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Pannonian
07-20-2007, 01:19
Residents fight guest house for servicemen’s relatives (http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/epsomnews/display.var.1558300.0.no_heroes_in_my_backyard_residents_fight_guest_house_for_servicemens_relatives .php)

Neighbours have launched an offensive over proposals to convert a £1.7million property in Ashtead into a guest house for relatives of servicemen wounded in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Battle lines have been drawn since the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Families Association (SSAFA) sought planning consent to adapt the six-bedroom home in Grays Lane.

The charity thought residents would look kindly on its application because of the sacrifices made by soldiers recovering at the nearby Headley Court military rehabilitation centre.
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For 60 years the flagship centre has supported reservists whose injuries require more dedicated care than NHS hospitals can offer.

But that failed to stop about 100 local people objecting to the proposed alterations, which include fitting a wheelchair ramp.

Their main complaint was that increased noise and traffic would "ruin the special character and appeal" of the private lane.

Other criticisms were that the families "would not be welcome" and that their arrival could destroy the "unique charm" of multi-million pound properties.

One letter writer even objected on security grounds, suggesting the hostel could become a terrorist target.

The "nimbyism" stunned the SSAFA, which is waiting for Mole Valley District Council to consider the case on August 1.

Spokesman Athol Hendry said: "We were genuinely taken aback and hugely disappointed by the amount of hostility. It has been proven that having family support is an important part of the healing process, and there is a huge need for a facility such as this.

"The objectors clearly don't understand what it feels like to have your life changed in a second by a bomb blowing up in Basra."

Roger Bennett, planning officer for Ashtead Residents' Association, insisted villagers were sympathetic to the case and supportive of how Headley Court rebuilds lives.

He said: "The actual house is situated in a very narrow lane, and we are just worried about traffic congestion because access is not suitable."

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"the lane is not wide enough to accommodate the extra traffic"
"The Lane width is 4.97 metres in new money. The Hull width of Challenger II is 3.50 metres. Therefore , now work with me on this...."
"Well to be fair that is a bit narrow for two Challys to pass each other!"
"Au contraire Grem. A Chally 2 is 3.5m wide. 2x is 7m. Road + verge is 11m. Bags of room. "Never mind that manicured verge Driver, give it megawelly". So far from being a "very narrow road" , I can safely pole an MBT up it. "

KukriKhan
07-20-2007, 14:00
Looking at Gray's Lane*, Ashtead, on GoogleMaps, it looks wide enough to accomodate minibuses - I note the rather large vehicles already on the road, and in the various driveways, there and on neighboring Ralliwood Road.

The article mentions "discreet, off-road parking for visiting families", so I assume that #36 Gray's Lane is that building near its southern extreme (west side of road), with the large paved area behind the main building.

I don't see the problem(s). Let's hope the planners/deciders don't either. Physical rehab does seem to be helped by supportive family presence. Proletariat might have some data or anecdotal evidence for that.

*51degrees, 18',16.68"N by 0 degrees,17',34.21W

Papewaio
07-20-2007, 14:15
If they don't want to help those who have served the Federal Government to the greatest capacity then I would say freeze all Federal Support including... grants to the schools, permits, mail, the lot. Then again I'm one of these lefties who thinks that if you serve your country, your country should serve you in return. Civic duty is more then paying taxes, its the spirit in which you look after the rest of the community.

:idea2: I'd start routing loud boot camp like drills through the suburb until they changed their fine opinion. And a few urban assault drills over the back yard fences for counter terrorism training... its so the locals will be safer from a potential terrorist attack as the soldiers will know the area well. Also encourage fraternization with the locals, maybe a few kids of the locals knocking boots with the military might open their hearts. :laugh4:

Pannonian
07-20-2007, 14:28
If they don't want to help those who have served the Federal Government to the greatest capacity then I would say freeze all Federal Support including... grants to the schools, permits, mail, the lot. Then again I'm one of these lefties who thinks that if you serve your country, your country should serve you in return. Civic duty is more then paying taxes, its the spirit in which you look after the rest of the community.

:idea2: I'd start routing loud boot camp like drills through the suburb until they changed their fine opinion. And a few urban assault drills over the back yard fences for counter terrorism training... its so the locals will be safer from a potential terrorist attack as the soldiers will know the area well. Also encourage fraternization with the locals, maybe a few kids of the locals knocking boots with the military might open their hearts. :laugh4:
I like the suggested idea of chinooking the families in and out of there instead of using minibuses. After circling through the entire area (multiple times, every time) to find a suitable place to land, of course.

Adrian II
07-20-2007, 14:33
I like the suggested idea of chinooking the families in and out of there (..)Sure, as long as the doors don't fall off...

Husar
07-20-2007, 15:21
Sure, as long as the doors don't fall off...
:laugh4: