View Full Version : can u be a queen or are u always a king?
I guess yr always a king but having sum1 like bloody mary would be funny...
vyanvotts
07-17-2002, 23:08
you like playin games as a woman huh?
lol! nono, but there is a female audience out there too...
oh and vyanvotts, how do u know Im not a woman(Im not, but how did u know)
I think a queen might be interesting...granted if the game starts at a specific time then the begining monarchs will be set but if my knowledg of the British monarchy is correct dead kings are often followed by their living queens...this might not apply to all nations but to some...Would it change game play....perhaps only if your turkish holds don't want to serve a woman...then its revolt time...otherwise it might be fun 'my lord, she's running for her worthless life!'
Emp. Conralius
07-17-2002, 23:12
man, Rokkaku, you're churnin those topics out!
hey! Im just thinking up loadsa new stuff, I see usually one new topic a day, Im here to change that and get more n more questions asked...
vyanvotts
07-17-2002, 23:21
Quote Originally posted by Rokkaku:
lol! nono, but there is a female audience out there too...
oh and vyanvotts, how do u know Im not a woman(Im not, but how did u know)[/QUOTE]
i dont know many females whop play total war http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
bruteztrausen
07-17-2002, 23:23
How can you have children...jjejeje.
The prince will be an historical character or will be invented.Per example, If you are king Edward 1 and you have your son Edward 2(who is historic) and Edward 2 dies in battle...If you have other kid will be Edward 2 too?
NagatsukaShumi
07-17-2002, 23:32
Been a Queen would be interesting (In the game I'm not speaking of any other type of queens for those sick individuals who can't stop thinking of sex) because who'd expect a Queen to have a high Dread rating! They could easily do this by simply making it so the Queen can't fight (But then again Joan of Arc was female and fought).
No, a queen should fight, and bloody mary had a high dread rating
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Bohemond
07-17-2002, 23:54
Quote Originally posted by bruteztrausen:
How can you have children...[/QUOTE]
You have to "impregnate" your wife. This can be achieved by a set of techniques called "sex".
Stephen Hummell
07-17-2002, 23:56
LOL!! How old are you Brute?
Catiline
07-18-2002, 01:08
Would be somewhat out of place historically, at least in an English context. England's first female monarch was Mary I, unless you count Lady Jane Grey. there were women of significant influence, like Margaret of Anjou, who was hugely influential as Henry VI's wife, but only because he was such a waste of space.
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Timeo hominem unius libri
so what about bloody mary(mary 1st) I hope u can be her, beause a woman monarch going on the field slaughtering all in her way would be great
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"U dare challenge the drunken ninjas!"
Rokkaku of the Drunken Ninjas
Catiline
07-18-2002, 04:56
Mary was bloody because she martyred a few hundred catholics, not because she was a conqueror. The only significant military event of her reign was the final loss of any English territory in France with the fall of Calais. I don't want to be her...
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Timeo hominem unius libri
Umm, there wouldn't be as much gameplay value as a queen, I mean what would you do while married to the King? get pregnant and raise children?
What would be fun is starting out as a minor noble with some land and then slowly growing more powerfull and win the King's favor, or maybe overthrow the current monarchy http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Stephen Hummell
07-18-2002, 05:03
Queens wouldn't work. Who do you wan't to reign, Edward III or the french queen who sleeps around with everybody in the kingdom. A great soldier and leader or a women who doesn't do shit.
Aelfred Magna
07-18-2002, 05:33
Cat, check again, Mary WAS a catholic, who martyred many many Protestants.
Papewaio
07-18-2002, 05:39
Quote Originally posted by Stephen Hummell:
Queens wouldn't work. Who do you wan't to reign, Edward III or the french queen who sleeps around with everybody in the kingdom. A great soldier and leader or a women who doesn't do shit.[/QUOTE]
Read about ELizabeth the first of England and I think your opinion may change rather rapidly. While you are at that read Macbeth.
And if that doesn't convince you women can be tyrants and terrors show your post to your mum and see who comes off second best.
'No mummy dearest, please don't ban me from the computer until Christmas, MTW is about to be released'
Stephen Hummell
07-18-2002, 06:07
I know Elizabeth I was a great English Ruler. But Warfare is What this game is all about. And I know Elizabeth beat the Spanish Armada, But did she ever get in the heat of battle like other english kings. What did mary ever do militarily, besides slaughter protestants. And I know alot about Elizabeth. Over the summer I'm studying English history. And I was talking more about Edward II wife.
Why would I show that post to my mom I'm not stupid.
[This message has been edited by Stephen Hummell (edited 07-18-2002).]
Papewaio
07-18-2002, 06:34
Queens not being allowed to fight on the battlefield is actually a strategic advantage. As is separates the political apparatus from the military. Sun Tzu would approve me thinks. Maybe it should be a special virtue to allow a warrior-Queen.
Anyhow it is in the strategic decisions that ultimately win the game for you so not having your ruler in battles is not a weakness. You should have your best generals in the field. In STW if my daimyo was a poor general I would park him in the middle of my realm to minimise loyalty problems. Think about King Richard, powerful general but apparently not so good at getting the econonmy going in Britain.
And think how many suitors would be in the field trying to show how great a King they would make to their Queen.
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Victory First, Battle Last
Other than Joan from france I would choose Betty 1st from England.from what I can remeber she had pirates plunder spainish galleons for a cut of the cargo.I think thats where Drake played his part sinking the odd ship as well as sinking the one eyed baldy feller in Betty.(so it was alledged)
I think she was known as the virgin Queen thats why Drake was kept under the carpet.This would make interesting game play due to the virtues and vices part of the game.Adultery being one of the virtues.Betty and bloody mary both locked each other up at some stage I think in the tower of london with Betty eventually lopping Marys head off.
Mary loved loved the pope while Betty wanted a pope on a rope.
Stephen Hummell
07-18-2002, 08:50
Maybe a warrior queen would work.
Catiline
07-18-2002, 14:05
Oops, caught out there. Mary was indeed Catholic, what with being the daughter of Catherine of Aragon who's divorce was the public reason for the schism with Rome.
The 16th century Queens are where the phrase
'monstrous regiment of women' comes from.
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Timeo hominem unius libri
If queens can't fight I think they are worthwhile in the game for merely manipulaters of politics and international relations. And I also think if you want to there should be an option to put some trousers on her and pose the question 'shall I listen to the voices in my head and lead my nation to glorious victory?' The bloody game would have depth beyond I move my piece here, win the battle and repeat the process until the entire bloody map is the color of my bloody country!
Quote Originally posted by Catiline:
Mary was bloody because she martyred a few hundred catholics, not because she was a conqueror. The only significant military event of her reign was the final loss of any English territory in France with the fall of Calais. I don't want to be her...
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I KNOW THAT!!! but I wanna chnage history, aint that the point!
We must remember that this is a game based on history...not historicall correct to every minute deatail because this might be boring and wouldn't sell well...like an interactive encyclopidia...let's say that queens make the game and the pollitical structure is fairly complex...depending on options and difficutly level...if you want you queen to spill blood on the battlefield and or in the court than by all means play your bloody heart out...this way those of us that are turned on by this concept by however means it may rise are moore than satisifed!
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