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Kamui_Imagawa
08-05-2002, 16:14
In MTW what are all the possibilities for castle sieging? It sounds like a key element to the game, but what methods are given to utilise? See i like to draw up lil' tactics beforehand but i need to know HOW? can you people help!!!?

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The assasin of night is a dangerous foe, the assasin of day is extremely dangerous

ShadesWolf
08-05-2002, 17:18
I have moved this into the MTW forum.

Vanya
08-05-2002, 23:05
GAH!

Take siege engine.

Shoot engine at walls to break walls down.

Send men into gaps to clash with enemy defender pig-dogs.

GAH! CUT HEADS OFF! GAH!

Take castle.

If you LACK siege engines, it goes more like this...

Put army into wedgies.

Charge wedgies at walls/gates. Use heads as battering rams.

Eventually, the repetitive ramming effect will bring wall/gate down. If there are enough men left alive, that is.

Charge remnants into castle gap and clash with enemy.

GAH! CUT HEADS OFF! GAH!

Take castle.



[This message has been edited by Vanya (edited 08-05-2002).]

Funky Phantom
08-06-2002, 02:57
He makes it sound so simple http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

oZoNeLaYeR
08-06-2002, 07:17
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif he sure does make it sounds simple!

CUT HEAD OFF! Eyeball soup http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

Nelson
08-06-2002, 08:34
You can always besiege a castle without assaulting it. In time it will fall if relief isn't forthcoming.

I wonder if having engines with your army accelerates the surrender when all you do is wait them out.

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Loras
08-06-2002, 09:51
perhaps a large wooden badger....

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fubi
08-06-2002, 12:15
LOL

with the second atioch battle in teh demo i found the best thing to do is knock out all arrow towers within range and then break open one or two holes in the castle then leave your siege engines killing the garrison. when your out of ammo have of the enemy are dead and all the rest are demoralised, walk right inand takethe place...

there is also the way of doing it where you just stay on the central hill for 5 mins...

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
08-06-2002, 17:11
LOL that was the fun battle.

You get two catapults and two mangonels, and yeah i detroyed all the arrow towers along the front wall of the castle(not the stokade).

On the stockade i destroyed to parts of it broke open the gate and destroyed that big Shack cuz it would get in the way of my troops advancing.

By the way for those who haven't played the demo, you destroy walls and towers by hitting them consistently with your seige weapons. But the good thing about those weapons is that they are never 100% accurate so u tend to over shoot quite alot. LOL but when the AI realises where your attacking they place most of their troops there and so if you over shoot you kill alot of their troops.

Yeah so the peasants inside the stockade die in the thousands(well tens actually http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif)

Also you can use your seige crews to fight when u have run out of ammo. They aren't great but better than nothing. Can swing a battle if you can get them round the flanks and charge an enemy units back.

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Kamui_Imagawa
08-07-2002, 03:12
Yeah, I just tried out the demo and it is great. Castle sieging is great fun, i especially enjoy the way the big lump of rock from your siege engine simply splats 10 men at a time! Also the way it bounces can be hideously affective! Arrow towers though not seriously damaging sorta scare me, the way your men are slowly picked off as you try and knock down walls etc.

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The assasin of night is a dangerous foe, the assasin of day is extremely dangerous

Emp. Conralius
08-07-2002, 04:19
Although the approach is straight forward, a lot of tactics go into the siege of a fortress.

el_slapper
08-07-2002, 18:55
Sure. Especially if the enemy has got fast units, i.e. cavalry. In this case he can try to get out the walls & punish your siege crew. So all-out attack is not an options. Your siege weapons are far to valuables to give the besieged enemy the slightest chance of success.

It's easier in the demo, he only has footmen. 11 killed by each accurate shot of siege weapon. Woohoo targeting units is somewhat fun.

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War is not about who is right, only about who is left