Who has the best Calvary

[HJM168359]

I think from what i have done with the demo that the byzantines have the best calvary, i really like the Kataphratoic. What do u think.

[Rocket_Boy]

Do you really think so? I thought they were really poor in comparison to the royal knights that the player controls. However I believe from what others have posted that the Kataphratoic appear early in the game and are very powerful at that point. I think that in later periods they are eclipsed by the emergence of powerful knights from the western nations. However they do look pretty cool I must admit.

[HJM168359]

Have u messed at all with the demo. In the jaffa battle i took chivilric knight against the muslim and lost but when i used cataphrats i won quickly with few losses. I believe many people think they are bad because the AI in the demo used them very poorly.

[HJM168359]

They seemed espically powerful against infantry. Complety tearing them to shreads. They also did nicely against the calvary.

[Thane Talain MacDonald]

Calvary or Cavalry?

I only ever use the latter, but which one is correct?

[Loras]

cavalry be correct http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif calvary is the place of the skull i think...something like that anyway.

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[Vanya]

Mexican Heavy Burro Lancers are the best cavalry units.

That is only because animals don't like fire. Otherwise, the Mexican Ass Flamethrower Regiment would be a reality.




[This message has been edited by Vanya (edited 07-23-2002).]

[Kraxis]

Well, I tried to use the Byzantine Cavalry in one of my mods, and they are equally powerful as the Kats. Ok they don't have the lances or the armour but they have almost the same strength in both defence and attack, plus they are armed with bows. And they are much faster!
So it depends on how you use them.

Personally I prefer the Kats. more than the Byz. Cavalry, but don't ignore those medium cavalry types.

[Emp. Conralius]

Quote Originally posted by HJM168359:
I think from what i have done with the demo that the byzantines have the best calvary, i really like the Kataphratoic. What do u think.[/QUOTE]

From experience I can tell you that they are very good heavy cav., but they are sooooo slow! Even the heaviest of Western Knights could run laps around these guys. But they are not to be underestimated. They can beat Royal and Chiv. Knights with really no problem what so ever...

[Kongamato]

Does anybody here have an idea on how the Spanish Cav units measure up to the others? They have the Knights of Santiago, who might be as good as order knights, and the Spanish Jinetes, medium cav that can throw Javelins. Anybody know 'bout these guys?

[Rocket_Boy]

Do any of the Muslim nations have powerful cavalry?

[Emp. Conralius]

Quote Originally posted by Kongamato:
Does anybody here have an idea on how the Spanish Cav units measure up to the others? They have the Knights of Santiago, who might be as good as order knights, and the Spanish Jinetes, medium cav that can throw Javelins. Anybody know 'bout these guys?[/QUOTE]

Well, from what I know, the Knights Santiago are just as good as any other fighting order, they are great heavy cav. but aren't as impetous and foolish as there Western brethren.

[Emp. Conralius]

Quote Originally posted by Rocket_Boy:
Do any of the Muslim nations have powerful cavalry?[/QUOTE]

The Turks have Siphahis which are just as good as any heavy knight. Available to all Islamic factions are Ghulams, which are "light" heavy cav. Aslo the Khwarazmian Cav. which are very heavy, knight-like Muslim cav (unusual for Muslims). Mamluk cav present good medium cav. who fairwell against armoured enemies.

[Stephen Hummell]

The Muslim factions have royal Ghulam knights, which are the muslim royal guard. The turks have the Sipahi of the Porte.

[LittleGrizzly]

different cavalry is better in different situations....

on a desert light cav would be a better option but in the green pastures of europe im sure heavily armoured cav will do much better

[Rokkaku]

Kataphracts are incredible incredibly powerful againts infantry, trampling them with there hooves as they were trained to do.(this is historical) so the deal is that they are the ultimate infantry killers, they flounder againts tough cavalry though.

[czaralex]

I personally think that the best overall cavalry will be the boyar. ( I may be a bit prejuduced toward them, I am Russian) But the combination of medium-heavy cavalry with bow and arrows seems unstopable. Think about this, against Kats or Heavy Knights or spear-pikes use the arrows, against everybody else use a wedge charge.

