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Spoofa
08-28-2007, 02:40
I was doing some homework today and saw on wikipedia that arche in greek means rule, so what does Seleukid mean? what does the name in whole mean, Arche Seleukid?

Teleklos Archelaou
08-28-2007, 02:50
Seleukid Empire.

KuKulzA
08-28-2007, 02:55
i think one of the generals who tried to succeed Alexandros was Seleuke (sp?) and so it is the Seleucid (dynasty) empire... Arche Seleukeia right?

Xehh II
08-28-2007, 02:59
I'm sorry but I really have to laugh at that.(The question)

KuKulzA
08-28-2007, 03:02
I'm sorry but I really have to laugh at that.(The question)
that's ok, I went and did my research better

Seleucus?

EDIT: oh (the question) my bad

Spoofa
08-28-2007, 03:09
well sorry to ask such a stupid question but not everybody knows the greek language, I was just curious about the name.

KuKulzA
08-28-2007, 03:18
it's cool man... the way I first figured it out was from Starcraft

see I knew Seleucus was some general... and I heard some Greek dude being addressed as an Archon is some book
so I figured he's probably a ruler so Archon... Arche.... so Arche is ruler/tyrant and Seleukus is some general... then i did some research :yes:

pseudocaesar
08-28-2007, 03:26
Archon (Gr. άρχων, pl. άρχοντες) is a Greek word that means "ruler" or the like, though it is frequently encountered as the title of some specific public office. In form the word is simply the masculine present participle of the verb stem αρχ- (meaning "to rule"), derived from the same root that appears in words such as monarch and hierarchy.

KuKulzA
08-28-2007, 03:35
thanks, I guess it was a good connection on my part

and thank you Starcraft (Blizzard)!! :laugh4:

Intrepid Adventurer
08-28-2007, 21:45
I'm way off topic here, but I suppose it's the best place to ask: what was the Greek word for the leader of a household, or master of the house? I read it some time ago, and I can't recall it. Something starting with k-...

Tellos Athenaios
08-28-2007, 22:33
Well, you always have got the word "kurios" "lord'; typical koine Greek word for "Lord". The word which was used to describe "God" in the bible.

You also have got the more ancient, (dating back to the Mycean period), word of "Anax". That is more true to the meaning of "Domius", "heer des huizes" in Dutch, "lord of the house".

Then you've got the "Basileus" from Achaian days; typically the lord of a small comunity centered around a stronghold or "astu". Later the meaning apparently evolved too "Chief"; as in "chief magistrate" ("archos basileus"); or "king (of kings)".

Note that he very strongly is a mortal ruler, bound (to mortal) rules, as opposed to:

The "despotes", from which stems the modern Dutch "despoot", litteraly meaning "(absolute) ruler"; but also reffering to "devine ruler" i.e. "God(s)".

Intrepid Adventurer
08-29-2007, 07:42
I don't recall it to be either of those, but I did mean 'heer des huizes' exactly. You Dutch? Haha...

Thank you very much, either way!

Tellos Athenaios
08-29-2007, 12:06
Well there are two other words, I can think of - beginning with a kappa:
"kubernetes", leader as in he who steers the ship.
"krator", meaning "in charge"; which is more of a suffix added to other words. Such as autokrator; upsokrator; horokrator etc...

abou
08-30-2007, 03:07
Shouldn't you use a y to represent upsilon unless it is in a diphthong?

So kybernetes.