Heroes found in MTW

[Emp. Conralius]

I waslooking in the demo files and found the names of the heroes found in MTW. Unfortunately they first name is seperated from the last (it's a long read).


["Cid"] {"Cid"}
["Diaz de Vivar"] {"Diaz de Vivar"}
["de Boulogne"] {"de Boulogne"}
["Sgouros"] {"Sgouros"}
["of Locksley"] {"of Locksley"}
["Dolcino"] {"Dolcino"}
["de Montfort the Younger"] {"de Montfort the Younger"}
["Walays"] {"Walays"}
["Urosh Dushan"] {"Urosh Dushan"}
["Agnes Dunbar"] {"Agnes Dunbar"}
["van Artevelde"] {"van Artevelde"}
["Tyler"] {"Tyler"}
["Glyndwr"] {"Glyndwr"}
["Bey"] {"Bey"}
["Khaldun abd al—Rahman"] {"Khaldun abd al—Rahman"}
["Boradiotes"] {"Boradiotes"}
["Acropolites"] {"Acropolites"}
["Beccus"] {"Beccus"}
["Palamas"] {"Palamas"}
["Sphrantzes"] {"Sphrantzes"}
["Grammaticus"] {"Grammaticus"}
["Sturluson"] {"Sturluson"}
["Elovsdottir"] {"Elovsdottir"}
["Jonsson Grip"] {"Jonsson Grip"}
["Shahinshah"] {"Shahinshah"}
["Ilghazi of Aleppo"] {"Ilghazi of Aleppo"}
["al-Din"] {"al-Din"}
["al-Din Shirkoh"] {"al-Din Shirkoh"}
["ad Din "] {"ad Din "}
["ad-Din"] {"ad-Din"}
["al-Harrani"] {"al-Harrani"}
["de Bayeux"] {"de Bayeux"}
["de Normandie"] {"de Normandie"}
["Borleng"] {"Borleng"}
["FitzGilbert"] {"FitzGilbert"}
["Beckett"] {"Beckett"}
["Mercadier"] {"Mercadier"}
["Marshall"] {"Marshall"}
["de Nesle"] {"de Nesle"}
["de Montfort the Elder"] {"de Montfort the Elder"}
["Calveley"] {"Calveley"}
["Hawkwood"] {"Hawkwood"}
["de Grailly"] {"de Grailly"}
["Knollys"] {"Knollys"}
["Chaucer"] {"Chaucer"}
["Camoys"] {"Camoys"}
["de la Pole"] {"de la Pole"}
["of Cluny"] {"of Cluny"}
["of Boulogne"] {"of Boulogne"}
["of Bouillon"] {"of Bouillon"}
["of Clairvaux"] {"of Clairvaux"}
["de Payns"] {"de Payns"}
["of Ypres"] {"of Ypres"}
["de Ridefort"] {"de Ridefort"}
["de Troyes"] {"de Troyes"}
["Cadoc"] {"Cadoc"}
["de Charny"] {"de Charny"}
["Froissart"] {"Froissart"}
["le Maingre Boucicault"] {"le Maingre Boucicault"}
["de la Salle"] {"de la Salle"}
["de Richmont"] {"de Richmont"}
["Bureau"] {"Bureau"}
["de Bueil"] {"de Bueil"}
["of Arc"] {"of Arc"}
["the Lion"] {"the Lion"}
["von Aue"] {"von Aue"}
["of Marburg"] {"of Marburg"}
["of Bohemia"] {"of Bohemia"}
["Sterz"] {"Sterz"}
["Bongarten"] {"Bongarten"}
["von Ürslingen"] {"von Ürslingen"}
["Zizka"] {"Zizka"}
["de Tankerville"] {"de Tankerville"}
["of Montferrat"] {"of Montferrat"}
["de Plano Carpini"] {"de Plano Carpini"}
["d'Assisi"] {"d'Assisi"}
["Dante"] {"Dante"}
["Castracane"] {"Castracane"}
["Visconti"] {"Visconti"}
["da Barbiano"] {"da Barbiano"}
["Colleoni"] {"Colleoni"}
["Sforza"] {"Sforza"}
["Petrach"] {"Petrach"}
["Oleshnicki"] {"Oleshnicki"}
["Petrovich"] {"Petrovich"}
["Kirillovich"] {"Kirillovich"}
["de Guzmán"] {"de Guzmán"}
["de Torquemada"] {"de Torquemada"}
["Martinez"] {"Martinez"}
["Díaz Bermejo"] {"Díaz Bermejo"}
["Sabbah"] {"Sabbah"}
["al-Din Zengi"] {"al-Din Zengi"}
["Timurtash"] {"Timurtash"}
["al-Din Aibak"] {"al-Din Aibak"}
["Evrenos"] {"Evrenos"}
["de Lauria"] {"de Lauria"}
["de Montaigu"] {"de Montaigu"}
["de Vergy"] {"de Vergy"}
["Hunyadi"] {"Hunyadi"}
["Tepes"] {"Tepes"}
["Tverdislavich"] {"Tverdislavich"}
["of Verona"] {"of Verona"}
["of Rome"] {"of Rome"}
["de Monte Corvino"] {"de Monte Corvino"}
["di Rienzo"] {"di Rienzo"}
["Alvarez Carillo"] {"Alvarez Carillo"}
["de Hauteville"] {"de Hauteville"}
["de Flor"] {"de Flor"}
["Tell"] {"Tell"}
["von Malters

[Zawath]

Cool, Robin Hood is there

[Stephen Hummell]

Can anybody translate that stuff for me cos i see no Robin Hood.