[Prodigy]

These are unit stats from the demo ("crusader_unit_prod11" file). If you have not yet checked them out, here are some cavalry:

Name/Identifier Unit type Cost Support Cost Production time Starting honour handicap Units base strength Number of men in unit ( Base value before scaling ) Honour step value General candidate? ( eg. Stealth troops are not ) Rebelling Troop mixes this unit can belong to Ruler ID troop advantage Region ID troop advantage Dojo advantage modifier Unit choices (AI) Unit Speciality extra building influences Buildings needed to produce this Unit Unit Class Moral Bonus Aplicable periods Is this units base unitsize scalable? Stats and general info about this trooptype Is the unit invisible to other players in the strategy map? Unit specialities Tooltip Labels Mount type The body type + flags used for this troop in battle If this unit is a leader of a faction then specify here which faction it leads. Faction Association Region The order in which the units suitability for formation positions is evaluated. "Another set of suitability values for the formations troop types, this one represents the suitability of a type to perform certain tasks." Specific cultures this unit belongs to. "Ship info, including stats ( if this is a ship ).." NumSupportingRanks Number of ranks behind first that can give support in melee. Default is 0. "Effects chance of becomming inpetuous, and some other morale effects. Default is NORMAL." Affects how evenly spaced the troops are in formation. Cosmetic only. Default is POORLY_FORMED. "ShieldType. The type of shield the unit is considered to have for combat purposes


Boyar CAVALRY 625 21 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "ORTH_LOYALISTS(5), ORTH_REBELS(15), ORTH_ZEALOTS(5)" TRIPOLI "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(62)" "{HORSE_BREEDER3,ARMOURER3}" "ATTACKER, AMBUSH, MISSILE,STRONG, ANTI_MISSILE, CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( MTLG ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 4 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 5 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 6 ), AMMO( 28 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "EEUROCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" "RUSSIAN,NOVGOROD" "RUSSIAN,NOVGOROD" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(2), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

LateRoyalKnights CAVALRY 800 25 1 0 80 20 1 PREFERRED "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(80), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(80), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(80), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(80), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(80), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(80), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(40), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(80)" {ROYAL_COURT} LATE NO "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 5 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 7 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 9 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "LAKNIGHT, YES, YES, ArmHorse" "ENGLISH, FRENCH, GERMAN_HRE, HUNGARIAN, ITALIAN, PAPIST, POLISH, SICILIAN, SPANISH, DANISH" "ARAGONESE, BURGUNDIAN, DANISH, ENGLISH, FRENCH, GERMAN_HRE, HUNGARIAN, ITALIAN, NOVGOROD, PAPIST, POLISH, RUSSIAN, SICILIAN, SPANISH, SWISS" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry

TeutonicKnights CAVALRY 875 10 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED CATH_ZEALOTS(2) PRUSSIA "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(87)" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 5 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MKNIGHT, YES, YES, KHorse" GERMAN_HRE "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),
"SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

KnightsTemplar CAVALRY 750 10 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "CATH_HERETICS(2), CATH_REBELS(2), CATH_ZEALOTS(2), MUS_REBELS(1)" JERUSALEM "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(75)" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 4 ), MELEE_BONUS( 5 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MKNIGHT, YES, YES, KHorse" "ENGLISH, FRENCH" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

GothicKnights CAVALRY 975 12 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "CATH_HERETICS(5), CATH_LOYALISTS(10), CATH_ZEALOTS(10), ORTH_LOYALISTS(15), ORTH_REBELS(5), ORTH_ZEALOTS(5)" GERMAN_HRE SAXONY "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(97)" "{ ARMOURER4, HORSE_BREEDER4, ROYAL_COURT4 }" "ATTACKER, ANTI_INFANTRY, CAVALRY,STRONG" LATE YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 12 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 16 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 4 ), MELEE_BONUS( 4 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 7 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 9 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "LAKNIGHT, YES, YES, ArmHorse" "GERMAN_HRE, ITALIAN" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(1), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

