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What exactly did you mean with "I believe I was going after Khaan"?
Humour?
And yes I have other suspects: Orb
but too little is happening in this game to have proper suspects.
seireikhaan
08-12-2007, 19:18
Vote: Stig. For not listening to reason, when I've basically come as close as humanly possible to proving my innocence.
Tally:
Stig 2(Khaan, Andres)
GH 1(Strawberry)
Killfr3nzy 1(GH)
Orb 1(Shlin)
Abstain 1(Beefy)
Do I really need to give them again?
Seeing as you've given one reason, and not denied the counter-arguments properly, I'd say yes. You seem to be drawing too much attention to be mafia, so I'll pass you by for the moment.
The General seems to have been making a lot of very neutral posts. Furthermore, Shlin has been very quiet and come up with a post not providing a real explanation for a vote.
and not denied the counter-arguments properly
What counterarguments?
Reasons to vote Khaan:
1. He jumps in and goes after Sarathos because of noob-tactics. Killing Sasaki is not a noobie thing to do.
2. Khaan claims he ain't mafia due to the fact he was at the restaurant. However he might have gone to the restaurant to kill someone there, so that's a bad argument.
3. For bandwagoning, what did you do to proof your innocence?
GeneralHankerchief
08-12-2007, 20:03
The General seems to have been making a lot of very neutral posts.
Neutral? I wanna kill lurkers and I still think Andres is suspicious.
seireikhaan
08-12-2007, 20:04
What counterarguments?
Reasons to vote Khaan:
1. He jumps in and goes after Sarathos because of noob-tactics. Killing Sasaki is not a noobie thing to do.
2. Khaan claims he ain't mafia due to the fact he was at the restaurant. However he might have gone to the restaurant to kill someone there, so that's a bad argument.
3. For bandwagoning, what did you do to proof your innocence?
Alright, reasons to not vote Khaan:
1. Stig's only argument against me was my first vote. Tell me Stig, should I have done nothing instead, and just lurked? I voted for who I thought might have tried that kill. With no other evidence to go on, what else was I supposed to take into account?
2. Yes, I was at the restaurant. Tell me, how plausible does this scenario sound? Night one: a mafia goes looking for personX in the restaurant. Doesn't see them there, so decides he'll go sit down with Andres and have a snack. Why wouldn't I have just killed Andres right there instead? Makes no sense to me. Same night 2, only w/ Orb.
3. Bandwagoning? That's a weak argument, when its only 2 votes. Stop being such a freakin' :baby: when people decide to vote for you and come up with a real argument.
I would also like Stig to prove why he should not be voted out this round. I notice that he has not done anything to prove why HE'S innocent, only trying to slander other people to get them lynched.
Neutral? I wanna kill lurkers and I still think Andres is suspicious.
Why is that?
what else was I supposed to take into account?
The fact that it ain't a tactic used by "noobs" ... anymore
With the activiness nowadays it's better to kill all the active players early on.
Why wouldn't I have just killed Andres right there instead?
Because you said you would kill GH instead?
Bandwagoning? That's a weak argument, when its only 2 votes. Stop being such a freakin' when people decide to vote for you and come up with a real argument.
Actually, I voted you first
GeneralHankerchief
08-12-2007, 20:12
Why is that?
Argument from Day 2.
seireikhaan
08-12-2007, 20:26
Hmm, I love how Stig just decides to ignore half of my pointst to look at other ones. You'll make a great politician someday, Stig. Once again, I would like to ask you WHY SHOULD WE TRUST YOU? You do nothing to confirm your own innocence, you only try to get others lynched. Additionally, you ignore the fact that you made an ultra weak bandwagon accusation, and try to shift attention elsewhere to cover it up. Classic politician behavior...
Anyways, as for the restaurant thing, I think that a mafiosi wouldn't care too muchif he had to substitute someone else for a kill. It doesn't seem very logical to me for their attitude to be like, "I'll only kill him tonight, NO ONE else will do."
And you know what, Stig, maybe you're right regarding 'noob tactics' and such. Maybe I'm wrong. So you're going to lynch me for not keeping up on current trends? I went with my gut instinct, and if that was wrong, well, that's kinda why I didn't stick with my first vote for the whole round. You seem awfully hell bent on lynching someone for a vote that never even lasted for a whole round. Personally, I see that as scummy, in additon to the fact that you ignore half of my points just to make yours instead, just like a good ol' politician. And you know what, Stig? I really hate good ol' politicians.
WHY SHOULD WE TRUST YOU?
Because I know I'm innocent and you have no idea about my role?
just like a good ol' politician.
It's the way to win arguments, you might lynch me, that does not mean I'm wrong tho
Im sorry that I didnt send the Pms, now I should be doing that.
My favourite TV show is Dancing with the Stars?
How dare you Caius :furious3:
Warmaster Horus
08-12-2007, 23:09
I take it you stayed at home and watched it?
I take it you stayed at home and watched it?
I somehow hope not actually, I hoped I could simply stay in the hospital, but I'll be there tomorrow again.
A question to Caius tho: I never send in PMs at night before, and never got a report. Did you forget them, or is it because Dancing with the stars is only on telly once a week :laugh4:
Seamus Fermanagh
08-12-2007, 23:16
Stig,
The tone of your responses under pressure here seems a bit..."off."
'khaan, on the other hand, has a tone that sounds a little too gleeful at your discomfort.
I shall ponder this.
A question to Caius tho: I never send in PMs at night before, and never got a report. Did you forget them, or is it because Dancing with the stars is only on telly once a week
You lazy Stig :whip:
Everyone who dont send Pms, I take them to not do anything(aka stay in home)
How dare you Caius
I'm God. Well, at least in this game.:bounce:
Announcement!
Mayor Silvester Stallone is very angry. He reported to the local police that the 2 people who have most votes have to die executed.
So, the 2 people with more votes will have the death assured.
seireikhaan
08-12-2007, 23:29
Uh, Caius, what's with that quote?
seireikhaan
08-12-2007, 23:30
Ah, ok, that explains it.
Twilightblade
08-12-2007, 23:44
Is the double death today only or from now on?
Is the double death today only or from now on?
Its only now.
pevergreen
08-13-2007, 01:11
yay double lynch.
So far it seems to be Orb/Stig/GH and Khaan to lynch.
I am very scared of Andres however. Hosting my game let me see how well he can play.
Still unsure of lynch target.
woad&fangs
08-13-2007, 02:26
Okay, we've already proven GK's innocence. He was at the restaurant night one. On night one Mafia1 killed Sasaki, Mafia2 was on first avenue. So unless Sasaki was at the restaurant on night one then GK is innocent.
RoadKill
08-13-2007, 05:52
Has anyone ever thought that Andreas and GK are both the mafia? They can both be at the restuarnt at the same time. But I don't know about that becuase I was at the restuarnt as well, and they both did not see me.
Why are we not lynching Stig?
Why are we not lynching Stig?
Caius just confirmed me innocent:
You lazy Stig
Everyone who dont send Pms, I take them to not do anything(aka stay in home)
Everyone who dont send Pms, I take them to not do anything(aka stay in home)
The mafia did not send the Pms...
The mafia did not send the Pms...
KILL THE LURKERS!!!!
If the mafia did not send in orders... the people at the Restaurant, aka me, WH, Ichigo and Seamus must be innocent :beam:
So this narrows the list of suspects to:
Stig
Andres
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
GeneralHankerchief
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Beefy182
Orb
GeneralHankerchief
08-13-2007, 20:20
Caius, you're giving out way too much information, and I thank you for it. :grin:
Anyway, that's been making my point. Stig is right, the mafia are lazy, so kill the lurkers already!
