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Zim
08-16-2007, 05:41
Faction: Scotland
Difficulty: H/VH
House Rules:
Each player has three days to acknowledge receipt of save game, and up to a week to finish their reign(obviously barring any real life difficulties or emergencies). Otherwise their reign will be pushed back a turn.
-20 year reigns
-No more than one mercenary unit per army
-2 units maximum (not counting agents) per ship
-Attempt to average no more than nine territorial conquests per game(gotta have things for every player to do! ~:) )
-Each player should do a writeup of some sort for his campaign

Active Player List:
Zim
YAKOBU
Econ21-Current Player
Ramses II CP
Elite Ferret
Ignoramus

I think we have pretty much everything. I'm least sure about the idea of a succession style game, and moding the years per turn(easy to do, but some may not want to mod their games). I'd like to get the first reign started this weekend if possible.

Turns Played
Zim-1st turn
Warmaster Horus- 2nd turn
Yakobu- 3rd turn
Econ21- 4rth turn
Ramses II CP-5th turn
Elite Ferret-6th turn
Ignoramus-7th turn
Yakobu-8th turn
Zim-9th turn

econ21
08-16-2007, 12:22
Sounds good - sign me up. :2thumbsup:

Warmaster Horus
08-16-2007, 14:10
Looks good for now. Modding the game for 1 year per turn is really only a question of personal preference. I don't mind, so it's no problem whatever's chosen.

We were talking about 10 or 20 turns per play, right? Or is it going to be a full reign?

Zim
08-16-2007, 20:50
Looks good for now. Modding the game for 1 year per turn is really only a question of personal preference. I don't mind, so it's no problem whatever's chosen.

We were talking about 10 or 20 turns per play, right? Or is it going to be a full reign?

:sweatdrop: When you said a succession game in my first thread, I thought you were asking for full king's reigns. I've been trying to avoid changing it because I thought the first person to reply to my thread wanted to do full reigns.

I like twenty turn reigns for each player in RTW and MTW2. We don't even need to change the turns per year then(with full reigns I feared we might run out of turns before every player went up).

If there's no objection, I'll switch to twenty year reigns.

Glad to have you in the game, Econ21.

Zim
08-18-2007, 04:34
Well, barring any objections, I'll start the first reign on Sunday. :2thumbsup:

Warmaster Horus
08-18-2007, 08:52
Okay. Have fun!

YAKOBU
08-18-2007, 10:35
I eagerly await your update.

:charge:

Zim
08-19-2007, 23:52
Hey everyone,
it looks like I'll be housesitting for a friend for one more day and his computer isn't up to MTW2. If it's ok with everyone I should be able to both finish my reign and put up the writeup by Monday night(or Tuesday morning for those of you in Europe). :sweatdrop:

YAKOBU
08-20-2007, 00:21
Hi Zim ~:wave:

Glad you are still with us. :sweatdrop:

Just a question before I get to my turn. Do I need to mod the game from vanilla 1.2 at all? Is it 20 turn or 20 year reigns? If 20 years do I need to mod?

Thanks and good luck.

:charge:

Zim
08-21-2007, 02:47
Ok, my reign's finished. Things went fairly well. I mostly took it easy, expanding slowly and setting up alliances. Tried to build up Inverness, but it's pretty lame, as castle's go. YAKOBU, I decided not to bother messing with the rate at which years go, since we're not playing full reigns. It's 20 turns per person.

Here's a map of the world, in the year of our Lord, "Turn 20".
https://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8074/fowlc0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Our current situation
Regions: Edinburgh, Inverness and Dublin.
Agents: We have two diplomats, one around Rome, and one around Frankfurt, plus a spy near York.
Allies:England, France, Spain, Milan and the Papacy.
Missions:Crusade to Jerusalem, with six turns to build a crusading army.
Council of Nobles mission to take Wales, with 15 or so turns.

The save file is here: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/

The name is PBMScots21.zip . Warning, you will have to dig through a lot of KOTR files to find it. :dizzy2:

I'll work on the writeup over the course of the evening, then make a writeups thread for it.

Ignoramus
08-21-2007, 03:22
Click on "Last Modified" a couple of times, that should make it much easier.

Zim
08-21-2007, 03:25
Almost forgot to mention, Warmaster Horus is next on the list.
I'll remember that, Ignoramus. :2thumbsup:

Zim
08-21-2007, 08:44
Ok, I have the first writeup done. :2thumbsup:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1645351#post1645351

Warmaster Horus
08-21-2007, 08:54
Alright, I'm not sure I'll be able to continue before... thursday, probably. I'll most likely be finished saturday, so you'd expect a write-up then.

Zim
08-22-2007, 08:19
Alright, I'm not sure I'll be able to continue before... thursday, probably. I'll most likely be finished saturday, so you'd expect a write-up then.

Sounds good, can't wait to see it.

Zim
08-24-2007, 19:10
Bump, and also: How's it going, Warmaster Horus? Is the save working ok? I reinstalled the game(plus the 1.2 patch) from scratch before playing my turn just to be safe.

Warmaster Horus
08-24-2007, 19:16
I've got it, and I played it. I'm now trying to learn how to use Imageshack (well, I was about to, anyway). I said you could anticipate an update tomorrow, and tomorrow an update you shall have.

Update: Well, none today, at least, due to the fact that I have no tangible way of transfering the save and the pics from my laptop (upon which I play M2) to my family's computer (which I'm using now, and which has an internet connection). I'm getting a new USB key monday (I lost mine, gah, it was only 256Mb anyway) and you'll have to expect an update then. Sorry!

YAKOBU
08-26-2007, 19:15
Hi guys ~:wave:

Hope you are all enjoying your weekends.

Just a note: I am off to Tenerife :sharky: for 2 weeks a week on Tuesday but am happy to play my reign before I go or when I get back.

Hope this can be fitted in with everyone?

:charge:

Warmaster Horus
08-27-2007, 19:38
Okay: here it is: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/PBMScots41.rar

As you can see, it's a .rar file, so if Ignoramus has a problem with it... I can upload a zip one.

Write-up pending until I've got more time.

Briefly: I conquered Caervanon, Jerusalem. Jerusalem revolted and I took the army to conquer Acre, so we've got a foothold in the Holy Land. Not the one we wanted, but still...

We're receiving tributes from a few guys (Russia and I forgot who else). We've got a large-ish army in Acre and another in Edinburgh. Oh, by the way, I had to recruit mercenaries in the Holy Land to keep Jerusalem from rebelling, but the city did anyway. So Acre has a half-dozen Scottish troops and about the same amount of mercenaries. I realize this offends one of the rules above, but I had no real choice. Acre is safe, 150% happiness.

We don't have a navy, although mercenaries and cogs can be recruited if necessary.

I did my utmost to please the Pope, that's why there are a churches in every settlement.


Ignoramus is the next player.

TinCow
08-27-2007, 22:17
I was surfing through the various Throne Room threads for the Throne Room article in the September Gahzette. I was very pleased to see how well this game is coming. I've missed reading succession games for a long time now. Zim, you've done an excellent job with the write-up and I hope this game keeps going right through to the end.

Zim
08-28-2007, 07:30
Thanks, Tincow, I know I'm not the best writer on the forums, but I always try. I mised the succesion games too, that's why I tarted one. :beam:

YAKOBU, have fun on your vacation. By the time you come back the next two people will probably have jut about wrapped up their reigns, so your should be waiting for you.

Warmaster Horus, sounds good. :2thumbsup: I'm not too worried about the mercenary thing. THe rule was mainly to prevent the sack, hire mercenaries, sack cycle that some people use to blitz.

If you think the next peron will finish their reign before you do a writeup, could you put place saving post in the IC thread? That way nothing gets out of order.

Ignoramus
08-28-2007, 11:07
Right, I'll pick up the save and get playing.

This is actually a new experience for me, as despite being part of WotS and KotR, I have never participated in an original succession PBM.

YAKOBU
09-02-2007, 14:49
Hi guys ~:wave:

Just a quick note to confirm I am flying on 04/09 to Tenerife :sharky: and will be back on 19/09. Good luck in the PBEM while I am away.

Also I bought Kingdoms from EB today but don't know when I will play it. Will it affect our PBEM if I have it installed before my turn?

:charge:

Warmaster Horus
09-02-2007, 17:27
I don't think it will. I guess it installs in a way to avoid changing the core files, so...

As for my write-up, which I believe is what we're waiting for, might take some more time. I've had difficulties within my family last week, and since I'm starting school again in a couple of days... But, I'll do my best.

Zim
09-11-2007, 10:27
Hey everyone. I've been trying to avoid rushing anyone, especially since one of the next few people is on vacation for a while(figured Yakobu could use the extra time if a turn or two took a while), but I'm pming Ignoramus to see if there's a problem preventing his playing his reign. If so we might go to the next people.

Just want to let people know I am indeed dedicated to finishing this PBEM, in case my absence lately has been otherwise interpreted. If Ignoramus can't play his reign for a while, I'll contact Bob_the_great to go first.

Warmaster Horus, I understand about both family problems(had them aplenty a few years ago and again now) and school(especially as someone who worked his way through school up to this last semester). If you could just write a few sentences like "such and such happened during my reign. I conquered this province, lost this one, earned the enmity of this nation, etc." it'd be nice. If not, that's fine, too. :yes: I just graduated from college and still had trouble finding time to write(made up by writing quickly but poorly, I'm afraid). Things like this go on the back burner when real life issues occur, of course.

Thanks for participating, everyone. :2thumbsup:

Ignoramus
09-11-2007, 10:38
Sorry for the slow progress guys. I've almost finished it, and should be done soon.

Warmaster Horus
09-11-2007, 11:24
Eh, I'm really, really, really sorry I was unable to take care of it yet. This afternoon, at around 4 GMT (give or take some time), I'll take care of it. However, it will be short.

And I'll resign from this after I've done the write up. I'm more busy than I expected to be, and it will be difficult to do another reign, to do another write up.

Again, sorry.

Edit: okay, sorry once more, the write up will have to wait 'til tomorrow morning. Schoolwork was problematic, tonight.

Zim
09-11-2007, 11:34
Eh, I'm really, really, really sorry I was unable to take care of it yet. This afternoon, at around 4 GMT (give or take some time), I'll take care of it. However, it will be short.