[Emp. Conralius]

Quote Originally posted by Stephen Hummell:
Can anybody translate that stuff for me cos i see no Robin Hood.[/QUOTE]

Robin Hood's supposed name was Robin of Lockesley...it's in the list (of Lockesley).

[Stephen Hummell]

Thanks Emp.

Why is De Monfort a hero. He almost destroyed the English Monarchy

[Emp. Conralius]

Quote Originally posted by Stephen Hummell:
Thanks Emp.

Why is De Monfort a hero. He almost destroyed the English Monarchy[/QUOTE]

lol, thats a heroic deed!

[Red Peasant]

De Montfort was a great English hero who fought for what passed as a kind of representative govt, in mediaeval terms that is. The monarchy didn't take kindly to his attempts at limiting its powers. He almost succeeded, yet died courageously in his last battle.

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To see a world in a grain of sand,
And Heaven in a wild flower,
To hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.

William Blake.

[Emp. Conralius]

don't you just hate it when great leaders have such uneventfull deaths!? Here's a few examples:

-Ghengis Khan died from a crippling disease that put him through excrutiating pains

-Frederich Bararossa died by drowning in a river on his way to the Holy Land

-Attila the Hun died of a nosebleed (nuff said).

-El Cid was hit by a stray Spanish arrow while defending Valencia from the Berbers and died soon thereafter.

-Robin Hood died of a crippling disease. It was said that before he died, he shot an arrow out the window of the inn his was staying in, and wherever it landed, he wanted Little John to bury him there.

[Stephen Hummell]

I've seen a picture of El Cid from the game and he has blonde hair with no beard.

El Cid had Brown Hair with a Large beard.

[Hirosito]

that's it i'm not buying this game

[Emp. Conralius]

Quote Originally posted by Hirosito:
that's it i'm not buying this game[/QUOTE]

are you serious?

[the Count of Flanders]

Cool, van Artevelde is there (I'm impressed) and also the Bouillon and Boulogne brothers.

[DarknScaly]

actually the "heroes" are generic name templates - so they dont necessarilly refer to a specific "hero".

E.g. I got a "hero" assassin named "Guy"..."..Of Gisbourne" - came out as a 5star (valour) assassin instead of a normal one.

So the "heroes" names get attached to any "special quality" unit that get randomly generated in the game.

That isnt too say that the specific Heroes arent in there also - just that the names aren't always indicative of an individual hero.

(hope that makes sense)

Edit: Oh ive also had both "de Montforts" and a "Tankerville" - tankerville's always seem to be either totally corrupt or easy to bribe...

[This message has been edited by DarknScaly (edited 08-05-2002).]

[Hirosito]

what the difference?

emp... of course not

[DarknScaly]

corrupt guys reduce income in the province - "easy to bribe" guys are just "easy to bribe"

[Vlad The Impaler]

["Hunyadi"] {"Hunyadi"}
["Tepes"] {"Tepes"}
two valachian leaders ( by origins ) , thats great; the last one is Vlad The Impaler ( Vlad Tepes in romanian )
cool , Vlad The Impaler is in the game http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

[Emp. Conralius]

Quote Originally posted by Hirosito:
what the difference?

emp... of course not[/QUOTE]

http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif just checkin'

[Emp. Conralius]

What unit type would thes heroes be? There is a Historical Battle were you can be Joan of Arc; what unit is she in? Is El Cid a royalknight or something? Would Robin of Locksly have a ittle ban of "merry" longbows?

[deejayvee]

Quote Why is De Monfort a hero. He almost destroyed the English Monarchy[/QUOTE]
What about his father? He led the Albigensian crusade against the Cathars.

I guess that's why there's a "de Montfort the Younger" and a "de Montfort the Elder".

[Lurkster]

Hey DnS,
What exactly qualifies as a "special quality" unit? Only uniques, or what?
Thanks

[DarknScaly]

probably - ive no idea how exactly the game assigns heroes to unit productions - it "appears" to be both unit AND province-built-in dependent (e.g. build enough urban milita in Angevin ENglish provinces and you'll get a "XXX de Normandie"...

but im fumbling in the dark with this tbh.

I "thinK" (but im not sure) that Ive got "Guy of Gisbourne" every time from building an assassin in Northumbria (Nottingham Castle)..but as i tend to use Northumbria as my "spy centre" when i play that may not be such a conincidence as it seems.

[Lurkster]

Thanks DnS!