Caius just confirmed me innocent:
He did? Because here, he called you lazy:
You lazy Stig
Lazy Stig = Stig didn't send in his pm's = Stig is mafia ?
Unvote, vote: Twilightblade
one of our best lurkers
Seamus Fermanagh
08-13-2007, 20:41
I still don't get how going to a bistro proclaims innocence. Not that I doubt my own, of course.....:devilish:
Could somebody explain this location thing to me -- I guess I'm being dense.
People who went to eat must have been innocent, cos Inca Man said that the Mafia didnt send in orders, so therefore the people who sent in orders to to to eat, must have not been mafia. :yes:
More importantly, after I looked at the map, I CANT SEE THE RESTAURANT ANYWHERE! :dizzy2: Is it the bar? Or is it invisible...
Could somebody explain this location thing to me -- I guess I'm being dense.
what do you want to know?
After looking at the PM's, I saw the mafia Pm's. Im very sorry for the error made there.
And I will have to close my mouth.
Seamus Fermanagh
08-14-2007, 00:14
what do you want to know?
After looking at the PM's, I saw the mafia Pm's. Im very sorry for the error made there.
And I will have to close my mouth.
Absolutely.
You wouldn't want to be mod-killed....:dizzy:
:devilish:
I think someone would come with a tally to make the double lynch.
GeneralHankerchief
08-14-2007, 00:24
...or you could make it yourself. Being the host and all. :inquisitive:
Stig 2(Khaan, Andres)
GH 1(Ichigo)
Killfr3nzy 1(GH)
Orb 1(Shlin)
Abstain 1(Beefy)
TwlightBlade 1(Stig)
Stig is going to be lynched, who will be the other?
Beefy187
08-14-2007, 00:33
no one was at the park tonight
i saw twilight at the park night 2
dont think it does but if that helps..
GeneralHankerchief
08-14-2007, 00:39
IMHO, Stig's been the most on the ball this far in the game and shouldn't be lynched.
If he's innocent, I've been agreeing with him a lot and will thus continue to agree with him.
If he's guilty, the chances of him voting for a fellow mafioso are low considering the activity and the early stage of the game.
Therefore,
Unvote: Killfr3nzy
Vote: Twilightblade
Him being at the park on Night 2 tells us nothing. There were no kills that night.
Beefy187
08-14-2007, 01:07
we couldve leaved twilight for WoG
The Mayor and everyone were in the plaza. The Mayor had hope that the mafiosos could be killed and this kind of nightmare should finish as soon as possible.
So, Stig and Twilightblade have to die.
They need to suffer, the Mayor started to say. If we do the right thing, our bloodbath should finish now. Now, kill the selected to die. Kill them fast, we have a life to do.
Both were selected to die being shot to the death. First Stig died, he was shot in the head. One shot was sufficient, since he tried to say some words, but he fell to the floor. And died in the act. Twilightblade was shot in the heart, he started to lose blood and die.
Thats all for today, the Major concluded.
Alive:
shlin28
Andres
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
GeneralHankerchief
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Seamus Fermanagh
CountArach
Beefy182
Orb
Lynched:
woad&fangs
Stig
TwilightBlade
Killed:
Sasaki Kojiro
Suicided:
RoadKill
Send the night PM's.
Twilightblade
08-14-2007, 02:16
Pity. I envy you stig headsots rule
If he's innocent
Which he is ~D
Twilightblade
08-14-2007, 07:40
They need to suffer,
and
Kill them fast,
I don't see how the two go together, how can one suffer and be killed quickly?
Warmaster Horus
08-14-2007, 09:47
Have you ever been hanged? Or burned to death? Or eaten to death by death sharks equiped with lasers?
Hanging is perhaps quick, unless you try to resist slightly. Then you choke to death. It's relatively quick, and full of suffering.
Burnt to death can be quick, unless there's a problem with the proceedings, in which case the burnt person has time to agonize.
The sharks, well, it's pretty much the same thing. It can be messy. And of course, it's a world of hurt for the person subjected to them.
Of course, this doesn't have much to do with the method used. I'm just proposing for future lynches.
TB, they had to suffer soon :devil:
Anyway, Silvester Stallone doesnt know how to speak.
Sarathos
08-15-2007, 04:15
Would that be Stallone or the scripter.....?:beam:
Im sorry for the delay. I just gave the players more time.
The fear is growing in the city. Everyone is trusting in themselves, because they know the mafia attack is inminnent.
This seems to be a normal day again in Chicago.
Note:This game is not advancing as i wanted to. The mafia will have 3 kills next night!
Alive:
shlin28
Andres
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
GeneralHankerchief
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Seamus Fermanagh
CountArach
Beefy182
Orb
Lynched:
woad&fangs
Stig
TwilightBlade
Killed:
Sasaki Kojiro
Suicided:
RoadKill
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 02:33
Withholding on my vote until I receive my reply PM.
Seamus Fermanagh
08-16-2007, 02:53
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
...for sheer cheek.
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 03:15
A quick search of your posts in this thread determines that your posting behavior is off... way off.
As a matter of fact it was your lack of analysis in the first place that made me go searching. I remember two prior Mafia games where this was the case: Mafia V and Cosa Nuova II. Ring a bell?
Vote: Seamus
It was an honest post. But now I don't need the information. You've just been too far off for the entire game now.
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
...for sheer cheek.
Reason?
Beefy187
08-16-2007, 06:02
i say we all go to 2 location so we can find out the mafia
pevergreen
08-16-2007, 08:11
:laugh4:
I agree with GH, I would expect multiple in-depth posts by now seamus.
Vote: Seamus
seireikhaan
08-16-2007, 08:15
Well, just to throw my opinion in the mix, I don't think Seamus is mafia. Right now, he's not even making an attempt to analyze. I don't know about Mafia V, but in CNII, he at least made posts that looked like some effort were put into them. I think Seamus is likely just not taking this game very seriously, for whatever reason. Not quite sure who I'll vote for yet.
Well, just to throw my opinion in the mix, I don't think Seamus is mafia. Right now, he's not even making an attempt to analyze. I don't know about Mafia V, but in CNII, he at least made posts that looked like some effort were put into them. I think Seamus is likely just not taking this game very seriously, for whatever reason. Not quite sure who I'll vote for yet.
Yeah, but in CNII he eventually got lynched, so he knows that that tactic doesn't work...
Seamus can't be mafia... as Caius said the previous day, the mafia didnt send in orders, therefore the 5 people at the restaurant who must have sent in orders, are innocent: aka me, seamus, Ichigo, Orb and WH.
Beefy187
08-16-2007, 11:03
If shlins info is correct, following people could be Mafia
Andres
greaterkhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Beefy187 (187 not 182!!) AKA just beefy
Orb
Night 1 i was jailed so I guess thats enough to prove my innocence if you want ill be jailed again tonight just so you dont lynch me
i really dont know who to vote for but i rekon GK and sarathos are innocent.
Vote: Abstain
Why do you think Sarathos is innocent? He doesnt have any posts here I think, but he had been active. So...
Vote Sarathos
If shlins info is correct, following people could be Mafia
Andres
greaterkhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Beefy187 (187 not 182!!) AKA just beefy
Orb
Night 1 i was jailed so I guess thats enough to prove my innocence if you want ill be jailed again tonight just so you dont lynch me
How does being jailed proves your innocence?