And I'll resign from this after I've done the write up. I'm more busy than I expected to be, and it will be difficult to do another reign, to do another write up.

Again, sorry.

That's fine. I'm just happy you've played a reign. Just wanted to make sure noone thought I'd forgotten the PBEM. :beam:

Zim
09-11-2007, 11:35
Sorry for the slow progress guys. I've almost finished it, and should be done soon.

:2thumbsup: That's ok, just wanted to make sure nothing wrong had happened.

_Tristan_
09-11-2007, 13:02
Eh, I'm really, really, really sorry I was unable to take care of it yet. This afternoon, at around 4 GMT (give or take some time), I'll take care of it. However, it will be short.

And I'll resign from this after I've done the write up. I'm more busy than I expected to be, and it will be difficult to do another reign, to do another write up.

Again, sorry.

If you're losing one player, does it mean it frees up one slot...

If so, could I join ?

Never played a succession game before but I think I might give it a go...

English not being my native tongue, I may be a bit slack on the write-up thingy but will try to do my best...

Zim
09-11-2007, 13:57
If you're losing one player, does it mean it frees up one slot...

If so, could I join ?

Never played a succession game before but I think I might give it a go...

English not being my native tongue, I may be a bit slack on the write-up thingy but will try to do my best...

You're welcome to join. I'm not a great writer in English either (despite being a native speaker), so that's no problem.

_Tristan_
09-11-2007, 14:07
Ok keep me posted...

Btw, what version are you playing ?
Having installed Kingdoms, my version is stated as 1.4 (1.3 compatible IIRC), so if you're still on 1.2, I won't be playing as it would disrupt your game, unless you all updated ... And that's another matter...

So keep me posted...

econ21
09-11-2007, 14:09
Also I bought Kingdoms from EB today but don't know when I will play it. Will it affect our PBEM if I have it installed before my turn?


Yes, it will. If a player with 1.3 takes up the save, those with only 1.2 will not be able to load it thereafter.

I think we need to make a decision about whether to patch the game to 1.3. I propose we should at some point (e.g. when the first Kingdoms player has a reign), if only to be friendly to people with Kingdoms. Otherwise, they have to uninstall M2TW and reinstall if they want to play this PBM - I've just done that for KotR and it's a pain. I am not sure I want to do it again in a month's time for this PBM.

There is a free 1.3 patch available, so people without Kingdoms can keep up to date and interact with those who have it (e.g. in multiplayer and new PBMs). Unfortunately, the patch does not seem to do much beyond that but for PBMers being able to interact is important - otherwise we will end up dividing the small pool of PBMers into two, those with Kingdoms and those without, making each half poorer.

_Tristan_
09-11-2007, 14:15
@ ECon21 : Thx for the update...

Do not mind me for the moment, as I'm last to come to this PBM, you shouldn't have to install 1.3 until some time has passed...

I totally agree with you on the need for everybody to play on a similar version so as not to divide our numbers without need...

Warmaster Horus
09-12-2007, 18:46
D'okay. It's done, more or less. In the next few days, I'll insert a couple of picts to embellish it. You can find it replacing my saving post in the write up thread.

Oh, and if anyone read it, guess who the monk represents?

YAKOBU
09-19-2007, 23:39
Hi everyone ~:wave:

Just to let you all know I'm back from Tenerife today and ready, willing and able...........when you need me.

Thanks for the advice econ21; I will need to play from 1.3 if it fits in with everyone else?

:charge:

Zim
09-21-2007, 09:08
Hello, Yakobu. ~:) I'll pm Ignoramus to see if he's ok.

I don't think anyone's played the save with Kingdoms yet, but if they do we'll all need to download the patch.

Warmaster Horus
09-29-2007, 16:24
So how's Ignoramus? It's been a long time. Oh, and as for the supposed to come pics for my write up, don't expect them. I don't have time enough for that. Sorry!

YAKOBU
09-29-2007, 18:25
Hello everyone ~:wave:

I keep checking the Throne Room for progress. Is this another PBM that is going to fall by the wayside? I have participated in a few PBM's in my time on the org and there is so much original enthusiasm and yet after only a few players the PBM's usually start to stutter. Looking back at the write-ups it seems nothing has happened in a month. Are we going to get this back on track or give it a decent burial? :skull:

:charge:

_Tristan_
09-29-2007, 19:19
I sure hope it's still on track... Is it ?

Zim
10-02-2007, 09:39
Warmaster Horus, He seems to be indisposed lately. I pmed him something like a week ago and no reply. :sweatdrop:

YAKOBU, Tristan, I plan on finishing this as long as there's at least one other person willing to taketurns. :yes:

Since Ignoramus seems to be unable to take his turn at the moment, I'll pm Bob_the_great. If he can't play, Yakobu is up next.

As of this moment, I don't think anyone with Kingdoms or 1.3 has played the save, so it's safe for all of us backward 1.2 players. ~;)

YAKOBU
10-02-2007, 09:45
Hi Zim ~:wave:

Thanks for the update.

As I'm on Kingdoms will we all be able to move to that on my turn?

:charge:

_Tristan_
10-02-2007, 09:58
I'm on Kingdoms also

But I'm a bit tied up at the moment so I hope one or two players can take the save first...

Ferret
10-02-2007, 17:10
I'm also on 1.3 and will be tied up untill next week, but then I should have a lot of time on my hands.

Zim
10-03-2007, 10:07
YAKOBU, No problem. I'm sorry I haven't been around more. Since patch 1.3 makes games compatible with Kingdoms I imagine there won't be any problems.

Tristan de Castelreng, There should at least be a couple people going before.

Bob_the_great, Sounds good to me. Would it be possible for you to finish by the end of next week? I'm worried I let things lag behind to much.

Ferret
10-03-2007, 17:56
So it's my turn now? If so then I should be able to finish by the end of next week although the write up may take a bit longer.

Zim
10-05-2007, 08:34
So it's my turn now? If so then I should be able to finish by the end of next week although the write up may take a bit longer.

Yep, it looks like the one person left in front of you won't be completing their turn, so you're next. Personally, after a month or so of not even a single turn being finished, I'll be very happy if we can get this thing going in the next week or so. :2thumbsup:

YAKOBU
10-05-2007, 10:16
Don't worry Zim, if things stall again I am definately free to take my turn! :2thumbsup:

:charge:

Ferret
10-05-2007, 22:55
Alrite I should start this weekend

Zim
10-13-2007, 04:02
Hey all, just wanted to say that I bought Kingdoms a couple of days ago(is that all of us?), and to check to make sure everything's going ok.

YAKOBU
10-13-2007, 11:59
Hi Zim ~:wave:

That's great news and good to see you are joining the New Spain PBM. :2thumbsup:

:charge:

Zim
10-15-2007, 07:28
Hi Zim ~:wave:

That's great news and good to see you are joining the New Spain PBM. :2thumbsup:

:charge:

Thanks. I'm looking forward to that one, Kingdoms seems to be a great expansion. :knight:

I have to admit, I mostly posted that as an excuse to bump the thread, and see if Bob_the_great had started his turn. It's been about ten days, so I'll pm him tonight.

YAKOBU
10-15-2007, 11:23
It is now my turn in the New Spain PBM but as I am the second in line it is early days and shouldn't take long.

I will complete my turn on that by the weekend and will then be free for this if needed.

:charge:

Zim
10-17-2007, 00:33
It is now my turn in the New Spain PBM but as I am the second in line it is early days and shouldn't take long.

I will complete my turn on that by the weekend and will then be free for this if needed.

:charge:

Ok. It looks like Bob_the_Great may not be able to finish his turn at the moment, so you can play the next turn when you're ready.

YAKOBU
10-18-2007, 00:50
Hi Zim ~:wave:

Can you just clarify that Bob_the_Great will not finish his turn. You have put may not which means to me that it could still be a possibility.

If so then I will complete my turn this weekend as I will have my New Spain PBM turn resolved by Friday.

:charge:

Zim
10-18-2007, 09:30
We spoke via pm and he oked moving to the next person(can't play for a while because of time issues), so you're up. :yes:

Zim
10-18-2007, 21:17
Did anyone else notice we made the last two issues of the Gahzette? Old news, I know, but I hadn't noticed before.

Anywho, Yakobu, you're cleared to start whenever you can. In the meantime, I'm going to pm the other players and see who is still able to play.Seems prudent after all the delays. :sweatdrop:

Ferret
10-18-2007, 22:29
That's probably because Warmaster Horus did the report :).

Edit: oops my mistake, TinCow did.

Zim
10-18-2007, 22:54
That's probably because Warmaster Horus did the report :).

Edit: oops my mistake, TinCow did.

Tincow did actually mention something in this thread earlier, I just didn't know he was going to write a real article on it. I think he did a better summary of my campaign that I did. :sweatdrop:

Would you still like to play a turn in this campaign eventually when time is less of an issue, Bob_the_great? I could put you after YAKOBU, at the end of the list, or take you off if you don't think you can play a turn.

econ21
10-19-2007, 09:52
It might be good to update the playlist in the first post - i.e. remove those who have dropped out and present the current order of play.

I'm happy to stay on the playlist for now, although KotR is taking a lot of my time.

Ferret
10-19-2007, 16:32
I would like to remain on the playlist but I will be on holiday next week and have my mock GCSEs the week after so I may have to take my turn a while from now unfortuantely :(.

YAKOBU
10-19-2007, 17:30
Hi everyone ~:wave:

I'm looking to start my turn late tonight or tomorrow. I won't be home for a few hours but does anyone know if there is anything I should know about downloading .rar files? I have only uploaded/downloaded zip files before.

Cheers.

:charge:

econ21
10-19-2007, 17:38
...does anyone know if there is anything I should know about downloading .rar files?

The program (Powerarchvier) that I use to unzip files does not work on .rar. So I downloaded a demonstration version of Winrar that I use to unpack saves in .rar format.

YAKOBU
10-19-2007, 18:23
Cheers econ21 ~:wave:

My my that traffic was light tonight. 45 minutes and I expected 1 hour 30 minutes minimum. More time for my PBM's. :laugh4:

:charge:

Zim
10-19-2007, 20:47
Econ21, I updated the play list showing what turn we're on as well.

Bob_the_great, I put you at the end of the list for now. Good luck with your...exams...I'm assuming? I remember many a sleepless night(or several nights) before exams when I was back in college ( I suddenly feel old...).

YAKOBU, good luck with your turn! Obviously, whichever higher being/s you believe in(or luck if none) are trying to make sure you start ASAP! ~;)

YAKOBU
10-19-2007, 23:34
Hi Zim ~:wave:

As you may have noticed I've just completed my New Spain turn and posted my write-up. Woohoo you are only 1 turn away now! :laugh4:

It's 11.30pm here but I will open up the Scottish save game and get a feel for where we stand and plan my course of action for the weekend.

I will update soon.

:charge:

YAKOBU
10-21-2007, 19:12
Hi everyone ~:wave:

I have now completed my turn; posted my write-up; and PM'ed econ21.

The save file is PBMScots61.zip.

I have kept good relations with everyone apart from Denmark as they blockaded us twice. The Pope accepted our crusade to take Antwerp when they got excommunicated.

I did make a mistake as in the heat of the moment I sailed 13 units on 3 boats for the crusade. :wall: Although I did immediately disband our excess mercenaries in Acre at the start of my turns. :2thumbsup:

Good luck in your turns.

:charge:

econ21
10-21-2007, 21:17
Taking the save! :driver:

Zim
10-21-2007, 22:37
:2thumbsup: Wow, that was quick! I'm off to read the writeup right now. :book:

Good luck, Econ21

YAKOBU
10-21-2007, 23:06
2 PBM turns in 4 days, I'm :Zzzz:

:charge:

econ21
10-26-2007, 23:51
Well, I had a fairly quiet 20 turn stint. I'll produce a write-up at some stage, but I think all I did was take Antwerp for the crusade on the first turn. Outremer was attacked by the Egyptians almost as soon as I started playing. It was a little hairy, as our armies there were thin. However, the situation has stablised now and there is an army forming north of Acre to take Edessa, as per a Council of Nobles quest.

I've started building merchants and priests in Outremer and that probably should continue.

We are the most advanced faction and I think have held up our relations with most others.

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/scots81.zip

econ21
10-27-2007, 01:13
I think we may have reached the end of the playlist for now. Tristan is preoccupied with (good) real life stuff. Bob the Great is on vacation and then has exams, so will be out of action for a while.

Any volunteers want to join this PBM?

If not, maybe we should recycle through the playlist - interested, Zim?

At the moment, it is not very demanding as the Kingdom is small and fairly peaceful.

Ramses II CP
10-27-2007, 02:40
I'm still sorting out my next AAR, if you've hit the end of your list I'd be happy to take 20 turns and write it up unless one of the original joiners wants a second shot. I'll check back tomorrow.

:egypt:

Zim
10-27-2007, 05:04
Ramses II CP, you're welcome to take the next turn if you'd like.

econ21 After his turn I think we'll start at the beginning of the playlist again, if noone minds taking another turn.

YAKOBU
10-27-2007, 10:36
Let's go round again.......................:cheerleader:

:charge:

Ferret
10-27-2007, 11:41
okay I'm back and will be ready for my turn as soon as November starts, or later if other people want to go before me, I don't mind.

Ramses II CP
10-27-2007, 14:38
I can probably have it done fairly quickly, my daughter is visiting the grandparents this weekend.

What's the save name? I'll get started later today.

Ferret
10-27-2007, 15:00
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/scots81.zip

the link is here :2thumbsup:

Ramses II CP
10-29-2007, 01:56
Played through 100 and saved it after the faction announcements on 101:

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/scots101.zip

I'll have my write-up done sometime this week. The short form:

Egypt is on the run and down to Jedda and the one far south of Cairo, though they've just blockaded one of our ports.

Sicily was excommunicated and crusaded into oblivion. Durazzo and Ajaccio were gifted to the Papacy, but Palermo is ours.

Offered the Danes peace in exchange for Helsinki, so don't forget to check on her way over in the north east. Danes are now down to Arhus as the Poles and English smashed them.

Exchanged maps and explored so that our current map should be 95% correct. Found the Mongols and put a spy near them at Yerevan, where they're still dithering around. Sent diplomats to most of our major allies. Marriage alliance with the French, and refreshed one with the English. Our reputation is still trustworthy, we have six Cardinals in the College, and our financial situation is solid.

Fun stuff. :beam:

:egypt:

Zim
10-29-2007, 06:59
:2thumbsup: Sounds good, Ramses.

Bob the Great, if you're still able to play in early November, you're welcome to take the last slot, then we can start the list over.

Ferret
10-29-2007, 10:15
Okay taking the save now, should get some done today, and the rest by early Nov.

Zim
10-30-2007, 07:39
Great writeups, Yakobu and Ramses II CP! :2thumbsup:

I've updated the active player list, as well as the one of turns played so far.

Now that we've reached the last person in the list, perhaps we should ditch the list of rules? They were mainly meant to prevent over rapid expansion and allow everyone to play a turn, neither of which is a concern now. It might be better to let everyone expand at whatever pace they want now.

P.S. Econ21, now that we've gotten so far, is there any chance of this PBM making the "List of PBMs Completed and In-Progress"?

