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After fighting a battle with a very good defencive postition, I was wondering what other people's best defencive was.
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7293/gooddefenceyi3.jpg
https://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6843/shootingfromelevatedposul8.jpg
https://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4480/victoryne0.jpg
Rhyfelwyr
08-25-2007, 12:48
Nice result there!
My best defensive position ever was when I was fighting against the Timurids at a bridge north of Kiev. I was defending, and there were steep slopes to either side of the bridge, and one even had a cliff. So I parked my crossbows there, and my spearmen used their shiltrons at the bridge exit to fend off four full Timurid stacks. Sorry no screenshots though. I wish you could save battle replays from campaigns, no idea why CA didn't allow that.
Nice result there!
My best defensive position ever was when I was fighting against the Timurids at a bridge north of Kiev. I was defending, and there were steep slopes to either side of the bridge, and one even had a cliff. So I parked my crossbows there, and my spearmen used their shiltrons at the bridge exit to fend off four full Timurid stacks. Sorry no screenshots though. I wish you could save battle replays from campaigns, no idea why CA didn't allow that.
Actually you can, you have to open the console and enter "save_battle_replay <name>" where <name> has to be replaced with the name of the replay.
If you use a mod folder you have to use "../<mod>/<name>" instead
Nice position there. My best one so far was a huge mountain (no screens either) where playing Hungary I could put all my horse archers, pavise crossbow militia and bulgarian brigands up. I totally annihilated an army containing 1200 units with losses of 2 (normal unit sizes mind) who were due to friendly fire.
Benandorf
08-26-2007, 23:10
Just this morning I came across my best defensive position ever. It was a fairly steep hill with some rocks near the bottom to funnel the enemy. They milled around trying to get through, and when they eventually tried to charge my archers had done so much damage that they routed when they saw my numbers.
In the end, I had 8 deaths. I had over 790 kills. It was amazing.
phonicsmonkey
08-27-2007, 04:00
sorry to go a bit off topic here, but on the subject of campaign battle replays, when do you open the console? after the battle when you're back on the campaign map? or at the battle result screen somehow?
and how do you know the <name> of the battle?
sorry to go a bit off topic here, but on the subject of campaign battle replays, when do you open the console? after the battle when you're back on the campaign map? or at the battle result screen somehow?
and how do you know the <name> of the battle?
The <name> refers to the new file where replay will be stored
Rhyfelwyr
08-27-2007, 08:54
Actually you can, you have to open the console and enter "save_battle_replay <name>" where <name> has to be replaced with the name of the replay.
If you use a mod folder you have to use "../<mod>/<name>" instead
Cheers Alpaca, I'll use that in future.
DVX BELLORVM
08-27-2007, 12:18
Actually you can, you have to open the console and enter "save_battle_replay <name>" where <name> has to be replaced with the name of the replay.
If you use a mod folder you have to use "../<mod>/<name>" instead
Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. Every time I try to load a replay saved this way, the game crashes with the "unspecified error".
:help:
P.S. Sorry for OT
DensterNY
08-27-2007, 14:42
Per Ole, great defense. I don't think I've ever had such a lopsided victory but of course that's the point of defense; finding good position and exploiting it.
I think the best defense I had was with my Sicilian militia class infantry and peasant archers against the invading French who had knights; on horse and dismounted as well.
Looking at the battlefield before me I thought of 300/Thermopylae and I placed my troops inside of some farming structures forcing the French to attack one point. Sure enough the French charged their elite knights into my trap getting hammered on three sides by spears which quickly routed their cavalry. Again and again they tried to smash through and though they did a lot of damage in the end they routed... Knights chased off the field by peasants and militia.
I know when we think of position we usually think of hills and elevation but don't ignore those buildings in the field either.
if a building's got some sort of one entrance into a courtyard, can you enter into the courtyard and defend the one entrance?
_Tristan_
08-27-2007, 15:06
I have repeatedly tried to enter some sort of manor or monastery on the battle map but without success...
Farms or mills are different in that matter as stated by DensterNY because if you have lots of infantry and are facing cavalry, the horsemen won't be able to get a formed charge and will then be cut to pieces by foot soldiers
Empirate
08-27-2007, 15:33
It seems that in TW:Empires we'll be allowed to have our soldiers enter all buildings on the battlefield to get a fortified position. I'm very much looking forward to that!
After fighting a battle with a very good defencive postition, I was wondering what other people's best defencive was.
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7293/gooddefenceyi3.jpg
https://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6843/shootingfromelevatedposul8.jpg
https://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4480/victoryne0.jpg
Truly, this is beautiful what great fortune to get that kind of deployment
ReiseReise
08-27-2007, 18:06
This was a good one I like to call the Trail of Tears because the enemy had to march up a VERY narrow winding path to get to me, and were under constant XB shots. IIRC my force was blocking the HRE in the pass from Vienna to Venice. Emporer Henry the Chivalrous was KIA. I didn't chase all the routers because i was trying to maintain my generals Chivalry. Most of the kills were made by my 3 Pavise XB Militia. The 4 units down below are XB + general, they went down to prevent a regroup. Spears moved back a bit so I could get a good shot of the carnage where they were fighting. You can see in the top left of results screen that a LOT of enemy knights were killed by xbows as soon as they entered the narrow pass.
https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8294/defaftermathcp7.jpg
https://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1319/defresultdu4.jpg
The next one was as Milan, 2 Hosp. Knights vs 3 Armoured Sergeants, the lines show the movement of the forces, I was able to march my knights even farther up the mountain from the deployment zone, and they then charged downhill into the exhausted spearmen who had no time to brace themselves.
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9484/milan2uy2.jpg
DensterNY
08-27-2007, 18:43
This was a good one I like to call the Trail of Tears because the enemy had to march up a VERY narrow winding path to get to me, and were under constant XB shots. IIRC my force was blocking the HRE in the pass from Vienna to Venice. Emporer Henry the Chivalrous was KIA. I didn't chase all the routers because i was trying to maintain my generals Chivalry. Most of the kills were made by my 3 Pavise XB Militia. The 4 units down below are XB + general, they went down to prevent a regroup. Spears moved back a bit so I could get a good shot of the carnage where they were fighting. You can see in the top left of results screen that a LOT of enemy knights were killed by xbows as soon as they entered the narrow pass.
https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8294/defaftermathcp7.jpg
https://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1319/defresultdu4.jpg
The next one was as Milan, 2 Hosp. Knights vs 3 Armoured Sergeants, the lines show the movement of the forces, I was able to march my knights even farther up the mountain from the deployment zone, and they then charged downhill into the exhausted spearmen who had no time to brace themselves.
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9484/milan2uy2.jpg
Trail of tears ? How about Carpet of Carnage? Hehe
As for courtyards, unfortunately you can't really use them except as obstructions where units cannot pass. Sometimes you have to mouse over terrain during formations to see whether or not they're passable or where their true borders lie.
DVX BELLORVM
08-28-2007, 21:59
This may not be the best defensive position ever, but it was good enough to utterly crash a fine mongol full stack, with minimal casualties on my side. The death toll would've been even higher if I haven't failed to notice they are fleeing from the battlefield. Guess I was too busy taking screenshots :laugh4:
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7003/battle1xp6.jpg
https://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8343/battle2tc7.jpg
https://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4056/battle3pu5.jpg
Very good guys, keep fighting them awesome battles and get some more screens ^^
Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. Every time I try to load a replay saved this way, the game crashes with the "unspecified error".
:help:
P.S. Sorry for OT
Well it sometimes crashes, sometimes works. It's the same with other replays, really.
I can say I was able to replay a few campaign battles successfully.
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