@GH: did you get your reply pm by now? If so, does it confirm your suspicions about Seamus?
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 15:09
@GH: did you get your reply pm by now? If so, does it confirm your suspicions about Seamus?
No, I did not.
Nobody got reply PMs I think
Seamus Fermanagh
08-16-2007, 16:23
A quick search of your posts in this thread determines that your posting behavior is off... way off.
As a matter of fact it was your lack of analysis in the first place that made me go searching. I remember two prior Mafia games where this was the case: Mafia V and Cosa Nuova II. Ring a bell?
Vote: Seamus
It was an honest post. But now I don't need the information. You've just been too far off for the entire game now.
My posting style in this one has indeed been "off." Quite correct. I have, also, been baiting you with my posts and PM to you earlier.
My results thus far:
Night One =
Investigated GeneralHankerchief (pre-start found him "around" a little more than sometimes usual), observed him murdering Sasaki Kojiro. Went to the park following and observed Count Arach.
Partner investigated Sasaki Kojiro, finding him innocent (bit of a waste that).
Night Two =
Investigated Greaterkhaan (voted with GH that day), observed him eating at restaraunt. Went to pub after for a pint.
Partner investigated Andres, finding him asleep at home.
Night Three =
Investigated CountArach (too quiet), observed him at home playing MTW2. Went to restaraunt afterwards and observed Ichigo, Orb, Shlin,, & Horus gnoshing.
Partner investigated Andres, who went to the bar.
Night Four:
Investigated Orb -- no results PM'd as yet.
Note: Compliments GH on targeting Sasaki on N1. Since he's a high likelihood investigation target, you end up with a wasted investigation and a dead Sasaki (who did indeed minimize his play to follow) and at least the beginnings of a "maybe a new player did this" lynch possibility -- good play all around. I just got lucky here -- probably channelling Kage' or something. :devilish:
Needless to say, my vote stands -- and not just for cheek.
I'll report out N4 when its sent to me.
Oh, and Garci', I assume that with one of their number dead, you'll need to reduce the three kills -- sorry about that.
Tally:
Abstain = 1 (Beefy)
General H = 1 (Seamus)
Sarathos = 1 (Shlin)
Seamus = 2 (General H, pever')
Always knew you were innocent :beam:
Unvote, Vote: GH
And why did you investigate Orb last night? He must be innocent if he was in the restaurant on night 3... I've explained this way too many times :dizzy2:
Vote : GeneralHankerchief
Seamus Fermanagh
08-16-2007, 17:16
Always knew you were innocent :beam:
Unvote, Vote: GH
And why did you investigate Orb last night? He must be innocent if he was in the restaurant on night 3... I've explained this way too many times :dizzy2:
You're making an assumption that Garci' will not have fabricated that reference. You are LIKELY correct, but I'm never quite so certain in these games. I thought I'd check one as a "double check" of your theory.
A little caution is warranted, as the mafia has lain low for much of the game hoping that we'd lynch ourselves without risk to them. A sophisticated use of Garci''s system -- so a few prudent double checks can't hurt.
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 17:38
Nice going, Seamus. :applause: Hoping for a little coup-de-grace, are we?
However, I'm afraid your little last-ditch effort is doomed to fail. Convenient how after significant pressure he "reveals." And your story still doesn't jive, by the way. In Cosa Nuova I, when you were the Detective you still posted extremely mathematically. Your behavior here is more of a match to your Mafia behavior than that of Detective, sorry.
So, hoping to totally eliminate any hope of the town's chances this round? Think about it guys. Caius says that the mafia get three kills next round. He first attacks me, hoping for a lynch. Then, after it doesn't look like things are going to go his way, he throws in this little fake job as back-up. I bet you anything that the three kills tonight are going to be the three most active players in the game - minus Seamus of course.
Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I spent the first two nights at home, sleeping, and then the next two nights at the restaurant. For some reason Caius said I didn't see anyone at the restaurant but what are you going to do.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-16-2007, 17:56
GH is obviously guilty.
Avenge me...
Sasaki Kojiro
08-16-2007, 18:32
:shame: I thought you valued tradition?
Ichigo has not been permitted his traditional opening.
Though I admit that kill' was asking for it.:devilish:
Wait what does the 2nd line mean? The sasaki kill hadn't been posted yet, how did you know ichigo would be denied his traditional opening?
seireikhaan
08-16-2007, 18:38
Vote: GH
Nice going, Seamus. :applause: Hoping for a little coup-de-grace, are we?
However, I'm afraid your little last-ditch effort is doomed to fail. Convenient how after significant pressure he "reveals." And your story still doesn't jive, by the way. In Cosa Nuova I, when you were the Detective you still posted extremely mathematically. Your behavior here is more of a match to your Mafia behavior than that of Detective, sorry.
So, hoping to totally eliminate any hope of the town's chances this round? Think about it guys. Caius says that the mafia get three kills next round. He first attacks me, hoping for a lynch. Then, after it doesn't look like things are going to go his way, he throws in this little fake job as back-up. I bet you anything that the three kills tonight are going to be the three most active players in the game - minus Seamus of course.
Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I spent the first two nights at home, sleeping, and then the next two nights at the restaurant. For some reason Caius said I didn't see anyone at the restaurant but what are you going to do.
Well, the night 2 and night 3 results on me are 100 % correct. I never told anybody what I was going to do at night...
On the other hand, why did I get investigated twice?:inquisitive:
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 19:14
Because he hastily wrote the "reveal."
Vote:GH bandwagon bandwagon bandwagon.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-16-2007, 19:40
Caius reveals role upon death, so if Seamus must be telling the truth, else he would know he would be lynched as soon as GH turned up innocent.
Hmmm, I never posted in the thread what I did on night 2 and 3, yet Seamus has it correct in his reveal.
It must be genuine.
C'mon townies, let's lynch that dirty mafioso GeneralHankerchief.
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 20:04
Did you think maybe that Seamus put his partner on "watch duty" while he tried to kill?
With zero kills on all the nights but one, there was plenty that the mafiosi could have been doing. Come on, people. At least think before you blindly lynch me.
Did you think maybe that Seamus put his partner on "watch duty" while he tried to kill?
With zero kills on all the nights but one, there was plenty that the mafiosi could have been doing. Come on, people. At least think before you blindly lynch me.
1) Yeah, but if Seamus was mafia, he or his partner must have seen me in order to know where I was, right?
2) That they saw me in the bar on night 3, might be a coincidence, the mafia looking around to see who's there in order to prepare the "fake reveal", but on night 2, I was at home. If Seamus would be mafia, this means he or his partner came to my house at night 2. If the mafia came to my house, it can only mean one thing: they came to kill me. I didn't get killed that night...
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 21:13
Or it could have been a lucky guess.
Seamus Fermanagh
08-16-2007, 21:19
General: You have style sir!
Andres has the right of it, however. As more information becomes available, it will be clear to an ever-increasing majority that detectives are at work and that this is the source of my information. I think it is clear that enough of this burg's residents are getting confirmation in my words.
However, if it takes my death to confirm this, so be it. I have yet to survive one of these shindigs as anything less than a god, but a 1 for 1 trade is acceptable to me -- as I am sure it would be to you, oh "innocent" townie. :wiseguy:
Or, in simpler terms, DIE MAFIOSO DIE!!!!
I confess, I am mafia.
Fixed it for ya :wink:
GeneralHankerchief
08-16-2007, 21:38
but a 1 for 1 trade is acceptable to me -- as I am sure it would be to you, oh "innocent" townie.
In that case, surely you have no qualms about taking the lynch before I do.