GoldenHordeHeavyCavalry CAVALRY 600 21 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED MONG_RAIDERS(30) "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(60)" "{ HORSE_BREEDER4, SPEARMAKER4 }" "ATTACKER, ANTI_INFANTRY, CAVALRY" "HIGH, LATE" YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 6 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 6 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 6 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MOCOSCAV, YES, YES, EHorse" GOLDEN_HORDE GOLDEN_HORDE "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

GoldenHordeHorseArchers CAVALRY 375 12 1 0 80 40 1 OK "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(37)" "{ BOWYER3, HORSE_BREEDER3 }" "ATTACKER, AMBUSH, MISSILE,STRONG, ANTI_MISSILE, CAVALRY" "HIGH, LATE" YES "HEIGHT( 110 ), RADIUS( 45 ), SCALE( 125 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( MTLG ), SAMURAI( NO ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 24 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 26 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 145 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 145 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 1500 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 2 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 1 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 3 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 28 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 3 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MOCOSCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" GOLDEN_HORDE "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(2), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

KnightsHospitaller CAVALRY 875 10 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED MALTA "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(87)" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 5 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MKNIGHT, YES, YES, Khorse" ITALIAN "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),


PronoiaiAllagion CAVALRY 475 25 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "ORTH_HERETICS(10), ORTH_LOYALISTS(15), ORTH_REBELS(10), ORTH_ZEALOTS(0)" NICAEA "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(47)" "{HORSE_BREEDER3, SPEARMAKER3}" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 6 ), MELEE_BONUS( 4 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 3 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 5 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "SMAILCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" BYZANTINE "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

Kataphraktoi CAVALRY 400 21 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "ORTH_LOYALISTS(5), ORTH_ZEALOTS(0)" CONSTANTINOPLE "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(40)" "{HORSE_BREEDER3, ARMOURER3}" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 12 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 16 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MAILHCAV, YES, YES, EHorse" BYZANTINE BYZANTINE "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

KnightsSantiago CAVALRY 875 10 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED CATH_ZEALOTS(2) LEON "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(87)" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 5 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MKNIGHT, YES, YES, KHorse" SPANISH "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

Lancers CAVALRY 1100 21 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "CATH_LOYALISTS(3), CATH_REBELS(5), ORTH_LOYALISTS(5), ORTH_REBELS(5)" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(110)" "{ SPEARMAKER4, HORSE_BREEDER4,ARMOURER4 }" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" "HIGH, LATE" YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 5 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 7 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 9 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "LAKNIGHT, YES, YES, ArmHorse" "SPANISH,ARAGONESE" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

My conclusion:
All cavalry are impotant, but Late Royal Khights and Lancers emmerge to be the toughest in battle, but (like all others) not immortal or unbeatable. Though Lancers appear to be the most expensive, their support is twice less of the Royal ones (due to that they are proffesional soldiers unlike khights).

PS. Boyar's arrows wont do any good against heavy khight's armour, in melee they will fall to them, and runnig away wont help either - their speed is the same of any khight (except Gothic Khights and Kataphraktoi).


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LateRoyalGhulamKnights CAVALRY 425 25 1 0 80 20 1 PREFERRED "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(80), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(80), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(80), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(80), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(80), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(80), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(40), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(42)" {ROYAL_COURT} LATE NO "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 6 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 7 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 6 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "LAKNIGHT, YES, YES, ArmHorse" "EGYPTIAN, ALMOHAD" "ALMOHAD, EGYPTIAN, TURKISH" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

SpanishJinetes CAVALRY 250 10 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "CATH_BANDITS(2), CATH_HERETICS(5), CATH_ZEALOTS(10), CATH_LOYALISTS(15), CATH_PEASANTS(5),CATH_REBELS(10)" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(100), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(25)" {HORSE_BREEDER2} "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( JAV ), SAMURAI( NO ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 24 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 26 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 145 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 145 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 1500 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 2 ), MELEE_BONUS( 2 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 2 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 3 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 2 ), AMMO( 4 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 3 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "LARMWCAV, YES, YES,LiHorse" "ARAGONESE, BURGUNDIAN, DANISH, ENGLISH, FRENCH, GERMAN_HRE, HUNGARIAN, ITALIAN, NOVGOROD, PAPIST, POLISH, RUSSIAN, SICILIAN, SPANISH, SWISS" "LEON, CASTILE, ARAGON, CORDOVA, GRANADA, NAVARRE,VALENCIA" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

