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phoenix[illusion]
09-11-2007, 16:55
This mod is historical,and we use historical maps. we have one, but if you have more historical maps, post them here!


https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5839/eurse1340bld6.gif

Milos98
09-14-2007, 17:04
I would suggest cutting map on right side (volga)...

matko
09-14-2007, 20:43
maybe sap should go to the Samsoun on the Black Sea. we dont need anythiung eastern of that. but we will see.

Milos98
09-15-2007, 10:47
You will need a lot of good mappers to make this map, it is surely the hardest part of making a mod. You should start searching, for mappers... coders are easier to find.

phoenix[illusion]
09-15-2007, 20:29
http://usuarios.lycos.es/superjulio/IMPERIOS%20BALCANICOS/Serbia.jpg

phoenix[illusion]
09-15-2007, 20:39
Tsar Dushan's State

http://www.nis.co.yu/manastiri_i_crkve_grada_nisa/slike/Atlas4.jpg

Tsar
09-15-2007, 21:19
One from me:
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/his/CoreArt/maps/Balkans1362.Serbia.jpg

matko
09-18-2007, 15:14
map on the first post is too big. this is better - this is how our map will look like (probably)
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4639/eurse1340bld62ft0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
mm

King Orko
09-19-2007, 21:25
I think that only the eastern part of Wallachia should be Wallachia belongings as in reality

Ave_Serbia
09-23-2007, 15:34
https://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/chellenum1/ShepherdByzempire1265.jpg

phoenix[illusion]
09-23-2007, 16:22
What do you say for map lie this?

https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7646/untitled1yc6.jpg

Ave_Serbia
09-23-2007, 17:32
All the informations about the Serbian state and it's borders in the midle ages can be found on this adress....


http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Историја_Србије_у_Средњем_веку

Milos98
09-23-2007, 17:44
https://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb232/Milos98/map_ground_types.jpg
Regardez; I think this one is better (we can add venice).

Ave_Serbia
09-23-2007, 17:52
Regardez; I think this one is better (we can add venice).

Don't you think that it's a little too big ?

matko
09-23-2007, 18:23
good but- a part of hungary is missing- and it would be good to have a bit more asia minor

King Orko
09-23-2007, 19:24
https://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/chellenum1/ShepherdByzempire1265.jpg
From which year is the map?

Ave_Serbia
09-23-2007, 19:31
From which year is the map?

1265.

King Orko
09-23-2007, 19:56
1265.
then it is not good for the game.

Sarmatian
09-24-2007, 14:58
good but- a part of hungary is missing- and it would be good to have a bit more asia minor

That's goind to be a problem. If we expand the map to the north and east we are going to end up with a large chunk of the map in the northeast that is unusable.

Maybe it is not such a bad thing to cut of a part of hungary and asia minor since ottomans and hungary are in great position because they're on the edges of the map. Both of them can expand without worrying for their "exposed rear". This could be a nice way of limiting their power, since we can assume that income and manpower form those parts go to defending their northern (Hungary) and eastern (Ottomans) border...

King Orko
09-24-2007, 15:25
please reply this or I think you are dead and only ghosts are answering me:
Wallachia in that time didn't hold Severin(or lesser Wallachia) back than.

matko
09-24-2007, 21:05
please reply this or I think you are dead and only ghosts are answering me:
Wallachia in that time didn't hold Severin(or lesser Wallachia) back than.
ok. we heard you the first time.we just dont have any historically correct maps.
we will have to draw one. you could help with this.

King Orko
09-25-2007, 15:00
ok. we heard you the first time.we just dont have any historically correct maps.
we will have to draw one. you could help with this.
OK
sure

Tsar
09-26-2007, 03:03
In this 2 maps we can see which kingdoms survive Ottomans , so we can include 2nd muslim faction
Eurpe 1300 (http://www.euratlas.net/PHA/history_europe/europe_map_1300.jpg)

Europe 1400 (http://www.euratlas.net/PHA/history_europe/europe_map_1400.jpg)

King Orko
09-26-2007, 07:09
In this 2 maps we can see which kingdoms survive Ottomans , so we can include 2nd muslim faction
Eurpe 1300 (http://www.euratlas.net/PHA/history_europe/europe_map_1300.jpg)

Europe 1400 (http://www.euratlas.net/PHA/history_europe/europe_map_1400.jpg)
Reading in a few historical sources and looking over some maps, I found out that Euratlas' historical maps are not really reliable.