In that case, surely you have no qualms about taking the lynch before I do.
Nah, let your buddy kill him. If you still have a buddy that is...
Seamus Fermanagh
08-16-2007, 21:51
In that case, surely you have no qualms about taking the lynch before I do.
None. If the town wishes to go that route. My survival is unlikely in any event.
After all, I only ID'd one mafioso. The other will likely do for me. I'll PM Andre as to where I'll be each night so he can watch who comes to kill me -- should be fun.
In that case, surely you have no qualms about taking the lynch before I do.
Scummy.
Sarathos
08-16-2007, 23:48
But if GH is mafia like everyone is suggesting, why the hell has there been no kills? Unless he hasnt sent in any orders which I find very doubtful. OR he is just not mafia. Sorry guys
Seamus Fermanagh
08-17-2007, 00:44
But if GH is mafia like everyone is suggesting, why the hell has there been no kills? Unless he hasnt sent in any orders which I find very doubtful. OR he is just not mafia. Sorry guys
Actually, I'd have been suspecting him by now without my lucky first night's work -- for precisely the reason you name.
GH is a damn fine game player -- and very much subtle enough to take a smallish "large" game and let the town kill one another while chasing their own tails -- while making sure he appeared innocent. This going places thing is an interesting twist.
GeneralHankerchief
08-17-2007, 23:02
This is dragging. Lynch me already.
This is dragging. Lynch me already.
Your wishes are orders.
STAND BY FOR EXECUTION!
Im very sorry about this long time without me. I didnt send any PM. My very bad. But now, the number of deaths is reduced to 1. I will send 1 PM's with the action.
Everyone, start to send PM's for night.
The local policeman started:
Mayor, we are very surprised. And happy...
The mayor, was expecting that the town should do a good work. And that expectation was true.
...Because it seems one of the detectives who is in this city catch one of the Padrino henchman. As he claimed, he saw Sasaki Kojiro being killed by GeneralHankerchief, one of the habitants on this city. Everyone is waiting in the local plaza to execute him, the policeman said.
Good news indeed, that Padrino will have the revenge. When this is over, make sure that he dies! The Mayor said, very angry.
Yes, the CIA is searching for him, dont worry. Now, We have to execute GeneralHankerchief.
When this conversation was going on, in the local plaza, something wrong went. The very own citizens, started to attack GeneralHankerchief to death! When the police came into the place, the villagers killed GH, as they called him.
In another news, the local Restaurant was closed for reforms. In all this time, the owners planned to do it more bigger. So, it will be closed. You get it, dont you?
Alive:
shlin28
Andres
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Seamus Fermanagh
CountArach
Beefy182
Orb
Lynched:
woad&fangs
Stig
TwilightBlade
GeneralHankerchief
Killed:
Sasaki Kojiro
Suicided:
RoadKill
Warmaster Horus
08-18-2007, 08:55
Well, there's still the bar, at least.
Drink ourselves unconscious
Warmaster Horus
08-18-2007, 17:20
I actually thought about drinking coffee, and not getting drunk.
Night came again. Everyone is happy now. Some people is not happy, they lost some good friends in the city. Thats a reason to not be happy.
The Restaurant was closed. Some people went to the bar. Seamus Fermanagh
did also. He was talking with the bar owner, Seamus always had an interest in working in that bar. But everyone knew he was a CIA agent, including the remaining mafia man.
Seamus went to the bathroom. He noticed a man wearing a black suit. He took a gun, Seamus noticed it, but he was late, the man shoot. This man used a gun with a silenciator, no one noticed it.
10 minutes after this, the bar owner tried to find Seamus. But he didn't leave the bar, but he wasn't there! He went to the bathroom, and he yielded.
SEAMUS! SEAMUS!
Everyone stoped talking, and went to the bathroom. The man with the black suit run away, kicking the bar owner and running away. In the bathroom, with Seamus's blood, there was an inscription. It said:
Run away of Chicago, the Padrino will have revenge!
Now, this man is in the streets. Alive, yet. This Padrino had made too much problems for this peacefull city. Now, lynch the right guy, and end this massacre!
Alive:
shlin28
Andres
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Beefy182
Orb
Lynched:
woad&fangs
Stig
TwilightBlade
GeneralHankerchief
Killed:
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
Suicided:
RoadKill
GeneralHankerchief
08-19-2007, 05:06
Clearly Seamus planned this death with his partner to help give credit to his side and to further besmirch my good name. Clearly.
Seamus Fermanagh
08-19-2007, 05:49
Well, that reveal went more or less classicly. Kudos to the mafia on getting us to lynch the doctor first -- it made this result fairly predictable. A classic silencer double-tap -- a compliment in itself.
Sarathos
08-19-2007, 09:10
Shooting a guy in the bathroom is pretty scummy. I mean, what is he going to defend himself with........???
Seamus, did you get any results on Orb? And who did you investigate last night?
List of suspects:
Andres
greaterkhaan
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Beefy182
So people vote for someone on this list!
But if GH is mafia like everyone is suggesting, why the hell has there been no kills? Unless he hasnt sent in any orders which I find very doubtful. OR he is just not mafia. Sorry guys
This post is enough for me.
Vote : Sarathos
Remember guys that the mafia have to say they need to go somewhere and kill someone there.
Next to that this might be a simple new tactic.
It is strange that Andres is still alive at this part of the game.
But Seamus sort of proved Andres's innocence when he investigated him.
Beefy meanwhile had been "abstaining" a lot trying to sound neutral, so vote: Beefy
Sasaki Kojiro
08-19-2007, 17:03
There are two things the mafia can hope to accomplish when faced with a detective reveal. The first is to discredit the detective and get him lynched. They must have realized after his reveal that this was not a possibility.
The second is for the partner of the accused mafioso to convince the town that he's innocent by strongly attacking his compatriot. Now look at this:
1) Andres indicates that he suspects Seamus, in post 311 he disagrees with greaterkhaan who thinks seamus is innocent:
Yeah, but in CNII he eventually got lynched, so he knows that that tactic doesn't work...
2) After the detective reveal he attacks GH strongly, with many posts, providing evidence and urging the town to "lynch that dirty mafioso". Note that he initial post is just a vote for GH, nothing more. It looks like he decided he had to go against GH, voted him, and thought up stuff to say to make himself look good after.
3) He is now attacking sarathos for his defence of GH, when in reality mafia would be too scared to defend their partner.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-19-2007, 17:04
I believe the investigations came on nights when there were a lack of kills?
But Seamus sort of proved Andres's innocence when he investigated him.
If Seamus is indeed detective yes
Next to that it says Andres was at home, while there were no kills.
Seamus Fermanagh
08-19-2007, 20:09
Quite correct.
Some of the investigations were fairly conclusive -- specifying an activity that seemed thoroughly innocent. Others merely suggested an absence of anything wrong. This is the reason I was fairly thorough in the specifics related to me during an investigation.
Absent any kills, I cannot be certain that a non-result indicates innocence and nor could my partner. To be fair to Andres, it does not conclusively prove guilt either.
Andres, you should respond specifically to Sasaki's analysis post (2 up from this).
The mafia may be down to one member -- two were advertised at start -- so get involved folks. Lurking would be a little too "convenient" at this point in the story.
Of course, feel free to ignore the comments of the innocent dead.
GeneralHankerchief
08-19-2007, 20:17
Yes, feel free to ignore my comments.
Seamus Fermanagh
08-19-2007, 20:24
Yes, feel free to ignore my comments.
