth looking at. Are their lines of communication available? I know Lusted who posts here on the org has just started working for them for example.

If they started giving us money, then its reasonable for other mods to expect the same treatment. Slippery slope to CA supporting modding teams, which is not wise and isn't particularly good for us either. If individual CA members wanted to support our team we would welcome their donations as if they were any other fan, but the company supporting us is just not on the cards, and we wouldn't want it to be.

Just don't pursue this line of enquiry any further.

Foot

[pseudocaesar]

well along the lines of revenue raising, look at RTR 7, a lot of people have or are planning to buy barbarian invasion just for RTR, im sure if u ported to BI people would do the same, so CA cant deny Mods help raise revenue.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

We've always said the final EB1 product would be playable with the last patched version of RTW though, so we are still working towards that end.

[Digby Tatham Warter]

Just donated, rest assured you will continue to recieve my financial support, Thankyou to all you hard grafting EB's.

[bovi]

The status as I write is that $2591 out of $2600 is paid, and with my own donation of the last 9 dollars the site should disable the donation button once it's updated, for a while. Our reduced costs due to our two servers being consolidated into one will hopefully keep the balance good.

If you want to make a contribution but the current costs have already been covered, like now, please wait until the next month (not very far off this time). I would like to heartily thank all contributors :balloon2:.

[bovi]

Thank you again for covering our costs :balloon:.

[Sassem]

Thank you again for covering our costs :balloon:.

Thank you for posting it was a sort of reminder :horn: for me to donate

[Azazel]

Damn!:wall: I was reading through the forums and was getting ready to donate. I'll definitely show my support next month, EB is well worth a donation :2thumbsup:

Glad you guys could reach your goal!!

[Sassem]

Q: You can donate when ever you want or not?


I did it today

when you're little bit in the + for the next pay check hurts nobody i guess right now the chart is $13 short for september or not

do i understand it right that you need $75 every month?

[Wladyslaw IV]

Check yer coffers :beam:


I just put in 30.00 denarii (USD :no: )

I can't help but appreciate everything EB has done, it's legions of fans squandering away their youth, and my brand new computer come December :beam:

Thanks EB!

PS: I hope I'm not a day late. It said you were a little bit short per August 2007. It is now September.

[bovi]

The web page isn't updated realtime or even daily, so the donation button may still be there even though the costs are in reality covered, and you can still donate at that time. But on the next page update, it will disappear so no more donations can be made until more costs are accumulated (as we do not do this for profit).

If you have donated in excess of the current negative balance, or you donated "late", it is not lost! It will count towards the next month's cost. I've forgot the exact cost per month, but I think it was 70 or 75 USD.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

You guys are great! Thanks for supporting us like you do! :2thumbsup:

[Little Legioner]

I put 25.00 Denarii (usd) to your coffers! Hope it helps.

You did an excellent project for us and you deserve every kind of support.

I just wanted to show my appreciation :bow:

Godspeed team EB!

[Mouzafphaerre]

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10 of the appr. 80 bucks I earned today is yours. :bow:
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[NightStar]

Thanx for a great mod after all that work that went into the mod, I am glad I can do my part to keep the server up and running :2thumbsup:

[Senatus Populusque Romanus]

I want to donate money, but i am a high school student and have no way to use paypal or other method to donate :(

[bovi]

That is okay. Everyone plays, those who have the means donate.

[bovi]

Just a minor bump, as we currently are more than 100 dollars short of the accumulated costs. It is no crisis, but please consider making a small donation at www.europabarbarorum.org.

Again many thanks to those who have contributed. ~:grouphug:

[Sassem]

I will donate this weekend BTW in €

so it is for us europeans much cheaper to reach the 100$ shortage:idea2:

[johnhughthom]

$10 dollars today on top of the $10 I donated last year is the least I can do to thank you for all the hours of pleasure EB has given me. :bow:

[Vexillari]

This mod is worth at least 2 buggy, quick-release-so-we-can-make-cash-and-patch-it-later games from big studios.

