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Rokkaku
07-19-2002, 17:33
IM REALLY SORRY IF THIS HAS BEEN POSTED BEFORE....I havent seen it...
does anyone have a golden goal list?
is byzantine golden goal(one of em) defending constantinople?

Aelfred Magna
07-19-2002, 19:13
Here's what I found, Rokkaku. And yes, to answer your question, one of Byzantium's goals is to defend Constantinople - just as one of Turkey's is to take it http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif


ALMOHAD:

Iberian Almohad civilization:
"Despite their conflict for territory, sympathies between Spanish and Berber culture on the peninsula provide shared objectives for advancement. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. No matter who owns the provinces, you must ensure there are:
More than 30 tech-levels in Castile
More than 30 tech-levels in Aragon
More than 30 tech-levels in Granada
More than 30 tech-levels in Cordoba

The Iberian Jihad:
With Muslim civilization far in advance of any European nation, the idea of unifying the Spanish peninsula under the Almohad Caliphate is a noble vision. Points are counted on 1130, 1166, and 1204. You must conquer these provinces . . . "

The Alhambra (Red) Palace:
"A splendid government citadel on the plateau overlooking the city of Granada will mark a permanent claim to dominance over Spain. Points are counted (once) between 1205-1320. You must build: A Citadel in Granada

Homelands:
The heart of your homeland must be defended against incursions. You must retain control of the provinces listed below. (Different for Each Faction, of course) Points are rewarded in 1100, 1125, 1150, 1175, 1205, 1225, 1250, 1275, 1300, 1321, 1350, 1375, 1400, 1425 and 1453.

The Almohad Empire:
The heart of the Almohad Empire must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces:


BYZANTIUM

Preservation of the Empire:
"The golden age of Roman civilization lives on in Byzantium, but pressure from your barbaric neighbours threatens it. Points are counted on 1150, 1260, 1365, and 1453. Preserve the Empire by protecting these provinces: . . . "

Homeland Byzantium:
"The heart of Byzantium must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


DENMARK:

The Kalmar Union:
"The union of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden faces the formidable challenge of achieving superiority over the German Hansa; a demanding economic objective. Points are counted (once) between 1321-1453. You will achieve this when:
Income from Trade exceeds 3000 florins
Income from Trade exceeds 6000 florins
Income from Trade exceeds 12,000 florins
Income from Trade exceeds 24,000 florins

The Kingdom of Denmark:
"The heart of the Kingdom of Denmark must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


ENGLAND:

Plantagenet Claims:
"You are the rightful heir to extensive lands on the continent. Making good this claim is both a noble and profitable objective. Points are counted on 1453. You must control: . . . "

Wool Monopoly:
Control of the wool cloth trade is at the apex of mercantile and territorial objectives held in competition with French and Spanish interests, and is worthy of your immediate efforts. Points are counted on 1250, 1300, 1350, 1400, and 1450. You must: Control more than 2/3rds of the Wool Trade

Subdue Scotland:
"The Auld Alliance continues to defy English Sovereignty over Scotland. The defeat of these unruly highlanders will be a testament to your greatness. Points are counted on 1320. You must conquer: . . ."

The Kingdom of England:
"The heart of England must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . ."


EGYPT:

The Grand Mosque of Al-Azhar
"The greatness of Egypt will be profoundly enhanced by building a Grand Mosque to be the principal seat of Islamic learning. Points are scored (once) between 1095-1204. You must build: A Mosque in Egypt

Jerusalem:
"Jerusalem, the goal of the Prophet's mystic night journey, is a centre of pilgrimage for the Muslim faith. Protecting it from the infidel is therefore the solemn duty of the Sultan of Egypt. Points are counted in 1130, 1166, 1260, and 1365. You must control: . . ."