Sorry, could you remind me which of us was lynched for his comments/actions and which was murdered? Maybe I missed that bit.....:smartass2:
GeneralHankerchief
08-19-2007, 20:58
It could have been a vigilante kill.
There are two things the mafia can hope to accomplish when faced with a detective reveal. The first is to discredit the detective and get him lynched. They must have realized after his reveal that this was not a possibility.
The second is for the partner of the accused mafioso to convince the town that he's innocent by strongly attacking his compatriot. Now look at this:
1) Andres indicates that he suspects Seamus, in post 311 he disagrees with greaterkhaan who thinks seamus is innocent
Well, Seamus had put suspicion on GH in a rather cryptic way, suggesting he had a role and urging him to reveal, preferably in private. I thought that was scummy. Note that it was the beginning of the game. I tried to generate discussion. Sides, if I would have been mafia, I would have understood what Seamus was saying and if lynching wouldn't have worked, I would have killed him, wouldn't I?
2) After the detective reveal he attacks GH strongly, with many posts, providing evidence and urging the town to "lynch that dirty mafioso". Note that he initial post is just a vote for GH, nothing more. It looks like he decided he had to go against GH, voted him, and thought up stuff to say to make himself look good after.
My first concern was to confirm Seamus' story. GH was trying to convince the town that the reveal was fake. Note that my comments were the only real confirmation of Seamus' reveal.
3) He is now attacking sarathos for his defence of GH, when in reality mafia would be too scared to defend their partner.
WIFOM.
Vote:Andres :evil: Sure left the bar in a hurry Andres.
seireikhaan
08-19-2007, 21:44
Vote: Shlin28. Tell me, why should we trust you, Shlin? Why should we be following your list? Personally, I find it a tad suspicious that night one, there is one kill, when you were hauled off to jail. And then there were no kills the next night, when you were still in jail.
Vote: Shlin28. Tell me, why should we trust you, Shlin? Why should we be following your list? Personally, I find it a tad suspicious that night one, there is one kill, when you were hauled off to jail. And then there were no kills the next night, when you were still in jail.
Wasn't it Beefy who was in jail?
Vote: Shlin28. Tell me, why should we trust you, Shlin? Why should we be following your list? Personally, I find it a tad suspicious that night one, there is one kill, when you were hauled off to jail. And then there were no kills the next night, when you were still in jail.
Dont people read posts anymore???
On the night before last night, Caius said that the Mafia did not send in orders, therefore there are no kills. But the people I saw at the restaurant (me, Ichigo, WH, Orb and Seamus), must have sent in orders to go to the restaurant. Therefore we five are not mafia, ask the other four people, we are are innocent!!!
seireikhaan
08-19-2007, 22:12
First off,:wall: , for voting the wrong person. Unvote. Yes, I meant Beefy, but I did the post in rather a hurry, and I guess I forgot who was who, exactly.
So, Vote: Beefy
And if you're going based on the restuarant, Shlin, then why am I on your list of suspects? I went to the restuarant on both night one and night two. Andres and Orb saw me, respectively.
Only we 5 are definite confirmed innocents (as confirmed by Caius :beam:)
You may be innocent, but you could be mafia delibrately going to the restaurant...
I didn't get an invitation to go to the restaurant :bigcry:
Sarathos
08-20-2007, 02:53
This post is enough for me.
Vote : Sarathos
Im sorry for providing any alternative view and not just bandwagoning............:no:
But also, mafia dont have to always send in orders to kill, they can do what ever they like. Like going to a restaurant............Going and ebing in the restaurant doesnt really make you that innocent shlin.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-20-2007, 03:07
Well, Seamus had put suspicion on GH in a rather cryptic way, suggesting he had a role and urging him to reveal, preferably in private. I thought that was scummy. Note that it was the beginning of the game. I tried to generate discussion. Sides, if I would have been mafia, I would have understood what Seamus was saying and if lynching wouldn't have worked, I would have killed him, wouldn't I?
I'm referring to the events of page 11.
My first concern was to confirm Seamus' story. GH was trying to convince the town that the reveal was fake. Note that my comments were the only real confirmation of Seamus' reveal.
Your first action was to vote GH. It's extremely doubtful that your comments caused GH's lynch, it was inevitable. Even if the detective was lynched first, GH would have been lynched.
WIFOM.
Correct and that was poorly worded...now tell me, if you can recognize this as wifom why did vote sarathos for defending GH which is also clearly wifom?
Seamus Fermanagh
08-20-2007, 04:46
Correct and that was poorly worded...now tell me, if you can recognize this as wifom why did vote sarathos for defending GH which is also clearly wifom?
Are you channelling Tribesman here Sasaki?
Beefy187
08-20-2007, 05:05
ive been abstained because im getting this game and the other one mixed up and i cant think properly because of the stupid math assignment
night 1 i believe there was 1 kill and gun shot was heard on other place. there was two mafia me being jailed makes me innocent
and ive been going to the local park every single night since then.
GeneralHankerchief
08-20-2007, 05:20
Well well well... welcome back, Sasaki. :laugh4:
This is the last pm I received from Caius:
You went to the restaurant yesterday. The now dead dirty mafioso GeneralHankerchief was there, Warmaster Horus also.
--------------------
You went to the local bar. You went back home soon as Seamus died. You started to cry when you arrived home.
I'll stick to my vote, because:
But if GH is mafia like everyone is suggesting, why the hell has there been no kills? Unless he hasnt sent in any orders which I find very doubtful. OR he is just not mafia. Sorry guys
Nobody senses something wrong with this post? Sarathos is just stating the obvious, meanwhile keeping himself "in the middle". He's defending GH allright, but it feels a bit half-hearted. Like he is holding back to avoid making it a bit too obvious. Thát was what made me vote Sarathos, not WIFOM.
Keep in mind as well that Sarathos only has 9 posts in this thread. One post was pre-game (to sign in).
His second post was made on day 2 (after the Sasaki kill):
Why am i always the noob?
I like to call it 'getting to know the game' person, and how can i not be noob when everyone keeps lynching me
Doesn't say much.
Vote: Greaterkhaan for using an experienced mafia tactic and blaming it on the new guys
Also you'd better watch out GK cause i might be coming after you next.....
(If I was mafia, which Im not....but I will fiind a way...)
Second post on day 1. Here he goes with the flow and also makes an odd insinuation.
Third post on day 1:
Anyone got a tally?
Fourth post on day 1, was a response on a joke by Killfr3nzy:
Negative on that Killfr3ny
Its actually:
General H. = 1 (Seamus)
Greaterkhaan = 2 (Sarathos,Stig)
Twilightblade = 1 (Shlin28)
Orb = 2 (GH, Greaterkhaan)
Woad and Fangs = 4 (Andres,Ichigo,Warmaster Horus,Roadkill)
No vote = 1 (Beefy)
And what do we see now?
Did Sarathos post on day 2? Nope
Did he post on day 3? Yes:
Would that be Stallone or the scripter.....?
Just a funny response to Caius. No opinion, no vote.
On day 4 he posted the post I quoted above and which caught my eye and stays the main reason why I voted him.
After the last night results, he posted this:
Shooting a guy in the bathroom is pretty scummy. I mean, what is he going to defend himself with........???
Why did he have to post that? Seeing his lurking thoughout the whole game, I don't really understand this post. It seems like he felt he had to post something.
Im sorry for providing any alternative view and not just bandwagoning............
But also, mafia dont have to always send in orders to kill, they can do what ever they like. Like going to a restaurant............Going and ebing in the restaurant doesnt really make you that innocent shlin.