I love the history and the sense of immersion in the game. Fabulous work.

Here's $100 USD.:smash:

[bovi]

Oh, wow. That's quite a lot more than expected from a single contributor, and it is certainly not necessary for others to match that amount! Of course, we are grateful for your very generous donation, which should cover the current costs and most if not all of next month's :balloon2:.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Indeed, thanks vexillari!

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Wow!

[Mouzafphaerre]

This mod is worth at least 2 buggy, quick-release-so-we-can-make-cash-and-patch-it-later games from big studios.

I love the history and the sense of immersion in the game. Fabulous work.

Here's $100 USD.:smash:
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Thank you sir, I envy that. :bow:
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[konny]

I had spend some 30,00 € (about 50$) for my RTW box. Of course this money has to go to EB in the first place.

[Papal Knight]

I threw another $45 US onto the pile. :beam: Put simply, efforts like this mod must be rewarded. I can see you guys get alot of praise and accolades on the various forums, but that does not pay the bills!!

Thank you for a wonderful gaming experience!!!!!!!!!!!

[AzJeff]

I guess this is as good a place as any for my first post! :2thumbsup:

Wanted to say I am thoroughly enjoying this mod and can see a tremendous amount of work and effort went into it. :tredmil:

Sent some $$ your way - worth every penny - good work!

~:thumb:

[bovi]

Just a reminder, our server costs are currently covered, so you can postpone any more donations until it's required once more (which would be march, I think). We do not do this for profit, and I'm sure the donation button will be disabled soon and enabled again then.

[LJC]

Done. The small amount I've just donated is nothing compared to the quality of your work..anyway that's what I can do now, and I intend to donate again as soon as possible.
You are my heroes..keep up with your work&passion ~;)

[bovi]

Thanks to all who have donated, the will to keep our server up is most appreciated.

Regardless, there has been a lack of donations in the last months (perhaps due to my previous post here), and we are now in the red by more than 150$. Please consider making a small contribution. Thank you again :bow:.

[socal_infidel]

Donated. Let's hope my math was right...

[Marcus Livius Drusus]

5$ usd from me. God knows I've dl'd the bloody thing that many times, I think I'm still coming away on top. Thanks for making such a great game all. A thread like this is the push I needed to register with the forum.

[Ancyrean]

Considering that EB is the game that enriched me the most and that I play it more than any other game for around 1.5 years, the donation of 50 $ that I just made seems like the least I can do... :bow:

Thanks to everyone that contributed to making EB the legend that it has become... ~:) :2thumbsup: :bow:

[Aemilius Paulus]

Why doesn't the EB team consider selling merchandise such as shirts, hoodies, mouse pads, etc with EB themes on the merchandise? I am sure you will have tons of customers and I will be one of them! :yes: There are definitely more than 100,000 people playing EB and about 5,000 of them hardcore fans who would pay a considerable price for stuff with EB on it. This way you'll never have to worry about donations and plus you will have extra money to further improve EB or just some for yourself!~;)

[keravnos]

The minute we make some money "for ourselves" as you say, is the minute CA can shut us down, or make further games of its franchise unmodifiable.

This is a perfect situation as it is. CA makes the games moddable, we can help improve them. Why jinx it? I don't think any of us are in it for the money.

[Digby Tatham Warter]

The minute we make some "for ourself" as you say, is the minute CA can shut us down, or make further games of its franchise unmodifiable.

This is a perfect situation as it is. CA makes the games moddable, we can help improve them. Why jinx it? I don't think any of us are in it for the money.

So is there no way of doing it from the perspective of covering costs, and a surplus goes to charity?
Hell, give any profits to CA and they might make stuff even more modable.
I'm another who would like to buy the EB goodies for me and my kid.

[Foot]

We've discussed it internally and we've decided against it. You may see them as prizes in other competitions, but there are no plans in the short- medium- or long-term future.