SipahiofthePorte CAVALRY 550 21 1 0 80 20 1 PREFERRED "MUS_LOYALISTS(5), MUS_REBELS(15), MUS_ZEALOTS(5)" TRIPOLI "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(55)" "{HORSE_BREEDER4,BOWYER4}" "ATTACKER, AMBUSH, MISSILE,STRONG, ANTI_MISSILE, CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS NO "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( MTLG ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 4 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 6 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 6 ), AMMO( 28 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "TURKSCAV, YES, YES, EHorse" TURKISH TURKISH "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(2), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

LithuanianCavalry CAVALRY 225 10 1 0 80 40 1 OK "ORTH_LOYALISTS(5), ORTH_REBELS(15), ORTH_ZEALOTS(5), ORTH_BANDITS(5), ORTH_HERETICS(5)" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(125), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(22)" "{ HORSE_BREEDER4, ARMOURER3, SWORDSMITH3 }" "ATTACKER, ANTI_INFANTRY, CAVALRY" "HIGH, LATE" YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( NO ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 6 ), MELEE_BONUS( 2 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 3 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 2 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "EEUROCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" ALL_FACTIONS LITHUANIA "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

PolishRetainer CAVALRY 300 12 1 0 80 40 1 OK "CATH_BANDITS(2), CATH_HERETICS(5), CATH_ZEALOTS(10), CATH_LOYALISTS(15), CATH_PEASANTS(5),CATH_REBELS(10)" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(50), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(30)" { HORSE_BREEDER2 } "ATTACKER, ANTI_INFANTRY, CAVALRY" "HIGH, LATE" YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( NO ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 3 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "EEUROCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" POLISH POLAND "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

Gendarmes CAVALRY 400 14 2 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "CATH_HERETICS(10), CATH_LOYALISTS(5), CATH_REBELS(5)" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(40)" "{ TOWN_WATCH4, SWORDSMITH4 }" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" LATE YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 4 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "PLATECAV, YES, YES, KHorse" "FRENCH, ITALIAN, SPANISH, BURGUNDIAN" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

ChivalricKnights CAVALRY 875 17 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "CATH_HERETICS(5), CATH_ZEALOTS(10), ORTH_HERETICS(5), ORTH_LOYALISTS(10), ORTH_REBELS(5), ORTH_ZEALOTS(0)" FRENCH TOULOUSE "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(87)" "{ ROYAL_COURT3, ARMOURER3, HORSE_BREEDER3 }" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" "HIGH, LATE" YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 5 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 8 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "PLATECAV, YES, YES, KHorse" "ARAGONESE, BURGUNDIAN" "ARAGONESE, BURGUNDIAN, DANISH, ENGLISH, FRENCH, GERMAN_HRE, HUNGARIAN, ITALIAN, PAPIST, POLISH, RUSSIAN, SICILIAN, SPANISH, SWISS" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

Hobilar CAVALRY 150 10 1 0 80 40 1 OK "CATH_BANDITS(15), CATH_HERETICS(15), CATH_PEASANTS(15), CATH_REBELS(10), ENG_BANDITS(15)" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(200), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(15)" {HORSE_BREEDER} "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 110 ), RADIUS( 45 ), SCALE( 125 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( NO ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 6 ), MELEE_BONUS( 2 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 2 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 3 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 2 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "LARMWCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" "BURGUNDIAN, ENGLISH, FRENCH" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

KhwarazmianCavalry CAVALRY 375 14 1 0 80 40 1 OK "MUS_LOYALISTS(0), MUS_ZEALOTS(5)" TURKISH "POVERTY_STRICKEN(10), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(37)" "{HORSE_BREEDER4, SPEARMAKER4}" "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 6 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 5 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 7 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "SMAILCAV, YES, YES, EHorse" "EGYPTIAN, GOLDEN_HORDE, TURKISH" "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