Here he says he didn't want to vote GH because he didn't want to bandwagon. How is voting somebody who has been found guilty by the detective bandwagoning? In the second paragraph he states the obvious. With the last sentence he basically says all of us are suspects, broadening the field of suspects instead of narrowing it down. Which makes it more confusing for the town. Like he is trying to make us look to every player still alive and not just only letting us pay attention to him.
Unless you find something better, I'll stick to my vote Sasaki.
Killfr3nzy
08-20-2007, 12:31
Uh well I'm not sure of the dates, but Twilight and Sarathos went on a school Biology camp for three days last week. Might explain the no-show on Day 2.
EDIT: Last week? No, week before. My bad.
Otherwise he seems to be going for the 'Oh God, oh God, I'm a noob at this game and don't know anyone I can trust; I shall lurk and post random comments which seem funny at the time but invariably get me lynched.' style of play that I've seen him use. Kind of like mine, except I think I get lynched less when innocent (aka discounting the last couple of games).
Beefy187
08-20-2007, 12:48
i believe the camp that sarathos went to were from wednesday to last friday Australian time.
anyway my names 187 and if someone says 182 again im gonna cry and change my name in to beefy182
this is based on shlins information
anyway Sarathos seems scummy but im really not sure about him.
CA has been quiet but is he gonna get Wogged? if so im not voting for him
Andres and GK is acting like a townie role. If they are mafia they are damn good player and we are stuffed
Pever havnt done much so i can say anything
Killfr3nzy shows up sometime and randomly leaves some decent info so dont think his guilty
Im innocent unless theres like a inner me who i dont know about and go around killing people.
we are not in great rush are we? we got plenty of living peoples so ill go for the most scummy sarathos
Vote: Sarathos
Tally:
Sarathos : 2 (Andres, Beefy)
Beefy: 2 (Shlin28, greaterkhaan)
Andres: 1 (Ichigo)
I wont lynch both. You have 34 mins to choose who will be lynched.
Vote Beefy people!!! His short stay in jail may or may not explain lack of kills, if we get it wrong, big sorry to Beefy.
I really think Sarathos would be a better choice, but, oh well:
Unvote; Vote : Beefy187
:dizzy2: Someone actually followed my advice!!!
Killfr3nzy
08-20-2007, 23:50
Andres follow shlin's advice over his own hunch? :inquisitive:
Andres follow shlin's advice over his own hunch? :Gc dizzy2:
Well, at the current stage it is either a) no lynch b) lynching Beefy. I prefer to lynch a possible suspect.
Beefy187 has been lynched. I'll write up the death tomorrow. I'm expecting the Pm's of everybody. I will WoG if they dont send turns to CountArach and Orb if they dont. Everyone should, for my sanity.
GeneralHankerchief
08-21-2007, 01:12
Hah! Guess again, chumps.
This night, two kills went in the city. Our local policeman, said the following report to The Chicago Herald:
The unexpected murder of Sasaki Kojiro had happened this night, when he was at his house. He have 2 headshoots of a shotgun. We received this news when a man who name I cant reveal that saw Sasaki Kojiro being killed by this man.
He called the police and we came. The suspect wasn't there any more, but we found Sasaki Kojiro dead.
But that night, we had another call.A man was saw with a gun in the 1rst Avenue 20 minutes ago. No-body was hurt, since he didnt shoot.
If Beefy was arrested that night then it wasn't him. I told you it was Andres....This is the last you'll hear from me.
Sarathos
08-21-2007, 02:45
Im glad you are keeping a life history on me in the org Andres....
Nobody senses something wrong with this post? Sarathos is just stating the obvious, meanwhile keeping himself "in the middle". He's defending GH allright, but it feels a bit half-hearted. Like he is holding back to avoid making it a bit too obvious. Thát was what made me vote Sarathos, not WIFOM.
I not defending anyone, as I said before I was just giving an alternative view and some extra evidence which is the whole point of the org.....I never withheld anyone cause there was nothing to withhold, I was being careful so people like you dont rant on like this about somehting that was nothing. I just said that comment with no strings attached.
On of the main reasons I post little is cause I would like to finish my education at school and not spend all day on the org....
The other two quotes were simply me defending myself.
Thats not an odd insinuation, see the little mark at the end, thats a question mark; meaning thats a question...... :shame:
See how no one answered my question and no one made a tally, i decided to do it myself.
That was a joke, and I didnt make a vote cause I didnt have enough evidence on anyone, I just dont go around point fingers at people and being wrong. Maybe you do...........
On day 4 he posted the post I quoted above and which caught my eye and stays the main reason why I voted him.
Yet another joke, Andres mate you need to relax. I did have to say it but it did need to be said. All of what you have written now didnt have to be said.......
You can pay attention to me all you like, but it will get pretty boring. The fact is we are all suspects including you, guilty until proven innocent. And do I need to help, you are doing a pretty good job so you do you want me?
pevergreen
08-21-2007, 03:16
Remember Sarathos this is a game. Andres is a lawyer. He plays hard. and well.
He will push you, he is skillful. Also, in a 1v1 argument he will win.
You need to calm down.
On of the main reasons I post little is cause I would like to finish my education at school and not spend all day on the org....
Then I'm sure you will want to get back to reading about HCI instead of being on the Star Wars wikipedia.
:bow:
Sarathos
08-21-2007, 03:31
Im completely calm, and we were just having an intelligant conversation
and if I ever go to prison I know who to call........
and its Wookieepedia...:whip:
pevergreen
08-21-2007, 03:33
:laugh4: lies.
:focus: thread getting off topic. don't want andres to use his new powers now do we?
Sarathos
08-21-2007, 03:35
Thanks to you.......:furious3:
:laugh4: lies.
:focus: thread getting off topic. don't want andres to use his new powers now do we?
It's the truth. I still say Andres is guilty.
GeneralHankerchief
08-21-2007, 04:11
Also, in a 1v1 argument he will win.
There are variables at play. He happens to be innocent, thus his argument having more weight being true and all. I guarantee you next time he's mafia someone will sniff him out and take him down.
Plus he's got that mystique just because he's put that Fear o' Lawyers in you all. Take away the green, forget he's a lawyer, and he can be beaten. Plus, I remember him as that spammer with the goofy redhaired avatar, so there goes that mystique.
No one mafia player is completely indispensible. Remember that. It takes an active town to win consistently.
Sarathos
08-21-2007, 04:55
It's the truth. I still say Andres is guilty.
Agreed
Beefy187
08-21-2007, 07:52
Aww ur gonna regret killing me:no:
good luck townies:yes:
Plus, I remember him as that spammer with the goofy redhaired avatar, so there goes that mystique.
Lies, lies, lies !
~;)
He happens to be innocent, thus his argument having more weight being true and all.
You see, I'm innocent. The mafia said so.
Killfr3nzy
08-21-2007, 08:43
You see, I'm innocent. The mafia said so.
Yes, because obviously we should trust everything GH says... ;p
Would anyone with a pro-town role (especially the other FBI guy), contact one of the five confirmed innocent please? (me, orb, WH, ichigo or Seamus) That way we can narrow down the list of suspects.
List of suspects:
Andres
greaterkhaan
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Seamus Fermanagh
08-21-2007, 19:47
As one of the "honored" dead, I would gladly serve as message central.
General:
You were born to WIFOM. Cary Elwes has nothing on you.
Seamus Fermanagh
08-21-2007, 20:13
The Bard would be proud've you Stig.
Everyone, please stop sending messages to Seamus.