Foot

[bovi]

We are again somewhat short, this time about 250$. Even though the USD has risen lately, we hope that you can make a small donation to keep our server up. Thank you.

[Tartaros]

ok,
25$ are on the way...
best wishes :beam:

[softiron]

6$ from me. It's small but always something...
Best wishes and my respect for awesom work done on the mod...

[Sumskilz]

Just sent $15. Thanks for a great mod. Looking forward to EB II.

[XSamatan]

Could you please give us a update of the donation chart??

Chrismas is coming, and before I spend my money for a present to my girlfriend.....

XSamatan

[Foot]

https://www.europabarbarorum.com/donations.html is up to date.

Foot

[keravnos]

And to cut a long story short, we are -200$ (short).

I don't blame the present financial crisis for that, but everything you can give, we can surely use. If you happen to read the donations' disclaimer, EVERY SINGLE DIME you donate is used to keep the server running.

Thank you for your support, we will always need it.

[mlc82]

I put in a little tonight, hopefully my financial situation picks up soon and I can throw in quite a bit more for you guys! Thanks again for this awesome mod, I've gotten so much more "play value" from EB than I have from most $50 priced PC games! Assuming I can cover my rent and food this month, I'll send you guys some more a few weeks from now, please keep up the good work on EB2 and make Medieval 2 finally worth playing :2thumbsup:

Edit: Seriously, EB reminds of the best games from the "Golden Age" of PC gaming... the ones that you could tell were treated as a work of art, and that the game developers were as passionate about making the game as some of us are about playing them. Those are few and far between now, and I'm glad for you guys (the EB dev team) being here, and to be able to support all of you. Just dropping in this melodramatic edit, as you guys should be commended!

[XSamatan]

Thanks for response, I'll send some € from good old Germany to you.

Good work!

XSamatan

[Matinius Brutus]

I cannot make the donation through paypal. Is there any other way

[bovi]

I believe you can make payments from your regular bank account, by a credit or debit card. Paypal balance is of course easier if you have a paypal account.

[We shall fwee...Wodewick]

Thank you for a brilliant mod, and as a token here is £6.26($10) which is actually more than I paid for RTW in the first place! Ergo, you are better than CA!

[SwissBarbar]

60 Swiss Franks from me, for this great game :bow: :bow: :bow:

[keravnos]

Thank you guys, one and all.

This isn't over as you can see. Anyone who can spare their hard earned money, please donate.

[Barrabas]

Here's 10 USD. Looking forward to EBII.

[oudysseos]

25 USD. Wish I could do more.

[Celtic_Punk]

And to cut a long story short, we are -200$ (short).
If you happen to read the donations' disclaimer, EVERY SINGLE DIME you donate is used to keep the server running.

Thank you for your support, we will always need it.

YOU'RE POCKETING OUR PENNIES!? you yellow bellied ... :clown:

[Palasta]

I know someone asked already this but... is there no other way to donate than with paypal? Just for this one purpose to create a pp-account is... well... if it wasn't for my deep distrust i'd do it. If there is PM me.

[bovi]

You add to the Paypal account of Vercingetorix, who pays our server costs in advance. However, you don't need to actually use an own Paypal account for this.


Why use PayPal?

It's easy to send money and shop online
You can donate without sharing your financial information
Over 50,000 online merchants accept PayPal


Don't have a PayPal account?
Use your credit card or bank account (where available).
Size added for emphasis.

[Hinco]

Donate 10 $. Great job guys!

[Subotan]

Consider this my Christmas present to the EB team. I'd have given more, but the exchange rate from £ to $ is awful.
Merry Christmas EB.
What? What do I want for Christmas? Oh, nothing much, just some book, DVDs the Beta for EB2, annnnnnd some CDs.

[keravnos]

Thank you so much, to those who donated. As an all volunteer group, public donations is all we have to keep the server and our internal forums going.