Cairo:
"The city of Al-Qahirah (Cairo) has transformed in recent years from a royal enclave to an imperial metropolis. As the hub of Egyptian power its stands to become the greatest city in the known world. Points are counted (once) between 1321-1453. You must attain:"More building levels in Egypt than any other province"

The Sultanate of Egypt
"The heart of the Egyptian Sultanate must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


FRANCE:

The Albigensian Crusade:
"Continued Albigensian heresies in the south must be crushed once and for all. You should draw them out into open revolt and then start a Crusade against them. Points are counted (once) between 1205-1250. To protect France you must:
Successfully launch a Crusade to Aquitaine
Successfully launch a Crusade to Toulouse

The Krak des Chevaliers:
"The Knights of St John have called for a mighty Citadel to be built in Tripoli as a bastion of the Crusaders. Points are counted (once) between 1100-1200. You must build: A Citadel in Tripoli"

The Cathedral of Notre Dame:
"Your bishops have conceived of a great Cathedral in Paris, constructed on the ruins of two previous basilicas. This will stand as a permanent statement of France's piety. Points are counted (once) between 1150-1250. You must build: A Cathedral in Ile-de-France"

Sainte-Chapelle:
A sumptious chapel to house blessed fragments, such as barbs from the Crown of Thorns stained with the blood of Jesus, will glorify France. Points are counted (once) between 1230-1260. You must build: A Reliquary in Ile-de-France"

Valois Claims:
"The perfidious Plantagenet Kings of England lay title to lands that are rightfully French. Cast the ignoble curs back to the sea! Points are counted in 1453. You must control: . . . "

The Kingdom of France:
"The heart of France must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


GERMANY (HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE):

The Holy Roman Empire:
"The coronation of Charlemagne in 800AD established the King of Germany as Emperor and protector of Rome. Points are counted on 1150, 1204, and 1250. To reunify and glorify the Empire you must conquer: . . ."

"The Hanseatic League:
"A powerful chain of German coastal cities, with ports and merchants uniting to dominate trade, offers vast wealth to the furtherance of the Empire. Points are counted on 1250, 1300, 1350, 1400, and 1450. You must: Control more than 2/3rds of North Sea Trade"

Drang nach Osten:
"The drive to the east is called for by your knights and people to find new lands and titles, but will be fiercely resisted by the pagan tribes. Points are counted on 1204, 1260, and 1320. You must conquer: . . . "

Hussite Suppression:
"The Hussites (followers of Jan Hus) are warfaring heretics causing turmoil in the East and threatening to move Westward; defeating them will restore religious peace. Points are counted (once) between 1410-1440. You must ensure that: Heresy level in Bohemia is less than 10."

Homeland Germany:
"The heart of Germany must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


ITALY:

The Lombard League:
"With the so-called Holy Roman Emperor regarding Italy as a German province, the city-states of northern Italy must stand fast together to preserve their independence. Points are counted on 1160, 1204, and 1250. You must defend: . . ."

The Florentine Duomo:
"A great domed catehdral in the noble city of Florence will glorify God and Italy. Points are counted on 1420. You must build: A Cathedral in Tuscany"

Noble Mercantilism:
"Venetian, Genoese, and Tuscan merchants are the finest and most cultured in Europe. Their success is the success of Italy. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must: Control more income from Trade than any other faction."

The Italian City-States:
"The heart of Italy must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


POLAND:

Polish Christianization:
"The process of promulgating the Orthodox faith in Poland is also the process of unification, with great political and spiritual benefits for your people. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must ensure that:
Orthodox Faith level in Poland is greater than 50
Orthodox Faith level in Lithuania is greater than 50

Stand Fast:
"Teutonic expansionism from the West threatens all the slavic peoples. Poland is the spine of the defence and must stand firm before the aggressors. Points are counted on 1204 and 1320. You must control: . . . "

The Jagellonian University:
"Recognition of the value the great thinkers of Europe can only increase Poland's glory. Points are counted (once) between 1320-1360. You must build: A University in Poland"

The Kingdom of Poland:
"The heart of Poland must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


RUSSIA:

Survive the Mongol Invasion:
"Batu Khan's Golden Horde have dismembered Empires and murdered cities full of people. They are seemingly unstoppable; yet Russia must somehow stand before them...or be consumed by their ferocious appetite for war. Points are counted on 1250 and 1320. You must defend: . . . "