Im waiting for more Pm'ers. That should finish in 4 hrs 30 mins.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-22-2007, 19:10
As you may have noticed, mods often have a certain preference when choosing mafioso's...e.g. the brotherhood, with GH, me, and Ichigo as mafia...this game GH is mafia again...lynch andres!
As you may have noticed, mods often have a certain preference when choosing mafioso's...e.g. the brotherhood, with GH, me, and Ichigo as mafia...this game GH is mafia again...lynch andres!
I think Caius already said he picks his roles randomly...
Besides, I got investigated TWICE and didn't perform any scummy activities. What do you need more?
But when you didn't do anything there werent any kills... (I think...)
Seamus Fermanagh
08-22-2007, 19:30
Everyone, please stop sending messages to Seamus.
Im waiting for more Pm'ers. That should finish in 4 hrs 30 mins.
Sorry about that. I hadn't passed on any info from one player to another -- and will not do so now that I can see it isn't appropriate. Nothing has been compromised.
Andres love his new job. He has became a mod in an important forum, and he got a new judgement to work. His life was very good. Was.
That night, everyone was in the bar. Andres started to drink an Belgian beer, that one he loved. The place was full of people, but that wasnt enough to protect him from being shot with a rifle. the attacker seems to be outside the bar. Everyone take cover. The attacker flee with his car away.
The Restaurant was opened again, it seems that place is upgraded now. Those are good news, well, except Andres death.
Alive:
shlin28
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Orb
Lynched:
woad&fangs
Stig
TwilightBlade
GeneralHankerchief
Beefy187
Killed:
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
Andres
Suicided:
RoadKill
Well the good part is I'm no longer a suspect...
Sasaki Kojiro
08-22-2007, 23:30
Don't trust andres and his tricks...
GH enjoyed setting up that kill I'm sure ~D
Yeah, I'm obviously mafia. It was all fake. I'm not really dead. Vote me!
Don't trust andres and his tricks...
GH enjoyed setting up that kill I'm sure ~D
I have to write the write up, because I write.
greaterkhaan
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
CountArach
Pick one, anyone...
And is CA WoGed?
Personally I will vote for... Sarathos, for making almost no contribution in this game, probably trying to stay neutral.
Vote: Sarathos
And it would be very useful if anyone on the suspect list who is innocent suicide, that way we can root out the mafia :beam:
pevergreen
08-23-2007, 01:16
No, that reduces the number of townies.
No, that reduces the number of townies.
Who is a suspect in your opinion?
Nah leave Sarathos
Go for Ichigo, and I'm being serious
Why ichigo? Hes on the innocent list (unless the host lied...:thumbsdown:)
Intersting that the mafia killed someone on the suspect list, rather the innocent group.
Why ichigo? Hes on the innocent list (unless the host lied...:thumbsdown:)
Interesting. Care to elaborate on that?
Do I have to explain the restaraunt thingy from night 3 again???
Do I have to explain the restaraunt thingy from night 3 again???
Please do, as it strange that Ichigo is innocent since night 3 and still not killed.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1643876&postcount=368
People who went to eat must have been innocent, cos Inca Man said that the Mafia didnt send in orders, so therefore the people who sent in orders to to to eat, must have not been mafia. :yes:
Eh, you missed Caius' response to that:
After looking at the PM's, I saw the mafia Pm's. Im very sorry for the error made there.
The way I understand it: the mafia did send pm's for that night, but didn't send orders to kill.
But Inca man could have missed the mafia pms, therefore didnt act on it. He only saw it after night has ended. Therefore my innocent list, still stands, sort of.
Nah leave Sarathos
Go for Ichigo, and I'm being serious
Why?
Why?
People are supposed to know you're innocent and you aren't killed yet
People are supposed to know you're innocent and you aren't killed yet
Didn't you read Andres post? shlin's list isn't correct. Which makes shlin guilty.
Vote:shlin
But Caius said first that "He didnt get any mafia pms.", therefore he THOUGHT there were no mafia pms, but then he found it, and said the sentence Andres remineded me.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-23-2007, 20:37
Didn't you read Andres post? shlin's list isn't correct. Which makes shlin guilty.
Vote:shlin
fos:ichigo
fos:ichigo
:huh: My logic is flawless.
Didn't you read Andres post? shlin's list isn't correct. Which makes shlin guilty.
Vote:shlin
Why is that? Maybe he just made a mistake. The other ones on the list are suspects as well. Why voting shlin and not paying the least attention to the other players?
So its a tie between me and Sarathos... will someone else vote please? :whip:
pevergreen
08-23-2007, 22:00
I have a feeling we are leaving Sasaki out of this. Everyone needs to be examined.
Sarathos and Shlin. Neither are really good lynches.
But for Shlin suggesting that innocent players suicide to prove innocence at this point...
Vote: Shlin
I still stand by my list, but if i am lynched list of people still alive:
greaterkhaan
Sarathos
pevergreen
Killfr3nzy
CountArach (or is he WoGed?)
Warmaster Horus
Ichigo
Orb (or is he WoGed?)
The town should still lynch the people on the top of the list. Theres only one mafia left, so pretty good chance of finding him, if only the FBI guys reveals something...
greaterkhaan should talk as well.
But for Shlin suggesting that innocent players suicide to prove innocence at this point...
I was asking the innocent people on the "suspect list", to suicide, which must have left one mafia. I was not asking everyone to suciide, and if everyone suicided, the mafia would win. But if all the innocent suspects suicided, the town would win. And it was a joke anyway...
And it was a joke anyway...
We were not amused :brood:
~;p
seireikhaan
08-23-2007, 22:35
Vote: Pevergreen. Something just seems off, I'm not sure quite what, but I'm feeling a bad vibe at this point. He says that Shlin and Sarathos are bad lynches, then proceeds to vote Shlin.:inquisitive:
Why is that? Maybe he just made a mistake. The other ones on the list are suspects as well. Why voting shlin and not paying the least attention to the other players?
You were killed. He says he stands by his list. Of course. My logic is flawless.
Hey, my list is currently the best way to figure out whos mafia, we have NO evidence apart from my list and Seamus' reveal. So unless people starts to cough up evidence for the town... well, the mafia would win.
Hey, my list is currently the best way to figure out whos mafia, we have NO evidence apart from my list and Seamus' reveal. So unless people starts to cough up evidence for the town... well, the mafia would win.
Your list is wrong.
Well, its better than nothing... :embarassed:
At the end, I bet 2 cents that the mafia is on my suspect list
Well, its better than nothing... :embarassed:
At the end, I bet 2 cents that the mafia is on my suspect list
:inquisitive:
Sasaki Kojiro
08-23-2007, 23:22
Ichigo, what does your list look like?
Sarathos
08-23-2007, 23:34
Hey, my list is currently the best way to figure out whos mafia, we have NO evidence apart from my list and Seamus' reveal. So unless people starts to cough up evidence for the town... well, the mafia would win.
*cough**cough* I'm innocent, evidence enough
Ichigo, what does your list look like?
Wouldn't you like to know. I'm waiting for a reply from Caius. Then I'll show you.~;)
pevergreen
08-23-2007, 23:42
Yes. Anyone who wants a list of my actions, pm me.
Unvote:, Vote:Warmaster
He was in the bar when Seamus died, Andres was in the bar he's dead, Shlin, me, and Warmaster were in the bar also. I'm innocent, shlin's innocent so the only person left is Warmaster.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-24-2007, 00:06
Caius wasn't online in between the time you said you were waiting for a reply from him and when you posted your suspicions.