Ignoramus
10-31-2007, 03:21
If you're willing to give me another chance, I am willing to have another stint. My problem last time was that I took the roleplaying too seriously, and was writing four stories per turn, which took hours.

econ21
10-31-2007, 11:28
Econ21, now that we've gotten so far, is there any chance of this PBM making the "List of PBMs Completed and In-Progress"?

Yes - good point. I've updated that list, as we have a fair number of other PBMs making some progress.

Ferret
10-31-2007, 21:55
Phew, done and uploaded:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/scots120.zip
I think my reign has been the worst Scotland has ever seen :P
Write up to follow as soon as I get time.

Zim
10-31-2007, 23:26
If you're willing to give me another chance, I am willing to have another stint. My problem last time was that I took the roleplaying too seriously, and was writing four stories per turn, which took hours.

You could take the next if you'd like. :yes:

YAKOBU
11-03-2007, 15:30
Hi everyone ~:wave:

This is confusing...........I assume Elite Ferret was Bob_the_great. If so can we change his name on the player list.

Any news on Ignoramus or is someone else taking the next turn?

:charge:

Ferret
11-03-2007, 15:58
yeah sorry about that, it says in my sig but my old posts don't have that sig :)

Zim
11-04-2007, 02:41
I changed the names on the player's list.

As far as I know, Ignoramus will play the next turn. If he can't play it(or doesn't respond in this thread in the next few days) I guess we'll have to start the list over and I'll go.

Ramses II CP
11-04-2007, 16:30
Well, I'm still going to call you Bob. :p

Hope I didn't leave you with too many expenses, the economy was going pretty well and Palermo could've made a good place to put the capital to keep loyalty up. It's probably good to have things slide back a little, Kyle's reign was a bit too lucky.

:egypt:

Zim
11-07-2007, 08:09
Ok, I'll pm Ignoramus right now to see if he's still playing the turn. If not, then I guess we start the list over.

Zim
11-07-2007, 23:14
No response so far. To keep things from stalling I'll download the save and play a turn. If Ignoramus doesn't get back to me on whether he still wants to play, then my run through the turn will be the official one (I'm next in line if we have to restart the list).

Zim
11-08-2007, 05:36
Phew, done and uploaded:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/scots120.zip
I think my reign has been the worst Scotland has ever seen :P
Write up to follow as soon as I get time.

Correction, Elite Ferret, your reign is at the least going to be no more than the second worst Scotland has seen, the way mine is going. ~;p

Ignoramus
11-08-2007, 06:07
I'll play. I've been very busy with a battle in KOTR, but I have finished that and ready to get cracking.

Zim
11-08-2007, 07:09
I'll play. I've been very busy with a battle in KOTR, but I have finished that and ready to get cracking.

Great! :2thumbsup:
Good luck, things start out a bit tough.

Ferret
11-08-2007, 18:51
hehe, sorry I just couldn't resist declaring war on the mongols :)

Zim
11-08-2007, 22:55
hehe, sorry I just couldn't resist declaring war on the mongols :)

And everybody else in the Middle East?! ~;p

Ferret
11-08-2007, 23:13
lol well they were the only faction that I declared war on, IIRC lol.it was just so tempting having stacks and stacks nearby asking to be implanted on stakes, that reminds me I need to get started on my write up, I'm still deciding which screens to use out of my 144 :beam:.

Zim
11-08-2007, 23:38
lol well they were the only faction that I declared war on, IIRC lol.it was just so tempting having stacks and stacks nearby asking to be implanted on stakes, that reminds me I need to get started on my write up, I'm still deciding which screens to use out of my 144 :beam:.

:laugh4: That's my probem with my writeup for my Spanish game. I can't even play ten turns without at least 100 screenshots, let alone 20. Gonna finally sort through them today.

Zim
11-12-2007, 09:43
Just checking to see if there's any news from Ignoramus on his turn.

Ignoramus
11-13-2007, 07:15
I should be finished by Saturday. I'm finding as the campaign progresses, it's taking longer to get through.

Zim
11-13-2007, 07:20
I should be finished by Saturday. I'm finding as the campaign progresses, it's taking longer to get through.

I noticed that when I looked at the save. It's especially hard with so many enemies and our territories so spread out. I can also see now why KOTR can take up so much of your time. Since joining I've been taking forever just catching up on the history thread! :clown:

It doesn't matter so much now how long the turn takes. It's just that after a few dropped players I've learned to check in from time to time.

Zim
11-15-2007, 00:31
Just a short announcement here.
Ignoramus has said he can finish by Sunday. I might give him an extra week or so. I saw the save myself and there are a lot of battles to deal with.

Since our empire is so big now, and getting the next 20 or so settlements we need to win before running out of turns will take careful planning, I'm going to give players more leeway on the length of their turns. As long as they check in once a week to state they're still playing the turn, players can have about three weeks each.

Also, Yakobu and I have switched places in the Order queue, putting him next after Ignoramus. If anyone else wants bumped up, they can also go ahead of me.

Cheers ~:cheers:
Zim

Zim
11-20-2007, 00:14
Just a reminder, Ignoramus. You're two weeks into the three week turn. If you can't finish before next Sunday, I'll have to let Yakobu take the turn. This isn't meant to be mean. I just have to keep things going lest the PBM die.

YAKOBU
11-22-2007, 21:33
Not sure what is happening with Ignoramus but he was online today but not responding in this thread?

:charge:

Zim
11-23-2007, 03:24
Not sure what is happening with Ignoramus but he was online today but not responding in this thread?

:charge:

I know he's been active in the forum, because my KOTR character works for him! :laugh4:

Anyhow, it's Thursday here for me, 3 days left and I'll ask him to post whatever he has for his save. I don't think I can give more than three weeks for a turn, even with a largish empire.

Ignoramus
11-24-2007, 03:06
Save uploaded.

I could only manage 13 turns.

YAKOBU
11-24-2007, 10:59
Cheers Ignoramus ~:wave:

Will you be posting a write-up?

For everyone else here are some pics of the current position.

https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/199/0000sp8.th.jpg (https://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0000sp8.jpg)https://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2980/0001ss4.th.jpg (https://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0001ss4.jpg)

It looks like I am in for a bit of a challenge.

We are on turn 133 with 93 turns to go.

We hold 23 regions but need 45 for victory and some of our regions are under threat.

We have a meager 1,183 florins in the treasury.

We have no crosses with the pope and are allied to the French and Russia whilst being at war with England, Milan, Turks and Poland.

My aims:


We currently have 12 cities and 11 castles. I intend to reduce the number of castles so we have better economic cities and some free garrisons.


We don't seem to have any clear armies but a smattering of smaller ones. I will consolidate these and have them responsible for a number of regions each.


I want to shorten our borders. This means taking Caen from the English (where's their capital?); Frankfurt from the Polish; and possible Marseille from the French (this is their capital and potentially only settlement but they are our allies).
Once the above are complete I will look at what opportunites we have for further growth.



As we are on turn 133 do you want me to play to turn 150? This will potentially leave 4 more players 20 turns each.

Wish me luck.

P.S. It's my 40th today :drama1: and I have a little cold :nurse: so may be tomorrow before I start my reign.

:charge:

YAKOBU
11-24-2007, 14:52
Hi everyone ~:wave:

I'm a little confused. All across my empire the unit sizes seems to be out. For example spear militia are all 75 men units in my cities but will not merge or retrain to a higher level. Yet if I want to create a new unit they are 112 men units. Has someone altered the unit setting part way through?

:charge:

Ramses II CP
11-24-2007, 16:40
I think unit sizes were normal (75 spearmen) when I played. You could go back to Bob's save or just wait and see if they train out?

:egypt:

YAKOBU
11-24-2007, 16:56
Thanks Ramses II CP ~:wave:

After your comments I went back into M2TW and set my unit sizes to normal before loading the game. That did the trick. Looking at the write-ups it was normal on my last turn too.

I also noticed we seem to be missing your write-up Elite Ferret. Any idea when it will be done?

:charge:

Ferret
11-24-2007, 17:42
sorry I just haven't had time to get it up due to all the exams I have been taking. After I have sorted hrough the 150 screens I should be able to write it mid-December, and I know that I should have just not bothered with a placeholder :(

Zim
11-24-2007, 19:33
Feel free to take the extra few turns. Looks like you have a quite a challenge ahead of you.

That's a huge change in our territories. Ignoramus must have abandoned Palermo and our Eastern Territories to get out of that wasteful war with the Mongols and huge distance penalties. Our holdings in England and France were almost nonexistent, I think.

While the challenge of a far flung empire looked interesting through most of the game, this more compact one definately looks more defendable.




As we are on turn 133 do you want me to play to turn 150? This will potentially leave 4 more players 20 turns each.

Wish me luck.

P.S. It's my 40th today :drama1: and I have a little cold :nurse: so may be tomorrow before I start my reign.

:charge:

Ramses II CP
11-25-2007, 01:18
Heh, it's just not as much fun that way from a story standpoint. ;-)

If you think we're in any danger of not winning the campaign I've no doubt any of us could take it to victory inside 20 turns, we just couldn't do it with much panache or story.

:egypt:

Zim
11-25-2007, 03:23
Heh, it's just not as much fun that way from a story standpoint. ;-)

If you think we're in any danger of not winning the campaign I've no doubt any of us could take it to victory inside 20 turns, we just couldn't do it with much panache or story.

:egypt:

I don't know, the story of how he did it in 13 turns while substantially increasing our net amount of territories might be an interesting story. :beam: When my turn comes I'll try to take them back. :yes:

Zim
11-25-2007, 05:48
Happy Birthday YAKOBU!
:cake: :birthday2:

YAKOBU
11-25-2007, 10:32
Thank you Zim ~:cheers:

Also my plan is to play to turn 150 which is 17 turns.

I've played 2 turns and taken Caen from the English and Cagliari from the Moors as well as successfully defending half a dozen small sieges.

:charge:

YAKOBU
11-26-2007, 00:45
Hi guys ~:wave:

Well I've made it to turn 150 in 1 piece and added 6 regions as well as getting over 70,000 florins in the treasury.

Is anybody in a rush for the save game or do you want to wait for my write-up? If need be I can do a brief summary so the next player can get going?