OttomanSipahi CAVALRY 200 13 1 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED "MUS_BANDITS(5), MUS_LOYALISTS(0), MUS_REBELS(5)" "EDESSA, RUM" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(150), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(20)" { HORSE_BREEDER3} "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" LATE YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( NO ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 4 ), MELEE_BONUS( 2 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 3 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 2 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "TURKSCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" TURKISH "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

MamlukCavalry CAVALRY 275 14 2 0 80 40 1 PREFERRED MUS_REBELS(10) EGYPT "POVERTY_STRICKEN(75), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(27)" { HORSE_BREEDER2 } "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" "HIGH, LATE" YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 4 ), MELEE_BONUS( 2 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 3 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "SMAILCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" EGYPTIAN "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

ArmenianHeavyCavalry CAVALRY 300 12 1 0 80 40 1 OK "MUS_LOYALISTS(0), MUS_REBELS(10), ORTH_LOYALISTS(5), ORTH_REBELS(5), ORTH_ZEALOTS(5)" ARMENIA "POVERTY_STRICKEN(50), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(30)" {HORSE_BREEDER2} "ATTACKER,AMBUSH,ANTI_MISSILE,CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 125 ), RADIUS( 50 ), SCALE( 138 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( YES ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 20 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 22 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 115 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 125 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 8 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 3 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "MAILHCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" TURKISH "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(0), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),

AlanMercenaryCavalry CAVALRY 175 10 1 0 80 40 1 DISCOURAGED "ORTH_BANDITS(15), ORTH_LOYALISTS(5), ORTH_REBELS(15)" "POVERTY_STRICKEN(175), DESPERATE_DEFENCE(10), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST(120), CATHOLIC_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER(100), CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER(120), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER(80), POPE(50), CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE(80), CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST(50), ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE(80), ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST(120), ORTHODOX_STAGNANT(100), MUSLIM_PEACEFUL(100), MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST(120), MUSLIM_DEVOUT(120), BARBARIAN_RAIDER(160), REBELS(100), CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT(17)" "ATTACKER, AMBUSH, MISSILE, CAVALRY" ALL_PERIODS YES "HEIGHT( 110 ), RADIUS( 45 ), SCALE( 125 ), PROJECTILE_TYPE( NONE ), SAMURAI( NO ), MARCH_SPEED( 9 ), RUN_SPEED( 24 ), CHARGE_SPEED( 26 ), MIN_TURNSPEED( 2 ), MAX_TURNSPEED( 8 ), TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED( 8 ), MAX_INMOTION_TURN( 96 ), FORMATION_WIDTH_SPACING( 145 ), FORMATION_LENGTH_SPACING( 145 ), ENGAGEMENT_THRESHOLD( 2000 ), CHARGE_BONUS( 6 ), MELEE_BONUS( 3 ), DEFENCE_BONUS( 1 ), ARMOUR_LEVEL( 3 ), HONOUR_LEVEL( 4 ), AMMO( 0 ), FORMATIONS_PREFERRED_NUM_ROWS( 4 )" NO "own_unit_tooltip1, own_unit_tooltip2, other_unit_tooltip1, other_unit_tooltip2" HORSE "PESTUCAV, YES, YES, LiHorse" ALL_FACTIONS "Missile, Shocktroop, Spear, Cavalry" "SKIRMISH(2), ADVANCE_PARTY(1),


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I am the law and you can't beat the law.

[Kamui_Imagawa]

Quote Originally posted by Rocket_Boy:
Do you really think so? I thought they were really poor in comparison to the royal knights that the player controls. However I believe from what others have posted that the Kataphratoic appear early in the game and are very powerful at that point. I think that in later periods they are eclipsed by the emergence of powerful knights from the western nations. However they do look pretty cool I must admit.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but your knights have a far higher honour than them and besides, Kataphractoi are infantry killers...and personally i think they're cool!


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The assasin of night is a dangerous foe, the assasin of day is extremely dangerous

[Nobunaga0611]

Quote Originally posted by Loras:
cavalry be correct http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif calvary is the place of the skull i think...something like that anyway.

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Thats actually Golgotha (spelling?), but you were close enough http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

[NagatsukaShumi]

I think the Holy Roman Empire's cavalry will be a very powerful cavalry unit.