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Scotsmanforlife
08-31-2007, 20:43
I'm playing as the Irish and just now managed to get one of my princesses to marry william wallace into my family. Made me laugh at any rate. :devilish:
Rhyfelwyr
08-31-2007, 23:01
You're not a true Scotsman!~:pissed:
Monsieur Alphonse
08-31-2007, 23:15
The dirty TRAITOR :whip:
Actually :jawdrop: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Antagonist
08-31-2007, 23:20
Well, Robert Bruce did marry an Irish(sort of) noblewoman, so it's not totally unheard of. I wish he'd been the Scottish "hero" character instead WW, but nevermind, I'd just be re-hashing the "Mel Gibson sucks" stuff again, everyone knows it already. What does everyone think of Scotland in Kingdoms then?
Antagonist
anyone know who the Irish hero is?
Antagonist
08-31-2007, 23:28
A certain Brian O'Connor, who I'm fairly confident didn't exist (well, no-one by that name was King of (Gaelic) Ireland in 1271 or whenever it starts) And is wife is named Jill. Maybe they're confusing him with Brian Ua Neill, who died a few years before IIRC.
The Irish unit roster is good though, looks more "historical" than I anticipated. Too much heavy armour perhaps, and they shouldn't have lancers. And a cav archer wouldn've been nice. But all-in-all it could've been a lot worse, I feel.
Antagonist
A certain Brian O'Connor, who I'm fairly confident didn't exist (well, no-one by that name was King of (Gaelic) Ireland in 1271 or whenever it starts) And is wife is named Jill. Maybe they're confusing him with Brian Ua Neill, who died a few years before IIRC.
The Irish unit roster is good though, looks more "historical" than I anticipated. Too much heavy armour perhaps, and they shouldn't have lancers. And a cav archer wouldn've been nice. But all-in-all it could've been a lot worse, I feel.
Antagonist
I don't think he is the emergent champion. It should be Brian O'Neill as he is the one who united the kingdoms. However, all his children names in the britannia campaign end in O'Neill anyway. I love the way there is a maccarthy in cork and an o'brien in tipperary(should be ennis though). There is too much heavy cavalry in the Irish roster, siege equipment would be out for the most part too.
Antagonist
08-31-2007, 23:36
I don't think the champion is necessarily "emergent" though. I think the list of heroes is:
England: Edward I (starting as a Prince, leaves on the Crusade and can return)
Scotland: Wallace (emerging)
Wales: Llywelyn ap Gruffydd (starting)
Ireland: Brian O'Connor (starting)
Norway: Haakon IV (starting, or emerges quickly)
Barons: Simon de Montfort (faction itself is emergent)
You can tell the hero character because they have a different apperance, both on the strat map and in battle.
Antagonist
I don't think the champion is necessarily "emergent" though. I think the list of heroes is:
England: Edward I (starting as a Prince, leaves on the Crusade and can return)
Scotland: Wallace (emerging)
Wales: Llywelyn ap Gruffydd (starting)
Ireland: Brian O'Connor (starting)
Norway: Haakon IV (starting, or emerges quickly)
You can tell the hero character because they have a different apperance, both on the strat map and in battle.
Antagonist
Damn well he's dead then. And me expecting a video and a large army to boot. What powers does Brian O Neill have?
Antagonist
08-31-2007, 23:40
I think hero powers are limited to the Crusades campaign actually, but I could be wrong.
Antagonist
Ah well. Things are going well anyway, even if the music is a bit kitsch.
What about Robert the Bruce? Is it one hero per country? Or is the idea that kings are just kings and heroes are something else?
Brian Ó Néill wasn't much of a hero in fairness, perhaps more of the diplomat that he could convert Aedh Ó Concobhair and Tadhg Cael Uisce to his cause (incidentally Tadhg's father, Conchobhar Ó Briain is in the game as Conor O'Brien, a nice touch I think). Brian, after arranging his superiority and recognition of his High Kingship, died a mere two years latter in the battle of Down, not making much of a historical impression. Tadhg and Aedh, who were both tánaiste at this stage, both made a greater historical impact.
