Resourses and trade....

[Wong]

dont know if this is already posted but found this info if anyone wants to know.

@["tradable_goods_names"]

@{"Glassware"}
@{"Wood"}
@{"Furs"}
@{"Wine"}
@{"Wool"}
@{"Silk"}
@{"Cotton"}
@{"Linen"}
@{"Wax"}
@{"Honey"}
@{"Salt"}
@{"Hides"}
@{"Butter"}
@{"Pottery"}
@{"Saltfish"}
@{"Spices"}
@{"Gems"}
@{"Sugar"}
@{"Dyes"}
@{"Ivory"}
@{"Oliveoil"}
@{"Grain"}

@["resource_names"]

@{"Copper"}
@{"Gold"}
@{"Silver"}
@{"Iron"}
@{"Forest"}
@{"Salt"}

[Stephen Hummell]

nice job

[Rokkaku]

wait a sec! In real life trade luxuries are useful, but not in the game, do they do a civilization on you and increase your peoples happiness, because then you can get dread for free(if you see my meaning).

[Wong]

this is all this religions i can gather from the demo files.

@{"Pagan"}
@{"Catholic"}
@{"Orthodox"}
@{"Islamic"}
@{"Jewish"}
@{"Heretic"}

quite interesting didnt know about heretic or pagan being in the game

{edit}
Found these as well
// Historical Events

@["Historical_event_titles"]
@{"Deus volt!"}
@{"Domesday Book Completed"}
@{"True Cross Found"}
@{"The Old Man of the Mountains"}
@{"Peasant Crusade"}
@{"Knighthood"}
@{"Sufism"}
@{"The Alexiad"}
@{"Arabic Literature Reaches New Heights"}
@{"First History of Britain Completed"}
@{"Turbulent Priest Slain!"}
@{"Zealous Preacher"}
@{"Dualist Heresy"}
@{"Saint's Relic On Display"}
@{"The Great Fair of Champagne"}
@{"Respected Islamic Scholar"}
@{"The Poet of Courtly Love"}
@{"Healing Visionary"}
@{"The Word of God"}
@{"The Constitutions of Clarendon"}
@{"The Court Poet"}
@{"The Compass Rose"}
@{"Heretics and Vile Perverts"}
@{"Tristan und Isolde"}
@{"Hounding Out Heresy"}
@{"Heretical Sect"}
@{"True Cross Revealed"}
@{"Doctrine of Poverty"}
@{"Niebelungenlied"}
@{"The History of the Empire"}
@{"The Children's Crusade"}
@{"Magna Carta"}
@{"Scholar of the Classics"}
@{"Opus Maius"}
@{"Bonaventure of the Franciscans"}
@{"Respected Islamic Scholar"}
@{"A Most Miraculous Skull"}
@{"Gunpowder!"}
@{"A Most Learned Priest"}
@{"Banking Houses"}
@{"The Mastery of Time"}
@{"Privilegio de la Unión"}
@{"Great Thinker"}
@{"The Everlasting League"}
@{"The Divine Comedy"}
@{"A Traveller Returned!"}
@{"Estates General"}
@{"Years With No Summer"}
@{"Relic of Christ Found"}
@{"First Dominican Accused of Heresy"}
@{"Ockham's Razor"}
@{"Buridan's Ass"}
@{"Rime Sparse"}
@{"The Decameron"}
@{"God's Judgement on the World"}
@{"Religious Hatred"}
@{"Church Hierarchy Vilified"}
@{"The Golden Bull"}
@{"The Garments of Christ"}
@{"Well-travelled Judge"}
@{"The Diwan"}
@{"Mystic Visions"}
@{"Troublemaking Priest"}
@{"The Canterbury Tales"}
@{"Wycliffe's Followers Gather Strength"}
@{"Froissart's Chronicles"}
@{"Plato and Homer Translated"}
@{"Burn the Heretic!"}
@{"The True Cross Found"}
@{"A Long Voyage South"}
@{"The Princely Merchant"}



[This message has been edited by Wong (edited 07-25-2002).]

[Gothmog]

I just wonder where is this heading.

A game company should know its strength and its weakness.

Shogun is excellent because of its battle engine, not the strategic map management. They did a wonderful job NOT make the second part too complicated.

Now if CA wants to combine "civilization" and "Shogun Total War" together, the new game might just lose its focus.

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[chilliwilli]

I think the luxury items are just another way to fill your coffers to the brim and some are worth more money than others. Also some glorious achievements revolve around dominating the trade of certain resources. Even if luxury items make your people happy that wouldn't be so bad and wouldn't make the game more complicated in my opinion.

[Kraellin]

gothmog,

i dont think they've lost their focus; i think they are simply expanding upon it. i welcome more intrigue and so on into the game. the campaign aspect of shogun was pretty limited. i've been looking for a good trade game for a long while and still havent found one. patrician II wasnt quite right. europa II was more diplomatic than trade. i welcome these new aspects, at least in concept. as for bogging down, they have added some automated aspects to keep one from having to micro-manage all the details, so hopefully this will keep it an active game.

besides, if it does bog down too much, just invade something. i'm sure that will liven up the game again ;)

K.


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The only absolute is that there are no absolutes.

[Pachinko]

What the hell is that... "Niebelungenlied"? I looks like German. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/confused.gif I used that Babelfish.com. There's nothin there...

P.

[Pachinko]

Duhh.. I got it now. It is a Medieval Epics: Beowulf, The Song Of Roland.

P.

[Emp. Conralius]

Nibelungenlied is the national epic of German (very good book). Song of Roland is the epic of France...Beowulf i a crazy piece of literature.

[Pachinko]

Thanks Emp.
Tell me about that Nibelungenlied story.
And that Roland story. Please.

That Beowulf is a weird story!! As i can remember....I was a Highschool.....It was a Looooong time ago.

P.

[Wavesword]

I like this list very much, wonder how much they'll diverge from historical context and locality?

[czaralex]

Quote Originally posted by Kraellin:
gothmog,

i dont think they've lost their focus; i think they are simply expanding upon it. i welcome more intrigue and so on into the game. the campaign aspect of shogun was pretty limited. i've been looking for a good trade game for a long while and still havent found one. patrician II wasnt quite right. europa II was more diplomatic than trade. i welcome these new aspects, at least in concept. as for bogging down, they have added some automated aspects to keep one from having to micro-manage all the details, so hopefully this will keep it an active game.

besides, if it does bog down too much, just invade something. i'm sure that will liven up the game again http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

K.


[/QUOTE]

I personally recomend Trade Empires for you, IMO that is the best trading game of all time!

[Yager]

This is the sort of problem that hits every other game out there. When, because something changes, people cry bloody murder that the game is going to be awful and nothing like the predecessor. Is that a bad thing? Look at all the clones out there. Red Alert, Red Alert 2.. I'm still looking for the difference there. Age of Empires, Age of Kings.. graphics? Yes.. anything else?

A game should either be improved greatly or changed greatly so that we have variety. If they ruin it for you by adding content.. well.. most sequels to the cookie cutter games would please you. For one, I am glad that they are changing the game. The battlefield part of the game is already stellar. All they did was improve on the original with better intelligence for troops, better morale factors, and many other things.

One of the things that made Shogun unique was the fact that it not only had the RTS but it also had some TBS.