Defy the Teutons:
"Germanic eastward expansion threatens to eclipse Russian glory. You must push the aggressors back west. Points are counted on 1204, 1260, and 1320. You must control: . . . "

Kremlin:
"Build a fortress in Muscovy"

Moscow:
"Moscow can potentially boast of becoming the finest city in Europe, magnifying your glory. Points are counted (once) between 1321-1453. You must attain: More buildings in Muscovy than any other province"

The Russian Empire:
"The heart of Russia must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


SPAIN:

Iberian Spanish civilization:
"Despite their conflict for territory, sympathies between Spanish and Berber culture on the peninsula provide shared objectives for advancement. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. No matter who owns the provinces, you must ensure there are:
More than 30 tech-levels in Castile
More than 30 tech-levels in Aragon
More than 30 tech-levels in Granada
More than 30 tech-levels in Cordoba

The Spanish Reconquista:
"The Berbers threaten to completely conquer the Spanish peninsula, but with the fantastic heroism of El Cid and others the tide may turn in your favour. Your greatest goal is the reconquest of the peninsula. Points are counted on 1320. You must conquer: . . . "

The Unification of Spain:
"By combining Aragon with Castile and Leon the glorious destiny of Spain can be fulfilled, with Spanish ships ruling the sea and Spanish armies conquering the land. Points are counted (once) between 1321-1453. You must control: . . . "

The Kingdom of Spain:
"The heart of Spain must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


TURKEY:

Iconium:
"Legend says that Konya (Iconium) was the first city to rise after the flood. Backed by the Bozkr Mountains and surrounded by a fertile plain, it is fore-destined to be the hub of Turkey's glory. Points are counted on 1204. By that year you must attain: More buildings in Rum than any other province"

The Turkish Empire:
Your vigorous people seek expansion to the West, where only the enfeebled Byzantine Empire stands between you and greatness. Points are counted (once) between 1321-1453. You must conquer: . . . "

The Fall of Constantinople:
"The Imperial City of Constantinople is the gateway between Asia Minor and Europe. The thunder of your siege-engines destroying the towering Theodosian land wall will ring a golden paean through history. Points are counted on 1453. You must conquer: . . . "

The Sultanate of Turkey:
"The heart of Turkey must be defended against incursions. Points are counted on 1204, 1320, and 1453. You must retain control of these provinces: . . . "


CRUSADES:

"The Pope has guaranteed indulgences for every Knight that fights in Outremer (Asia Minor), defending the pilgrimage trails and claiming the lands holy to our Saviour. To go on Crusade is to march to the glory of God. Points are counted between 1095-1204. You must:"}

Successfully launch a Crusade to Antioch

Successfully launch a Crusade to Edessa

Successfully launch a Crusade to Jerusalem

Successfully launch a Crusade to Tripoli


JIHAD:

"The sacred duty to Jihad may be fulfilled by the heart, the tongue, the hand, and the sword. To wage war physically against enemies of the faith is your last resort, but one that no Sultan worthy of the title will shirk from. Points are counted between 1095-1204. You must defend: . . . "

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
07-19-2002, 19:18
Well thats about raps that up.

Looks like with any faction you have got your work cut out. Can't wait for it now!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif


P.S. 1300 posts MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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No Fear Legend.

[This message has been edited by Toda Nebuchadnezzar (edited 07-19-2002).]

Rokkaku
07-19-2002, 19:21
Thanx a lot magna! I was looking for that list, where didya get it from? so I can have offline referance

Aelfred Magna
07-19-2002, 19:25
Program Files\Total War\ Medieval - Total War (Demo Version)\loc\eng\glorygoals.txt

At least that's what it is on my computer http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif . . . but you get the picture http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Rokkaku
07-19-2002, 19:27
because of the fact I am moving, I dont have my own computer and this one hasnt got a graphics card, so I cant get it, anyway, thanx.

A Nerd
07-19-2002, 21:35
I read through the list briefly so I may have missed this but what good are the points? i realise that to some it can be fun and add a new angle to the game but to these points benefit your kingdom at all? For instance will a crusade put me in good with the pope so I can conquer Italy without him complaining....God forbid...hee heeeeeeeeee!