[MarcAurel]

30 $ from me. Thanks a lot for your wonderful mod!

[heldelance]

Hell, once I get myself a job, I'll donate. This mod REALLY made RTW worth its money.

[-Praetor-]

30 $ from me. Thanks a lot for your wonderful mod!

Thank you MarcAurel. Very much appreciated!:2thumbsup:


Hell, once I get myself a job, I'll donate. This mod REALLY made RTW worth its money.

That's great, that's the spirit!

[Subotan]

How long would say, one dollar keep the servers running for?

[-Praetor-]

One dollar?

100 dollars are needed for the server each month, that's 3,3 dollars each day. Your dollar would keep the server running for little more than 7 hours.

If every person that has downloaded Eb, in it's various versions, would have donated one dollar for his download, we would have $441763 (yes, almost half a million dollars) accumulated in donations for the server. That's enough for keeping the server running for 368 years.

Instead, the amount of the donations today is $4438.98. We are very thankful for the generous souls that have donated without being compelled to do so by a sales contract like when you buy a game. But sadly, they are too few, and what we have manged to accumulate from their generosity is dangerously near the insufficiency line.

[bovi]

That's probably only about 70000-150000 individual users who have played and enjoyed the game, but still there would of course be more if each gave one dollar. Excepting that Paypal takes a fee for each transaction, of course. We're non-profit though, and are currently a tiny bit in the black, which isn't bad.

[Yyrkoon]

There's 10. :2thumbsup: keep up the good work :whip:

[XSamatan]

Good to know!

So lets keep the ammount of money running:smash:

*sendssomemoneytotheserver*

XSamatan

[Marco Ulpio]

$20 from me. Thanks for your great job. I´m enjoying it a lot. Keep on modding.

Alejandro.

[keravnos]

I have to thank each and every one of you for your donations.
We will try to make sure that the next version of EB will be better than this one.
As we don't have any other means of support, we must ask that you keep donating what you can, when you can, if you can.

[DaciaJC]

Gah, donating here would be the most noble use of my money from soccer arbitrating... too bad I'm still a minor, though. :whip: I trust you guys will still be around in two years? I'll be glad to give my share then.

[XSamatan]

From what date are these numbers?


Donations Chart:

Current Hosting Costs: FTP Server and Web Server (September 2005-August 2009) = $5180
Currently donated: $4908


XSamatan

[bovi]

Not quite sure, but it's from august. It does not get updated every day, but usually more often than weekly. Being more than 100$ in the red several times has made us look for cheaper hosting, and we're moving to it shortly.

[option]

Turned out I had two dollars sitting in my Paypal account, so I sent it your way. Will donate more once I find a job!

[XSamatan]

Thanks Bovi.

Then I will re-activate my PayPal-Account.

Is there any Banner or Sig that links to the "donate"-site to make a little advertisement so more peeps do actuall know that there is the urgent of donating some money to help maintaining the beatiful website?

XSamatan

[bovi]

No, there is no fancy flag to hoist. We hope that this small notice attracts the attention we need. Occasionally we bump it, and often that is all it takes to get the current deficit covered. It will still be a good thing for us to get a similar server for less cost though, then we will not need to ask for donations as often.

[keiskander]

Hello im quite new to EB and would like to make a small donation of 10£ thanks for sharing a great mod.

[keravnos]

Once again we must ask you for your "obolos" aka coin in ancient greek.
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/donations.html
Thank you in advance for all you can spare.

[keravnos]

For all those who venture here, here is a small gift from Google books. (I am very thankful for that service and so should you be)

http://books.google.com/books?id=MOTpnfz7ZuYC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=Aristotle's+works+on+Geography&source=bl&ots=NI2H5NZV4a&sig=RK36V1VWsoe9C02P00tdWWowTiw&hl=en&ei=N2bTSqOlAoWy4QaLjfWHAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=&f=false

[Perturabo]

Donation made: 50 Pound Sterling (wish they made conversion from AUD easier to calculate!)

Keep up the great work :whip:

I view this not so much as a donation as thanks... the amount of time I have wasted (ahem.. 'spent') on this mod is easily greater than 10 or so lesser games ever, even including the great BG & BG2 series (and THAT is saying something as I wasted literally years on them).
Actually making the Romans playable (and really enjoyable) was just one of the achievements. After Vanilla I thought I was cursed to be forever killing the Roman insects.

Respect

[johnhughthom]

I try to donate everytime a new EB is released, finally got around to my 1.2 £10, did something change, last few donations had to be dollars.

[-Praetor-]

Thank you very much for your support, dear fellows. Your contributions will help us keep the server running for a while longer.

Thank you!

[Tux]

Thank you all for your donations, it should keep the server up for future realeases of EB in the for of EB2.

Also to be known an EB2 website is in creation.

[vartan]

Also to be known an EB2 website is in creation.
Will this be hosted on the same server?

P.S. Yayyy!!!

[Tux]

Yes.~:) But don't expect it to be released soon since the all the attention goes on the build.

[jabarto]

I've enjoyed EB for years now, and am just now getting around to reinstalling it, so i figured it's time I donated. While it's nothing extravagant (12 USD), EB is a fantastic mod that's brought enjoyment back to a game I thought I was done with, and I thank the developers for their continued effort.

[Duguntz]

i'm a stuident... so I don't have piles of money... and I'm and artist, meaning Ive twice less as the average student... but as soon as I've some spare dollars, it'll go to you guys! Thanks for a great mod, and school of antiquity of history! (well, other way around...)

[Tux]

Thanks you guys, there's no need for piles of money. Every little you can spare to keep the site running and our internal servers is great for us.

[Duguntz]

how do we donate actually?

[Tux]

Paypal, there's a link on(our) the official site.

[NikosMaximilian]

Is there a posibility to donate in cash via Western Union or FedEx?

I'm from a country which its entire banking system fell from the international market nine years ago, so for me, like most of the people here, it's cash only.

[Tux]

Ohh weird that no one answered your question, I don't know why.
But I guess the one responsable to pay for server can be sent that money however I can't remember who it is, so if you still wish to help us with that I'll try and find out.

And the current donation chart:

Current Hosting Costs (August 2009 to June 2010): £555
Currently Donated: £450.00

~:)

[stratigos vasilios]

Here's £15! Thanks for an amazing mod!

[Tux]

Ohh that was quick, thanks for you donation.~:)

[Macilrille]

It humbles you (at least the ever arrogant and haughty me) to see such dedicated fans, so eager yet patient and helpful.

Much obliged and obliging for us.

Thanks everyone who donated ever.

[Bucefalo]

Here have 60€, the least i would pay for a game like this:beam: Thanks for the awesome mod!

[XSamatan]

Glad you like the mod! Thank you for this very kind donation!

[Tux]

A very kind donation indeed, that should keep the team entartained by buying each one of us some beers.
Muchas gracias again.~:)

[sarissa]

just tried a donation but on the paypal website, it said it cant use my bank account??? I dont know if its because im from australia or not... I always knew paypal was racist :)

[FlyingPig]

Here's £40 for a great mod! I've played every single faction now taking up a ridiculous amount of time.
Thanks team!

[XSamatan]

@ Flying Pig:
Thank you, Sir!

@sarissa:
PayPal should work without problems in Australia, if you have further errors with your bank account, get in contact with your bank support, they should help you, it could be that PayPal itself doesn't work with your bank. In any way, thanks for your effort!!

XSamatan

XSamatan

[fredvs]

A little ... donation for now, it will be more as soon as my bank-account allows...
You deserve it and much more, when one brings such an addition to a game like R:TW in stores, it would also have its price and for THAT good work I am more than greatful.

thanx for the great mod !!!
by the way: playing EB on OS X, everything works smooth and fine thanx to Feral and Edwin too

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