:charge:

Zim
11-26-2007, 01:32
Well, since we switched turns I'm next. :yes:
I'd like to have a summary and the save if it's ok. I'd like to play tonight if I could. :2thumbsup:

YAKOBU
11-26-2007, 15:09
Hi Zim ~:wave:

Quick summary for now:


We now have 77,540 florins in the treasury from a starting point of 1,183 florins. This was achieved by various means. I converted 4 castles to cities; destroyed redundant buildings for cash; and prioritised economic building projects.

We now have 19 cities and 10 castles. I added Acre and Gaza in the holy lands; Genoa, Bologna and Florence in Italy; as well as Caen and Cagliari. Unfortunately I lost Oslo as it was off the beaten track.


We are allied only with Russia and have England, France, HRE, Venice, Turks, Poland, Papal States and Mongols for enemies.


Other points:

There is a captain-led army south of Hamburg.


Jerusalem is rioting after our king died there. Edmund Canmore and a small army is south of Jerusalem. I only noticed them recently as they were on the tip of the map :wall: .


Staufen is again under siege by Venice.


Acre is again under siege by the Mongols but I have strengthened the garrison after the last siege.


King Malcolm is in Bologna and our capital is Paris.


Hope that is enough for you. The file is in the usual place as PBMScots150.zip.

Enjoy your reign.

:charge:

YAKOBU
11-26-2007, 16:34
Just a quick question Zim.

Is this really H/VH?

I don't usually play at such a high level but in my turns on this PBM I have managed ok (I think :book: ).

Maybe I should up the level in my SP too?

:charge:

Ramses II CP
11-26-2007, 17:27
Any time you're at war with most of the world you've reached the end game. :juggle2:

:egypt:

Zim
11-26-2007, 20:09
Just a quick question Zim.

Is this really H/VH?

I don't usually play at such a high level but in my turns on this PBM I have managed ok (I think :book: ).

Maybe I should up the level in my SP too?

:charge:

As far as I know. I even checked a few times when I started the game.
I like Hard campaign difficulty since it gives the AI a bit of an edge, but not like with VH where a single province nation can afford ten stacks.
VH battle doesn't offer any bonuses to the AI troops(except concerning ability to light rams on fire, I think), it just makes it about as smart a commander as possible (which isn't much :clown: ).

I like H/VH for SP, and would reccommend it.

Zim
11-27-2007, 23:38
Just a quick report. I am venturing on halfwa through my turn. Things were a bit rough at first(lots of long defenisve siege battles, even ran out the clock one time) but seem to be stablizing. I hope to leave a reasonably intact Empire to the next guy.

Zim
11-28-2007, 20:50
Alright, I cut my reign short a bit at 16, giving exactly 60 more turns (and three more players! :2thumbsup: ).

We're up to 35 regions. I captured Frankfurt, Magdeburg, Stettin, Nuremburg, and Innsbruck. I also have a power army waiting outside Milan. I had waited out a threat of excommunication by the pope, planning on using cannons to assault the settlement the turn the threat ended, but accidently hit end turn after sieging it. :shame:

Missions: We have one against attacking France, one for killing France's king (there's a fleet with a very aged but ten skill assassin and two princesses in the Adriatic).

Let's see, what else. Large armies through the cities/castles of our eastern border. 20,000 or so florins, I think, and a large army outside Caen. We've gotten the World is Round event and Caen is building Naval Drydocks in case the next guy wants to invade the Americas.

Same enemies, minus the HRE. No new friends.

My wife has the thumb drive, and my gaming computer has no internet access worthy of the name, so I'll have to wait for her to come home before putting the save up(sometime tonight, most likely).

10 more regions to go! :2thumbsup:

Edit: Save has been uploadedas "PBMScots166". Econ21 can not play his reign, so Ramses will be taking the save.

YAKOBU
11-29-2007, 23:42
Good going Zim. ~:thumb:

I am away in Wales for the weekend so will have to finish my write-up when I get back.

Apologies for the delay.

:charge:

Ramses II CP
11-30-2007, 00:12
I have the save and I got a little bit done today, I expect to have more time this weekend. I've opened a front against the Danes and declared a crusade against Damascus, but otherwise things proceed as expected.

:egypt:

Ramses II CP
12-04-2007, 13:55
I've finished on turn 172. I auto-calc'd a fair number of battles just on the grounds that there were so many. I think I'm going to have to take the perspective of a distant future historian in my write-up, else the cast of characters would be very large as well.

I'll be working through the write-up for awhile.

:egypt:

Ramses II CP
12-14-2007, 06:52
I've finished my write-up. I'm still not very happy with it, but it wasn't getting any better so it was time to wrap it up. I wanted something more conclusive, but :shrug: it'll do.

Sorry about the images. I enjoy writing, but fiddling with images just irritates me; I'm too much of a perfectionist and too unskilled with the necessary tools.

Fun PBM! The final save is included at the end of the report.

:egypt:

Zim
12-14-2007, 07:08
It was fun, and I really need to get to work on my writeup! :dizzy2:

I've been so busy with all of these mp games. :clown:

Zim
12-15-2007, 08:55
Good work, Ramses! :2thumbsup:

I finally got to read the writeup today, and it looks great. If anyone wants to start another of these, I'd be happy to join, but I think I might be too busy with mp stuff to host one.