Where does this information come from? Not that I disbelieve you yet, you sound quite certain.
pevergreen
08-24-2007, 00:43
Caius wasn't online in between the time you said you were waiting for a reply from him and when you posted your suspicions.
Where does this information come from? Not that I disbelieve you yet, you sound quite certain.
which makes me more suspicious of him. but i wasn't in the first place so i can let it go...
Caius wasn't online in between the time you said you were waiting for a reply from him and when you posted your suspicions.
Where does this information come from? Not that I disbelieve you yet, you sound quite certain.
His PM would just confirm my suspicions of him.
Me of course.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-24-2007, 02:45
if you have a role that confirms warmaster as guilty then just claim it...
if you have a role that confirms warmaster as guilty then just claim it...
:idea: If I did I would Sasaki ~;)
Sasaki Kojiro
08-24-2007, 04:11
how do you know shlin is innocent then? And how do you know who was in the bar?
apparently I missed some game mechanic when I wasn't paying attention to the thread...
how do you know shlin is innocent then? And how do you know who was in the bar?
apparently I missed some game mechanic when I wasn't paying attention to the thread...
if you have a role that confirms warmaster as guilty then just claim it...
:sleeping:
Unvote:, Vote:Warmaster
He was in the bar when Seamus died, Andres was in the bar he's dead, Shlin, me, and Warmaster were in the bar also. I'm innocent, shlin's innocent so the only person left is Warmaster.
There's something wrong with that reasoning.
Seamus and I died in the bar. Shlin you and Warmaster where there. I don't understand why we should accept that you and shlin are innocent.
So the remaining mafioso is shlin, Ichigo or Warmaster, assuming that we can be 100 % sure that only those three where at the bar together with me and Seamus.
Warmaster is rather quiet, let us start with him. But I strongly advice the town to keep an eye on Ichigo and shlin.
Warmaster Horus
08-24-2007, 09:53
Is there a tally available?
I was in the restaurant every night, except the last one since it was closed. Then I went to the bar to drink coffee.
Where does it say Ichigo or shlin are innocent, precisely?
Sasaki Kojiro
08-24-2007, 12:37
Does it matter? I'm pretty sure we have 3 lynches left, if we can indeed narrow it down to those three people. I don't think ichigo would bring that information to light if he was guilty.
Interesting that everyone innocent on my list is currently "to-be-lynched". Anybody got any evidence about the innocence of the other 5 on my presumably useless suspect list?
Vote: Pevergreen. Something just seems off, I'm not sure quite what, but I'm feeling a bad vibe at this point. He says that Shlin and Sarathos are bad lynches, then proceeds to vote Shlin.:inquisitive:
Not a single comment on the famous shlin list?
Tally
sarathos 1: (shlin28)
shlin28 1: (pevergreen)
pevergreen 1: (greaterkhaan)
warmaster horus 1: (ichigo)
Warmaster Horus
08-24-2007, 13:51
Does it matter?
If you're talking about whether Ichigo and Shlin are confirmed innocents, of course it matters.
If you're talking about whether Ichigo and Shlin are confirmed innocents, of course it matters.
We are also talking about the confirmed innocence of a certain Warmaster Horus...
Sasaki Kojiro
08-24-2007, 15:29
hmm vote warmaster everybody
Off course, there's always the possibility that another player was in the restaurant when the murders took place and that nobody noticed that player because he was mafia.
Gah, this is getting confusing.
seireikhaan
08-24-2007, 15:57
Off course, there's always the possibility that another player was in the restaurant when the murders took place and that nobody noticed that player because he was mafia.
Gah, this is getting confusing.
Exactly why I'm going to ignore Shlin's list, ignore the 'people who must be it', according to Sasaki. I'm going to go with my instinct, after looking at the posting. Pever is acting a little more neutral than he has in the past, imo.
For example:
which makes me more suspicious of him. but i wasn't in the first place so i can let it go... What an utterly worthless post. This post accomplishes nothing other than maintaining a 'neutral' stance. Hence why I will stick to my vote of Pever.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-24-2007, 16:10
I had the impression that list was definitive...
It was, at I think so. From what I understand from Caius' words, he didnt see the mafia pms, but saw them after the night phase had ended. So everyone who sent in order to the restaurant must be innocent. (10th time i ve explained it... :wall:)
Shlin is innocent because I investigated him last night.
So you are the other CIA guy? And why did you vote for me if you know I am innocent?
So you are the other CIA guy? And why did you vote for me if you know I am innocent?
Caius has a bad habit of taking forever giving me my results.
If you are who you say you are, you got any guilty results you have investigated using your role?
If you are who you say you are, you got any guilty results you have investigated using your role?
:no:
Not a very good reveal, not a very good reveal at all :no:
You should have waited till you found someone guilty, and now you will be killed for sure next night.
Not a very good reveal, not a very good reveal at all :no:
You should have waited till you found someone guilty, and now you will be killed for sure next night.
Well no not really the only possible mafia is Warmaster unless I got screwed over by Caius.
Warmaster Horus
08-24-2007, 18:17
Well no not really the only possible mafia is Warmaster unless I got screwed over by Caius.
What does that mean?
Who else did you investigate?
I STILL stand by my list, and thinks that WH is innocent :shame:
Warmaster Horus
08-24-2007, 18:47
You're right to think that. I gave my list of whereabouts. Oh, the only time I changed that was on the second night to visit beefy.
So... anyone gonna break the four way tie?
Sasaki Kojiro
08-24-2007, 22:59
just lynch warmaster!
pevergreen
08-25-2007, 00:28
Vote: Warmaster
Can I have my Pm's from the last 3 nights please? I havent gotten anything.
Sure.
Execution will be going on now!
GeneralHankerchief
08-25-2007, 01:01
Hahaha, wrong again, suckers!
Everyone is anxious now, they are supposed to lynch the remaining mafia.
But the expectations, are reduced to nothing. Warmaster Horus is nothing more than a good person. He have to die. The town is going to the grave, unless they do something better.
Warmaster is going to be shot to the death. The tree Killer, will do this. He was going to be shot, but Warmaster tries to run away. Various shots are heard. Warmaster falls to the ground. He fights for his own life, but he failed. He is another dead in the "Il Padrino incident".
Who will survive? Who is the next? Just stay away from the mafia, and maybe the luck gives you a chance of being alive!
Orb and CountArach were found dead, thanks to the Wrath of Caius Flaminius. They made everything wrong, and their god payed for those actions!
Alive:
shlin28
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Lynched:
woad&fangs
Stig
TwilightBlade
GeneralHankerchief
Beefy187
Killed:
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
Andres
Suicided:
RoadKill
Wrath of Caius Flaminius, the local god of Chicago:
Orb
CountArach
seireikhaan
08-25-2007, 02:22
Told you guys to lynch Pever. Guess nobody listens to me...
Investigated him he is innocent.
:sweatdrop:
Sarathos
08-25-2007, 03:15
Well, thats how good pever is.....
Sasaki Kojiro
08-25-2007, 04:48
hmm maybe we should lynch greaterkhaan.
pevergreen
08-25-2007, 04:50
we'll see.
seireikhaan
08-25-2007, 05:18
Well, if Pever's innocent, then I'll go back to my original idea, I guess, and say, perhaps Sarathos for lynch.
GeneralHankerchief
08-25-2007, 05:20
Nah, they're both innocent.
pevergreen
08-25-2007, 05:21
:laugh4:
I agree with him as well.
Mafia is one of these people
shlin28
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
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