Ave_Serbia
09-26-2007, 12:18
Balkan 1355 godina


https://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/chellenum1/byzantine_empire_13551.jpg


Balkan 1560 godina

https://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/chellenum1/europe1560_shepherd1.jpg

Tsar
10-01-2007, 04:11
See Europe in 1360 AD (http://wiki.shadowedrealm.com/maps/map.php?id=92). Duchies, kingdoms, and principalities are indicated on the map.

Central Europe (1378 AD) (http://wiki.shadowedrealm.com/maps/map.php?id=93)
View the Luxemburg dominions, Hapsburg dominions, Wittelsbach, ecclesiastical estates, and more within Central Europe in 1378.

Source: Sheperd, William R. Historical Atlas. New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1911. 77.

Tsar
10-04-2007, 03:19
Can we use this map for provinces?

http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/f/fallofcon.gif

These cities can be added to the map:

Konya- Sultan Mehmed was managing this city when he was a prince(Şehzade).

Adrianople(Edirne)

Prusa(Bursa)

Nicomedia(Izmit)

IrishArmenian
10-04-2007, 04:03
I'm not too keen on the inclusion of Kilikia as a part of the map. Too east, it ruins the feel of the mod. What the hell are we (Armenians) doing in Slavic politics in this timeframe? We weren't of any relevance until the 19th century, really.

Ave_Serbia
10-04-2007, 13:17
Can we use this map for provinces?


Душане,свака част за мапу!!!. (in egnlish: Dusan,grat map :yes: )

Kavhan Isbul
10-04-2007, 17:27
That is a very nice map, but may I propose a few changes?
Instead of Moesia Inferior, can we just call it Dobrudja?
Instead of the Balkan Mountains, I suggest having a Vidin province, and the rest of the Balkans can be added to Turnovo.
Nicopolis is OK and perhaps deserves to be included, but I strobgly believe we need a Sofia province - the strategic importance of the city, in the middle of the peninsula, where many roads intersect, nesseciates it. The Ottomans almost imemdiately went for it, in order to separate the Serbs and the Bulgarians, and their plan worked.
These are all the changes I would do, but with or without them, this is a really nice map, great job!

Tsar
10-04-2007, 23:48
Thanks Ave and Kavhan:beam:
This map could be good starting point for this area and need some changes (something to be added and something removed)

4th Dimension
10-05-2007, 19:26
I soppouse the map is okey. But there are couple of provinces that are more than a bit off. I'm talking about Priština, Niš, and Skoplje. Skoplje is west of Nis and should be south of it, and Pristina ends up in North MOntenegro all because of nasty placement of Skoplje.

Also, Provinces on Balkans should be renamed.
Exampl: Seadro MTS should be Ohrid (There was an achiepiscopy in Ohrid)

Tsar
10-05-2007, 23:16
Like I said in my previous post:book:

Ronaldinho10
11-23-2007, 13:02
EJ KAKO DA STAVIM SLIKU

Sarmatian
11-23-2007, 16:16
EJ KAKO DA STAVIM SLIKU

First, lose the caps, it is considered rude.

Second, this is an english forum, so use english.

Now, to answer your question. Go to imageshack, choose the image you want to upload and click host it. Then copy the link here and that's it.

jimmy spong
12-07-2007, 19:10
mozemo li na "zapadno blakanski" da prichamo ?

i think you should add machva to serbia they recieved it from hungary and also belgrade . lot of provinces you should put otherwise it wouldnt be usefull

Tsar
12-08-2007, 00:28
mozemo li na "zapadno blakanski" da prichamo ?

i think you should add machva to serbia they recieved it from hungary and also belgrade . lot of provinces you should put otherwise it wouldnt be usefull
It's english forum ,so english only. Map should come out in our second preview, what will be soon:smash: ! We have great historians and all provinces will be historically accurate.:thumbsup:

jimmy spong
12-09-2007, 18:10
oh finnaly , historical accuracy .... great , im good , very good with history so if you need help.....

c u ...

matko
12-09-2007, 18:18
It's english forum ,so english only. Map should come out in our second preview, what will be soon:smash: ! We have great historians and all provinces will be historically accurate.:thumbsup:

true but they received it much later. when our mod starts (in 1345) Belgrade is still part of Hungary and called Nandorfehervar. But if you play as Serbia you can always attack Hungary and capture the city.

jimmy spong
12-09-2007, 18:38
all maps are , less , more , correct , except some places are labeled differently , i think you cant make mistake by choosing any of them as an example .