I belive hero characters might give some passive bonuses on battlefield/campaing map... But it´s not certain... we need some sort of verification to this.
Only 5 characters in the Crusades camapign get hero abilities. Historical figures appear in the other campaigns but have no special abilities.
Can someone describe those 5 heroes abilities in crusaders campaign?
The Byzantine Empire
Hero: Manual Comemnus
Power: Several enemy units succumb to infighting and refuse to move for a limited time. There is no range limit to the effect, but it can only be used once per battle.
The Turks
Hero: Nur ad-Din
Power: Increases the attack speed and morale of troops for a limited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Egypt
Hero: Saladin
Power: Set all units that have not broken to maximum morale for a limited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Kingdom of Jerusalem
Hero: Richard the Lionheart
Power: Immediately rallied all troops who are fleeing and returns their morale to normal. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Principality of Antioch
Hero: Phillip II
Power: Increases attack power and stamina of his troops for almited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Hope that answers your question!
Mr Frost
09-02-2007, 11:06
The Byzantine Empire
Hero: Manual Comemnus
Power: Several enemy units succumb to infighting and refuse to move for a limited time. There is no range limit to the effect, but it can only be used once per battle.
The Turks
Hero: Nur ad-Din
Power: Increases the attack speed and morale of troops for a limited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Egypt
Hero: Saladin
Power: Set all units that have not broken to maximum morale for a limited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Kingdom of Jerusalem
Hero: Richard the Lionheart
Power: Immediately rallied all troops who are fleeing and returns their morale to normal. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Principality of Antioch
Hero: Phillip II
Power: Increases attack power and stamina of his troops for almited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but a period of time must pass between each use.
Hope that answers your question!
Kingdoms' five different cheese flavours .
>Resists urge to rant .... :wall:
Basically turkey will use nur adin all ha army, only fool will attack manuel with flamethrowers in army and lionheart is the weakest of them all because he has high command and units will route only when they sustain 90% casualties.
IrishArmenian
09-02-2007, 18:31
Brian Ó Néill wasn't much of a hero in fairness, perhaps more of the diplomat that he could convert Aedh Ó Concobhair and Tadhg Cael Uisce to his cause (incidentally Tadhg's father, Conchobhar Ó Briain is in the game as Conor O'Brien, a nice touch I think). Brian, after arranging his superiority and recognition of his High Kingship, died a mere two years latter in the battle of Down, not making much of a historical impression. Tadhg and Aedh, who were both tánaiste at this stage, both made a greater historical impact.
Odd, a certain Aed O'Connor appeared in my Irish campaign. I married him to my princess!
Odd, a certain Aed O'Connor appeared in my Irish campaign. I married him to my princess!
I'll have to keep a closer eye out for him then. What difficulty was it at? Was he a general before he married your princess?
Fookison
09-03-2007, 03:03
Well, Robert Bruce did marry an Irish(sort of) noblewoman, so it's not totally unheard of. I wish he'd been the Scottish "hero" character instead WW, but nevermind, I'd just be re-hashing the "Mel Gibson sucks" stuff again, everyone knows it already. What does everyone think of Scotland in Kingdoms then?
Antagonist
Just started a Scottish campaign, too early to tell. But I have had some epics in the grand campaigns....
my william wallace died last night in a heroic bridge defense just outside inverness against the traitorous norwegians.
Well they may have taken his life...... :-)
Scotsmanforlife
09-04-2007, 03:34
Yeah, the scots ended up killing Wallace while he was defending one of my castles. Seems the scots didn't take to kindly to him switching sides.
Sir Clive Sinclair
09-04-2007, 15:30
anyone know who the Irish hero is?
Hopefully Theobald Wolfsbane
Sir Clive Sinclair
09-04-2007, 15:40
Hopefully Theobald Wolfsbane
Of course I meant to say Theobald Wolfe Tone, dunno who this wolfsbane geezer is
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